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A34012 Missa triumphans, or, The triumph of the mass wherein all the sophistical and wily arguments of Mr de Rodon against that thrice venerable sacrifice in his funestuous tract by him called, The funeral of the Mass, are fully, formally, and clearly answered : together with an appendix by way of answer to the translators preface / by F.P.M.O.P. Hib. Collins, William, 17th cent.; F. P. M. O. P. 1675 (1675) Wing C5389; ESTC R5065 231,046 593

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celsitude_n i_o must_v say_v something_o of_o her_o virtue_n and_o worth_n which_o because_o it_o be_v infinite_a and_o in_o exhaustible_a i_o confess_v i_o know_v not_o how_o to_o begin_v however_o this_o i_o be_o sure_a of_o that_o her_o father_n who_o be_v omnipotent_a bequeath_v unto_o she_o all_o power_n and_o dominion_n over_o heaven_n and_o earth_n math._n 28._o so_o that_o there_o be_v no_o creature_n whatsoever_o of_o what_o rank_n be_v it_o never_o so_o high_a but_o must_v acknowledge_v his_o be_v virtue_n and_o power_n to_o depend_v whole_o on_o she_o it_o be_v in_o she_o as_o the_o apostle_n say_v act_n 17._o vivimus_fw-la movemur_fw-la &_o sumus_fw-la we_o live_v we_o move_v we_o be_v whatever_o perfection_n be_v dispersedly_z in_o every_o creature_n be_v all_o unite_a in_o she_o and_o all_o their_o perfection_n and_o virtue_n be_v but_o shadow_n and_o a_o mere_a participation_n of_o her_o essential_a one_o christ_n by_o his_o incarnation_n noblisied_a and_o raise_v our_o humane_a nature_n above_o all_o the_o quire_n of_o angel_n by_o his_o bloody_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o cross_n he_o purchase_v our_o redemption_n and_o by_o this_o unbloudy_a sacrifice_n of_o the_o mass_n he_o unite_v we_o unto_o himself_o and_o make_v we_o his_o mystical_a member_n for_o he_o say_v joh._n 6._o qui_fw-la manducat_fw-la meam_fw-la carnem_fw-la &_o bibit_fw-la meum_fw-la sanguinem_fw-la in_o i_o manet_fw-la &_o ego_fw-la in_o eo_fw-la he_o that_o eat_v my_o flesh_n and_o drink_v my_o blood_n he_o say_v not_o the_o sign_n of_o his_o flesh_n and_o blood_n abide_v in_o i_o and_o i_o in_o he_o that_o be_v to_o say_v we_o shall_v be_v knit_v and_o unite_v together_o and_o say_v again_o with_o a_o oath_n ibid._n amen_o amen_n unless_o you_o eat_v the_o flesh_n of_o the_o son_n of_o man_n and_o drink_v his_o blood_n you_o shall_v have_v no_o life_n in_o you_o and_o again_o he_o that_o eat_v i_o the_o same_o also_o shall_v live_v by_o i_o so_o that_o according_a to_o the_o clear_a expression_n of_o those_o text_n our_o union_n with_o christ_n consist_v in_o the_o mass_n or_o which_o be_v the_o same_o thing_n in_o eat_v the_o sacramental_a bread_n which_o be_v offer_v in_o the_o mass_n and_o our_o disunion_n or_o separation_n from_o christ_n consist_v in_o our_o not_o eat_v it_o and_o by_o the_o three_o text_n we_o be_v teach_v that_o in_o it_o our_o life_n consist_v for_o he_o say_v present_o after_o he_o that_o e●…teth_v this_o bread_n shall_v live_v for_o ever_o the_o angelical_a doctor_n s._n thom._n aquinas_n to_o who_o arbitration_n mr_n de_fw-fr rodon_n proffer_v with_o his_o whole_a party_n to_o subscribe_v concern_v the_o eucharist_n in_o opusc_n 57_o have_v these_o word_n o_o pretiosum_fw-la &_o admirandum_fw-la convivium_fw-la salutiferum_fw-la &_o omni_fw-la svavitate_fw-la repletum_fw-la quid_fw-la enim_fw-la hoc_fw-la