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A69592 An apologie concerning perfection being a fundamentall answer and reply upon Esaiah Stiefel his exposition of four texts of the Holy Scripture written in the year 1622 ... / by Jacob Behme, also called Teutonicus philosophus ; Englished by John Sparrow.; Vom Irrthum der Secten Esaiae Stiefels und Ezechiel Meths. English Böhme, Jakob, 1575-1624.; Sparrow, John, 1615-1665? 1661 (1661) Wing B3415; ESTC R14771 119,599 158

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passe from me and he prayed to God so that he sweat a bloudy sweat 4. Also when he would do Wonders or Miracles and Signes then he prayed his Father to hear him as may be seen by his raising Lazarus from Death Moreover it is written also that God will give his honour to no other Also I only am the LORD and GOD Also God is one only God and none Else 5. Therefore his Title and Introduction to the Person for whom he sets forth the Explanation is instantly very Erroneous and he will answer in the Perfect power of the Omniscience in and out of the Holy Trinity and esteemeth himself like God in every thing or substance and sets himself up as if he were God himself 6. He will in Christ with his totall humane substance outwardly and inwardly in all Saints be and know that which no Creature can know or do or be but the Spirit of God only which IN Every Man bloweth up the knowledge and imparteth to every one his own measure according to his gifts as be will not as the Creature willeth 7. But this man saith He will answer out of Christ out of his Eternall Wisdome out of the Heart and Mouth of God out of the holy Trinity 8. And though he had a divine command for it which a Man may very well doubt of and come to us in an Angelical Embassie yet he could NOT speak to us out of the Manifested or revealed sound or voyce of the Holy Trinity out of Christs self-subsisting Person but out of his Creature in divine Power through the Creaturely and humane Property in that kind as all men from the beginning of the world to this time have spoken 9. And though Men may with truth say that Gods Spirit speaketh through the Humane sound yet men should give the honour to God and not ascribe it to himself For it is written God will not give his honour to another he hath given it to his Son JESUS CHRIST to whom alone he hath given the holy Spirit in the Eternall Word without Measure and to no other 10. Whence Christ saith Matth 28. All power in Heaven and on Earth is given to me of my Father which no other Man while he liveth in this world dare say concerning his creaturely Humanity that he hath all power in Heaven and on Earth but only this JESUS whose out-going hath proceeded from Eternity 11. Also this JESUS CHRIST said when he would depart from us If any shall come and say he is Christ that we should not beleeve it and prophesied to us that Many false Christs and Prophets would arise after him of whom we should beware 12. Therefore it is very suspicious to us that this man will of himself speak out of the Heart and Mouth of the Holy Trinity for the Creature should humble himself before God and by no means say that he is God himself but a created work and Image of his Likenesse with whom God may do what he will 13. Further He speaketh of the Originall and Creation of Man so wonderfully that he cannot shew it in the Holy Scripture nor in the Light of Nature and there belongeth clean another Explanation to it 14. Yes he speaketh also of Christ so strangly that in briefe it appeareth to be no sufficient intelligible Explanation he saith CHRIST is from Eternity the expresse Image of God in the Divine Mother of his Love generated or born out of the voyce of the holy Trinity and so maketh a difference between the first born before all Creatures and the Holy Trinity and yet will have him also dwelling in the Holy Trinity 15. So he makes very wonderfully FOUR Persons as it should seem in the Deity as if the holy Trinity had from Eternity generated in it self some other Similitude and Image in which birth or geniture he also will have the Humane Originall from Eternity and so wonderfully blendeth one thing with another that a Man can not understand what God is and what Creature is 16. He saith God hath Created all Heavenly and Earthly Creatures in that first begotten or born Sonne of God and begotten the Sonne out of the Greatest Substance even to the least from Eternity out of God he understandeth thereby out of the Holy Trinity 17. And maketh all things one in another as a whirling Wheele so that a Man cannot understand out of what the Creaturely Originall is seeing he concludeth all without distinction in Christ and so setteth the Name of CHRIST as proceeding from Eternity 18. And saith that God hath brought forth all things in Christ and then he must also have brought forth all Evill venomous poysonous Worms and Beasts in Christ as also Darknesse and the hellish quality source or Torment and all whatsoever liveth in such a property 19. John saith in the first Chapter At the Beginning was the Word and the Word was with God and God was the Word the same was in the beginning with God through that he hath made all things that were made and without it was nothing made that was made John saith God was the Word and in him was the Life of Men. 