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A56504 Defectio geniturarum being an essay toward the reviving and proving the true old principles of astrology hitherto neglected or at leastwise not observed or understood : wherein many things relating to this science are handled and discoursed ... / by John Partridge. Partridge, John, 1644-1715. 1697 (1697) Wing P617; ESTC R26179 278,401 372

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of a thing which here is wanting But to the Text again In his 5th Chapter he discourseth wholly about the places of the Planets and whether we ought to consider the Planet in a right Line from the Centre of the Earth to the Planet and Primum mobile or by a right Line drawn from the Eye on the Superficies of the Earth through the Body of the Planet to the Primum mobile but never disputeth one word of beholding it from the Centre or Superficies of the Sun which if it were worthy to be taken notice of 't is strange Morinus should overlook and neglect it I might quote you many more places in this Author in order to my design but I shall content my self with these and sum up all in that Aphorism of his in the third Chapter Concursus duorum Radiorum Coelestium ad Terram sive Centrum Mundi qui in primi mobilis Zodiaco Terminati arcum abscindunt qui Circuli maximi in duodecim aequales partes divisi partem aut partes Continet similemque angulum ad Terram subtendit Lastly Didacus Prittus tells us page 63. Radii sunt proportionales partes alicujus Circuli secundum Communem sententiam Cujus Centrum sit in Centro Terrae And though he differs from the Common Opinion That the Mystery of the Ray doth not consist in the Angle at the Earth yet he allows every Aspect to make an Angle at the Earth and according as they think too some more acute and some more obtuse Now to tell you my Opinion of his Text though he doth deny the Angle to give the Aspect its force and mystick Power yet he allows the Earth to be the Point from whence this Aspect is to be seen in its Form and Measure which being observed from any place but the Earth is of no force nor validity at all to produce any Effect either in the Microcosm or Macrocosm because it is not such an Aspect as it is reported to be the Star or Stars being not to be seen in those Points and Parts of Heaven if observed from the Sun or any other Body in Nature By what hath been said it appears That all the Authors that have written of this Subject do allow no other Point but the Earth to see these Aspects from that are believed to have any effect or power on Sublunary things and that all other Rays from other points observed want not only a name but a power also to be known by nor did any man ever appear till here of late to perswade Mankind that such things were possible to be believed And now to sum up these Learned Authors I will add one more of greater Antiquity than any of them to prove what I endeavour and that is the Great Ptolomey in the 20th Chapter of his first Book of his Quadripartite but I know my Adversary will not believe him by the Scurrilous Names he calls him Having thus far discoursed the matter I am led by their Doctrine and Notions to consider it in Directions also which is practised and asserted for truth in an Almanack for 1692. In that Nativity we find Mars from the Earth in 25 degrees of Libra but from the Sun in 17 degrees Now if neither of these will hit my Accident by Direction I will step to Saturn or Jupiter and perhaps I may see him there in 13 or 14 degrees so that some of these Points so differently beheld must undoubtedly hit the mark 't is no matter whether it be agreeable or not with the Accident if there is but a Nominal Direction to be hit in our teeth when we ask the Cause of such or such an Accident To direct the Earth to the Body of Mars is such a paradox that will puzzle all the Heliocentrick-men in this Nation to demonstrate it to any man of Reason and to inform their Intellects how or by what means these two Bodies must meet or where we must stand to behold it for when the Sun and Moon are directed to the Body of Mars or when the Midheaven or Ascendent are directed to the Body of Mars we can stand at our own Doors and see them meet and pass by one another but where we must go to observe this uncouth Phoenomena I want a Chronocentrick Topographer to give me some Heliocentrick Directions how to find my way and when that is done I must wait for a Heliocentrick Pass and a Post-Boy before I can proceed on my Journey for I guess I must travel into the Sun the only fit place for a Heliocentrick Philosopher to dwell in but when we come thither all the plague will be we shall be frustrated of the things we expect for there is no such thing as Diurnal nor Nocturnal Arks and by that Consequence no Directions there is no Horoscope nor no Midheaven and by that means no Eighth House which will be a plaguy disappointment to our Astrologers for the People there must either live for ever or else dye by something that our Astrologers will be at a plunge to find out and bring into use instead of the Eighth House But to the point again Before any thing else be done by these Innovators let them tell us What the Heliocentrick Nocturnal Ark of the Earth is in all or any parts of the Zodiack because the Diurnal and Nocturnal Arks are the ground of all Directions both Direct and Converse If they say there is no such thing why I agree with them and tell them there is no Direction there by that rule nor can the Earth be directed to any thing because that is the Basis we stand upon to behold the Starry Motions and to receive their Influence and you may as well make any one man at the same time Patient and Agent Plantiff and Defendent as to direct the Earth to the Body or Beams of any Star for the Earth cannot be said to have either Diurnal or Nocturnal Arks. And I lay this down as an Aphorism That all Bodies not capable of those Arks are not quallified with any Motion serviceable in Directions And here perhaps I have opened a Window to my Adversary's Understanding by which he was never enlightned before By this means of turning the Tables and changing the Earth for the Sun I judge they apprehend all other things fall in naturally and easy If so pray let them tell us how to set a Heliocentrick Figure of Heaven and how we shall find out the Heliocentrick Midheaven and Ascendent for if we must have Heliocentrick Directions these ought to be principally considered or else we shall be losers by the bargain For to take in the Earth to help out at a dead lift and lose the two serviceable Angles will half undo the Astrologers For I will maintain That the Ascendent to ill Rays kills more than all the rest of the Hylegiack Points in the common way And I think it is but reasonable since they will thus put it upon us to direct the Earth
whatsoever other Points are taken and Lines drawn to that purpose between those Points are only imaginary and without any Ground and Foundation in the Order of Nature The proportional Distances of the Stars to the Angles ought to be taken from that Point and Part of the House from which they began their Distance hence it is a very strange sort of Philosophy to me to see some when they know the Stars do begin their Distance from one Point to take the Quantity of their Distance and its due Dimension from another Point no ways concerned which was only an Invention back'd with a general Consent to deceive themselves and others 5. The first and primary Division of the Heavens according to Ptolomy is into four Parts or Quarters two above and two under the Earth and these are again divided into two Denominations of Oriental and Occidental as you may see Lib. 1. Cap. 10. Lib. 4. Cap. 5. These four Parts of Heaven are constituted defined and demonstrated by those two great Circles the Meridian and Horizon as you may likewise see in the fore-quoted quadripartite Lib. 3. Cap. 11. and in other Places in which Place and Places you must observe that the Word Horoscope is not to be understood of the Exorient Part of the Ecliptick only but that Line which the Stars pass when they first appear to our Sight which Line is called Finitor Orientalis This primary Division of the Heavens is by the Help of the two beforementioned Circles wholly and entirely divided into twelve Houses and this Division doth not only comprehend the Zodiack and ten degrees of each Side of it but the whole Hemisphere above and also under the Earth Hence it is that we say A Star that hath great Latitude is in the Ascendent Twelfth House c. though the Sign that Star is in is not near the Cusp of that House nor is the Star near the Zodiack by many degrees but by its Rising with large North or South Latitude it is said to be in that House when it is in that Space made in this Division by the Horary Circles of Position Hence it is likewise that the Horary Circles of Position are rationally and demonstrably different from the Common Circles of Position and though they are both imaginary yet the former are far more naturally true and real than the latter And also that they depend on certain distances between the Angles which sheweth that not only the four Quarters which is the Division of the Zodiacal Circle but the Division of the four Quarters also doth wholly depend on the two great Circles the Meridian and Horizon Hence it appears also that the primary Division of the Heavens into four Quarters according to the Doctrine of Ptolomy sheweth that the Horary Circles of Position considered with the Tempora Horaria do plainly demonstrate that the Angles are in Square and Opposition one to another and that all the rest of the Houses as well one to another as to the Angles bear an equal and regular Distance and this by a certain and determinate Motion proper only to that Circle and that the Houses are parallel each to other and all of them to the two great Circles beforementioned the supposed Lines being drawn from one Intersection to the other and each of them extended are equal to the great Circles It is also plain that the Diurnal or Horary Circle of Time by which the Houses are determined and constituted is wholly different both in its Nature and Use from the Zodiacal Circle and by a Mistake in the use of both it hath given occasion of stumbling to some and a real Ground for Errors among others some of which at this Day are greedily embraced for undeniable Truths Hence it appears likewise that the Houses are certain Spaces in the Heavens consisting of Parts thereof and are endued both with Longitude and Latitude and they are proportional Distances equally drawn according to the Principles of Motion between one Angle and another and though there are divers Pretences to a Division of this nature yet there can be but one true These things being allowed that way of dividing the Zodiack into twelve equal parts and the Lines thence produced drawn through the Poles of the Ecliptick is wholly rejected as false because it doth not divide Motion but Air And also it is the most uncertain Division and irregular of all that have been invented and the most subject to Mutation It doth also wholly reject that Division of the Ecliptick parallel to the Equator and the Lines drawn through the Poles of the World and that for the Reasons before alledged It doth also wholly reject and disown the Division of the Vertical Circle which passeth by and cutteth the Equator in the Points Orient and Occident And though that Division of the Heavens is moderately proportional and for the most pa●t constant and certain yet it is not a natural Division and that for these Reasons First it doth not divide the Motion and Influx of the Stars but the parts of the Air only Secondly it doth not determine the proportional Distances of the Houses from the à quo ad quem of the Stars Motion but from the Points of their Parallels which indeed are neither natural nor real and to say the Truth nothing at all but Imagination by which means they first lay an imaginary Foundation and then build an imaginary Structure thereon Thirdly Let there be two Stars or more in Conjunction exactly in the Point Rising and at some distance from the Equator then their opposite Point must be in their exact degree of Setting If so then why should their intermediate proportional Distances between the Angles be made by those Parallels in which they do not either Rise or Set and is it not a very idle thing to take the Distances of Motion from other Parts and Points than those of their Inception and Desition which are really the true à quo ad quem of their rapt Motion in our Sight and Hemisphere Therefore the Distances of Motion ought to be taken from those Points from whence the Stars begin to move and to increase their Distances by Motion This doth also reject that Division of Alcabitius as false and erroneous because he grosly errs in taking the Semidiurnal Ark of the Point Rising and makes that serve for the three Oriental Houses above the Earth by dividing it into three exact parts For it is very well known that the Semidiurnal Ark of the beginning of Cancer is far greater than the End of Aries and therefore when Cancer Ascends by that Division the three Houses above the Horoscope will have Arks above their Proportion and Right and the three Houses below the Ascendent will have Arks less than their due and so of the other six Houses by the same Rule Which you will find to be wholly irregular and false It also rejects that of Regiomontanus called the Rational which divides the Equator
demonstrate the Direction of the First House to the Second the directing the Mid-heaven and Ascendent Convers the directing the Angles to the Aspects of the Planets with half the Latitude of the Body the direction of the Moon after the Common Way Of which you will hear more by and by The Directions of the Ascendent to the Bodies and Oppositions of the Planets without Latitude the directing the Angles to the Aspects of the Planets in the Zodiack upon what Ground and Authority they build their Directions in Revolutional Figures and lastly how they will prove by Demonstration That the Part of Fortune is always in the Zodiack which is the natural Consequence of their Precepts for directing it as you may see in most Authors And I do not doubt but when the so long promised and long expected Body of Astrology salutes the unlearned world we shall find Methods and Matter not only to inform our Understandings but to take off those foul Spots and Blemishes from the Face of the Divine Urania and as one hath filed the Key to the Secrets of Heaven bigger so I hope the other will take care to polish it Fifthly There is another notorious Conceit they use very gravely and to puzzle the Cause and make it look more mysterious they confound both themselves and their Pupils in teaching them how to work and perform it And that is to direct the Ascendent and Midheaven to the Aspects of a Planet in the Zodiack with half the Latitude either of the same o● the contrary Denomination whether it be Sextile or Trine And the only Author I find hath taken Pains to impose explain and teach this way in English is the Author of Clavis Astrologiae Elimata page 671 and 672. Where he endeavours to make his Disciple learn to work and understand an unintelligible non-entity i. e. the Ascendent to the Trine of Venus with half her Latitude of a contrary Denomination and that this may be the more exact and true it is there wrought Trigonometrically but how true it was performed will appear presently He there says That the Ark of this Direction is 33 deg 25 min. add this to the Right Ascention of the Mid-heaven 318 deg 2 min. and it produceth 351 deg 27 min. which shews that 21 degrees of Pisces then toucheth the Mid-heaven by Direction and that Venus wanteth a full degree of that Cusp when this pretended Direction of the Ascendent to the Trine of Venus is finished Now what man of Sence that will consult his own Reason as well as a little Skill in this Case can ever imagin Venus is in Trine to the Ascendent before she hath past the Midheaven and when she is not compleatly 90 degrees from the Horoscope which ought to be 120 And to say the Truth of all in that Case That Direction by his own Figure could not touch by true and visible Motion till Seventy one Years of Age Ark 63 17. And this by Ptolomy's measure of Time which he pretends to teach his Reader page 637. which is vastly different from this as you may see by comparing both But can any man in the Wor●d conceive or imagine That Venus is in Trine to the Ascendent when she is not 89 degrees distant from it and this put upon the World by a Mathematical Astrologer that is willing all should appear demonstrably and plain to the Readers By which you may learn How our great pretended Masters of Astrology understand the Nature and Motion of Directions Pray let this worthy Author appear once more and shew us by his own Skill and Demonstration How the Directing the Angles to the Aspects of the Planets with Half and Quarter Latitude is performed in Nature If not as he took the Pains to file the Key bigger so I will assist him in the polishing of it But let the Direction be how and when it will in his Apprehension as to Time and Operation which are indeed both amiss the main thing we have now to enquire is Why the Latitude is allowed to the Aspect of any Planet directed to an Angle And Secondly Why but half of it as in the Example before us These Gentlemen that do thus confound Astrology by these pretty Devices do it either out of Ignorance or Design for they make things difficult to be understood that Nature hath made plain and easie and puzzle us with Motions and Directions that they understand not themselves nor are there such things in the Being and Order of Nature and this is principally done by blending the two so different Circles of the Zodiack and World together which is indeed a thing utterly impossible to be done and yet keep to the true Order of Natural Motion I have told them That all Bodies which move in and near the Zodiack are to be directed in the Zodiack only and that they meet all Rays in those Circles wherein they move Thus the Sun meets all Rays both Bodies and Aspects in his own Way and Circle but all Points of Heaven in the World receives all Rays in Mundo only and by that Circle also measureth its Aspects Hence it is impossible for the Mundane Circle to measure the Zodiack or the Zodiack the Mundane Circle and this you may easily see for when the 1st degree of Sagitary is on the Tenth House the latter degrees of Capricorn Ascend So that you have but two Signs between those two Angles and hardly that but there are above four Signs then between the First and Fourth Houses and the same number between the Tenth and Seventh and so of the rest when the End of Capricorn is on the Tenth House and the beginning of Gemini Ascending But however I think or believe concerning this Conceit of Latitude in the Aspects in the Zodiack I wholly deny it in Mundo and all Aspects to the Angles for we are not beholding to those imaginary Aspects made in Zodiaco and used in Mundo but to the real Distances of the Stars made by the equally divided Figure into Twelve Houses from which Points and Places they behold the Angles c. and are just so many parts distant as do compleat that Aspect then formed and made and if any Mathematical Gentleman can do that in any part of the Figure with half the Latitude c. I should be very glad to see such a Curiosity performed But why with Half the Latitude Why truly for no other Reason but because Morinus says it and gives a demonstration to that purpose to confirm this Notion which Morinus fercheth from Blanchinus and Leovitius supposing their Authority might strengthen his But whereabout in the Figure this little parcel of half Latitude should fall I cannot apprehend for though the thing is true in it self when a Planet is furthest from his Node that the Square falls in the Intersection and by that Projection the Trine in their Sense will have different Latitude from the Body yet in this Circle in Mundo there is not one