convivio_fw-la pretiosius_fw-la esse_fw-la potest_fw-la in_o quo_fw-la non_fw-la earn_v vitulorum_fw-la &_o hircorum_fw-la ut_fw-la olim_fw-la in_o lege_fw-la sed_fw-la nobis_fw-la christus_fw-la sumendus_fw-la proponitur_fw-la verus_fw-la deus_fw-la quid_fw-la hoc_fw-la sacramento_fw-la miralibius_fw-la in_o ipso_fw-la namque_fw-la panis_fw-la &_o vinum_fw-la in_o corpus_fw-la &_o sanguinem_fw-la christi_fw-la substantialiter_fw-la convertuntur_fw-la o_o precious_a wonderful_a and_o healthful_a banquet_n replenish_v with_o all_o sweetness_n for_o what_o can_v be_v more_o precious_a than_o this_o banquet_n in_o which_o not_o calf_n or_o goat_n flesh_n as_o in_o former_a time_n but_o christ_n the_o true_a god_n be_v set_v before_o we_o to_o be_v eat_v what_o be_v more_o wonderful_a than_o this_o sacrament_n for_o in_o it_o bread_n and_o wine_n be_v substantial_o change_v into_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ._n s._n cyril_n in_o joan._n admonish_v the_o faithful_a people_n say_v sciant_fw-la igitur_fw-la baptizati_fw-la homines_fw-la &_o divinae_fw-la gratiae_fw-la participes_fw-la facti_fw-la si_fw-la rarius_fw-la in_o ecclesiam_fw-la proficiscantur_fw-la
consecration_n ought_v to_o be_v understand_v according_a to_o their_o immediate_a sense_n p._n 17._o the_o b._n sacrament_n be_v the_o new_a testament_n in_o christ_n blood_n &_o not_o only_o of_o his_o blood_n p._n 22._o these_o word_n this_o be_v my_o body_n signify_v a_o substantial_a be_v and_o not_o a_o sacramental_a only_o p._n 23._o the_o protestant_a communion_n exhibit_v not_o christ_n body_n &_o blood_n to_o the_o believer_n p._n 27._o the_o sacramental_a species_n receive●…_n worthy_o make_v the_o receiver_n a_o mystical_a member_n of_o christ._n p._n 30._o i'faith_o alone_a insufficient_a for_o this_o sacrament_n ib._n faith_n be_v no_o mouth_n literal_o or_o metapho●…ically_o p._n 31._o christ_n glorify_a body_n never_o damnify_v by_o the_o receiver_n of_o the_o b._n sacramen●…_n p._n 32._o to_o verify_v a_o proposition_n it_o suffice_v the_o thing_n be_v as_o the_o proposition_n say_v it_o be_v p._n 35._o i●…_n be_v the_o sacrament_n that_o be_v the_o chief_a and_o whole_a cause_n of_o our_o spiritual_a refreshment_n and_o the_o thing_n which_o the_o soul_n principal_o hunger_n and_o thirst_v after_o faith_n be_v only_o a_o con●…ition_n requisite_a so_o be_v hope_n and_o charity_n also_o for_o to_o receive_v worthy_o p._n 38._o christ_n body_n worthy_o receive_v work_v spiritual_o upon_o the_o soul_n p._n 40._o these_o word_n of_o st._n aug._n to_o eat_v the_o ●…lesh_n of_o christ_n be_v a_o figure_n etc._n etc._n which_o de_fw-fr rodon_n allege_v against_o we_o expound_v p._n 43._o cardinal_z cajetan_n authority_n allege_v against_o we_o expound_v p._n 45._o the_o action_n whereby_o we_o obtain_v remission_n of_o sin_n an●…_n sanctification_n end_v in_o glo●…ification_n consist_v not_o in_o the_o spiritual_a eat_n or_o drink_v by_o faith_n only_o p._n 5●…_n in_o these_o word_n my_o flesh_n be_v mea●…_n indeed_o no_o figure_n fall_v upon_o the_o word_n meat_n p._n 55._o christ_n flesh_n be_v a_o corporal_a food_n that_o nourish_v spiritual_o only_a p._n 57_o object_n of_o divine_a faith_n not_o to_o he_o level_v by_o our_o reason_n and_o sense_n p._n 59_o christ_n come●…_n into_o the_o sacrament_n by_o a_o adductive_a power_n p._n 66._o he_o be_v not_o produce_v there_o entitative_o but_o modal_o