20. He saith NOT At the Beginning was CHRIST but the Word that very Word became Man in the Virgin Mary that was Christ which quenched the Anger of his Eternall Father in the humane property through the Christ and the Crusher or bruiser of the Serpent and destroyed the Devills Den of Robbery in the humane property 21. When the Angel Gabriel came to Mary and brought her the Message That she should be impregnate and bear a Sonne whose Name she should call JESVS whose out-going is from Eternity to whom God the Father will give the Throne of his Father David 22. He saith NOT there whose Name you shall call JESUS CHRIST but only JESUS whose beginning and Exit is from Eternity but the Name CHRIST existed in the JESUS when he possessed the Throne of his Father David and brake the Head of the Serpent and shed his Heavenly Bloud into the Fathers Anger and quenched the same in the humane property with divine Love 23. There he obtained the Name CHRIST as a Healer of the Soar or the Anoynted of God a breaker through Death a victorious Prince over Hell Death and the Devill 24. No Creature is Created or made in the CHRIST but he in the Regeneratour of the humane property he bringeth the humane Life out of Death and generateth that in CHRIST through the Name JESUS in the divine Power anew and to be the Child of God 25. For CHRIST is the Mother of the Regeneration and not the Creatour of All things in which all things lye inclosed 26. The CHRIST is become Man but the JESUS in the CHRIST is the Creatour of all things 27. The CHRIST saith To ME is given all power both in Heaven and on Earth he saith not from Eternity God
from the Fire and Light 71. And Man viz the Image of God should not be such a Calfe as not to know and learn to understand his Fathers house nor should he indeed forbid THAT as this Authour doth in his Explanation to whom that God would give a better apprehension is my hearty wish and desire 72. Concerning Mans Originall Moses telleth us God said Let us make Man an Image of us which may rule over all that is upon the Earth c. And saith further God Created man in his Image yes to the Image of God Created he him 73. This now is very rightly spoken but the Explainer is here a Wrester or Perverter and understandeth it not Whereas yet he accounteth he hath spoken out of the voice of the Holy Trinity and giveth forth his matters for totally Divine without blemish but to this time yet he hath not heard the divine voyce nor apprehended it in the Sound but only the voyce of the out-spoken Word in Evill and Good in his own Reason and Self-hood Saint Paul saith Man was foreseen or elected in Christ before the Foundation of the world was laid In this lyeth the Kernell before the times of this world the Modell of Man was known in the Eternall wisdome as an out-breathing of the Word from the Fire and Light as a Form in the Divine wisdom but stood in No Creature or Image but after a Magick-kind as an Image appeareth to One in a Dream which is without Substance 75. Thus is the Appearance in the Universall out-breathed out-spoken-substance in the Spirit of God which hath known all things according to every ones property viz according to the Anger of the Fires property in the Darknesse and in the Light in the Love 76. For the Flash of the Creation out of the Great-Mystery was seen in the wisdom in Evill and Good according to the property of BOTH Desires as an Eternall Contrary 77. The Anger viz the Dark-world hath in its desire seen the Image or similitude of God and so also hath the Love in its free longing delights desire Not that the property of the Love plungeth it self into the Anger and beholdeth it in the Anger but each property IN it selfe 78. Therein hath the Spirit of God which eternally goeth forth out of the Fathers Fire and Light known the Fall in the Anger of God so that when this Image of the Figure of God should become created into a living substance it would be also drawn by the fierce wrath and loose its Glory 79. Here in this Place hath the CHRISTUS or Christ in the Name JESUS as a will to the CHRISTUS set it self towards the Similitude of God and given the Will thereinto out of the JESU into the Created humanity to be a Christus or SAVIOUR 80. And in this Will was created the Similitude of God MAN in the Time viz on the Sixt day of the Creation into an Image out of a Masse or Extract of all the Creation of this worlds Substance as also out of the heavenly worlds substance 81. Out of the out-breathed or out-spoken Substance of the Eternall Word and become formed in verbo Fiat in the word Fiat according to the Similitude of the Eternall Mystery and the Eternall birth or Geniture of the Holy Trinity into an Image 82. Into which God the Father through the Word or Divine Sound with his Spirit hath introduced the Spirit of Life out of all the Three Principles viz out of the Fire-Light-and outward-World 83. Viz First The Fire-Spirit of the First Principle out of the Eternity out of the Fathers Property which is the true Soul 84. And Secondly the Lights Source or Quality and Spirit out of the voyce of the Love which is the Noble Image of the Deity each standing in its own Principle and governing its world 85. Thirdly The Spirit-Aire in like manner inbreathed from without into his Nostrills 86. So that Man is a living Spirit of all