ipse stabiliendus est Vitae Significator verùm si fuerit in Octava aut Duodeeima videndum an Luna fuerit in loco Apbetico quo casu Luna statuenda est Si Luminaria ambo fuerint hac praerogativa destituta accipiendus est Planeta qui plures dignitates obtinuerit in locis praediciis dummodo fuerit repertus in loco Aphetico quod si nec iste fuerit ad vitam moderandum idoneus assumetur tandem pro Vitae significatore Ascendens seu Linea Orientalis In Genitura Nocturna primum ●cum occupat Luna quae in locis Apheticis reperta statuitur Vitae Significatrix Si vero fuerit in Octava aut Du●decim● aut sub Terra Sol fuerit in illis vigintiquinque gradibus post Lineam Oriental●m ac in Crepusculo Matutino ipse erit vitae moderator Si Sol non fuerit ideneus iterum indagandus Planeta dominatur in illis locis dictis an fuerit in loco Aphetico quo idoneo non reperto accipienda est Pars Fortunae Horoscopus Lunaris dummodo fuerit in Aphetico loco omnibus tamen exclusis tandem Ascendens Regionis Horoscopus seu Linea Orientalis statuenda est vitae significatrix Notandum quod ut saepè contingit si fuerint Duo aut Tres Significatores in locis Apheticis Sol videlicet Luna Dominus illorum locorum tune eligendus est validior tum ratione dignitatum tum ratione situs Ex Sole Luna eligendus est potentior nam posita exempli gratia Luna in Medio Coeli in suis dignitatibus sole vero peregrino in Septima aut Nono quamvis Nativitas sit Diurna Luna erit praeferenda Dominus etiam illorum locorum potentior poterit juxta Ptolemaei Dogmata praeferri Lu●ninaribus cùm scilicet fuerit in loco eminentiori suis Dignitatibus Aneretae Absc●ssores qui vitam detruncant ex Ptolemeo sunt Corpora Saturni Martis Eorum Radii Oppositi Quadrati Eorum Antiscia Imperantia Obedientia illorum Radius Sextilis in signis longarum Ascentionum Trinus brevium qui Radii babent vires Quadrati Posita Luna Vitae Significatrice Corpus Solis interimit cum ad illam pervenerit Dir●cti●ne id●m multi contendunt de Solis Radio Quadrato Opposito Radius Quadratus Aphetae cum scilicet Apheta pervenerit ad suum Quadratum id est 75 gradus ad minus interimit Posito Apheta inter Cuspidem Domus Septimae Medium Coeli unus statuitur Anareta id est Angulus Occidentalis reliqua vero Corpora aut Radii Maleficorum incidentes inter Aphetam gradum Occidentis non interimunt sed facta discussione Beneficorum Maleficorum minuunt vel addunt annos demonstratos ex directione Aphetae ad Gradum Occidentis quae Directio est Eadem quae Ascendentis ad Oppositum loci Aphetae dicti Ho● est Ptolemei sententia Alia Schola in plurimis consentit cum Ptolemaeo discrepat in a●●quibus adsiricta ut asserunt ●bservati●nibus Pro significatione vitae ●osdem statuit quos P●olemaeus praet●r d●minum illorum locorum ver●● Ascendens seu Lineam Orientalem primariò Luminaria ubique collocata tam sub terra quàm supra ci●m maleficis occurrerint posse Aegritudinem vel Mortem decernere ut dominantia potentiis vitali naturali ex quibus consistit vita Aneretas cosdem statuit quos Ptolemaeus corpora Radios Mal●ficos Intuentia Martis Saturni Praeter●a corpus Lunae ejusque radios Quadratos Opsitos praesertim Ascendente Apbeta posita Luna Apheta Solis Corpus Radii Mal fici interimunt Et non solu● Luna Apheta verùm quocunque alio dum Sol fuerit imbut●s natura Malefica Martis aut Saturni ●um disponat eorum loco Planetae enim sub Radiis neque ad no●endum neque adjuvandum idonei ex Ptolemaeo statuit Anaretam Domum Quartam foveam Planetarum Nodos Lunares Caput praecipue Caudam Draconis Lunae Cor Leonis Pallilitium Antares Herculem Lances Librae aliasque fixas Maleficas Dominum Octavae terminos Maleficorum sic Eclipses Cometes Incidentes in locum Aphetae Aphetam ad suum Quadratum ponit interimere buncque esse ultimum naturalis vitae terminum quod Nicepso Pithosyris mixtice d●cuerunt asserentes neminem in vita posse transgredi Trimorion id est congeriem trium Signorum Radiationem Tetragonicam quae superet gradus 75. nam al●ter esset Radius Sextilis Hinc in boc tractu Italiae posset quis vivere annis 120. posito Apheta Ascendente in principio Leonis ex distantia gradum usque ad principium Scorpii In Germania verò Regionibus in quibus Polus Boreus magis elevatur annis admodum pluribus pro numero graduum inter Ascentiones primi gradus Leonis Scorpii Plin. lib. 7. cap. 4. meminit inter Appeninum Montem Padum plurimos diversis annis vixisse tempore longiori Epigenes negavit quemquam posse vivere annis 122. Berosus ex Plinio annis 117. narrant Joannem de Temporibus vixisse annis 125. WHereas in the following Decumbitures the time of Death is assigned to divers Causes so that sometimes it may seem to be different and various from the Opinion of Ptolemy yet seeing all things do agree with the Observations of our modern Professors I think it necessary to add here these few things Concerning the Space of Life the opinion of Ptolemy in his Quad●ipartite is this The Aphetas or Significators of Life are Five And those are the Sun the Moon the Ascendent Part of Fortune and that Planet who hath most dignities in the place of the Sun Moon Ascendent and Part of Fortune in the Celestial Figure and in the place of the Conjunction or Opposition of the Luminaries preceding the Nativity in which this Order is to be observed In a Diurnal Geniture see if the Sun is in an Aphetical place and fit to give and determine Life which places are the mid-Mid-heaven the Eleventh House the First the Ninth and Seventh any House above the Earth except the Eighth and Twelfth for then he is allow'd to be giver of Life but if he should be in the Eighth or Twelfth see if the Moon be in an Aphetical place if so the Moon is to be accepted But if neither of the Luminaries should be so qualified then take that Planet who hath most Dignities in the before-mentioned places and in an Aphetical place also but if there is none such then you must take the Ascendent for Giver of Life In a Nocturnal Geniture the Moon claims the first place among those qualified to be givers of Life But if she should be in the Eighth or Twelfth or under the Earth and the Sun should be in those Five and twenty degrees next succeeding the Ascendent and in the Matutine Crepusculum he shall be give● of Life But if the Sun should not be so qualified then see
Directions but besides that of the Moon the Scorpion's Heart the Parallel of Saturn and the Mundane Square of Mars Our Author tells us That Domina Foelix Gloveria was born the 5th of December at 34 minutes past 6 in the Morning 1588. ●ub Lat. 42. and on the 25 day of November 1633. she having been at a Vinyard to recreate her self being returned to her House in the Evening fell sick of a Fever under which Sickness she lingred and languisht till the 18th day of January following and at 7 of the Clock that Evening dyed And this Argoll says was from the Moon to the Square of Saturn and the Ascendent to the. Trine of Saturn Are not these two hopeful Directions and like to give a Fever For he mentiors no other cause but this And had it been a Quartan Ague he would have given the same reason for it no doubt To this I object First The Moon is not giver of Life and it is that alone must be directed for Death but in this Nativity no Direction to the Moon c●n kill Secondly If she was Hileg the Direction he depends on could not kill which is the Square of Saturn because the Sextile of Venus falls in the same place exactly But besides that the Moon to the Square of Saturn c●m Lat. came up about Three years before this without Latitude and I would know why that did not kill Thirdly The Ascendent hath nothing to do in the case no more than the Moon h●th first because it is not Aphe●a secondly there was no such Direction at that time to the Ascendent as the Trine of Saturn for that came up at Two or Three and Twenty Years of age But if it were allowed to be at this time it makes nothing to his purpose nor her death Fourthly If all these things were allowed that he pleads for in his Calculation yet the Ark of Direction will not do because the Ark that must give 45 years which was her age is 49 degrees 30 minutes and his Ark is not 45 degrees full out and for that reason among the rest all he says signifies nothing to me But to be short I am positive that the Sun is giver of Life in this Nativity and this I am sure none of them all can deny and this being allowed I have nothing else to do but to proceed to my Correction or at least ways to give my Reasons for her death and I will not repeat things too often having spoke fully before in this Treatise of the Use and Authority of the Giver of Life and for the greater Satisfaction of the Enquirer I have calculated the Places of the Sun Moon and Saturn which you will find in the Figure set to his Time exactly by my Division of the Heavens as followeth As to Argol's Figure I will not alter it a minute but take it as he hath delivered it to us with 14 degrees of Sagitary ascending and by that Figure prove that she had Directions suitable to the Fate she underwent and that she had not the Ascendent to the Trine of Saturn at that time but to the Square of him and that was the first that came up then the Sun to the Mundane Square of Saturn next to the Trine of Mars and lastly to the Zodiacal Parallel of the Moon The distance of Saturn from the Fourth House is 49 degrees to which ●dding the proportional part 47 minutes gives the Ark of Direction of the Sun to the Square of Saturn in mundo d. d. 49 degrees 47 minutes which turned into time gives 45 years and ●lmost 4 months and so I will give the Directions all together that gave her both Sickness and Death Aseendens ad □ ♄ 49 00 44 7 1632 ☉ ad □ ♄ in mundo d. d. 49 47 45 3 1633 ☉ ad △ ♂ in Zodiac 50 47       ☉ ad parall ☽ in Zodiac 52 1       Thus you see without any alteration of his Time and Figure here are no less than Four Directions and three of them to the Hileg which will kill in any Nativity but that which began the mischief was the Ascendent to the Square of ♄ but the reason of the Fever was from the Rays of Mars and the Moon who were both in Square in the Radix the one in Opposition and the other in Square to M●rcury Perhaps some men may scruple and doubt the Direction of Mars to have any thing to do in killing because it is his Trine To such Enquirers I shall only say this the T●ines of the Maleficks do not kill singly but when they club in with other Directions they certainly increase their Malignity and help on the Work of Death at least they specificate the Disease and this I have often found and also mentioned before and therefore let this suffice here for that matter And in the next place I think I have a Question or two to ask my Adversary let him be who he will and that is to desire him according to his Principles and Practice to tell me Why the Ascendent and ●un directed to the Body of Mercury Square of Mars Lord of the Fourth and Opposition of the Moon Lady of the Eighth did not kill this Lady at 21 years of age or there-ab●uts I am sure Argol and divers others of them have killed many a one with half that Power and would at this day predict Death too upon those Directions if they were not past so horridly ignorant are they in their Profession And now lest you should think me as ignorant as they are I will tell you why these could not kill if the Principles I pretend to are true for the Lady of the Eighth is no more to me than the Lord of the Tenth but to them it is an Idol the reason why those Three Directions could not kill is because at the same time the Sun and Ascendent came to the Square of Venus and T●ine of Jupiter And how this is performed and to be understood every one that understands the 14th Chapter of the Third Book of Ptolemy's Quadripartite knows very well Argol tells us That N. Burattus the Bononian was born the 27th of May at 2 hours P. M. 1553. sub Lat. 44. and that he dyed the 17th of March in the year 1627. on the Direction of the Sun Hileg to the Body of Mars in Virgo the Figure is as followeth set to his time and my division of the Heavens You see now it serves a turn he tells us of the Hileg being directed to the Body of Mars for his Death and this a single Direction too which I can hardly allow Pray do but consider with your selves what Reason I have to believe this single Direction killed this man when you see the Sun to the Body of Mars in Cardinal Columna did not kill nor in Cardinal Richelieu though it fell between 50 and 60 years of age nor in the King of Spain his Son nor in Cosmus II. Duke of
not frown at it be angry and resist with all the Power and Force he had If one should bring him up to a high Mountain would he not turn away his Eyes and refuse to see any thing like Hercules's Cerberus Because it would be impossible he should endure thus the Light and look upon so many good things as would be about him if he were not accustomed thereto by little and little First then he would cast his Sight upon Shadows then in the Shadow of the Sun he would behold the Figure of something and next the Bodies themselves made plain by the Light After that he would raise his Eyes to Heaven by Night he would look upon the Moon and the Stars in the Day he would inure himself to turn his Sight toward the Sun and think with himself that this is the great Torch which distinguisheth the Times and causeth the various Revolutions of the Year and that from his Brightness those Shadows proceeded which he had seen in the Cave Into what Discourses I pray you do you think he would enter so often as he should remember his dark Cave his Chains his former Thoughts and his Shadows surely he would prostrate himself before God and in all Reverence thank him because he was at last drawn out of that dark Prison and would deplore the State of his Fellows which he had lest behind him in such Miseries But if it were the Custom in that Cave to applaud honour and recompence with a Reward those that should see these Shadows more distinctly or that could best remember which had been the first Shadow or the second or which had passed by but once or those that were to pass by presently if there were such an Order in their Motion and Going Can we think it possible that our Man brought ●orth into the Light would wish to have a Share in those Honours Praises and Rewards again or envy those that should enjoy them within the Cave I do not think it but rather believe that he would more willingly go to the utmost part of the North and toward the Frozen Sea than to be King of the Blind But suppose that the same Man were to return again at the End of some time into his Place within the Cave would he not be as if he had lost his seeing having left the Light to go again into Darkness And if they should dispute within which of them all saw the Shadows best and that our man should speak of them what he now knows would they not all mock and laugh at him think ye and cry out That their Fellow was mad or bewitched and that he was much the worse for going out and that he was returned stone-blind and then with a general Vote and Consent all agree That there is manifest Danger and Peril in going out of the Cave and besides if any one should go in to untie them and bring them forth into the Light they would without doubt use their utmost Endeavour to resist with Hand and Foot and if they could pull out his Eyes too that should endeavour to do this Kindness for them and bring them into the Light and to the Enjoyment of real Truths Even such is Plato's Cave the Exposition of which may be seen in the Author himself from whence it was taken and which Politian hath since represented in a Latin Poem called Lamia It is needless for me to undertake an Exposition of this Parabolical Cave seeing the thing is so plain in it self and so easie to be apprehended by any Reader how dull or stupid soever he should happen to be However I will make this one Remark upon it in reference to the Author's Design in the thing And that is There are a great Number in the World who hug themselves in their own Notions Opinions and Apprehensions derived and formed according to their own Sentiments of things in Nature or else borrowed from Tradition and Antiquity which when they are throughly grounded in them they count it no less than Heresie in any man that shall question their Truth And he or they that are the most excellent among them either for some peculiar Faculties and Abilities or else their Proficiency in some sort of Errors more than the rest of the Society p●ffs them up And they would be thought Little Angels or at the least Heroes and perswade the rest of Mankind That all they who are out of their Cave know nothing in comparison to them who see such pretty shadows and such gallant Puppets and therefore they that are willing to dwell in the Cave they shall have my free consent to continue there still and let them believe their Fooleries are Truths their Shadows are Realities and their Puppets are living Bodies it is no Injury to me I will peep in upon them and also pity them Nay I will go further too I will call them out but if that will not do Peace be with them for I will not run the Risque of going in to them lest I stumble and break my Face a very fit Reward for one that is fool-hardy and will venture his own Life to inform another's Understanding It is one part and a great one too of man's Happiness that he hath Sence and Reason to consider the good and bad Occurrences of his Life and thereby to endeavour to chuse the one and shun and evade the other and also to examine the Probabilities and Improbabilities of the Rudiments Rules and Methods laid down to instruct and teach the Students in all Parts of Natural Learning and certainly should we refuse and deny our selves the Use of our Reason in these things and swallow down all things greedily that are delivered to us under Pretence of Information for absolute Truths without so much as enquiring the rationality of the thing and its coherence with its own Principles and the order of Nature we may in a short time herd with the more sensible sort of Beasts and also tell our Fellow-Creatures We out-do our first Parents whom we often think very hard of in giving Credit to Lies and Falshood they were deceived by Suggestion and Perswasion we by Imposition and Custom they in their Innocence knew no such thing as Error But we know little else and if any Man doubts the Truth of this Assertion let him repair to his own Bosom for full Satisfaction It is certain and beyond all Question that Errors Mistakes and Lies are more common obvious and practicable than real Truths for in an Action or Accident within a Bow-shot of our own Habitations how many various Stories shall we hear about it And how variously and confusedly every Relater shall deliver the Circumstances of this Action is known to every one and perhaps at last when the best Account comes it may have some mixture of Error either a Mistake chargeable to the Defect of Memory or being willing to palliate some part of the Action by a soft and tender Relation when at the
Thirdly That of Alcabitius as he hath delivered it himself in that Chapter called De esse Circuli Accidentali and learnedly handled by Valentine Naibod in his Comment on that Treatise page 137. Hence the Method of this Projection is thus To the Time given he takes the Right Ascention of the Midheaven in the common way to which he adds 90 degrees and under the Pole of the Region you set your Figure for take the degree of the Ecliptick answering to that Oblique Ascention as in the usual way of this Ecliptical Point Orient they take the Semidiurnal and Seminocturnal Arks each of which they divide into three equal parts and then proceed thus To the Right Ascention of the Midheaven they add one third of the Semidiurnal Ark and that gives the Right Ascention of the Eleventh House the degree of which you take in the Table of Right Ascention and so of the Twelfth House Then to the Right Ascention of the degree ascending they add one third of the Seminocturnal Ark and that gives the Right Ascention of the Second House whose degree is taken as above in the Table of Right Ascention and so of the Third likewise concernin gwhich I would give you an Example at large but that I think it is not worth while either to you or my self and this Way and Method hath been said by some to be Ptolomy's but untruly as you shall see hereafter The Falshood of this Projection will appear divers ways and soon put it out of doubt that it is wholly Fictitious and Imaginary and hath no ground in Nature and that for these Reasons following First All Planets pass the Cusps of the Houses in the Ecliptick and therefore the Cusps taken in the Equator as here must be vastly different sometimes and therefore very false Secondly the Distance of the Houses are not Equal either in the Ecliptick or Equator for in the Latitude of 51 degrees when 7 degrees of Virgo doth ascend the first scruple of Aries Culminates the Semidiurnal Ark of 7 degrees of Virgo is 101 degrees 6 minutes and the third part of it is 33 degrees 42 minutes Now by the Rule precedeing there should be one degree and a half of Cancer on the Eleventh House and 3 degrees of Leo on the Twelfth So that between the Tenth and Eleventh Houses there is 30 degrees and an half betwen the Eleventh and Twelfth Houses 31 degrees and an half and between the Twelfth and Ascendent 33 degrees and an half so that contrary to the Rule when the Semidiurnal Ark grows less that of the Equator grows larger Thirdly and most to the purpose The Semidiurnal Ark of the Ascendent may serve its own Distance from the Twelfth but not the Tenth and Eleventh for at the same time the Semidiurnal Ark of 7 of Virgo is 101 degrees 6 minutes the Semidiurnal Ark of no degrees of Cancer on the Eleventh House is 122 degrees 30 minutes therefore your own Reason will tell you this Division is false because the Distance of the Tenth and Eleventh Houses is but 33 degrees 42 minutes which ought by true Rule and Motion to be 40 degrees and 50 minutes And besides the Distance of each House in the Equator is so various that sometimes it is but 19 degrees and sometimes 40 by which means there is no certainty of the Pole of the House the Ascendent excepted With many other Objections which to spare Pains and Paper I do omit in this place Fourthly That of Campanus and Gazulus two men mentioned together as if they had been Contemporaries but of about 400 Years distance the first I suppose invented this Division and the latter reviv'd it again after it had been almost forgot This way of Campanus doth also divide the Heavens into Twelve Parts called Houses and this done by the Vertical Circle and is the most rational of all the four mention'd but yet sufficiently false for though he divides the Vertical Circle equally yet he divides nothing else equally neither the Equator nor the Ecliptick nor true Motion which of all is the most certain and unquestionable And therefore in these two Examples following you may see how the other parts of the Heavens are to be trusted to in that Division For Example Let the beginning of Capricorn be on the Tenth and Aries ascending in the Latitude of 51. then you have 8 degrees of Capricorn on the Eleventh House which should have been 18 degrees and 24 of Capricorn on the Twelfth House which ought to be 13 degrees of Aquary so that you have by that Division two Signs compleatly intercepted in the Twelfth Let Cancer o degrees be on the Tenth and o degrees of Libra ascending then by that Division you will have 27 degrees of Cancer on the Eleventh which ought to be 6 degrees in Leo and 27 of Leo on the Twelfth which ought to be 6 degrees in Virgo This also is notoriously false and not only in my Opinion but according to the Modus Rationalis also And therefore let these Objections be sufficient to prove this Division of the Heavens Erroneous which will likewise further appear in the Examination of the Modus Rationalis both being subject to the same way of Trial and Proof as you will soon see by what follows Fifthly That of Joannes de Regiomonte or Regiomontanus called the Modus Rationalis which divides the Heavens into Twelve equal Parts in the Equator but not in the Zodiack where the Cusps or Beginnings of the Houses do really fall and therefore all other Parts of that Line drawn from one Intersection of the Meridian and Horizon to the other signifies nothing to us so much as that part or point that cuts the Ecliptick for that alone is the Cusp of the House and the only Point that we direct under its peculiar Pole This Division is by Morinus commended as the most exact extant and yet in page 409. he complains of its Deficiency and tells us afterward That by a new Invention of his own he had supplied that Defect and made it serviceable to all Parts of the Universe even within the Polar Circles as you may see in the Page before quoted to which I refer you for further Information in that matter But I do say positively That the dividing the Equator or Vertical Circle into Twelve equal Parts is utterly impossible to form a true Astrological Scheme that shall agree with Motion let them draw their Lines of Distance from what Points they please either from the Intersection of the Meridian and Horizon the Poles of the World the Poles of the Zodiack or any other Point whence they shall think convenient provided they will let those Lines so drawn divide the Globe Into two equal parts if extended quite round Nor do I see any Reason why the Poles of the Houses should be so different and unequal as they are in this called The Rational Way c. For in the Region of 51. the Pole of the