only_o p._n ibid._n certain_a passage_n of_o scripture_n allege_v a●…ainst_a we_o by_o de_fw-fr rodon_n viz._n that_o there_o be_v ●…reaking_v givin●…_n ea●…ing_v and_o drink_v after_o consecra●…ion_n answer_v p._n 68_o when_o christ_n say_v drink_v you_o all_o this_o mat._n 26._o he_o mean_v his_o blood_n p._n 71._o why_o the_o e●…ects_n of_o the_o sacramental_a species_n ●…emain_v after_o transubstantiation_n p._n 73._o transubstantiation_n be_v a_o total_a substantial_a conversion_n and_o not_o a_o formal_a substantial_a conversion_n only_o p._n 75._o the_o sac●…amental_a species_n be_v something_o sub●…ect_v li●…e_v p._n 77._o transubstantiation_n destroy_v not_o the_o nature_n of_o acci●…ents_n p._n 79._o transubstantiation_n destroy_v not_o the_o nature_n o●…_n sac●…aments_n p._n 84._o corporal_a nourishment_n in_o the_o sacramental_a s●…ecies_n n●…t_o requisite_a p._n 85._o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n ought_v to_o be_v adore_v with_o a_o latria_n p._n 88_o if_o our_o adversary_n give_v not_o a_o latriacal_a adoration_n to_o their_o communion_n bread_n it_o may_v be_v lawful_o give_v to_o dog_n p._n 89._o if_o they_o adore_v their_o communion_n they_o be_v great_a idolater_n than_o we_o p._n 91._o christ_n give_v power_n to_o priest_n to_o consecrate_v p._n 97._o christ_n body_n be_v in_o the_o sacrament_n immediate_o by_o reason_n of_o its_o substance_n p._n 99_o it_o be_v quantity_n be_v also_o there_o though_o not_o with_o its_o quantitative_a dimension_n p._n 100_o the_o definition_n of_o a_o proper_a place_n and_o how_o many_o manner_n of_o way_n both_o christian_a divine_n and_o philosopher_n hold_v a_o thing_n may_v be_v in_o a_o place_n p._n 103._o a_o glorious_a body_n may_v be_v in_o its_o equivocal_a place_n p._n 109._o the_o jacobins_n and_o the_o jesuit_n opinion_n concern_v christ_n body_n to_o be_v bring_v or_o produce_v in_o the_o sacrament_n save_v p._n 112._o christ_n body_n be_v in_o all_o thing_n subject_a to_o his_o soul_n as_o his_o soul_n be_v subject_a to_o his_o divinity_n p._n 117._o why_o the_o local_a extension_n of_o christ_n body_n in_o the_o sacrament_n be_v hinder_v p._n 119._o de_fw-fr rodon_n argument_n of_o to_o move_v and_o not_o to_o move_v at_o the_o same_o time_n etc._n etc._n answer_v p._n 121._o wherein_o a_o formal_a contradiction_n consist_v p._n 123_o de_n rodons_n ridiculous_a quibble_n and_o unphilosophical_a illation_n answer_v p._n 129._o distance_n be_v only_o betwixt_o corporal_a thing_n whilst_o they_o be_v in_o their_o univocal_a place_n p._n 130_o a_o sacramental_a place_n be_v proper_o no_o place_n at_o all_o p._n 133._o de_fw-fr rodon_n dropsical_a argument_n of_o a_o drop_n of_o water_n that_o drown_v many_o thousand_o etc._n etc._n moulder_a p._n 136._o division_n be_v only_o between_o corporal_a thing_n in_o their_o proper_a place_n p._n 138._o god_n and_o nature_n be_v not_o oblige_v to_o do_v what_o they_o can_v do_v p._n 140._o de_fw-fr rodon_n shoot_v at_o christ_n through_o diana_n side_n p._n 143._o christ_n be_v see_v in_o the_o sacrament_n by_o the_o spiritual_a eye_n of_o our_o understanding_n support_v by_o the_o light_n of_o faith_n p._n 146._o it_o be_v not_o convenient_a we_o shall_v see_v christ_n visible_o with_o our_o corporal_a eye_n in_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n p._n 148._o substance_n possess_v no_o place_n p._n 151._o christ_n body_n in_o the_o sacrament_n