the Three Principles according to the Similitude of God as God himself is all in all but with the true Deity viz with the Good is known or comprehended by nothing but by his Similitude viz whatsoever is generated out of the GOOD and standeth therein 87. Now understand me aright As God in his Light in the Holy Light world shineth through ALL and tinctureth all and bringeth it from the Fiery Property into the power of the Joyfulnesse and with the same power also presseth through the outward world through all things and giveth all things power and life 88. And yet the Substance IN which God worketh is not called God though it hath a working from the out-breathed Mystery in it self in which the Vegetative or growing Life standeth viz a Sulphury and Mercuriall seething which in the Salt of the power becometh Corporeal viz an own self Fiat or Generating like an Impression according to the Property of the Eternall Spirituall Mystery as a Manifestation or Revelation thereof 89. Thus also was the Similitude of God Man in his innate station and thus from God Created out of the Substance of all Substances into an Image according to the Substance of all Substances and that even in his understand in Mans Image which was known from Eternity in the wisdom viz in the Glimps of the out-breathed shining of the Divine Revelation or Manifestation in that kind and manner as the Spirit of God hath seen all things in his wisdome from Eternity 90. This Image was not a Substance but a will to a Substance which with its root and originall stood in the Name JESU viz in the Humility of God where it introduced it self out of the Fire into the Light viz into the Good 91. And in this Place although it is no place where the Meek Love-Will goeth forth out of the Property of the Fathers Fire into the Light and Joyfulnesse or kingdome of Joy and compriseth and includeth in it self an own self Center of the Will and desire Originateth from Eternity the Name of the SONNE of God viz the first born of the Father from Eternity before all Creatures and here is called the Fathers Heart and Love and out of this Love goeth the Holy Spirit forth from the Father and the Sonne and is the Fathers Love-Flame 92. Understand us thus In that very Will which is out-breathed or out-spoken out of the Holy Name JEHOVA or JESUS out of the Speaking Eternall Word of the Father into the wisdome of God as a Glance of the knowledge or Representation of the Spirit like a Looking-Glasse was man created into an Image out of the heavenly and earthly Elementary Substance out of the out-breathed substance of Eternity and out of the Substance of Time standing one in another as the Eternity standeth in the Time and neither is the other and yet not divided asunder but only as through a Principle 93. The Substance of Eternity is the pure Element in which the vegetative
more assured certainty 16. At the Beginning he maketh a great Speech or Sermon signifying how He will Answer out of Christ the Triune God out of Gods Mouth and Heart out of all Saints men should hearken to it and look upon it as Gods infallible Word 17. This now is sufficiently explained above that it is groundlesse and that to speak in such a manner is ineffectuall also it doth not become any Angel or Man so to speak 18. But concerning the Text Isa 54. 5. The Explanation thereof is very sufficiently made before yet for the Readers sake I will set down somewhat more 19. The Prophet saith He who hath made Thee is thy Man or Husband The Lord of Hoasts is his Name and thy Redeemer the Holy One in Israel who is called the God of all things 20. The Prophet speaketh here in his own understanding not of a Man or Husband but by way of Similitude in like manner as the Seed to Man lyeth in the Man or Husband from which Man becometh manifested So all yes all whatsoever is manifested lay in the Eternall Man or Husband viz in the Generatour of all things or Substances 21. But especially of mans Life which he hath breathed into the Created Image according to the Similitude of his Substantiality and out of all his out-breathed Substance as John saith The Life of Man was in HIM 22. And yet in this we are not so to think as if the inbreathed Life or Substance of Man were only and solely the Spirit of God in Divine Holinesse and Omnipotency No else if that were perished as it came to passe then God were perished but each Life of each Creature becometh given to the Creature out of the Originall of its Substance 23. So the Substance of Man is given forth out of the Three Principles viz out of the Eternity and out of the Time viz out of the Substance and Source or Quality of Darknesse which containeth in it Nature viz Sulphur Mercurius and Sal. 24. As to the First Part and Principle Spirituall as a Regiment or Dominion and Source or Quality out of which Substance cometh to be and as to the Second Part according to the outward World corporeall in the first Principle fiery and in the Third Principle out of the dark impression Earthly and Four Elementary and sydereall from the Sun and Stars And from the Second Principle from the Light and Power of that out-breathed or generated Substance Heavenly Holy and Oyly viz from the pure Element and divine indwelling also Paradisicall in Power and Highnesse 25. In this created Images Substance out of Three Principles