Eleventh is almost 32 Pole of the Twelfth 47 so that the Eleventh differeth 32 from the Tenth House the Twelfth 15 degrees from the Eleventh and the Ascendent but 4 degrees from the Twelfth But more plainly to shew you that this Division is false observe Let us suppose a Figure in which the very beginning of Capricorn is on the Tenth according to this Division in the Latitude of 51 you have 13 degrees of Capricorn on the Eleventh which should be 18 and 6 degrees of Aquary on the Twelfth which should be 13 and 24 of Taurus on the Second which should be but 17 and 17 of Gemini on the Third which should be but 11 degrees of that Sign And this I thus prove Let the Sun be then in o degrees of Capricorn the Semidiurnal Ark of the Sun is 56 degrees 48 minutes of which the third part is 18 degrees 56 minutes and suppose the Sun to be on the degree of the Ascendent exactly then by the Rational when the Sun comes to the Cusp of the Twelfth there will be 1 degree of Sagitary on the Tenth whose right Ascention is 238 degrees and 51 minutes this I substract from the Sun 's Right Ascention and that shews the Sun is 31 degrees 9 minutes distant from the Tenth House which by dividing of true Motion ought to be 38 degrees very near which gives 24 of Scorpio on the Mid●eaven and not 1 degree of Sagitary when the Sun comes to the Cusp of that House Hence it is evident that the Rational differeth from Truth 7 degrees at that time on the Cusp of that House Again When the Sun comes to the Cusp of the Eleventh House by the Rational there will be 18 degrees of Sagitary on the Tenth whose Right Ascention is 256 degrees 57 minutes which I substract from the Sun 's Right Ascention and the Distance is 13 degrees 3 minutes which ought in truth to be 18 degrees 56 minutes by the Diurnal Ark with 12 degrees 28 minutes on the Tenth instead of 18 degrees of Sagitary so that it is plain the Rational on the Cusp of this House also differs from Truth almost 5 degrees But yet I do confess that the Difference is not so great when Signs of long Ascention culminate and yet that Difference is considerable also especially to those who calculate the Cusps of the Houses to minutes and seconds Thus I have said enough to any ingenious Man to shew him how he may proceed to examin the other parts of the Circle and discover the Errors of the Modus Rationalis which hath so long passed for Current without being question'd by any before after this manner and though this way of dividing the Heavens may seem to be wholly new yet I can assure you it is no such thing but of greater Antiquity than most Artists do imagine which will further appear in what follows about the sixth way of Dividing the Heavens The Sixth way is That which I call Ptolomy's and it is to say all in a Word the only true Division in Nature it being Real and not imaginary agreeing with its self and its own Principles and built on that which will never alter while Time endures in this we divide true Motion but they divide empty Air we divide that which is visible they divide that which is only imaginary and take it for granted that because they divide the Equator into equal parts therefore that Division must be also true in the Ecliptick which you see is false Nor is it possible ever to project a true Division of the Heavens either upon the Globe or by Trigonometry where the Equator is made the Basis of the Division and the Reason's plain because the Ecliptick and Equator have different Poles they may by straining of it make it agree in some but never in all parts of the Circle 1. The Division of the Heavens into Houses or Parts so called ought to be proportional one to another according to the Quantity of the Diurnal or Nocturnal Arks and this is proved from the Words of Ptolomy when he makes the Eleventh a Sextile to the first the Tenth a Square to the Ascendent and the Ninth an exact Trine to the Horoscope as you may see Lib. 3. Cap. 11. and this Harmony doth not consist in the Mechanical Lines or Circles of the Houses drawn or imagined but by exact and due Proportions of the Circle by which they are made assigned and dedicated to those Parts called Houses 2. It is not sufficient for these Houses to be equally divided in one Circle only whether it be the Equator the Zodiack or the Vertical or any other chosen for such a purpose but out of these Circles also they ought to be equally divided by a true proportional Division and this for the more certain finding the Giver of Life which in the other domifying Divisions will be most uncertain according to the ways laid down by Ptolomy to find it 3. As the Division of the Heavens is Natural so it ought to be from the Motion and Influence of the Stars and not the empty Spaces of Heaven or Air. These Houses therefore have a sort of Familiarity by Rays among themselves yet there are no real Rays without a luminous Body be present for the Houses have no Rays of their own hence it is visible that the Houses are made for that End and Purpose the Stars continually emitting their Influence and Rays and not as so many Points Marks and Circles in the Heavens and Air. Again the Way and Power of Operation is in the Agent it self Whence it is plain the Stars do variously operate according to their various Positions and this produced by their Light and Motion and not received from the Houses And besides consider the various Rays Familiarities and Aspects that the Stars make to the Angles or any other Points and Parts of Heaven are really and truly the Effects of Motion only and the Houses are but as so many Distances in a Circle by which that Motion is measured and judged and as the Motion of the Stars is regular and certain so the Houses and their Distances ought to be proportional and agreeable to that Motion that determines them from whose Centers the Luminous Bodies do more perfectly and powerfully emit their Rays to the Angles c. 4. The Points of the Horizon rising and the Meridian from which Lines being drawn from one to another and those Celestial Mansions divided are real Points and Parts of Heaven in which the Stars do rise and culminate The Houses as 't is said have all their Power and consequently their Quality and Quantity from the Luminous Bodies therefore they have all these things from their Motion and Presence as well in the Angles as in the intermediate Points Whence it is plain the Quantity of the Motion of the Stars from the Point of their Rising to the Point Culminating is and ought to be divided into the Mansions of the Houses and
into twelve equal Parts and that for the very same Reasons above alledged against the Division of the Vertical Circle For though they do not err on the same Bottom and Principle yet they err equally in the Consequence and thing they aim at which is a true and equal Division of the Heavens Many things more might be said in the matter but I think these are sufficient 6. The Division of the Heavens and the true parting of the Houses by the Pen of Nature do each of them consist of two Temporal Hours either of the Place or Star That is by a proportional Division of the Motions of the Moveable Arks from one Angle to another for it is most certain every thing that moves measures its own Distance by Motion and that Motion by Time as you have in effect heard above This Division of the Heavens is natural and freely offers it self to the Principles of Reason for Authority and Proof for according to this Measure and Motion the Houses are all equal and a Star or Constellation hath an equal tarriance in time in its Passage in and through every House which they have not by any other Division but by this of two temporal Hours For the Stars do dispence their Influence to us by a constant and successive Motion both in their Ascention and Descention in all Hemispheres and if they do continue longer in one House than in another the Effects as well as the way of judging thereof must be both false and irregular and it cannot be denied but that such a Division is false and the reason is because those Mansions Portions or Houses of Heaven are unequal Again a Star according to this Division being in the Center of the Eleventh House doth behold the Ascendent by a Sextile in the Tenth by a Square and in the Ninth by a Trine according to the Doctrine of Ptolomy Lib. 3. Cap. 11. de Loco Prorogatore which is not re vera to be found in any other Division whatsoever which proves this Distribution to be truly natural and also agreeable to the Rules and Precepts of Ptolomy And the Reason is plain because a Star found or placed in the Center of the Eleventh House is exactly one third of the Diurnal Ark distant from the Ascendent in the Tenth half the same Ark distant and in the Ninth two thirds of the same Ark exactly from the Horoscope which no other Division till this time discovered is able to perform besides this of two temporal Hours to a House which I have elswhere shewed more at large But perhaps it may be objected That though two temporal Hours are used as is here laid down yet the Houses are not equal because out of the Equator those above the Earth toward the North are greater than those under the Earth to the South the contrary And therefore this Division cannot be Regular and Equal To this it may be answered That an Equality among the Houses is only required in the same Hemisphere the World being divided into four Quarters or at leastwise into two Hemispheres one above and the other beneath yet the Hemisphere below differs nothing in Quality and Figure from that above nor can they differ one from another in any thing but Quantity therefore although a Star should perform its Diurnal Ark by a lesser Circle than his Nocturnal or the contrary yet still that Star passeth through the four quarters of the two Hemispheres nor doth the smalness of his Ark in any of them abate of his Power and Effect his Distance considered As we do experience in the Moon who passeth more swiftly through the Zodiack and in a far less Orb than any of the rest and yet we see she doth not less affect the Times and Seasons than they do From whence it is plain that the Stars do not less produce their Effects in the smaller Quarters by a swift Motion than in the greater by a slow Therefore this is no rational Objection to the Division of the Heavens by Temporal Hours seeing they are really and truly proportional parts in all quarters of Heaven and are all equal one to another as well in Influx as Motion notwithstanding the Hemispheres are different in their Measure And besides this Foundation being laid the Prorogator must remain immoveable in Mundo that is in the horary Circle of Position Which is confusedly jumbled hither and thither by the increase and decrease of the Ark in the common way according to their Motion and Method of Directions For whosoever pretends to the Art of Directions and doth not understand the horary Circles of Position I am sure he doth not know the Motion by which all Directions are made for all Directions are made by one and the same Motion both direct and convers and this according to the Doctrine and Method of Placid de Titis Thus I have endeavoured to shew the several ways of Dividing the Heavens into Houses and the Errors that do attend them and that this of all the Methods yet used is the only true and natural one and most agreeable to Motion which every one may use or refuse according as they are informed in their Understanding Nor is it my Design to impose upon any if I had Power so to do but I offer it to the Judgment and Censure of the Ingenious and for the Ignorant and Capricious they may let it alone CHAP. III. Of Directions to the Angles c. DIrections are of two Sorts and Denominations i. e. in Zodiaco in Mundo The Sun and Moon are capable of being directed both ways but the Angles of a Figure can be only directed in Mundo they being subject to the Accidents and Division of no Circle but that which constitutes the Measure of each Quadrant and is also measured by the Parts of the Diurnal and Nocturnal Arks And of these Directions only I shall take Liberty to speak in this Place and also shew those monstrous Absurdities invented by witty men that knew nothing of the Art and imposed them upon such who swallowed the Errors without asking Why or Wherefore and are at this present in general Repute among most of our modern Professors and this not only by those that pretend to be Teachers of the Art but also in Print under the Hands of some of the greatest Masters of this Science by which means the Professors of this Age are mis-led in their Practice as well as misguided in their first Rudiments and very hard to be retrieved when once Custom and Age hath confirmed them therein First It hath been and still is the common Method in Practice to direct the Midheaven and Horoscope to the Bodies and Oppositions of the Planets with and without Latitude and according as occasion serves they are both equally violent in giving Diseases and Death as you may see in their own Books and under their own Hands For example Argol says Henry II. King of France died on the Ascendent to the Body of
of the Moon and the residue they call the Ark of Direction which is 30 degrees 47 minutes at which time the Moon is really in 30 degrees of Aries with Latitude and not in 11 degrees the Place of the Sun for when the Moon comes to the 11th degree of Aries she hath 5 degree of North Latitude by which reason she passeth the Sun's Body with and in 22 degrees of Pisces under the Horary Circle as you may see by the Globe if you please so that the true Direction of the Moon to the Body of the Sun 23 degrees 45 Minutes is not taken notice of by the common Professors and others nor indeed is it known to them for in all their Books they tell you There is but one Direction of the Moon to the Body of the Sun in that Position and that differs 7 degrees 2 minutes from the true one I am sure there is no man but what will readily agree with me in the Truth of this Direction and as readily agree That the Moon 's Latitude ought to be taken notice of in the Place where the Direction is finished for by this Reason when a Star hath large Latitude and the Moon large Latitude also of a contrary Denomination the Direction may be of little or no effect because their Bodies or Oppositions may be 10 or 12 degrees distant from one another when the Direction is really compleat In the next Place I would direct the Moon to her own Square in the Zodiack and this under the Pole of the Ascendent also and that falls in 8 degrees of Taurus and according to the modish way of directing now in Use and Practice they substract the Oblique Ascention of the Moon taken at that time from the Oblique Ascention of the 8th degree of Taurus and the Ark of Direction so wrought is 43 degrees 00 minutes but the true Ark of Direction of the Moon to her own Square taken with the Latitude she hath in that Point is 34 degrees 8 minutes differing from the other wrought in the common way 8 degrees 52 minutes And this you may perceive by the Globe as well as the Tables that the Moon meets her own Square in 19 degrees of Aries For at that time when they tell us That Direction is compleat and finished the Square of the Moon is past that Pole of Position in the Horary Circle about 5 degrees of Altitude above the Horizon which if you rightly understand it will soon appear to be a notorious false way of directing And yet among all the Professors Teachers and Pretenders at this day there is no other way in use nor is there any other to be practised with general approbation and so long as no body questions it every one is satisfied Nay our great Mathematical Teachers too those Men of Numbers who to say the Truth of them know the least in Astrology of any men they I say have swallowed the Gudgeon too and yet we forsooth must trust to them in the Division of the Heavens and contriving Methods to direct by and which you see are false in many things and in this for one There is not a man in being though totally unacquainted with Mathematical Learning but will soon agree that every Star that is directed must meet those Rays they are directed to in their own Way and Circle wherein their Motion is performed and if you direct them in some Conceited imaginary Circle contrary to Nature you cannot believe that Direction true For it is perfectly impossible that he who travels Oxford Road should ever meet that man or men that travel York Road I suppose you will judge the Reason of it Why just so it is in our Case now before us but perhaps a Diagram may more aptly shew it and make it plain to you In this Diagram let a A ♋ B ♑ represent the Meridian Line C ♈ D a part of the Equator A ♈ B the Eastern Finitor a part of which is the Point ascending C ☽ D the M●on 's Way in Mundo O ☽ E M the Moon 's Way in the Zodiack with Latitude in which prick'd Line she meets her own Square or any other Body or Ray that falls in the Ecliptick or near it for it is perfectly impossible that the Moon or any other Star should meet the Beams or B●dies of other Stars in a Way Line or Ci●cle that they move not in And I believe you will grant me this without pressing That it would seem horridly ridiculous for any one to pretend to direct the Sun in the Prick'd Line O ☽ E M when we know he always moves in the Line ♑ ♈ ♋ Why then is it not as absurd to direct the Moon in the Line ♑ ♈ ♋ when she doth not move there but in the Line O ☽ E M 5 degrees from it as I believe by this time you understand and are ready to grant Now let us take a view of the common way and observe how ridiculous the thing appears upon Examination for they neither direct the Moon in the Ecliptick nor in her Circle of Latitude but out of both For they take her Oblique Ascention with the same Latitude she hath at Birth which in our Example in the Diagram is 1 degree South as you may see by the Prick'd Line ☽ N and in that Line and Quantity of Latitude they do direct her through the Natives whole Life when it is plain she doth not move in it but in the other Line ☽ E □ M which is 4 degrees from it when she comes to the beginning of Gemini Therefore if you take no more notice of her Latitude after you have taken her Oblique Ascention at Birth which in the present Example is 1 degree South you direct her all a-long with that 1 degree of Latitude and no more and in an imaginary Circle not yet known to Nature which appears to be ridiculou●ly false because the Moon is not there In the Diagram Let the Moon be in 00 degrees of Aries with one degree South and I would here direct her under the Pole of the Ascendent to her own Square which falls in Zodiaco in 00 degrees of Cancer and the Ark of Direction in their way sine Lat. is 54 degrees 37 minutes And by their Principles there is no such Direction as the Moon to her own Square cum Lat. because they say the Square always falls in the Ecliptick and can have no Latitude but how true that is I judge you may see by the annexed Diagram but the true Ark of Direction must be wrought with Latitude and the Ark so wrought is 63 degrees 4 minutes differing from that of theirs 9 degrees 27 minutes which is a small Fault with them but a plaguy Blunder in Direction For do you think that their Direction and mine can have an equal Force Or that the Direction the Moon meets in her own way is not of more Force than that in the Zodiack or the other out of her Way