whether_o take_v substantial_o or_o quantitative_o have_v no_o posture_n or_o situation_n in_o it_o p._n 154._o his_o body_n appear_v not_o more_o or_o less_o for_o divide_v or_o sub-dividing_a the_o host_n p._n 156._o christ_n be_v as_o glorious_a and_o happy_a in_o the_o host_n as_o he_o be_v in_o heaven_n p._n 161._o what_o these_o term_n reduplicative_o and_o specificative_o what_o sensus_fw-la compositus_fw-la and_o divisus_fw-la mean_v p._n ibid._n as_o christ_n come_v into_o the_o host_n without_o local_a 〈◊〉_d so_o he_o leave_v it_o without_o local_a ●…e_n 〈◊〉_d p._n 165._o de_fw-fr rodon_n give_v the_o apostle_n the_o lie_n p._n 167._o christ_n diana_n and_o the_o apostle_n save_v from_o de_fw-fr rodons_n keen_a arrow_n p._n 168._o de_fw-fr rodon_n jump_v with_o the_o jew_n against_o christ_n p._n 170._o his_o thunderbolt_n or_o celestial_a arrow_n shiver_v p._n 172._o according_a to_o de_fw-fr rodons_n principle_n there_o ought_v to_o be_v no_o sacrament_n of_o our_o lord_n supper_n at_o all_o p._n 174._o cl●…ud_fw-fr de_fw-fr xainte_v defend_v against_o de_fw-fr rodon_n p._n ibid._n exorcism_n p._n 176._o de_fw-fr rodon_n miraculous_a arrow_n put_v by_o p._n 179._o christ_n real_o in_o heaven_n and_o real_o in_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n at_o the_o same_o time_n p._n 182._o he_o be_v not_o in_o the_o sacrament_n impanated_a p._n ibid._n he_o give_v himself_o to_o judas_n also_o p._n 18●…_n bellormine_v and_o peron_n defende●…_n p._n 186._o the_o sacrament_n of_o the_o old_a testament_n have_v a_o relation_n to_o those_o of_o the_o new_a p._n 187._o the_o mo●…sieurs_fw-fr scripturistical_a arrow_n shat●…ered_v p._n 190._o the_o mark_n of_o the_o roman_a church_n p._n 193._o the_o seven_o sacrament_n expound_v p._n 195._o why_o we_o keep_v the_o eucharist_n in_o our_o pix_n and_o 〈◊〉_d p._n 197._o monsieur_n and_o his_o party_n the_o false_a prophet_n the_o evangelist_n speak_v of_o p._n illid_v god_n many_o manner_n of_o way_n in_o his_o creature_n p._n 202._o external_n adoration_n due_a to_o christ_n where_o he_o be_v know_v to_o be_v personal_o present_a p._n 203._o heretic_n uncivil_a both_o to_o god_n and_o man_n p._n 206._o according_a to_o de_fw-fr rodons_n principle_n we_o may_v adore_v the_o devil_n instead_o of_o christ_n p._n 209._o why_o external_n adoration_n be_v due_a to_o christ_n in_o the_o sacrament_n more_o than_o in_o the_o water_n of_o baptism_n p._n 210._o heaven_n and_o hell_n destroy_v by_o the_o monsieurs_fw-fr principle_n p._n 211._o the_o monsieur_n three_o foundation_n build_v upon_o quicksand_n p._n 215._o de_fw-fr rodon_n very_o considerable_a argument_n pernicious_a to_o all_o mankind_n p._n 218._o destructive_a to_o go●…s_n providence_n p._n 222._o a_o moral_a certitude_n of_o be_v christen_v sufficient_a p._n 223._o pope_n adrian_n defend_v against_o de_fw-fr rodon_n p._n 226._o apostate_n priest_n and_o monk_n in_o credit_n and_o spiritual_a jurisdiction_n with_o de_fw-fr rodon_n and_o his_o party_n p._n 228._o the_o p●…imitive_a church_n adore_v the_o host_n p._n 233._o prove_v by_o the_o testimony_n of_o sundry_a holy_a father_n p._n ibid._n our_o diana_n or_o mass_n hold_v it_o out_o from_o all_o age_n maugre_o de_fw-fr rodon_n and_o all_o heretic_n p._n 237._o diana_n vindicate_v against_o idolatry_n p._n 238._o the_o church_n make_v no_o new_a article_n of_o
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