viz out of the out-spoken Substance of all things or Substances hath the eternall Spirit of God extracted the Originall of this whole Substance which is a Spirit out of all the Three Principles out of and through the Substance and made it a Ruler and Life of the Substance viz a Living Soul 26. That is A Fire-spirit out of the First Principle with the Root of the first Impression to the manifestation of the Deity and in standing in the Darknesse and in the Center of the first Fire of the eternall Nature with the first Life in generating in the seaven properties out of which ALL Substances are existed 27. THAT is the true Fire-Soul out of the Fathers property wherein God calleth himself a Strong Zealous or Jealous God and a Consuming Fire but is not knowne or manifested in the Light of God but is only the CAUSE of the Kingdome of Joy 28. And in the dark Root viz in the first Impression viz in the true Center of the Creature is the Originall of Sinne viz of the Evill if that property in the Creature becometh manifested then is that Life a life in the fierce wrath and Anger of God and an Enmity of the Love and Meeknesse 29. And Secondly the Spirit of God hath inbreathed into him the Originall of the Substance of the Second Principle viz the Life out of which the heavenly Substance in the desire of Love becometh generated out of and through that very Substance in which Life the Soul is the true Image and Similitude of God and an Angell in the Kingdome of God 30. Which Life Adam squandered away and lived only in the dark fiery and Earthly part which Life God hath manifested out of JESUS viz out of the greatest depth of humility in CHRIST out of himself again in Man 31. Thirdly Gods Spirit hath inbreathed into him the Aire viz the Soul of the outward earthly Substance out of and through the earthly Flesh as viz a Life of the Flesh of the Earthlinesse which Life should be subjected to the holy and stand hidden in him as a help and Instrument in equall agreement of Heat and Cold and neither of them be in the Dominion but the holy Life of the Second Principle in the Sonne should Rule The Sulphur and Mercurius should Rule in a holy power viz in a Quintessence in the pure Element then the Paradise had continued manifest 32. Understand us aright thus the Man or Husband who hath spoken or expressed this fore-mentioned Substance out of himself hath Created Man out of this his generated corporeall Substance The Prophet meaneth THAT where he saith He who hath made thee is thy Man or Husband 33. For in him lyeth ALL viz as a Seed in the Man or Husband out of his Exhalation or out-breathing a Seed became manifested First the Three Principles and out of the Three Principles the Creature 34. The Second Clause of the Verse The LORD of Hoasts is his Name This the Prophet of God understandeth concerning the Eternall Substance of God without besides or beyond all Nature and Creature and without besides or beyond the Principles as the eternall Will of the Free Longing Lust or Delight manifesteth it self in the Abysse 35. Which at this place or in this Birth or Generating is NOT said to be THREE fold but ONE only GOD who riseth up in himself and goeth forth out of himself in a Spirituall Manner and manifesteth himself through the Center of his Fire with the Light and the Power of the Love desire in the Transmutation of the Fire into the Light 36. Which Birth or Geniture and manifestation manifesteth out of the Fire the Divine Sound Power and Understanding after the Manner of the Five Senses as a peculiar Life a Life of Love and this Life is called the Second Person of the Deity viz the Second Principle of the Divine Substance 37. Wherein the Abysse viz the eternall Nothing in the stillnesse of the Will manifesteth it self through the Fire in the Light and maketh the Fire to be the Kingdome of Joy and this Birth or Geniture is called the First Born of the Father of all Genetrixes through which the Father hath generated and Created all things to the Light Whatsoever is out of or from the Inward Spirituall Eternall and then out of or from the outward Nature
the Holy Trinity hath been hidden to all Creatures and yet is through the second moving of the Deity as a holy sweet Love-Sun become manifested 15. I must not say that in the Person CHRIST viz in the Man according to his humanity according to that part which he hath on him from us Men from our Body and Soul that is on to the Deity on to the Divine Substantiality or Heavenly Corporeity taken on to him That the Creature is ceased and taken up or that the Creature Soul and Body from us Men is unmeasurable 16. No for such a One is not our Eternall High Priest which I could never more see in the Form of Man for the Men when he went to Heaven said Ye shall SEE this JESUS come again as he is Ascended 17. Only the Deity in him and the Christ understand the divine property together with the Heavenly divine substantiality wherewith he saith John 3. 