a Figure for the 25th day of September 1689. at 2 Hours after Noon at which time 8 degrees of Capricorn Ascends and the Part of Fortune is within 9 degrees of the Cusp of the Ninth House being 39 degrees distant from the Midheaven 14 degrees of Scorpio then culminating Then if you set another Figure at 6 of the Clock the same Night you will find at that time 11 degrees of Capricorn on the Tenth and 28 degrees of Aries on the Ascendent and the Part of Fortune is in 27 degrees of Capricorn in the Tenth House 16 degrees within the Cusp Then if you set another Figure at 10 of the Clock that Night you will find 10 degrees of Pisces culminate and 13 degrees of Cancer Ascend and the Part of Fortune in 14 degrees of Aries upon the Cusp of the Eleventh distant from the Midheaven 34 degrees Again set a Fourth Figure for the 26th day at 2 in the Morning at which time there is 14 degrees of Taurus on the Cusp of the Tenth and 26 of Leo Ascending and the Part of Fortune in the very end of Gemini in the Eleventh House 7 degrees within the Cusp Let us set another Figure for 6 of the Clock in the Morning and then we shall have 11 degrees of Cancer on the Tenth and 8 degrees of Lib●a Ascending and the Part of Fortune in 14 degrees of Canc●r in the Tenth being skipt back from 7 degrees within the Eleventh to 4 degrees within the Tenth Let us take the pains to set another Figure for 10 of the Clock the same 26 Day in the Morning and then we have 10 degrees of Virgo on the 10th and 8 of Libra Ascending and the Part of Fortune is 28 degrees in Leo in the Ninth House 12 degrees distant from the Tenth And to make up the 24 Hours let us set another Figure for 2 of the Clock Afternoon the 26th day and then you find 15 degrees of Scorpio on the Tenth and 9 degrees of Capricorn Ascending and the Part of Fortune in 19 degrees of Libra distant from the Cusp of the Ninth 2 degrees almost and from the Cusp of the Tenth 26. So that you may observe that in the first 12 Hours of this 24 the Part of Fortune runs end ways 83 degrees and in the last 12 Hours it danceth back again 70 degrees By which it appears here is a three●old Motion One its Progress through the Zodiack by which Motion it moves through the Twelve Signs The Second is its direct running Motion And the Third is its Retrograde Running Motion And all these in 24 Hours which was to be proved and I hope it is so Again If you look to July 31st 1694. at 7 of the Clock that Morning when 7 degrees of Gemini culminates the Part of Fortune is 15 degrees in Taurus 13 degrees from the Cusp of the Ninth in that House At 5 of the Clock after Noon when 2 degrees of Capricorn Ascends the Part of Fortune is 9 degrees in Virgo in the Eighth House nearer by much to the Cusp of the Eighth than the Ninth and yet at 12 of the Clock that Night when 24 degrees of Gemini Ascends the Part of Fortune is got into the Ninth again So that you see it danceth backward and forward from one House to another which must of Necessity render all the Directions to that Point modo communi of no effect because every degree in Direction motu rapto changeth the Face of Heaven which you see causeth this dancing Motion in the Part of Fortune And for that Reason the Promittor cannot find the Part of Fortune when Significator because he plays at Bo peep and endeavours not to be found I wou●d not have you think that there are no other Times to be found but these two in which the Part of Fortune danceth in this manner because I have mentioned no more I have given these Two Times that you may readily see what I am endeavouring to shew and I mention no more because I will not blot Paper to so little purpose as I should in giving you some hundreds of these Examples so easie to be found by any that are willing to take Pains however I will name one Time more and that is October the 26th anno 1693. see what you can make of it And as if the Part of Fortune was not loaded with Fooleries and Absurdities enough Origanus helps forward the Work When teaching his Pupils to take the Part of Fortune in a Revolutional Figure he directs them to take the Distance of the Sun and Moon in the Radix to which they must add the Degree and Minute of the Revolutional Ascendent and the Sum shews the Part of Fortune in that Scheme 12 Signs being cast away if need be And for this you may read his own Wo●ds if you please page 779. de Effecti Where you may find an Example performed with a great deal of Pains and to a very little Purpose but it is by such Methods we have gain'd most of the choice Notions we now vapour with The like you may read in Argol's Ptolom●us parvus in cap. 1. De Revolu●●nibus pag. 173. What shall we say now to the whole matter if the Part of Fortune be thus uncertain And what Credit is to be given to those Directions of Argol in his De Diebus Criticis where he makes two Cardinals one on the Part of Fortune to the Body of the Moon and the other to the Antiscion of Jupiter p 160. pag. 330. But especially in the Duke of Montmoranci where he makes the Part of Fortune to the Antiscion of Mars to kill him and so doth J. G. in Bishop Usher's Nativity kill him with the Part of Fortune to the Opposition of Mercury In the first of these namely Argol the Part of Fortune was according to the Doctrine of Ptolomy giver of Life but how far the true Pars Fortunae was from his I leave to the ingenuous Enquirer to examine but what J. G. talks of the Part of Fortune in the Bishop's Nativity for I cannot think nor imagine for it is not there in an Aphetical Place which if it were it could not be allowed to be Hileg because the Sun and Moon are both above the Earth But more of this Matter when I come to examine these Authors in particular and so I conclude this Chapter with this Axiom c. The Part of Fortune is the Lunar Horoscope and depends on the Sun and Moon for its Motion it moves through the Houses as the Moon doth through the Signs and no faster it is seldom in the Ecliptick and wholly uncapable of the Rapt Motion and for that Reason not to be directed Convers and whosoever understands the Part of Fortune other ways than thus suffers himself to be put upon and knows nothing of the Matter But I cannot pass by that Learned Stuff about the Parts of the Houses without taking some Notic● of th●● lest they should think I did
of Mars but from the 10th to the 20th is the Decanate of the Sun from the 20th to the End is the Decanate of Jupiter They have also their Du● Denarys or 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which is the Distance of the Sun or any other Star from a certain Part of Heaven of which I can see no great matter of use Then they have their Novenaries called by the Arabians Anaubarach and it is thus They divide a Sign into 9 parts each part consisting of 3 degrees 20 minutes then observe in which Novenary of the Sign or House the degree of the Planet is in and the first Novenary is governed by the Lord of the moveable Sign in that Triplicity and the second Novenary is given to the Lord of the next Sign to it and so forward throughout the nine Parts Example Let us suppose a Sign of the Fiery Triplicity in which Aries is the moveable and Mars Lord of it so that Mars governs the first part o● Novenary Venus the second Mercury the third the Moon the fourth the Sun the Fifth and so on till you come to the degree you seek by which means you find out the Lord of the Novenary where the degree of the Sign or House is that you seek after And when you have done all this what use it serves for I cannot tell it seems to me to be a great deal of Pains to little or no purpose and indeed so is the whole Chapter in my Judgment and so I leave it to your Opinion in general I have been the larger in this Chapter because of J. G.'s asserting People to die on the Evil Alfryda●ies and I suppose he will allow the Chronocrators also For which Reason I have been very plain as well as brief And indeed he and some others being ignorant of the true motion are forced to fly to such silly Shifts and Shams as these are for a Refuge when nothing else will do I therefore desire him or any of his Partakers That they would shew us how and in what Nativities these and such like Shams and Fooleries have been the Cause of Death And if they do not I must take it for granted That they only make use of the thing for a ●ham and know nothing of the Matter And if they produce any Nativities for Examples I do intreat them to give us the true estimate Time thereof CHAP. X. Of Transits and Eclipses in reference to Life and Death I Know by my Conversation among intelligent men in this L●arning That Transits are and have been esteemed dangerous and endued with a Power to Kill and that many men will rely on the Power of an ill Transit or two to judge this or that man did expire by and that there were no other Causes for Death but only that Transit that they shall alledge and think fit But I confess they seldom make use of this thing but in Nativities where the Persons are dead and they can find no Direction fit to be assigned for it and therefore in such Cases they have Recourse to Transits nor did I ever know any of that Opinion durst venture to predict a man's Death by a Transit nay though there were half a dozen bad Transits together they do not dare rely on them and say They will kill but that they have killed that I have often heard them say when the Work was over and Death had taken Possession Now if this should be true it is very strange that some ingenious man or other had not in all this Time licked this Doctrine into Shape and Form sufficient to have assisted the Artist in his Judgment on Death for it is certain if they do ever kill it is possible to foresee when they will and when they will not by a continual Observation thereof and one or two Experiments of this kind would mightily clear the Doubt and convince its Adversaries and prove the Point in Dispute against all Arguments whatsoever but to this Time all Volumes are silent in the Matter and their Authors and the Artists themselves are mute and destitute of Experiments of that kind i. e. of Death fairly predicted before hand by a Transit or Transits and nothing else The Truth is if we will but give our selves leave to consider How many violent and dangerous Transits a man pas●eth in Forty or fifty Years and not kill him it would be sufficient of it self to confront this Doctrine and convince its Favourites that there is nothing of Truth in the thing and wholly take off their Opinion of its Power And to this End and Purpose I will mention Two or three Examples and the first is of Charles II. who some of them say dyed by the Force of two or three Transits and nothing else i e. the Sun in Quartl●e to the Radical Places of Mars and the Moon Mars in Square to his own and to the Moon 's Radical Place for his Death If this should be true why did he not dye in September 1656. when the Sun Saturn and Mars were all in Conjunction upon his Horoscope and in Square to the Moon and to the Sun 's Radical Place Or in December 1660. when Saturn was in Opposition to the Moon 's Radical Place the Sun and Mars in Sagitary in Opposition to the Sun 's Radical Place and both in Square to the Ascendent Or in November 1672. when all the Hilegical Points were afflicted at once Saturn and Mars in Pis●cs in Square to the Midheaven and the Sun 's Radical Place and in Opposition to the Ascendent and the Sun in Opposition to the Moon 's Radical Place and in Square to the Part of Fortune and yet for all this he did not dye and I think he was not sick neither at that time as ever I heard These and twenty more such times he passed that were worse Transits than those they say he dyed upon But to put all out of doubt I can assure them That he had seven Directions and from them seven his Death was predicted some Years before he dyed The second Example is his Brother who I have heard them say had the Misfortune to lose three Kingdoms by an Eclipse of the Sun on the Sun 's radical Place and nothing else to assist it Now if you will but look back to the 14th of October 1650. he had an Eclipse of the Sun exactly in almost 2 degrees of Scorpio on his Radical Place and yet no Mischief to him then as I remember but what his Brothers and Sisters were all liable to In the Year 1660. April the 15th there was a great Eclipse of the Moon on his Radical Sun's place within 4 degrees and yet no Hurt to him not withstanding Saturn was there also But above all that of October 14th 1669. the Sun then was eclipsed on his Radical Place and that upon the very Node too which shews it must be a great and Central Eclipse and yet no Injury to him at that Time neither though
gives Power to the degrees that p●ss it this Gentlem●n had the Moon and Jupiter dir●cted to the Ascendent every Year afterward as long as he lived by the same Rule And you may as well say a Gown is a man because it covers him as say the degree is the Ascendent Besides by this Rule we have two Ascendents for if this degree is o●e you know we have another les● that we direct to when that is ●one up to the Cusp of the Twelfth House But enough of this Whim fit r●ther to be laughed than argued ou● of Practice The F●urth will requir● but little to be said to it for he makes the Midheaven to the Semisextile of Saturn give his D●ctoral Dignity with Saturn ad Partem Fortunae As to the Semi●●xtile of Saturn I think all men of Art will count it next to nothing and for Saturn to the Part of Fortune if it should be allowed I do not see any Reason it should give him Advantage but rather the contrary In a word these two are of no Force nor Power The Fifth hath little or nothing in it He says He was received Physician in Ordinary to the Bishop of Bu●●oigne who compelled him against his Will to the Study of Astrology He had now as he says the Sun to the Ascendent This is answered as the Third for it is no Direction nor is there any such Motion in Nature as you heard above But suppose we should allow it it is the Promittor that gives the Advantage If so what Reason is there for the Ascendent to give Pr●ferment for so it was at that time to him and also of study with the assistance of so great a man as that Bishop The Sixth seems to have some probability in it at a distance but upon a ne●rer approach you will find that empty like the rest For there is no such Direction in Nature as the Ascendent to the Square of a Planet in the Z●diack For at the time he says that Direction is compleat Saturn is bu● 63 degrees ●i●ant from the Ascendent and he ought to be 90 so that he wants 27 degrees of a compleat Squ●re So that you have here a Square within a Square a little Quartile and a great one In a word it was not the Ascendent to the Square but by true Motion to the Sextile of Saturn at that time Ark 33 degrees The Seventh is of the same piece with the last for now he says he had a violent and malignant Disease on the Ascendent to the Quartile of Saturn with Latitude This overthrows their old Doctrine of the Quartile always falling in the Ecliptick and therefore no Latitude And what himself takes notice of likewise in his Projection of the Rays that the Quartile always falls there And to be brief the Ascendent it self is never directed to any Ray with Latitude in that Point but the Body and Opposition of any Star The other Rays are made to the Ascendent from other parts of Heaven always with Latitude if the Star hath any Thus much for the Latitude as to the Aspect I spoke to it before to which I refer you The Eighth may be admitted well enough because the Sun is directed to the Sextile of Mars as he says and such a Direction may give such a Promotion too The Ninth seems likely to be true for the Midheaven to the Body of Mercury may give him such a Preferment as he then had which was Regius Prof●ssor of the Mathematicks But it is strange that Mercury should give such a thing as this and yet the Midheaven to the Body of Venus who is in the beginning of Pisces and in Trine of Mars should give nothing for he takes no notice of any effect of it which I am sure he would have done if any thing had suited to it on this Correction and I am sure it is more likely to advance him than the Body of Mercury by far The Tenth is the only Direction I am certain that he depends on for the Correction of his Nativity and that is The Midheaven to the Body of the Sun for at that time he says He had an Universal Fame almost throughout Europe And it is from that very Direction that I am certain his Nativity is false for had this been the true time of his Birth he had without all doubt dyed under the Influence of that Direction For in this Figure of his the Ascendent is certainly giver of Life and at that very time came to the Square of the Sun Quartile of the Moon Quartile of Jupiter Quartile of Saturn and Body of Mars and no Relief from any Rays to preserve Life And this Doctrine is built upon a Principle that seldom or never fails if the Rule is but observed carefully Now I am certain that Morinus did not understand Astrology to any perfection nor Ptolomy who he doth endeavour and p●etend so often to correct in divers Places of his Astrologia Gal●ca I am also certain that he had no fixt Principle to guide him or build upon only an Universal conceited Knowledge of it adapted to his own Fancy The Eleventh is to be allowed in his Doctrine and Correction to be a r●tional Direction But I am certain by the same Rule the Ascendent to the Square of the Sun did not kill That this is also false and if that Scheme had been true which he gives this Direction had never perfectly come up only so near as to speciticate the Disease he should dye by The Twelsth is certainly the most irrational thing that ever was asserted by an Artist where the Ascendent was Giver of Life To tell us That he sued for the Royal Reward for his finding the Longitude That he quarrelled with Bul●ialdus and with a poor man a Neighbour of his And for this he tells us he had the Midheaven to the Body of Saturn Can any man of R●ason believe it Ask my old Friend what he had on his mid-Mid-heaven to the Body of Satu●n in a Figure that the Ascendent is Hileg and he will tell you a Jail with a Gallows at the end of it In a Word this is no ways to be allowed it is too gross to be digested by any man of Skill or Reason The Thirteenth is of the same piece with the former for here he t●lls us he had a noble Pensi●n and a Gift from the King And for this he had Mars to the Opposition of the Sun and Jupit●r and the Part of Fortune to the Trine of the Mo●n without Latitude I will leave the first to any man's Consideration N●y to a Novice in Astrology Whether Mars to the Opposition of the Sun and Jupiter can give any Good or not And for the Part of Fortune to the T●ine of the M●on it sounds well but if examined there is as little in that as in the ●est fo● the Part of Fortune cannot be ●i●●ct●d in the Zodi●ck as they imagine because it is subj●ct to greater or lesser
Diur●al and N●cturnal Arks according to the M●on 's Declination and Latitude upon whom the Part of Fortune depends and for that reason is seldom or never in the Ecliptick But besides the Part of Fortune is not in 10 degrees of Taurus as he says but in the end of Aries for if you will consider the M●●n by her Latitude under that Pole is not 5 degrees past the Body of the Sun if so how can the Part of Fortune be 13 degrees from the Ascendent and the Moon and that near the Equator To be plain with you I do say The Part of Fortune is in the beginning of Taures But if what he sa●s should be allowed why did not the Part of Fortune to the Trines of Venus the Sun and Jupiter give something considerable as well as this Trine of the Moon I am sure they have more Power to do it than the Moon hath I have added a Fourteenth but that is the time of his Death and theref●●e you may be sure it is not his And the main Query will be What Direction he dyed on For it is reasonable to expect something ●●r that as well as for every th●ng else beforementioned and to satisfy my Reader ●ere is nothing can be pretended to in that case take this following account of all the Aphoetical places by Direction at that time but especiall of the Ascendent who is Hil●g and only to be taken notice of in that Case And therefore if you ple●se to direct it you will find it is advanced to the 20th degr●e of Cancer a place imbuted with no Malefick Be●ms ●ut past all that hath p●wer to kill N●y so much as the Lords of the Fourth ●nd Eig●●h too The Mi●●eaven is c●me to 26 degrees in P●sces and past all b●th good ●●d bad The Sun is by Direction i● 20 degr●es of ●●mini a●d past both the Squares of the M●on and S●●urn and under no ill Beams The Moon is got to 23 deg●●es of G●mini and ●ut o● the rea●h of all ●alignant Rays that are worth observing The P●●t of F●●tune is got also into 24 degrees of Cancer and p●rf●ctly free likewise as are all the ●●st and yet this poor Gen●leman had the hard Fortune to fall ●nd this without a Cause And therefor● if this should happen to be true in this N●●ivi●y it may p●ove so in 20 nay in 100 more And if so ●●rewel Astrology pray deliver it over to H●minga and Alex de Angelis to laugh at Lastly It may perhaps be expected seeing I have I think proved this Nativity false to give one that m●y seem true in my own Judgment which I believe would be no hard thing to have done had he been so fair to us as to have given the estimate time of his Birth But thus far you shall know my Opinion concerning the Correction of it It is most certain that either the Ascendent or Sun must be Hileg in this Scheme and which soever of them is so I believe the Sun will also prove the Abseiss●r Vitae If you will make the Ascendent Giver of Life th●n there will be 26 degrees of Pisces Ascending But if you make the Sun Aphaeta there will be between 15 and 25 degrees of Tau●us Ascending And this Dispute might be soon ended had we but the given time to guide us but I confess I should rather rely on Pisces Ascending considering what he writes of himself page 398. which is like Six Planets in the Twelfth House And so I leave this great Man's Nativity to your further Consideration The next Nativity I find published by Morine is that of Gustavus Adolphus King of Swedeland page 400. who was slain in the Battle of Lutzen November 6th 1632. fighting against Walstein the Imperial General And this he says was caused by the Midheaven directed to the Quartile of Saturn in the Zodiack and Body of Mars Yet in the Figure he gives us the Sun is in the Ascendent and most certainly Hileg but by a Figure of my Division of the Heavens the Sun is 18 Ecliptical degrees above the Cusp of the Second House and very near in the middle of the Ascendent and admits of no dispute The Figure follows set to his time but to my Division of the Heavens The Planets Places are Calculated by the Rudolphine Tables as Morinus says The only thing I contend with him here for is Why he should believe any man would credit his Assertion in this when in his own he lets the Midheaven pass the Body of Saturn and the Moon and gives him nothing but a Quarrel And in Francis de Bon he lets him pass the Midheaven to the Opposition of Saturn without any Injury to his Life and live several years after it and yet this brave fighting Prince must fall by it Nay and what 's worse against all Rule too for neither Midheaven nor Ascendent had any thing to do with Directions of Death because the Sun is solely Give● of Li●e and claims the other as his own Propriety Nor did the Midheaven to the Square of Saturn kill his Friend D. Ludovi Fronson pag. 614. So strange it seems to me That this Learned man should overlook Truth and not allow his Directions a Parity in their Effects and Operations in one as well as the other without Rules of Exce●tion which in all such general Cases ought to be given if any be I wonder they did not depend on the Midheaven to the Body of Mars for Death because that is a Direction not to be opposed in point of Motion there being indeed such a Direction But to tell us of the Midheaven to the Square of Saturn when in truth there is no such Direction in Motion nor Nature at that time for the Midh●aven to the Square of Saturn did not come up till after 60 Years of Age is such an Imposition on our Unstanding that all intelligible men will hiss as it And how this great man should suffer hi● Reason to be catcht by Opinion and Credulity I do indeed wonder especially in a thing so plain as this is contrary to his Darling the Mathematicks for by Mathematical measure it is not a Square or Q●adrate contrary to Rule and the best Authority And to be plain the Sun is Hileg and none else can be directed for Death nor can there be any more than one Hileg in any one Nativity contrary to Experience Nay in a Word it is cont●●ry to all but fond Opinion And now pray give me leave to make this bold offer in general I do Challenge any man to sh●w me where the Ascendent or Midheaven by Direction has been the Cause of Death when either Sun or M●on were givers of Life And I am sure no man will undertake that Work but he that hath no Principles to build on in his Study of this ●cience and such a one was this Learned Author whose Labours are now the Subject of this present Discourse and I am certain as long as I
