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A15418 Limbo-mastix: that is, A canuise of Limbus Patrum shewing by euident places of Scripture, inuincible reasons, and pregnant testimonies of some ancient writers, that Christ descended not in soule to Hell, to deliuer the Fathers from thence. Containing also a briefe replie to so much of a pamphlet lately published, intituled, An answere to certaine obiections against the descension &c. as lookes that way, and is personally directed against some writers of our Church. Willet, Andrew, 1562-1621. 1604 (1604) STC 25692; ESTC S120030 49,797 70

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which_o be_v against_o we_o and_o fasten_v they_o to_o the_o cross_n etc._n etc._n and_o have_v spoil_v principality_n and_o power_n have_v make_v a_o show_n of_o they_o open_o triumph_v over_o they_o in_o the_o same_o so_o read_v and_o expound_v origen_n this_o place_n of_o christ_n triumph_n upon_o the_o cross_n upon_o these_o word_n numb_a 24._o 9_o he_o couch_v as_o a_o young_a lion_n he_o lay_v down_o like_o a_o lion_n when_o hang_v numer_n upon_o the_o cross_n he_o put_v down_o principality_n and_o power_n and_o triumph_v over_o they_o in_o the_o tree_n of_o his_o cross_n augustine_n also_o show_v that_o our_o deliverance_n be_v full_o wrought_v upon_o the_o cross_n and_o the_o devil_n vanquish_v serm_n 174._o trophaeo_fw-la svo_fw-la diabolus_fw-la victus_fw-la est_fw-la seducendo_fw-la primum_fw-la hominem_fw-la occidit_fw-la occidendo_fw-la novissimum_fw-la primum_fw-la de_fw-la laqueis_fw-la perdidit_fw-la exultavit_fw-la diabolus_fw-la quando_fw-la mortuus_fw-la est_fw-la 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bellarmine_n be_v drive_v here_o to_o this_o shift_n to_o grant_v that_o although_o the_o presence_n of_o christ_n 15._o soul_n be_v not_o necessary_a in_o hell_n yet_o it_o be_v of_o congruity_n it_o shall_v be_v there_o present_a if_o the_o presence_n of_o christ_n soul_n in_o hell_n be_v not_o of_o necessity_n how_o have_v they_o all_o this_o while_n urge_v it_o as_o a_o article_n of_o the_o faith_n for_o every_o article_n of_o the_o faith_n be_v to_o be_v hold_v as_o necessary_a argum._n 5._o as_o the_o saint_n die_v commend_v their_o spirit_n unto_o god_n so_o do_v christ_n commend_v his_o spirit_n luk._n 23._o 46._o use_v the_o prophet_n david_n word_n psal._n 31._o 4._o he_o keep_v also_o his_o sense_n but_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o faithful_a commend_v into_o god_n hand_n do_v present_o go_v to_o heaven_n as_o stephen_n say_v lord_n jesus_n receive_v my_o spirit_n act._n 7._o 59_o can_v this_o be_v call_v a_o commend_v of_o the_o spirit_n into_o the_o hand_n of_o god_n to_o go_v 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mortem_fw-la cum_fw-la beatitudinem_fw-la spondet_fw-la societas_fw-la deitatis_fw-la non_fw-la initium_fw-la maeroris_fw-la mors_fw-la ista_fw-la sed_fw-la finis_fw-la cont._n felician_n c._n 15._o heavy_a unto_o death_n because_o of_o the_o affection_n and_o infirmity_n of_o the_o flesh_n not_o after_o death_n when_o blessedness_n be_v promise_v by_o the_o society_n of_o the_o godhead_n this_o death_n be_v not_o the_o beginning_n of_o sorrow_n and_o travail_n but_o the_o end_n argum._n 6._o christ_n soul_n go_v immediate_o unto_o heaven_n after_o the_o departure_n from_o his_o body_n ergo_fw-la it_o do_v not_o descend_v to_o hell_n the_o first_o part_n be_v prove_v by_o the_o word_n of_o our_o saviour_n luk._n 23._o 43._o utter_v to_o the_o convict_v thief_n this_o day_n shall_v thou_o be_v with_o i_o in_o paradise_n which_o word_n paradise_n must_v be_v understand_v of_o the_o presence_n of_o christ_n in_o heaven_n not_o in_o respect_n of_o his_o godhead_n only_o but_o of_o his_o 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say_v to_o the_o thief_n answ._n p._n 20._o ans._n 1._o if_o this_o venturous_a expositor_n have_v consider_v what_o go_v before_o and_o after_o these_o word_n with_o i_o where_o i_o be_o he_o will_v not_o have_v vent_v forth_o such_o a_o uncertain_a gloss_n for_o first_o our_o saviour_n say_v i_o will_v that_o they_o which_o thou_o have_v give_v i_o be_v with_o i_o be_v they_o give_v unto_o he_o as_o god_n i_o think_v not_o for_o who_o can_v give_v unto_o god_n then_o they_o be_v give_v unto_o he_o as_o the_o messiah_n he_o therefore_o pray_v they_o may_v be_v with_o he_o as_o the_o messiah_n 2._o it_o follow_v immediate_o that_o they_o may_v behold_v my_o glory_n which_o thou_o have_v give_v i_o do_v he_o not_o speak_v here_o also_o of_o that_o glory_n which_o be_v give_v he_o as_o the_o messiah_n for_o the_o which_o he_o pray_v vers_fw-la 5._o and_o now_o glorify_v i_o &_o c_o i_o trust_v as_o he_o be_v god_n he_o pray_v not_o for_o glory_n to_o be_v give_v he_o for_o he_o that_o 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