13. He was come from Heaven THIS is uncreaturely and yet IN every Man as an own Sun yet only in one point which shineth forth out of the fountain of this Sun indeed from no place or space but the place of this holy revelation or Manifestation is in ALL Men the Center of the Originall 18. This SUN is in all Men but this Sun is not revealed or manifested in all Men but only in the Desire to the Point which is CHRIST which point is JESUS out of JEHOVA 19. But concerning the Holy woman or wife which this Authour mentioneth which is holy and PERFECT wherein the Man CHRIST becometh generated needeth also a farre other Explanation 20. And though he sets down the Holy Christianity to be the woman or wife which I blame not yet a Man must not speak that concerning the outward Earthly Man for the Earthly Man is not Christs Spouse or Wife but the inward Spiritual which faded or disappeared in Adam the Heavenly which Christ as viz the Holy SUN vivifieth 21. But this Authours writing is altogether Contradictory and runnes counter against it selfe for here in this Point he writeth of this Spouse or Woman and Body thus which he NOT outwardly prepareth createth and maketh new but in the Inward Center and middle of the Heart from the beginning of the world instantly after the Fall in Grace Love and Mercy yes in the Faith espouseth betrotheth and uniteth to himself and prepareth it for his Eternall Rest In like manner also this holy Man CHRIST JESUS the Innocent Lamb of God yes the Triune highly praised Sonne of God God himself which was slain from the beginning of the world IN all Faithfull and Saints according to the Testimony of the Scripture 22. Before this Authour hath set down in another place that if CHRIST became manifest or revealed in Man then Nature falleth Totally away Now he sets it down that CHRIST in the Inward Center and middle of the Heart hath from the beginning of the world espoused and united himself with the Saints in the Faith which indeed were true if he did not speak it concerning the Man CHRIST but concerning the Promised CHRIST in the Covenant which first in Time fulfilled the Covenant 23. For Not CHRIST the Man who in the Time in the Limit of the Covenant manifested or revealed himselfe was slain in the Holy Patriarchs but the Children of Faith in whom the Covenant became manifested 24. CHRIST hath once given and offered up his holy Life in the sweet Love to his Father into his Anger which was manifested in the Humane Property and with the Love broken the Anger to pieces He hath not dyed in ALL the Saints from Adam to this time and suffered himself to be slain and put to death Only the Children of the Faith of the Covenant have suffered themselves to be put to death according to the MAN of SINNE that the word of Life in the Covenant in them might put on the new promised Life which would manifest it self in the Covenant with the future Sun of the New Life in the Spirit of the Covenant 25. So that when Christ would manifest himself in the Covenant in the Flesh he also in that Covenant which had manifested it selfe in them would be manifested in them with the divine Substantiality viz with Christs heavenly Flesh 26. For even after the Resurrection of Christ when he had assumed the Humanity and slain death it was not CHRIST that dyed any more in his Members in the Christians or was slain but Adam in Christs Death that Christs Spirit in the Soul and the holy Man might Live When Christ becometh born then should the Man of Sinne continually Dye till at last when the Outward body departeth it WHOLLY ceaseth 27. But if Christ the Lamb of God were become slain in the Old Patriarchs then the reconciliation was performed IN them and then it cometh not solely and onely from the Sonne of MARY 28. Abel was NOT the Lamb of God which was slain for Sinne Christ dyed not in Abel but in the BODY which he received from MARY 29. Abel and all the Martyrs dyed as to their own Bodies for the sake of the Covenant which opened it self in them they were slain and dyed as to their sinfull Adamicall Body and not as to the Holy Body which was shut up in the Covenant which Christ when he would manifest himself in the Covenant would manifest it to be an Eternall Life and holy Flesh in which he would dwell and be the power and Life thereof 30. When the Holy Scripture saith CHRIST was slain in the Saints then it understandeth then Members of the Body of CHRIST according to Christs humanity which HE the Christ assumed It understandeth not the Triune God that should suffer it selfe to be slain from the beginning of the world for doubtlesse God cannot dye That which dyeth is only the Body of Christs Members according to the humane Creature and not according to the Spirit of Christ 31. The Spirit of Christ hath therefore manifested it self in the Humanity and slain Death in his assumed Body that the Gates of Life in us should be opened for if I be murthered for the sake of Christs Name and the Testimony thereof then doth not Christ dye in me but Adam dyeth in Christs death and Christ in my dying becometh first rightly manifested 32. My dying is Christs Resurrection in ME for I dye away to the sinfull self-hood or Nothingnesse and live to the Resignation in the Spirit of Christ 33. Therefore this is a voyd and groundlesse thing that this Authour writeth that the Man Christ the Innocent Lamb of God God himself which from the beginning of the world according to the Testimony of the Scripture was slain in all the Saints and faithfull c. 34. The Triune God is not from the beginning of the world slain in his Saints the Scripture saith not so but the Faithfull Men were slain for Christs sake and NOT the Triune Christ IN them