not true i. e. that the Moon is Aphaeta which by his good favour she is not for all her being in the Tenth And Secondly he tells us a thi●g not a greeable to Rule for he says He d●ed on the M●●n to her own Square Which cannot possibly be because Jupiter beholds the Place of Direction with his Trine and to assert this is directly against Ptolomy's Rule and my own Experience and besides if the Moon were Hileg and directed to her own Square as in this Example it could not kill But to be plain with you I doubt the Truth of the Figure as to time a●d my reason is this Let which of the two Luminaries you please be Aphaeta I see no reason why he should not dye on the Directions of either to the Body of Mars and Opposition of Saturn and this in a violent part of Heaven but it is next to impossible he should escape those Directions if the Moon were Hileg because they came up late even at 60 and this with the Caput Medusae a violent Star And therefore I will not so much as imagine a Figure that may hit the Time of his Death because I believe he was abused by having a false Time given him and why may not he as well be deceived by a false time given him as to print a false time for his own Birth which I am sure that is and therefore if I were to project a Figure for this Great man's Birth it must be one where neither the Sun nor Moon is Hileg The next we meet with is that of MARY Queen of POLAND she was a French woman and was married to Uladislaus King of Poland the 5th of November 1645. and he dying soon after his Brother Casimire was chosen King and afterward married his Widow May the Thirtieth 1649. So that she was twice married and this to Two Kings in the space of Four Years And the Nativity he gives us for this Queen 's true one is as followeth set to his Time but by my Table of Houses and the Planets places from the Rudolphine Tables as he says Estimate Time 3 minutes past 8 manè I have printed this Scheme because it is a remarkable Nativity and he hath given the estimate time of it also and will really admit of a Trial of Skill in the management of which I will be very just and fair and do both the Art and this Learned Author Right And the Accidents he gives are these following Aged 15 years and 2 months Octob. 12th 1626. she fell into a desperate Disease and was near Death the Ascendent then to the Square of the Moon with Latitude Aged 18 years Anno 1629. she was courted by the Duke of Orleans but the Marriage was prevented by Cardinal Richelie● and the Queen Mother Mary de Medicis Ascendent then to the Sextile of Jupiter Aged 34 years and 2 months she married Uladislaus the Fourth King of Poland the Midheaven then to the Body of Venus Aged 37 years and 9 months May 30th 1649. she was then married to Casimir the next King of Poland She had then Mercury and Jupiter in Conjunction directed to the Body of Mars Lord of the Seventh as he says And these Four Accidents are my further Business to examine Morinus hath taken the Square of the Moon in Libra with 4 Degrees of North Latitude and for what reason I cannot tell for the Moon hath not full out 2 Degrees South where she is in Capricorn but let his Reason be what it will for so doing he perfectly overthrows their old imaginary Rule that the Sq●●re always falls in the Zodiack by this Example of his It is plain that every Aspect oweth its being to the Body it proceeds from and therefore if you will allow the Aspect Latitude you can allow it no more than the Body hath it is produced by If you do allow it more or less than that Body hath you make the Aspect Challenge a Latitude proper to it self which to this day was totally unknown to all Pretenders But perhaps you will say The thing seems very rational because he allows the Square what Latitude the Moon hath in that place when she comes thither where it falleth in the Ecliptick It is true he doth so but what is that to the true Motion And how will he demonstrate that the Moon is in exact Square to the Ascendent more by taking of 4 Degrees than if he had taken but 2 Degrees or none at all in that Direction for the meaning of the Direction is That the Moon is in exact Square to that Angle when that Direction is finished which he nor no man can prove by that method of directing for the Ascendent comes to the Square of the Moon when the Fourth House comes to her Body and I know no other Square nor he neither but what is Imaginary And if so Pray what do the 4 Degrees of Latitude in Libra signify But why Four Degrees to be taken contrary to the Rule of the Square falling in the Ecliptick and exceeding the Moons Latitude where she is two Degrees Why truly for no other reason but to help out at a dead lift for he could by no means make the Mid-heaven to the Body of Venus for her M●rriage and the Ascendent to the Square of the Moon for her Sickness agree for the Ascendent to the Square of the Moon in the Ecliptick would have had 17 Degrees 49 Minutes Ark and that would not do f●r his Ark was to be but 14 Degrees 56 Minutes and by taking the Square of the M●on with 4 Degrees of Latitude hit the thing to a hair And that is the truth of the whole matter and by this Case of Necessity came this curious Notion into practice and to s●y the truth I find it no where used throughout his whole Treatise but in this particular Case And when it is fully examined I think really no body can believe it As to the Second Accident which he attributes to the Ascendent to the Sextile of Jupiter if I should allow him that I do not think it will do him any S●●vice at all for the Sextile of Jupiter cannot give such a Courtship and such great Enemies to prevent its Effect at the same time there must be some malicious Beams to raise those Adversaries as you may see hereafter But in short that Direction came up at Six or Seven years of Age. The Third Accident and Direction no man can deny could he make the Square of the Moon to the Ascendent fairly agree with it to give her Sickness at 15 years of Age which you see he could not do but was constrained to make a Rule on purpose contrary to true Motion and his own Practice before And for that Reason I have justly made these Objections to his Operations in this Nativity which he says is most exactly rectified The Fourth Accident which was her Second Marriage at the Age of 37 years and 9 months he says was
the Square of the Sun kill'd him is such a rugged sort of a Doctrine not like the Polite Morinus in his other Learning and therefore I cannot allow the former to be the cause of his Grandeur because the latter I am sure is false and by my Correction he was preferred on the Moon to the Trine of Mars in Zodiaco His Marriage need make no Controversy for it was about a year after his Preferment and therefore the same Directions may serve But if you will have a Direction for it take the Midheaven to the Body of the Sun Morinus and I do both agree on the cause of his being turn'd out of his Places and the Court favour for it was most certainly on the Sun to the Square of Mars in Zodiaco But that about his death in 1642. December the 8th I can by no means comply with when he says the Ascendent to the Square of the Sun ●ill'd him First it is not possible to do it for when both the Luminaries are above the Earth in Aphaetical places the Ascendent cannot kill though it were directed to 20 Male●ick Directions at once And furthermore the Ascendent to the true Square of the Sun came up at about 42 Years of Age. Secondly It is not like an Artist to say so but like a Mountebank in Astrology and whensoever I hear any man render such a reason as this is for death let him be never so famous an Artist I am sure he knows but little of the thing he pretends to and I can mumble him at my pleasure Nay I will go further with you There is not a man in England that follows Morine's Method that dares venture his Name in Publick to a Prediction of this kind and I dare venture a Wager Morinus was not positive that this Direction kill'd him or would do it till he was in his Grave I say it is not like an Artist for every man that understands his Profession will build his skill on such Principles that are agreeable one to another and will seldom fail if but carefully observed and managed In this Nativity both the Luminaries are in Aphae●ical places but the Sun claims the power of Hileg as his due and yet this Learned man tells us he died on the Ascendent to the Square of the Sun which notion tells us that he did not build upon a fixt Principle For in Hemmenga's Franciscus de Bonne's and his own Nativity that Direction did not kill nor doth he take any notice of it to do any harm then pray What must the considerate Reader think of it in this Case Why truly he must think it is a point strain'd not to say any worse of it Now to sum up all I do say he died on the Sun to the Mundane parallel of the Moon and she radically imbuted by the Rays of Mars by being in a Mundane parallel with him the Moon to the Square of Saturn in Mundo the Moon to the Square of Mars in Zodiaco and the Sun to the Square of Mars in Mundo and then the Calculation stands thus   d m y mon   Luna ad △ ♂ in Zodiaco 36 14 40 6 1617 M. C. ad Corpus ☉ 38 00 42 2 1618 Luna ad parall ♃ Mundo d. d. 42 2 46 4 1623 Sol ad □ ♂ in Zodiaco 45 5 49 7 1626 Luna ad □ prob●●n 60 00 65 1 1641 Sol ad parall ☽ Mundo d. d. 60 26 65 5 1641 Luna ad □ ♄ in Mundo d. d. 63 00 68 0   Luna ad □ ♂ in Zodiaco 64 51       ☉ ad □ ♂ in Mundo d. d. 67 34       At the time of Death the Sun who is Hileg is arrived by hi● Directional Motion to the 4th degree of Scorpio and is there void of all relief that can succour much less save life And the Moon at the same time directed to her own Square and this followed immediately by a Mund●ne quare of Saturn as you may see by the Table And these Directions I take to be very rational Causes for such an Effect as followed and such Causes that I or any man else may venture his reputation upon and come off ●●ch Credit and all this is done by a Figure that doth not ●●●ser from M●rinus any more than one degree and a few minutes in the Ascendent and a little more than two in the ●●●heaven His Time is at 19 minut●s past 9 in the Morning and mine 〈◊〉 at 28 minutes pa●t 9 mane so that we differ in time but 9 minutes which may be allowed and I believe will too by my rankest An●agonist and the right Ascention of my Midheaven is 122. 20. and that will lead you to all the rest of the Figure Object But perhaps it may be Objected That my Direction of the Sun to the Mundane parallel of the Moon falls short almost a whole Year of the time of his death For the Direction gives but 65 and 5 months and he lived till he was 66 and 3 months Answer Morinus tells you That his Disease began the Year before and was a double Tertian which afterward did change to a Quartan which is naturally seen in that Direction of the Moon to Saturn A Quartan you know is a Chronick Disease and so his was for it held him a year almost and besides if you understand the Directions they kill certain but not quick as Saturn doth naturally shew in all cases where he is concerned and after all this is said the time is so near the truth that if you will but allow an alteration of almost one minute sooner it will hit the time exactly And for all those that are captiously concerned in this point and have an ill Opinion of it I desire them to oblige the World with something of their own better done than this is and the main thing I desire is to see it I am now come to the last of his Nativities and that is the Figure and Birth of Charles Condren whom Morine calls his Pater Beatus He was a Jesuit and General of that Order in France He was born the 16 of December at 39 minutes past 6 of the Clock in the morning 1588. Latitude of 49. the Planets from the Rudolph Tables the Figure followeth Anno 1608. he resolved to lead a Religious Life at which time Jupiter Lord of the Ascendent was directed to the Body of Mars at another time he would have said that should give imprisonment because Mars is Lord of the Twelfth and the mid-Mid-heaven to the Sextile of the Sun As to this last Direction it did not come up till almost 40. and for the first it was more likely to give Debauchery than Piety But the true Direction I do believe was the prospect he had of some fat Church Preferment Anno 1612. he entered into Holy Orders as they call it and this Devotion saith Morine was raised by the Sun directed to the Trine of Jupiter but yet he
question whether we ought not to divide the Revolution of a Nativity into 4 Quarters as we do that of the Year for Mund●ne Affairs And because he would be exact he also considers the Revolutions of the Moon gives Rules for judging and tells you what significant Effects they had in his own Nativity A man would have thought one of his Learning and Parts might have been better employ'd than to write so largely of such useless things or if you please of things of such little use as what you have heard The greatest and the best Authority we have doth only advise us to consider Revolutions to see what Transits and Ingresses there are and how the Radical Prorogators are affected by th good or afflicted by the bad Stars as in these words Afflictis enim Locis in Annorum ●xitu Stellis Inficientibus praecipu● loca mortem certam Perhaps there may be many read these words that may not understand them though good Proficients in Grammar and the Latin Tongue but that is not my fault It hath been the Knavery or Foolery of Professors in all Sciences to load each art with abundance of useless things to make themselves seem the more learned in their Profession Thus you may observe that Crollius tells us there were originally but four Diseases and yet a Physician a few years since told us in print that there were 600 Diseases belonging to the Eyes So extravagantly numerous they have multiplied our Mischiefs What reason have we to believe that the Degree Ascending and by Consequence all the other Houses have any virtue or force in them to influence that years Affairs the Revolution is set for And what is more absurd and foolish Why should we cheat our selves to think that the Directions to the Mi●heaven Ascendent Sun and Moon in a Revolution have an● more force and power in them than if you set a figure at Random every quarter of that year Let two men but manage a Nativity and the one take the Sun Calculated from Street and another from Wi●g in some parts of the year they will differ 5 minutes in motion which is no less than two hours in time and when these two men come to set the Revolutional Figures what a fine confusion shall we have no less than two hours in time and do you think that will not give a great alteration in the Ascendent and mid-Mid-heaven Then how do you think the Directions of the Five Hilegi●ck Points will agree in these two men's operations and what a Jargon here will be He that would be Master of this nonsensical stuff let him read Coley's Key filed bigger and there he may see these Foo'eries in their excellence especially page 710 713 714. things I am sure he knows nothing of only he imagined there might be some easy people would swallow the Gudgeon and believe his most ingenious Invention of no use but to spend time and create trouble but I shall talk with him another time this is only by the way What Reason have we to believe That the Sun's Return gives us a title to any Ascendent or Midheaven but that of the Radix Perhaps you will say You have found by Experience a great deal of truth in them by corresponding to the Fate and Fortune of the Year Why yes that may be and yet when that is allowed there is nothing in it And I am certain you will find as much to say to a Figure set to this instant for the Fate of the present Year as to the most exact Revolutional Figure you ever set in your days Transits and Ingresses excepted And any man may see this is true by the great noise Morinus makes with his Lunar Revolutions There is no Figure you can set at any time but you may fancy it to be a Revolutional and its Directions and Positions shall do full as well as your exact Revolution shall those things beforementioned excepted for among all those Directions you pretend to in a Revolution there is not one of them hath any effect but as a good or bad Transit or Return happens at the same time you say your Direction commenceth and it is that gives the Effect and not the Direction you imagine But if you do but conceit it gives what you say it doth it is full as well as if it did do it really Nay some are grown so ripe in this practice that they are able to predict Death from a single Revolution ut ipsi dicunt as I can prove from their own words But because Morinus is my subject therefore I must keep to my Text and pray hear what he says Praedixi says he Pluribus Amicis ex hac Revolutione Mortem pag. 614. speaking concerning Cardinal Richelieu If Morinus knew there was a Killing Direction he might be bold in the Point if so why doth he say the Revolution kill'd him For let the Revolution be good or bad if it is a mortal Direction he certainly dies but if there is no Direction I am sure and certain a Revolution how bad soever cannot kill But you hear what he says though I must confess I think it no more but a French flourish As to both the N●tivities of Richeli●u and Tronson the Directions brought to prove their Deaths are so idle and frivolous that I can by no means allow them and therefore they must dye on the Influx of the Revolutions which you may believe if you please for I do not He tells us pag. 628. That by the p●esence of three Planets in the Third House of a Revolution which House he says hath signification of Religion they gave Charles Condren a reselution to lead a Religious life and yet pag. 650. he says It was from the M. C. to the ⚹ ☉ and Jupiter directed to the Body of Mars that gave him that Resolution I cannot understand this man's method and doctrine I would fain have him tell me in plain words Whether he lays the stress of the business on the Revolution or on the Direction and which he makes subordinate for there can be but one principal cause in this and most other cases If you please to look into page 632. you will see what he says on the Revolution of this man's Death and when you have read them over I really think you cannot chuse but smile at them to see what a crowd of Stuff he doth enumerate as causes of his Death but it was when he was in his Grave and you may be certain he passed many such Revolutions and perhaps worse too in his Life-time that did not kill But I will leave it to the Judgment of others and satisfie my self with these Remarks on his Doctrine and Principles and sum up this Paragraph and this Second part also with my Opinion of Revolutions and what ought to be done therein Revolutions are the times when the Sun comes to the same degree and minute he was in at Birth in which case you need not be so very
