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A04790 Two godlie and learned sermons appointed, and preached, before the Jesuites, seminaries, and other aduersaries to the gospell of Christ in the Tower of London. In which, were confuted to their faces, the moste principall and cheefe poincts of their Romish and vvhoarish religion: and all such articles as they defend, contrarie to the woord of Cod [sic], vvere layed open and ripped vp vnto them. In Maye. 7 and 21. Anno. 1581. By Iohn Keltridge, preacher of the vvorde of God, in London. Keltridge, John. 1581 (1581) STC 14921; ESTC S105451 120,903 140

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Christ was in the same manner compared to the rodd of Aaron that blossomed to the golden pott wherein the Manna was to the Manna that came downe from heauen Iesuites are in a damnable most dangerous estate resisting this opē vndoubted veritie to the brazen serpent that was lifted vp in the wildernesse to the Prophet Ionas that was thrée dayes and thrée nightes in the whales belly to the high way in which men walke to the dore by which men haue passage to the sheepeheard which is a keeper of shéepe To a Lyon of the Tribe of Iuda which deuowred to a Lambe which is commonly slayne for men yet was not Christ really in all these no more is he corporally in the bread at the table Now if all only this kind of speech were vsed of Christ you might say something but I tell you that not only of Christ and his person all alone is this vsed but of all manner of things too in the booke of God Christe sayde of Iudas I haue chosen twelue and one of you is a diuel yet was Iudas no diuell Of the circumcision it was spoken thus My couenaunt shal be in your fleshe for all that the circumcision was not the couenant Gen. 33.20 but a signe of the couenant Iacob is saide to haue built an Altar to the Lord and to haue called it by this name The mighty God of Israel There is no dout but Iacob knew the the name Altar was not God yet did he cal the signe by the name of him the was signified This figure is so common as nothing is more common in the scriptures It was written of Iohn Baptist that he was the burning lampe and the candle that gaue light and that he was Helias Yet you all knowe that this was spoken but by a figure In Genesis the seauen kine and the seauen cares of corne are said to bee seuen yeres yet were they but representations of the same Ahias the Prophete the Sylonite gaue vnto Ieroboam the tenne peeces of his cloke which was cut and saide he gaue vnto him the kingdome of the tenne tribes Yet Israell was not in the péeces of the cloath So in like manner say I to you touching this take eate it is my bodie yet is not Christ a reall and naturall bodie there And that you may sée howe wee haue some thing more to say vnto you and that wee doe not ground our faith and religion vpon presumptions I am desirous to be satisfied at your handes and to be aunswered vnto two reasons that I will make against you For this I holde that Christ is not really naturally flesh bloode and bone in the Sacrament and I reason thus As Christ was with our fathers of olde in their sacramentes so and after the same manner is Christ with vs in ours But the bodie of Christ was not really bodily carnally and grossely in their sacramentes ergo Christ is not really naturall flesh blood and bone in ours For my first proposition ● Cor. 10. I doe referre you vnto the first to the Corinthians where you shall finde that wee haue no more priuiledge then haue they nor prerogatiue thē had they 〈◊〉 saluation by any other or by any other meanes then had they and when either you can or be able to say ought against those vndoubted and infallible truethes which we haue spoken then will I say more My second reason is this He that is really carnally bodily fleshly euen perfect man in the heauens is not so and in the same manner with vs here in the earth But Christe is verily humanely really bodily with the same bodie hee tooke of the Virgin Marie and perfect man in the heauens Ergo Christ is not really flesh bloud and bone in the breade here in the earth I doe remember what Augustine saith Qui vult viuere Super Iohan. tract 26. habet vbi viuat habet vnde viuat accedat credat incorporetur vt vinificetur that is He that will liue he hath the thing nowe by which he may liue he hath the place where he may liue Let him drawe neare let him beleeue let him be incorporated that he may be quickened And in the same place it followeth Coena dominica est sacramentum Pietatis signum est Vnitatis The Fathers neuer vsed to say really bodily gr●●ly flesh bloud and bond in the bread Vineulum est Charitatis that is The Supper of the Lorde is the sacrament of Pietie the signe of Vnitie and the bond of Charitie so that it appeareth Augustine thought as we doe thinke and beléeued as we doe betéeue which was that we haue a spiritual foode and a spiritual drinke in these external elements and outward signes of breade and wine Moreouer the Scripture is euident and plaine and proueth this which I haue spoken that is howe Christe is bodily and naturally in the heauens not bodily in the earth Mark 16. In Marke it is thus written 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is Christ was taken vp into heauen But he that is there is not also bodily here with vs Ergo Christ is not bodily here on earth In Luke I find this Luke 24. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 that is he went from them But in bodie Christe went from them and in the same bodie Christe is with his father Ergo not bodilie and carnally with men vpon the earth Another argument Semper pauper es habebitis vobiscum Matth. 26.11 non autem me that is The poore ye shall alwayes haue with you but me you can not alwayes haue with you Where out I gather this briefe The poore and Christ can not be together in one place but we are assured and persuaded certainely that the poore of the world are alwayes vpon earth Ergo Christ is not with them nor where they be here vpon the earth Then séeing Christ is not corporally with vs nor in fleshly and bodily presence We haue to inquire and search out the manner of his being here on earth For it is true that we eate and drinke his bodye and his bloud They that will learne they must apply one scripture with an other but after another manner then you affirme None is ignorant howe that man consisteth of bodye and of soule Therefore it is expedient we should as well be fed with spirituall foode as it is necessaris we should liue by temporall meate of which thing if any man here be ignoraunt then is it bicause the spirite of GOD hath not quickened him For if you reade the sixt of Iohn you shall finde it most apparantly Also Christe saith in an other place Blessed are those that hunger and thirst after righteousnesse for they shall be satisfied Therefore as there is a spirituall which is an internall famishment so is there a heauenly Esai 55.1 which is to the soule spirituall nourishment Isayas saith Omnes sitientes venite ad aquas c. 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