of Pope Urban the Seventh who was made Captain General of Christ's Church Pope I mean the 15th of September 1590 and dyed within twelve days afterward H● was born the 4th of August at 22 minutes past 7 of the Clock in the Morning 1521. Lat. 42. and ♂ ☉ ♀ ☿ ☽ are Calculated by the Caroline Tables as you see ♄ 11 15 ♒ Latitude 0 56 S. ♃ 13 36 ♐ 0 35 N. ♂ 7 55 ♎ 0 6 N. ♀ 20 14 ♌ 5 0 S. ☿ 0 10 ♍ 1 8 N. ☽ 11 52 ♍ 2 56 N. ☉ 20 35 ♌   ☊ 17 32 ♎   The right Ascention of the Midheaven is 72 57 and they tell you that the Midheaven to the Trine of Jupiter gave him his Preferment and the Ascendent to the Square of Saturn gave his Death But how they will manage the Stars to make it out remains a mystery to me For he was chosen Pope the 15th of September sickned the 17th and dyed the 28 of the same Month 1590. being then 69 Years of Age and almost two Months Now consider the Midheaven to the Trine of Jupiter in Zodiaco is by Direction Ark 63 8. and the Ascendent to the Square of Saturn is Ark 69 53. the difference is almost 7 degrees then how could these two come together and you see the preferment and death fell out both in a Month and therefore there must be some other cause for both these Accidents than what is here asserted in their own way and to be further plain and open with you in the point the Ascendent to the Square of Saturn true came up 6 or 7 years before his death and the Midheaven ad Trine Jupiter a long time after it Now upon the result of all I am of the opinion that the Midheaven to the Body of Venus gave him his Preferment and the Ascendent to the Square of the Sun and semiquadrate of Mars gave his death which came all up at a time and 't is possible there might be a little poison in the way as he says there was a suspicion of for Venus who is concern'd in his Death as well as in his Preferment is indeed imbuted with the Rays of Saturn and may be justly suspected But if this is allowed we must make an alteration in the Figure of about 15 Minutes in time which is no great matter in the thing according to their Rules and Practice Object But perhaps some may say Why did not the Rays of Venus save seeing you tell us they do even by their Squares and Oppositions Answ. 'T is true I do assert it and say the Rule will hold but in this case she is excepted by the Rule because she is under the Sun-beams and therefore cannot The next I have pitched upon is the Nativity he gives us for Ascanius Cardinalis Columna's time of Birth and it is a pretty Remarkable one both for Arguments of Greatness and Directions for Death as you may see by the Figure that followeth set to his time but my Division of the Heavens This is indeed a very good Position for Preferment for here we find Jupiter on the Ascendent the Sun in it in his Exaltation the Moon strong in Trine to the Ascendent Mars who hath dignities in the Tenth is in Sextile to the Moon and in Trine to the Midheaven Venus is in her Exaltation and in a Zodiacal parallel with Jupiter Sure this man could not want friends in his time nor indeed did he for you see he was made a Cardinal early and this by the Intercession of the King of Spain and had Nature been so kind to have prolong'd his days he had certainly obtained the Infallible Chair and been called his Holiness but we have but two Accidents to correct by and they are these following Aged 26 years and almost 10 months he was made Cardinal and as Argol says on the Midheaven to the Square of the Sun and the Part of Fortune to the Body of the Moon Aged 48 years one month and 14 days Anno 1608. May 17. he dyed of a Fever and a Cholerick Disease he had then says Argol the Ascendent to the Bull 's Eye As to the First of these Directions it seems so improbable to suit to the Accident of Preferment that no body I think can in reason allow it For if he had been under two or three good Directions at that time the Midheaven to the Square of the Sun would have knockt it all dead and have made it ineffectual for the Midheaven to the Square of the Sun creates Foes not Friends and therefore I am of opinion some other reason must be given for that Preferment than those laid down by our Author As to his death and the reason given for it I cannot imagine Argol himself thought it would be believed and I dare say my Reader will be of my opinion when he hears what I have to say in the case The Horoscope meets the Bull 's Eye in the 14th degree of Gemini with Latitude and I hope he doth not intend it without if he doth the Error is the greater for there is no such Direction so that he lets the Ascendent pass by the body of Mars Lord of the Eighth near the Pleiades After that the body of Saturn in a violent part of Heaven And a little after that to the Square of Venus out of the Twelfth and after these three Directions he kills him with this silly foolish thing not to be imagined by any Artist that hath had either Reading or Experience To pass the bodies of both the Maleficks nearly in Conjunction and let him dye on the Direction to a fixed Star that hath at least 5 degrees of Latitude Can you imagine Reader that Mars or Saturn or both together had not as much power to kill as the Bull 's Eye Or can you give me any reason why Saturn or Mars should not kill If you can I am sure you know much more of Astrology than I am Master of provided the reason you give will hold in any other Nativity where the same Directions or either of them happen But that which makes the thing more improbable is That the Sun is in the Ascendent and Giver of Life And though I know that the Ascendent to the bodies of Mars and Saturn could not kill yet the stress of my Argument lieth in this That if it was possible or probable for the Bull 's Eye to kill Why should not the bodies of Saturn and Mars do it more effectually before These things considered are sufficient to convince any doubting Reader that this is not a true Nativity nor can I judge what Scheme may be because it is not the faculty of these kind of Astrologers to give us the Estimate time with the Correct as they call it but if the time should be near this I think it is reasonable to conclude That the Sun to the Mundane parallel of Mars followed by the Mundane parallel of Saturn is a very suitable
of Parma was born the 28th of April at 17 minutes past 3 manè 1612. sub Polo 48. This Prince dyed September the 11th anno 1646. being very fat and corpulent And it was his Misfortune to dye on the Ascendent directed to the Pleiades notwithstanding the Moon is Hileg Here you may see he hath broken his own Rule for he kills the Duke of Mantua just now mentioned with the Ascendent to the Body of the Sun and yet here you see it hath not Power to kill the Duke of Parma Do you think this is not very fine Astrology and fit to be believed Yes certainly by those that have forfeited their Reason and by no body else See the Scheme Thus you see the wonderful Ascendent doth every thing and so it will do till some witty Heliocentrick man can contrive a Scheme of Heaven without a Horoscope and then they will be all at a loss if not undone I really think among all the Nativities this Author hath given us which are 117 he makes at least three fourths of them dye on Directions to the Ascendent Why should we not as well believe the Sun to the Square of Mars Lord of the Eighth in Conjunction with Saturn was as likely to kill him as the Ascendent to the Pleiad●s I must needs say it seems to me one of the most improbable Directions to give Death that ever ● heard assigned by so learned a man as our Author was to let him outlive the Sun to the Square of Mars and Saturn and the Ascendent to the Body of Mercury and the Sun and every one of them Lords of obscure Houses and at last kill him with a little paltry Star of the Third Magnitude methinks it is below a Philosopher to give such a Reason and too contemptible a thing for a Prince to sall by Again can any man believe this to be his true Nativity when he tells us of his Corpulency and Fatness and yet placeth Mars and Saturn on the Ascendent It is not likely they should make a man corpulent they commonly make peevish morose uneasy people and I believe you will conclude with me That they are seldom fat and I think I may say never to excess Upon the whole matter I am certain this Scheme is not true nor am I able to say what Figure is true but with a little alteration I think the Moon being Hileg comes to the mundane Parallel of the Sun and might kill being succeeded by the Squares of Saturn and Mars in the Zodiack but if the Ascendent by Direction could have killed at any time he had never outliv'd the Body of the Sun Argoll says Bernardus Duke of Veimar was born August the 16th 8 min. past 10 of the Clock before Noon 1604. sub Polo 51. as you may see by the Scheme it self This Prince going from Basil to a Fortress not far distant on the 15th day of July 1639. perceived himself to be ill and therefore hastned to Naumburg where he died on the 18th of the same month and being opened the Physicians found his Liver and Spleen hard and his Lungs corrupted which they attributed to his constant Labour of Body and Anxiety of Mind For his Death Argol says he had the Ascendent directed to the Body of Mars and yet both Sun and Moon in Aphetical places Thus you see according to Custom he was sent out of the world by the power of the Ascendent which had no power at all to kill if you will know the truth of it You may be certain the Time was not given to 8 minutes but either at 10 or half an hour after it and that he did alter the time to make the Ascendent come to the Body of Mars for his Death And you may be sure that this was done after he was in his Grave for if the Prediction for his Death had been made while he was living they would have been in a sad confusion what to have judged able and willing to kill him for there are divers Candidates stand fair for the Election according to their Rules as you may see by examining the Scheme Why should not the Sun to the Square of Saturn and Jupiter or the Ascendent to the Opposition of the Moon or the Moon to the Square of the Sun in the Eighth House or to the Opposition of Saturn there also I say Why should not some of these have been as likely to kill as the Ascendent to the Body of Mars Nay I can assure you if the Ascendent to that Direction had power to take away Life he had never lived so long for the Opposition of the Moon had done the business 7 years before In the next place consider how many he lets out live the Ascendent to the Body of Saturn and Mars and not kill this you may see in the Nativities of Sixtus Quintus Urban VII Urban VIII Clement VIII all Popes but in the last of them it was the Opposition of Mars which I do esteem equally violent with the Body Nay in that of Cardinal Columna he had the Ascendent to the Bodies of Saturn and Mars together almost and yet both their Force had not power to kill him What do you think of these things Was not this Duke 's a very hard Case to be sent out of the world by that which would kill no body else Let not this be told to the Unbelievers lest they laugh you to scorn and set your Stars in derision But perhaps you will now ask me What I think killed him since I refuse to believe what he says did it And I care not much if I comply with your expectations though I dare not be positive because I know not the estimate time but believe it to be later than this printed and the Right Ascention of the Midheaven in my Correction is 121 degrees 41 minutes and the Sun beyond all doubt giver of Life and so he would be if the Time were an hour sooner or 3 hours later and therefore I will endeavour to correct according to my Sentiments and Opinion and leave other men to the Enjoyment of their own desiring them to make me happy in the sight of a better Correction than I give them The Directions that I conclude kill'd him were the Sun directed to the Mundane Parallel of Mercury Direct and Convers and this followed by the Mundane Square of Saturn and I really think that these Directions are both suitable and probable to produce such Distempers whereof this Duke dyed I am sure more likely than the Body of Mars by far and the Operations for them are thus The distance of Mercury from the Tenth House is 6 degrees 22 minutes the distance of the Sun 24 degrees 5 minutes the proportional distance to be added to Mercury's distance is 25 degrees 28 minutes which gives the Ark of Direction of the Sun to the Parallel of Mercury d. d. 31 degrees 50 minutes which turned into time gives almost 35 years and so long this
in the Nativity of Cardinal Farnesius before going the Sextile of Saturn alone did the business Thirdly Why did not the Ascendent to the Antiscion of the Moon Lady of the Eighth kill here as well as the Ascendent to the Antiscion of Saturn in Cardinal Farnesius's Case or to the Antiscion of Mars as in Cardinal Salviatus Federicus Feltrius Prince of Urbine Vitellius Archbishop of Urbine Cardinal Crescentius Laurentius Mancinus with others Or to the Antiscion of the Sun as in Cardinal Sabellus with divers others too tedious to name For in my opinion if the Antiscions can do in one they should by the same Rule have the like effect in another which you see he doth not let them have and so I present you with the Scheme of his Birth I do not deny but that the Direction mentioned by Argol for his being made Cardinal is proper enough if it were true for no man can deny the Midheaven to the Trine of the Sun to be a Direction likely to give a man Preferment even to the highest degree But instead of this he had at that time the Midheaven to the Trine of Mercury who was in the Radix in a Zodiacal parallel with Jupiter and this Direction came up exactly at the same time as any one may try if they please whose Ark is 51 degrees 36 minutes which turn'd into time gives 55 years and almost six months As to his death it was not the Ascendent to the Trine of Mars but the Moon Hileg to the parallel of Saturn Motu Rapto to the parallel of Saturn in Zodiaco and to the body of Mars Motu Converso and this I do perform by his own Figure altering only some few minutes in the right Ascension of the mid-Mid-heaven but I differ with him 43 minutes in the Moon 's place because I find her so by the Caroline Tables and with these alterations I do perform the operations for these Directions with a great deal of ease thus The R. A. of the Midheaven is 179 54. the R. A. of the Moon is 259. 51. which gives the distance of the Moon from the Midheaven 79. 57. The part proportional to be substracted from the Moon 's primary distance is 17. 27. which leaves the Ark of Direction 62 degrees 30 minutes This turn'd into Time gives 66 years and almost Nine months The next is the Moon to the Zodiacal parallel of Saturn and this is thus performed The Pole of the Moon is 40 and her oblique Ascension under that Pole 277. 44. and she meets the parallel of Saturn's Declination in 27 degrees of Aquary whose oblique Ascension under the Moon 's Pole is 277. 44. which gives the Ark of Direction 64 40. The other is the Moon by Converse motion to the body of Mars thus The oblique Ascension of Mars under the Pole 9 is 196. 37. The oblique Ascension of the Moon 263. 12. The Ark of Direction 66. 35. But he that would work it with more exactness ought to take Mars his distance and the Moon 's and with the Horary Times or semi-diurnal Arks work to find out the Fourth number which must be substracted from the Moon 's primary distance The way is thus If the Horary Times of Mars gives his distance what shall the Horary Times of the Moon give And that brings out the● fourth number which compleats your work And thus you may see them in order as followeth   d. m. y. m.   Medium Coeli ad △ ☿ 51 36 55 5 1627 made Cardinal ☽ ad paral ♄ M●t. Rapt 62 30 66 9 1638. dyed ☽ ad paral ♄ in Zodiaco 64 40       ☽ ad ● ♂ Motu Converso 66 35       Cardinal Gypsius says Argol was born the 14th of October at 50 minutes past two Afternoon 1564. sub Lat. 44. and he makes him 28 degrees of Aquary Ascending with 14 degrees of Sagitary on the Midheaven This man had passed through all degrees of Preferment of the Church from the lowest to the highest except Pope and was at last made Cardinal the 19th of January 1626 on the Midheaven ad Trine of Venus But at last he dyed on the 6th of April on the Ascendent directed to the Dragon's tail having been about twenty days sick of a Diarrhea which Argol says is naturally presaged by the Cauda with other effects caused by the Terms and Trine of Mars following it This is a bold daring Touch you see for all those improbable Directions that Argol hath ventured at before are nothing to this and I am sure that whosoever can believe this Direction hath power to kill can believe any thing nor will there be any impossibility that his Faith cannot swallow It is strange and seems sornething improbable to me that the Dragon's tail which is but an imaginary point should afford such strange effects as they father upon it For if you consider it is a moveable point and hath no Light nor Beams and for that reason how it should have such influence as this I cannot apprehend but when you have considered the Nativity that followeth this you will cease to wonder here and remove your admiration thither because he kills him with the Dragon's head Just such a Direction as this doth H●mminga make a noise with in page 90 of his Treatise against Astrology and that is the Ascendent to its own square And ●erhaps it may serve well enough too with such Astrologers as 〈◊〉 who like some others undertook to write against the Art and yet knew very little more than the name of it only But to be short with you these and such kind of Directions as these are serve only for Loop-holes and Back-doors to creep out at when they are constrain'd to assign some reason or other to the Reader or Antagonist for such or such an accident But suppose I should allow this Direction to be good which I do not pray why did not the Ascendent to the Opposition of Venus kill because she is Lady of the Eighth But I am sure they can have no excuse in the case why the Ascendent to the Square of Saturn and the Moon should not kill and this the rather because Saturn hath Dignities in the Eighth House which makes the case more certainly mortal Nay the Horoscope also passed the oppositions of Mars the Sun and Mercury and yet none of these could kill him till the Dragon's tail came and after all the hard Usage by these rugged Stars to no purpose it was very unkind of the Dragon's tail to come behind him and like a Footpad knock him down cowardly and yet when this is done had the Ca●da known he had been a Clergyman he had certainly had better quarter for Jupiter's sake It is plain to me that this Native could not dye on the Ascendent to the Dragon's tail and therefore we must endeavour to find out something more rational and agreeable to Rule and also more probable to be believed by men of
about 22 degrees and a half in Taurus with 3 d●g 57 min. South Latitude and after these in 24 of Taurus the Trine of the Snn. All which are Arguments of death far more probable than the Ascendent to the Square of Mars But perhaps some Sceptick or other may question me for bringing in the Moon to the Trine of the Sun as an Argument of death which they tell you will save because he is fons Lucis fons Vitae And if you please you will find him as certainly fons mortis too but I have very good Authority besides Experience to confirm me in this Doctrine Perhaps I may be also asked why the Moon to the Body of Saturn Lord of the Eighth did not kill That I confess is a Question to be asked and I am sure not one in Forty of the Pretenders to Astrology can Answer it And I can give them 20 Examples where the same thing hath happened in other Nativities and did not kill likewise Nay I will go further with you I believe it scarce gave him any sickness which perhaps you will say is mighty strange indeed but if the Rules I practice by are true it could not give any sickness remarkable but by no means death Thus you see it is not so easy a thing to perform the Directions in a Nativity as our Common Nativity-makers tell you it is when they say to use their own Language I will run down your directions for you Alas there are many motions to be considered and in many cases a Speculum cannot help you And a Nativity is to be well examined and considered before Judgment on any Directions but especially those of Death for there is not one in 40 dies on a single Direction and that made the Learned Cardan say seg 1. Apho. 33 Manifestum est igitur Astrologiam Constare ex scientia motuum exquisita Naturali Philosophia quorum neutrum cum plerique habeant utrumque ante haec nem● nil mirum est Infamiam arti praedecess●res nostros Addidisse Apho 34 est igitur Astrologia ut pulc●errima sic laboriosissima difficilima Octavianus Vestrius was born the 26 day of August 21 hours P. M. 1576 at Rome as our Author hath given us among the rest of his Nativities This noble Roman says Argol was one of the Pope's Bed-chamber and died on the Sun Apheta to the Body of the Moon in the terms of Mars and Square of Mercury May the 1 st 1626 but how this can be is a mystery to me for he makes Mercury to be in 26 degrees of Leo in exact Sextile to the Moon though Leovitius makes him to be in 1 d. 38 m. of Virgo that day at Noon and how the Sun can come to the Square of Mecury and Body of the Moon together I leave to you to judge But can any Astrologer that hath his senses about him imagine that the Sun could pass the Square of Mars and Sextile of Saturn and kill him on the body of the Moon and Sextile of ☿ For though Saturn's Sextile of it self hath not power to kill yet it increaseth the mischief that Mars's Square stirs up and this the rather because Radically Saturn is in Square to the Sun who as Argol truly says is Giver of Life Nay I dare swear if his Nativity was known before he dyed not a man of them I am sure would then believe that he could outlive the Sun to the Square of Mars and dye on the body of the Moon The Scheme followeth In the Figure Argol prints he makes 118 degrees 20 minutes the R. A. of the Midheaven and you see mine is 120 and 43 but a small difference if you well consider it not three degrees in the Midheaven To this time he hath the Sun directed to the Mundane Parallel of Mars d. d. thus The distance of the Sun from the Midheaven is 44 degrees 6 minutes His semidiurnal Ark is 95 42 the primary distance of Mars from the fourth is 7 degrees 28 minutes which substracted from his Secundary distance 52 degrees 59 minutes leaves the Ark of Direction of the Sun to the Mundane Parallel of Mars Direct 45 degrees 31 minutes which turn'd into time gives 49 years and 8 months And this is followed by the Sun to the body of the Moon in the Zodiack within two degrees and she Radically in Square to Mars The Pole of the Sun is 22 and his Oblique Ascension is 162 15. The Oblique Ascension of the Moon under the same Pole is 209 57. from which substracting that of the Sun leaves the Ark of Direction in the Zodiack 47 degrees 42 minutes And the Diseases that he died by were a Redundance of Humours Pains in his Reins a Malignant Fever and an Imposthume in one of his Buttocks And now I will tell you why the Sun to the Square of Mars did not do it before it was because the Rays of Jupiter succeeded that Direction and did hinder the effects of Mars his Square from killing but yet I do believe he was always Crazy and more Infirm after that Direction than he was before because of the other being so near at hand Lastly If ever there was such a man as this born at that time these Directions to the Hileg are more likely to kill than that of the Moon alone that he alledgeth Laurentius Mancinus dyed the 14 day of October 1650. being first taken ill September the Ninth but his Disease he doth not tell us yet lets us know that he dyed on the Moon to the ●quare of Mars and the Ascendent to the Antiscion of Mars with the help of a bad Revolution And for the better Speculation because there is no great matter of labour in the Directions to be wrought and you may by your Eye only soon decide the point between this great man's opinion and mine about the death of Mancinus I will here give you the Scheme as followeth set according to my Division of the Heavens but to his time When you have considered the thing seriously see if you can make it agree with Reason that the Moon should pass the body of the Sun by Direction and not kill and that the Square of Mars should do it afterwards Is it to be imagined that Mars can kill more certainly than the Sun or do you think that because the Sun is not Lord of the Eighth he could not do it 'T is true Mars is in the Eighth and perhaps Argol might depend upon that to kill it being an approved Doctrine among many Professors to allow nothing to kill but the Lord of the Fourth Sixth Eighth or Twelfth but chiefly the Lord of the Eighth or a Planet in it But Ptolomy tells us Cum Luna est prorogatrix solis l●cus fit Interfector And it is a most certain truth which will never fail you without some very considerable thing happens to save which you will find by reading that Author what and how to which I
refer you it being pl●in and easy to understand when in this case nothing could save on that Direction but on the contrary great Aggravations and Arguments of death by Ptolemy's Rule and therefore I can by no means allow this Native to pass and outlive the Moon to the body of the Sun and dye six years after it on the Moon to the Square of Mars in Zodiaco which Direction I am certain had not power to kill if the Sun could not Now if you please to take a little pains upon it you will find all things may be composed and made agree without any trouble or difficulty The Moon by Origanus being reduced to the time of the day and the Meridian of Rome is 8 degrees 57 minutes in Aquary and by altering the pole of the Moon about two degrees which is not above 12 or 13 minutes in time you will find that the Moon came at that time to the body of the Sun Sine Lat. The Moon 's pole in this Figure is 10 degrees And if you please to make it 12 degrees and a half you will find the Moon 's Oblique Ascension 315 d. and 22 m. the Oblique Ascension of the Sun 354 17 minutes which gives the Ark of Direction of the Moon to the body of the Sun S. L. 38 degrees 55 minutes and this turn'd into time gives 42 years and six months and this should give him some Hectical Habit of body if not a Consumption or else a Fever that may leave such a habit behind it Cardinal Matteus was born says Argol January the 13th min. hor. 19. 17 P. M. 1591. under the Latitude of 42. That he was made Cardinal by Pope Urban the Eighth July 13th 1643. on the Direction of the Sun to the Antiscion of the Moon having before passed the Square of Mercury and Venus who is Lady of the Ninth House in which was the Virgin 's Spike That Saturn in the Sixth gives defluxion and pains of the Gout with Running pains throughout the whole body from Cold humours that from these Complicated Diseases and the Ascendent to the Sextile of Saturn and Square of the Sun he dyed on the 19th of April 1650. being then Aged 59 years and three months The Figure followeth being set to his Time but my Division of the Heavens As to the Direction urged by Argol for his Preferment and the Arguments used to give it Credit they are so weak that no man will imagine there is any thing in them when he hath well considered the case For what signifies the Moon 's Rays to his Preferment she being by her Latitude near the Square of Saturn and he in this Scheme not likely to give or contribute to the Native's Preferment Then for the Squares of Venus and Mercury which he says the Sun had passed before the thing is true but they were so long before that they could give no assistance at all to this Direction for their Antiscion of the Moon falls in 16 degrees of Aries and those Squares fell in 12 degrees But suppose they had fallen nearer what good could they do It is the first time that I ever heard the Squares especially of Mercury were brought as an Argument and Cause to give Church Preferment But besides there is no such thing as the Antiscion of the Moon in 16 degrees of Aries for that falls in 20 degrees of Aries so that his Direction is no Direction nor his Arguments of any use to the end he hath brought them As to his death he uses such weak Arguments and imp●●per Directions as before for his Preferment Nay they are such as would make a man both angry and merry to read them for do you think it is reasonable to suppose the Sun could p●ss his own Square and not kill and the Ascendent to his Square should do it And why should the Ascendent to the ●extile of Saturn kill when it passed the Opposition of the Moon and Square of Saturn and it could not do it But besides all this Is it not more strange that the Ascendent should pass the Square of Mercury Lord of the Eighth and the Antiscien of the Moon who is in the Eighth and do no injury to his Life and yet dye so soon after on these two Directions by him mentioned If the Ascendent hath power to kill by Direction as he pretends it is strange he should escape on dangerous Directions to it and dye at last when there were none at all for the Square of the Sun and the Hexagon of Saturn did not come up till 12 or 14 years after he was dead Thus we are fitted with Rules to make us skilful in our Profession By these means have the Astrologers made Enemies to Astrology and indeed it is a wonder it hath any Friends being dressed up so scandalously as it is at present and hath been for Ages past And the way to make it reputable is to stop the mouths of its ignorant Opposers by making it appear First Rational and Secondly Certain But the Methods and Practices of the Professors of the last Age as well as the present I am sure will never do it and so I come to the Correction I shall make but a small alteration from Argol's Figure but what it is will be sooner and that about 12 minutes At which time the Right Ascension of the Midheaven is 221. d. 30 m. the oblique Ascention of the Ascendent 311 d. 30 m. Hence that Direction that gave his Preferment was the Midheaven to the Sextile of Jupiter And for his death the Sun Hileg to the parallel of Saturn Motu Rapto to his own Square to the Mundane Square of Venus and to the Zodiacal parallel of the Moon and all these in Terminis Martis which is and ought to be considered likewise in this and such like cases The Pole of the Sun is almost 41 degrees and his oblique Ascension is 315 degrees 31 minutes The semidiurnal Ark of the Sun is 4 deg 37 min. the semidiurnal Ark of Saturn is 4 deg 33. min. The Sun's distance primary from the 10th House is 74 d. 4 m. the part proportional 16 d. 31 m. which substracted from that leaves the Ark of Direction of the Sun to the Rapt parallel of Saturn 57 degrees 33 minutes This turn'd into time gives 58 years and 6 months and this Direction was the cause of the humours first falling into Rebellion and gave him the first stroke for his death The next was the Sun to the Mundane Square of Venus Ark 58 degrees 10 minutes this turn'd into time gives 59 years Then came the Sun to his own Square in Zotiaco Ark 58 degrees 18 minutes gives 59 years and two months And ●astly the Sun to the Zodiacal parallel of the Moon Ark 58 degrees 43 minutes and this was the fatal Direction that cut off his Life and now see them in their order as they stand ☉ ad par ♄ motu rapto 57 33 58 6 1649 ☉ ad □ ♀ in
comes to the Body of the Sun or Moon but to the point in Mundo where they were at the Birth and for that reason I have already said That the Significator is moveable in Zodiaco immoveable in Mundo but the Promittor is on the contrary immoveable in Zodiaco and moveable in Mundo And therefore seeing it is the Point where the Significator was at Birth that the Promittor comes to by Direction I see no Reason to the contrary but that the Part of Fortune is all out as capable of meeting Promittors as any of the other Significators only with this difference that the Sun and Moon are liable to be directed convers but the Part of Fortune not and the reason is because it is not carried by the Rapt Motion as they are Now if the Part of Fortune is a point in the Heavens collected by Rule as all do agree and also that it is one of the Five Hilegiack Points then I think it ought to be admitted Hileg when it is qualified according to the Rule in that case provided and indeed they will be at a mighty non-plus to find out their Five Hilegiack Points without it Then if that be granted it is all I here do plead for and that is its quiet and peaceable admission Secondly As to its power of being directed for Death this I do believe will be something difficult to be granted by many and the reason is because they have not been inured to it but the Ascendent hath been generally the Slave to do every thing I remember but one Example in Argol where he directs the Part of Fortune for Death and that is in the Duke of Montmorancy the French-man 's Case of which I have spoke already in the Second Part and though it is but a Point and no visible Body yet that Point being in a fit part of Heaven and no Competitors is as probable an Apheta as the Ascendent it self which though it be allowed a continual Point and always in being yet it is always moving between North-East and South-East and also not constantly qualified to be Giver of Life as also is the Part of Fortune All the Five Hilegiack Points have their distinct and particular Rules by which they are elected to that Power if considered by a skilful hand yet you may talk with Twenty of the Common Practicers that know nothing of that Rule nor do indeed ever take any notice of it Nay more than that They hug themselves with the Satisfaction of being ignorant in the point and value themselves upon it With such I expect no good Entertainment nor indeed do I care whether I have or not I say each of the Aphet●'s have their particular Rules by which they are strictly elected to their Power and the Part of Fortune is as regularly elected as any of them and the Rules to that end as positive and absolute all which being considered the Part of Fortune if truly taken and justly elected hath as good a Claim to the Power of Hileg as the Sun Moon or Ascendent And therefore it is the Duty of every honest Artist to make Observations in his Practice and see if he can satisfie himself in the Deaths of those Persons that dye upon Directions to any other Point besides the Part of Fortune where that is Hileg And in this case I my self have not been deficient nor am I at this time But before I do conclude pray let me ask any skilful man of them all How they will make out their Five Hilegiack Points when they have admitted the Part of Fortune for one for I absolutely deny the Midheaven to be an Aphetical Point that is to be directed for Death For the Midheaven hath no more to do in that than the Cusps of the Fourth and Seventh have and therefore they ought to know which they are or else they will be but weak Pretenders if deficient in their Principles It cannot be expected from me here because I am not writing of the Rudiments but the Improvements of this Art I only mention it here to put the young Students upon the Enquiry and you know there is a certain Promise annexed to it That he that seeks shall find Lastly As to my authority to plead for both its Admission and its Power I need not go far for if you will not take my own Word for it I have a couple of Gentlemen ready at hand that will be my Security and tell you more of the matter than what I have said and they are Ptolemy and his Commentator Cardan To the first of which I need say nothing more to the men of Skill in this Science than to recommend them to those Two Chapters in his Third Book D● Parte Fortunae and Quot sint Prorogatores To the Second I will say nothing because his Skill in Sciences and Universal Learning ●s so well known to all Bookish Men that my Comm●ndation of him will rather be his Injury than his Advantage and therefore I will only recommend the Reader to his Comment on those Two Chapters before mentioned that is Lib. 3. Cap. 12 and 13. and I doubt not but any unprejudiced man may receive full satisfaction about the matter now in debate But if any conceited man shall think himself wiser than Ptolemy Cardan Naibod Maginus and Junctine he may reject their Rules and set up some wise Notions of his own Nay he may call them all Impudent Villains too if he pleaseth as a Poor Ignorant Impudent Fellow did Ptolemy this Year 1697. in Print And so I take my Leave of Argol and conclude this Third Part with this useful Discourse about the Lunar Horoscope Defectio Geniturarum The Fourth PART Continued in the Examination of those Nativities printed by Mr. John Gadbury in his Book called Collectio Geniturarum I Shall have no need to say any great matter by way of Pr●oemium to this Part of my Book First because he is one of our own Country and Nation an Englishman or ought to be so and perhaps better known to many Persons than to my self and to all those my Information of the Man may seem impertinent and because some Difference hath been between us it may be made an ill use of either on the one hand or the other and therefore to keep clear of that Dilemma I will be totally silent in all things that concern his Person Morals Religion and Reputation and this not only here but throughout this Fourth Part I will keep the same Method laying aside all Expressions of Prejudice and only stick to the matter in hand which is to enquire into those Nativities and to see whether they are managed according to the Old and Primitive Doctrine and also whether he doth allow the same Effect in one that he doth in another and I hope no man will take it ill if there appear a just ground for Reprehension and this done in a modest Way and Terms becoming one that expects future times may have
Position to give the Ark of Direction to the Body of Mars 58 degrees 13 minutes which turned into time gives 59 years and 6 months and soon after he dyed For it is impossible if the Sun is Hileg that he should outlive the Sun to the Body of Mars And for his coming to the Crown of England he had the Sun to the Zodiacal Parallel of Venus Lady of the Tenth her Latitude by Stadius from whom he took the Planets places being almost one degree South which gives her Zodiacal Parallel Ark 35 degrees 44 minutes and that in time gives 36 years and some months I do believe to make the Ascendent to the Body of Jupiter give his coming to the English Throne this Nativity was corrected which was the reason they let the Sun pass the Body of Mars the Sun's Pole being too small to meet it in that point they have made him But why Mr. Gadbury hath so strenuously maintained That this Native did not dye by Poison I cannot tell telling his Reader That no such thing was to be read in the Heavens at his Birth and therefore not to be allowed at his Death when there is nothing more plain and visible to be read both at his Birth and Death For he dyed on the Sun to the Body of Mars Square of Venus and Body of Saturn or to take it in his own words to the Conjunction of Saturn and Square of Venus Is not Venus with the Dragon's Tail among the Pleiad●s and the Author of the Doctrine of Nativities tells us The Moon is made poisonous by b●ing with the Dragon's Tail page 148. parag 14. and why not Venus be made poisonous too by that Rule But Ptolemy tells us in plain Words Sed cum Venus est simul significat Veneficia c. Lib. 4. Cap. de genere Mortis Here you see Venus is joyned with the Maleficks and makes good the Rule to a hair And to ●nforce his Opinion for Doct●ine he argues with us very odly saying Jupiter is Lord of the Eigh●● and so Lord of Death And when he is so the Native dyes of a Plurisy an Apoplexy an Angina Convulsions of the H●ad and Stomach c. but by Poison it is absolutely impossible Before he said The Cause of Death was from the Sun Hileg to the Body of Saturn if Saturn gave Death most certainly he gave the Disease also If a man be killed with a Sw●rd that very Sword and not another that gave the Wound gave the Death also If Thomas Blood should kill a man in the County of Cornwall and they should take up Tom. Chance in the County of N●rfolk prosecute him and hang him for that Murder though he knew nothing of the matter it would be most barbarous and cruel Why just so they deal by Jupiter for Saturn murdered this man and poor Jove is like to be hang'd for it Is this Philosophick Astrology Out upon it Charles I. King of England born November 19th at 10 at Night as he says 1600. He makes him 25 degrees of Leo ascending but not one Direction suitable to the Accidents mentioned except the Midheaven to the Trine of the Moon for his Coronation But to talk of the Ascendent to the Square of Mars for his Death is such a rough Doctrine not only unpleasant to the Ear but improbable to reason for if you have any faith in Ptolemy's Doctrine the Ascendent is not giver of Life but the Part of Fortune see Qu●dri Lib. 3. Cap. 13. Besides how many doth he allow passed the Ascendent to the Square of Mars and never killed them As Q● Elizabeth the Earl of Ess●x pag. 45. the Duchess of Sfo●●●● Pope Gregory XV. Bishop Hall Mr. John Beale Dr. Geoffery le Neve and many others who had the Luminaries not in Aphetical Pla●cs as this Prince likewise had them nor is M●rs any more made Malefick by position in this then in any of those Nay Mars is here in Conjunction with Venus and therefore the m●re unlikely to kill And in a word I do positively affirm That the As●●ndent to the Square of Mars was not the cause of this Prince's Death And the reason for this seems plain to me for we must walk by a Rule and if they will allow this to be a positive effect of the Ascendent to the Square of Mars I would desire some Gentleman to make a Rule of Exception to it and shew us why those Natives abovementioned did escape with Life on this Direction And till that is made clear and plain I must believe this to be a very doubtful Nativity as well as his Father's I have told you the Part of Fortune is Hileg in this Nativity and if I were to correct it I should direct the Part of Fortune to the Square of the Moon to the Zodiacal Parallel of Saturn and to the Mundane Parallel of Mars and this by making but a small Alteration for the Part of Fortune is but 10 degrees distant from the Midheaven and the time would be a little later I do not desire any man should be confined to my Notion or Opinion in this matter but then I desire they would let their Directions in their own way do the same thing at one time that they do at another and not bubble us with sham Stories and Tricks If they do but nearly hit the Mark it is no matter what Bow they shoot in The Duke of Glocester is said by our Author and I suppose believed by many to dye on the Sun directed to the Opposition of Saturn which cannot be because the Sun is on the Cusp of the Eighth and not Hileg if his Figure is true and the Division of the Heavens likewise but the M●on because of her Latitude is there certainly Apheta Why did not the Sun to the Opposition of Saturn kill Henry VIII Frederick III. Emperor of Germany Duchess of Sfertia Mr. S●epkins Mr. J●hn Mallet Mr. John Booker Mr. John Gadbury Examine these Nativities where it came up in some young others in old age and yet in none it kill'd with divers others I could have mentioned Therefore we may reckon this also among the doubt●ul Nativities The Lady Mary eldest Daughter to Charles I. was born November the 4th at 17 minutes past 5 in the morning 1631 as saith our Author page 20. and that it nearly agrees with the Bishop's Diary And tells us also He was impos●● on by a Pretender to print a false one for this Lady 's true Birth before but now he says he is certain it is true And yet 15 years after this he printed another forher true time of Birth and which of these three we may rely on I know not In the first he made 19 degrees of Scorpio ascending in the second 27 degrees of Libra and in the third in his Obs●qui Rationab 2 degrees of Scorpio Now if this last is the truest which indeed it ought to be then the Directions that he gives in his Collection for her
the Moon and the Sun to the Trine of Satu●n killed him But now if any unlucky Rogue should ask the reason of his Death what shall we say Say E●ter Mr Tr●ublesom Well Gentlemen what do ye say what was it killed Frederick III Say Why we say he dyed on the Sun Giver of Life to his own Sextile and Trine of Saturn and Part of Fortune Hileg to the Opposition of the Moon Ha ha ha Pray Gentlemen spe●k softly or else you 'l spoil Urania's Reputation Now these Directions you will find to be all they can s●v for this man's Death and is not this a parcel of miserable Stuff I should have been willing to have seen the estimate Time and then a man might have said something to the Correction of it but without that we are all in the dark And I do believe this Nativity of his to be true as certainly as I believe that of the Lord Strafford Charles Gustavus and the Princess Royal nor will I venture to correct it Charles Tortenson the Swedish General is by our Author said to dye on the Ascendent to the Opposition of Saturn and yet the Moon in the Seventh in Cancer and certainly Hileg if this is the true time of that man's Birth Besides he lets the Ascendent pass Four Directions one after another successively and two of them Lords of the Eighth House and 30 or 40 years after he kills him on the single Direction of Saturn's Opposition He lets Queen Elizabeth outlive the Ascendent to the Opposition of Saturn notwithstanding the Horoscope is Giver of Life And the Minister page 111. and Sir Robert Holburn and Mr. Ho●per the Merchant with divers others and why should this man be thought to dye on it when all these escape James Duke of Richmond and Len●x dyed on the Ascendent to the Square of the Moon and Opposition of Jupiter if you will believe our Author and yet the Moon Hileg in the Midheaven And to add to his Skill in the matter he lets him pass the Ascendent to the Square of the Sun Lo●d of the Eighth some time before which did not affect him as I can find The Lord Francis Villers is also said to dye on the Ascendent tothe Body of Mars when both the Moon and Part of Fortune are in Aphetical Places the one in the Tenth and the other in the Seventh The Ascendent to the Body of Mars did not kill Charles Tortenson nor the Queen of Hungary nor Charles Gustavus I. King of Sweden nor the Duke of Albemarle nor Dr. Gouge nor John Heydon nor Mr. Eastwood and a many more and therefore I cannot believe it in this Lord's case John Picus Earl of Mirandula is borrowed from Lyndhalt to shew the Power of the Stars and how exactly the Predictions of several Astrologers were verified in his Death who had strenuously wrote against Astrologers and the Verity of their Art On this man's Nativity many had spent their Judgment and all agreed that he could not live beyond the Ascendent to the Body of Mars at or about the Age of 33 years which happened near enough to prove their Pretences as he called them to the Power of the Stars For when he was 33 years of age he dyed as they all agree on the Ascendent directed to the Body of Mars and this as Sir Christopher Heydon well observes page 193. while he was wrangling and scolding against Astrology in general and the effects of Directions in particular It is most certain that he dyed on the Ascendent to the Body of Mars c. But whosoever runs away with this Notion and makes the same Prediction on the same Direction in another case may chance to see himself mistaken if he lives to the Time he appoints For I am able to shew you divers Nativities where the Ascendent is Hileg too and yet always the Ascendent to the Body of Mars doth not kill as you may see in Mr. Eastwood's Case page 170. if that is the true time of his Birth he out-lived the Ascendent to the Body of Saturn and Mars in Conjunction near the Pleiades But I something doubt the Truth of that Figure But I judge you all allow that an Opposition is nearly as dangerous as the Body if so then take Mr. Gadbury's own Nativity who did not dye on the Ascendent to the Opposition of Mars and yet the Ascendent Hileg There are divers things to be considered before you judge Death positive on such a Direction as they did in Picus's Case and I think I am also able to tell you when such a Direction will and when it will not kill a short Specimen of which I will here give you as an Example in this Nativity which was never mentioned before though it ●ath gone through such hands whose heads are far better furnished than mine is and first see the Figure Now according to the usual Doctrine Why should the Ascendent to the Body of Mars kill He is not Lord of the Fourth Sixth Eighth or Twelfth but in Trine to Venus Lady of the Ascendent and in Trine to the Sun Lord of the Eleventh in his own House in Scorpio and no ways qualified by the Common-Trade-Astrology to be a Murderer and yet for all this you see they predicted his Death upon it And you find he either out of Constraint or Complaisance dyed upon it And yet you may also see the Duke of Richmond did not dye upon the Ascendent to the Body of Mars nor on the Bodies of Mercury and Saturn that came up after it but when the Square of the Moon and Opposition of Jupiter came they did his business But in this Case of Picus Mirandula I dare engage where-ever you find the Ascendent directed to the Body of Mars with a Train of Directions attending it as this man had it shall always kill be the Nativity never so vital and strong See the Directions wrought   d. m. y. m.   Ascend ad □ ♄ 30 2 33 00 1496. Ascend ad ● ♂ 32 55       Ascend ad □ ☿ 34 35       Ascend ad ☍ ☽ 43 34       Now by this short Table you see there is a Train of Directions and not one good one to fall in either to deter their Force or break their Fury And it was not the Ascendent really to the Body of Mars but to the Square of Saturn came up first and yet I have not altered their Scheme a minute in Time yet I allow Mars to be the Poiothanatos We are told That Prince Maurice was cast away at Sea on the Ascendent directed to the Square of Saturn notwithstanding the Moon is Hileg in the Ninth and about that time by Direction comes to the Body of Venus in the Tenth This plaguy Ascendent kills more people than all the other Points of Heaven put together do by Direction and yet the Ascendent to the Square of Saturn did not kill in Francis L●sdiguerius's Nativity though he was Lord of the
of another Opinion I should be glad to see his Doctrine published Since I wrote this I have sound his Life in my Study written by Mr. J. G. which I did not think of before and he says He dyed September the 20th Anno 1668. of a Hoarsness with a Catarrh and Consumption In the Nativity of Mr. John Sabye it is said He was born July the 1st hor. 5. min. 15. P. M. 1621. Lat. 52. and that he dyed on the Direction of the Ascendent to the Opposition of Saturn But that cannot be for Two Reasons First The Ascendent is not Hileg and Secondly Saturn is under the Sun-Beams and therefore cannot kill by a positive Rule Besides what reason have we to believe the Ascendent to the Opposition of Saturn hath more power to kill here than in Mr. Hooper the Merchant's Peter Gassendus Sir Robert Holburn the Minister pag. 111. Frederick King of Denmark and divers others where his Title to kill is full as good as here and yet did not do it In the Scheme that he hath given Jupiter is Hileg but I judge the time was given him half an Hour past 5 or between 5 and 6 and then the Sun will be Hileg by which means the Nativity will be doubtful Mr. John Collins the Mathematician was born die Saturni March the 5th hor. 6. min. 12 P. M. 1625. Lat. Oxford Our Author makes him the beginning of Libra Ascending but I rather think he hath the latter end of Virgo ascending or else I cannot imagine what kill'd him at 58 years and 6 months old But I am certain our Author can give no reason for his Death by the Figure he hath printed unless he will make the Sun to the Body of Venus mortal which perhaps some may be so weak in their Understanding as to believe because she is in the Eighth I judge he was born at 6 or a very little afterward and then the Moon is Hileg and directed to the mundane Parallel of Saturn followed by his Body and the Opposition of Mercury But as to the Correction he hath made by the Midheaven to the Trine of the Sun for his Office and the Ascendent to the Trine of the Moo● for his Marriage it is false and those Two Accidents were not from those Two Directions This Gentleman was an excellent Mathematician and taught it in London many years with great Approbation and I have heard him recommended for a man of great Reason and Ingenuity which if true how shall we construe the 36th Aphorism in the Collection which says Mercury in Pisces makes a man Confident without Reason and pretend to what he knows no●● Mr. Will. Leybourn was born die Mercurii October the 18th hor. 5. min. 41. P. M. 1626. and hath lived in defiance of their Stars and the Continuance of his Life hath given the Lye to most of their Rules now in fashion for he hath outlived the Midheaven to the Opposition of Saturn that killed Duke Hamilton and James Sibbalds He hath outlived the Ascendent to the Square of Mars that killed Oliver Cromwel He hath outlived the Ascendent to the Square of Saturn that killed Lewis XIII King of Franc● and Prince Maurice He hath outlived the Sun to the Square of Saturn that killed Judge Reeves He hath outlived the Moon to the Opposition of Saturn that killed Mr. Eastwood He hath outlived the Moon to her own Square and the Opposition of Mars that killed Bishop Morton and the Sun to the Square of Mars that killed Dr. Gouge And if he hath got this Art and Power of Living I believe they must be forced to find out some new Stars for the old ones will not do you see The Moon in this Nativity is Giver of Life without any doubt and though she hath passed her own Square in their method yet she hath not in mine and that is followed by a Mundane Parallel of Saturn but when that happens I cannot tell because I suppose this Figure is corrected as he calls it by the Ascendent to the Square of Saturn for his Fever at 24 years of age which I am sure alters it much from the estimate Time I know a Thickheaded Astrologer who on such an occasion altered his Estimate time but Three Hours to crowd in such a Direction upon us and therefore I must suspect this by that Rule We are told by our Author That the famous Mr. William Lilly was born the 1 st of May at 8 minutes past 2. manè 1602. Lat. 52. 38. and we all know he dyed the 9th day of June 1681. being then 79 years and a month old And a Club of Autho●s in a Book lately printed have told us He dyed on the Moon Hileg to the Mundane Parallel of Mars which I should be glad to see proved to do which will I am sure require a Club of a double number and the Famous and Learned Mr. C to be one of them But to be short there was no such Direction as that at that time nor within 20 years of it but if there had been such a one as they say it is at that time it could not kill because they say it is a Converse Direction and Ptolemy says There is but one Converse Direction kills and I am sure this is not that which he means and therefore I give Credit to their Figures both alike Indeed had they told us of the Moon to the Zodiacal Parallel of Saturn to the Zodiacal Parallel of Mercury and Body of Mercury it might have had some Credit but the other non at all Had I any certain ground to proceed on I am very willing to take some Pains on this famous man's Nativity but the Estimate Time being so uncertain nay the day is no more but guessed at and the time of the day for ought I see is more uncertain than that and therefore to pretend to take pains on such a doubtful Subject is but to abuse the world with another Imaginary Nativity which I am not willing to do The next I shall consider is that of the Author himself Mr. Jo●n Gadbury which he hath printed three or four times already and in my Judgment every one of them false The Accidents that he corrects it by are the Ascendent to the Sextile of Venus for his Marriage at 24 and 10 months and to the Opposition of Mars for a Surfeit at 19 years and 8 months and when all this is done he hath not given us the Estimate Time And therefore let me say this in short If he should bring twice as many such Arguments more to prove it I will not believe one of them unless he can solve the main Objection about the Mid-heaven to the Body of Saturn on which Direction I say he was Committed to Prison As to his saying It was the Midheaven to the Square of the Sun gave that Trouble it will admit of a Debate whether there be such a Direction or not but this of the mid-Mid-heaven to the
is hard to say whether it is a Blessing or a Punishment to us But be it as it will no man lives that shall not taste of it and therefore as I have begun with his Life in a natural way so I will go on to his Death and the time of it as near as I can According to this Correction we have before us the first Direction that is or can be allowed dangerous to Life is the Moon Giver of Life to the Cusp of the Seventh at 39 years and 7 months old but I am partly certain that cannot kill because the Moon at the same time comes to the Mundane Parallel of Jupiter just after it motu convers● and within 9 degrees of his Square so that I cannot allow that to hit him yet he will have some Illness at that time but without eminent Danger But when the Moon comes to the Opposition of the Sun at ●1 years of age almost I do not think he will escape it because it is followed by such a train of Directions after it no less than 10 but the next and immediate Direction that succeeds i● is the Square of Mars and from him we must seek the Species of the Disease Mars you see is in Capricorn in Square to the Sun Saturn and Mercury hence I judge his Distemper to be a Fever complicated with disorders of the Reins and Head perhaps Delirious and Nephritick if not a Suppression of Urine totally The Direction toucheth in the end of the year 1737. but the precedingRevolution being no ways violent Saturn being then with Mars in 9 degrees of Gemini and Jupiter in 7 degrees of Pisces I judge it will not affect him till the beginning of the year 1738. about the time of the Ingress or a little after Saturn then being in 19 degrees of Gemini and Mars in the middle of Aquary and when Mars comes to the beginning of Aries or the l●tter end of Pisces he will influence the place of Direction at which time it is probable he may fe●l the Influence of his rugged Stars I have already told you That the Estimate Time was a little after I mane and my Rule generally is That Children are born sooner than the time commonly given and so may this for ought I know for the Direction that I principally rely on in the Correction is but a single one to suit to a single Accident which tho' they seem rational and probable yet I dare not be positive to the truth of the Correction though I believe it to be true But if he should happen to be born at 1 of the Clock or a few minutes before then the Moon will not be Giver of Life but the Ascendent if so the Cause and Time of Death must be sought from the Horoscope and not from the Moon and therefore I will give you the Directions to the Ascendent in a Figure set to that time Ascendens ad ☌ ♃ 7 45 8 6 1695 Ascen in Ascendens ad ▴ ♄ 22 23 24 4 1711 15 ♐ Ascendens ad ☌ ♂ 22 33 24 6 1711   Ascendens ad ⚹ ♀ 24 3 26 4 1713   Ascendens ad semiquad ☉ 29 45 32 5 1719   Ascendens ad semiquad ♃ 35 57 39 1 1726   Ascendens ad sesquiquod ♄ 37 3 40 2 1727   Ascendens ad 8 ☽ 40 23 43 8 1730   Ascendens ad semiquad ♂ 51 12 54 10 1741   If the Ascendent is Hileg when it comes to the Body of Mars it will be a severe time for danger to his Life but I do not think he will dye of it because he hath a favourable Revolution no evil secondary Directions and Jupiter on the Place of Direction to a degree and in his radical Horoscope all that year and what is more it is a strong vital Nativity At the Age of 32 years and 5 months the Ascendent comes to the Semiquadrate of the Sun which will give him another dangerous fit of Sickness but not so bad as the other yet both of them attended with danger but I think he may outlive them But at the age of 40 years if the Horoscope is Apheta he will certainly dye without a Miracle from Heaven for according to my Skill in Astrology I can by no means see any ground to judge his Life will be continued beyond that time And to say the truth his Nativity cannot be exactly and truly corrected till the Ascendent comes to the Body of Mars it being the first Direction of consequence to an Angle and no other Directions can correct true either in this or any other Nativity Directions to the Sun and Moon will come near but the Angles exact And so I come to say something to the effects of his Directions in the former Table At the age of 4 years and 3 months he was taken into the particular care of a Gentleman and ever since hath been plentifully and genteely provided for by a Relation and a Person of Quality He had then the Ascendent directed to the Body of Jupiter At the age of almost 8 years he had the Small Pox and at 8 and 10 months he fell down a pair of Stairs for this I allow the Sun to the Opposition of Saturn cum sine Lat. with some other things already mentioned Aged 16 years he hath the Moon to the Sextile of Saturn and to the Trine of the Sun just after on these Directions he will be placed out in the world perhaps sent to the University or otherwise disposed Aged 17 or 18 years the Sun to the Square of Jupiter mundo the Moon to the Sesquiquad of Jupiter mundo and the Part of Fortune to the Parallel of Saturn in mundo his affairs of Life will be uneasy and he hindred in his Preferment according to his Capacity Aged 19 years and 6 months the Moon to the Trine of Venus and Sol ad Tr. Jovis this gives a healthy Constitution all things go easy and pleasant and some Preferment seems to offer it self Aged 20 years and 6 months the Ascendent comes to the Body of Mars this will give a Fit of Sickness and a ruggedness in his Affairs his Friends seem to be but indifferent in his Interest and all things for a short time go but untoward Aged 22 years the Moon comes to the Mundane Parallel of Jupiter and the Part of Fortune to the Trine of Mars he grows vigorous in his Health new Friends appear with Interest and Preferment and perhaps some attempt at Marriage Aged 24 years the Moon to the Parallel of Mars about this time he w●ll be subject to a feverish H●bit and a S●rfeit but a fit of illness will happen with a little Trouble or Disappointment in his affairs and I do think he will keep some wild Company under the Influence of this Direction Aged 25 years the Midheaven to the Sextile of Jupiter this Direction will certainly introduce the Native into the Acqu●intance of new and honourable Friends by
Body of Saturn is certain and positive and admits of no debate because Saturn is visible on the place and we can see him pass the Midheaven but the Square of the Sun is perfectly imaginary as he understands and works it and therefore I will correct it by the Midheaven to the Body of Saturn for his Trouble beginning November the 2d 1679. at which time he was taken into Custody But if you look into his Table of Directions you will find that his Midheaven to the Sextile of Jupiter and Square of the Sun came up and toucht in December 1678. and he was not in ●rouble till November 1679. By which I suppose it will be granted That his Correction is not true in it self if you allow his method and that I thus prove If you keep to the Figure printed then the Ascendent to the Sextile of Venus in Zod. comes up at 24 and 8 months to marry him The Ascendent to the Opposition of Mars for his Fever and Surfoit at 19 and 11 months but he was sick at 19 and 8 months but then the Midheaven to the Square of the Sun will come up just a year before his Trouble which I cannot allow if there were such a Direction which I say there was not If you correct the Scheme by the Midheaven to the Square of the Sun to touch 2 months before his Trouble then the Ascendent to the Opposition of Mars comes up at a year and a month after his Surfeit and the Sextile of Venus comes up just 8 months after he marrried So that these things differing will call the whole Calculation in question if we should grant such a thing as the Square of the Sun in Zod. for the Directions will not nearly hit I do not expect them to hit exactly and I know the Reason why they will not do it but a year difference is not to be allowed notwithstanding Morinus his Sham of a Direction that lay dormant 14 months after it toucht and then began to work And so I will shew you the Figure of my correcting by the Midheaven to the Body of Saturn for his Trouble in 1679. I shall not trouble you with a long Preamble of Reasons for my Correction it is sufficient I have told you my Reason why I think his is not true and by the Direction following you may judge of the truth of the preceding Figure only I will tell you this That neither the Sun Moon Ascendent nor the Part of Fortune are any of them Givers of Life but Mars alone and it is he must be directed for Death if any one will take the Trouble to do it which I will not at this time And as to his Marriage I allow the Moon to the Sextile of the Sun in Mundo to give that though I must tell you I do not look on Marriage or the Small Pox to be such remarkable Accidents as some think they are to correct by and for his Surfeit and Fever the Sun to the Rapt Parallel of Saturn with the assistance of a violent and pernicious Revolution and so I will give you a few Directions past and to come that you may see what reason I have to believe the Figure I give to be true And also observe the effects of those to come but if you have better of your own either print or else let me see them without Printing and it will be an O●ligation   d. m. y. m.   ☉ ad p●rall ♄ motu rapto 19 39 18 10 Surfeit and Fever ☽ ad sextil ☉ mundo d. d. 24 27 23 3 Married first Med. Coeli ad corpus ♄ 51 8 51 8 Imprisonment Med. Coeli ad △ ♀ 59 39 59 10 Married again Ascendens ad corpus Jovis 61 48 62 00   Sol ad par ♄ Zod. per A. O. 62 12 62 8 Trouble confin'd ♂ ad 8 ☉ 66 25 66 11 Sick and disord Sol ad 8 ♄ 71 45 73 1 1700 ☽ ad parall ♄ in Zod. 71 58 73 4 1700 ♂ ad parall ♃ in Zod. 72 31 74 2 1701 ♂ ad parall ☉ in Zod. 73 57 75 7 1702 ☽ ad corp ♂ cum lat 74 36 76 3 1703 ♂ ad parall ♄ motu rapto 75 35 77 3 1704 Ascendens ad semiquadr ☽ 76 9 77 10 1704 ♂ ad parall ♃ in Mundo 76 49 78 6   ☉ ad parall ♄ in Zod. 79 55 81 8   Ascendens ad △ ♄ 79 58 81 9   Thus I have given you my Sentiments of this Gentleman's Nativity and what Reasons I have to dissent from the Scheme he corrected and for the future part of his Life I do not think it is my business to meddle with it here but leave that to his own private E●quiry not doubting of his Ability especially to satisfie his own Curiosity I do observe That he assigns Directions for every one almost of those Children at the end of his Book as the cause and occasion of Death but in that he is mightily out for where there is one dyeth by Direction within the space of a year or a year and an half there are ten dyes by Position and so did most of those there given Espceially his own Son Mr. Martyn's Daughter T. Tryon's Daughter Coley's Child and for Mr. Sawyer's Child can any man conceive the Ascendent to the Opposition of Saturn could kill it when the Moon was in Conjunction with Jupiter so near the Horoscope I judge the Nativity is made and fitted to the time of Death not to the Birth of the Child for the Moon is most certainly Hileg in this Nativity and the Child lived beyond the years of Nutrition and therefore it dyed by Direction and not by Position but not by the Direction he hath given And so I conclude my Discourse on those Nativities mentioned in his Collection of Genitures and yet before I end this Fourth part let me give you two Nativities more that I believe will be as useful to you that are Readers of this Book and Students of th●s Art as any I have before mentioned they being both of them very remarkable ones The First is the Nativity of one Mrs. Taylor a Woman as Remarkable as any this present Age can afford us especially if we consider and weigh the Circumstances and Contingencies of her Life and Death She was born of good Reputable Parents but not endow'd with any great Estate that might put them into a capacity above that of their Neighbours among whom they dwelt She married at the age of 18 years and 9 months and had four Children living at her Death At the age of 23 or 24 she did so well improve her Credit that she borrowed of divers People without Bond or Security a great many Sums of Money to the value of 20000 Pounds in the whole and some say 40000 which I believe will seem very incredible to those that hear the Story only and knew nothing of it that people should so easily part with their money