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A37064 A demonstration of the necessity of settling some Gospel-government amongst the churches of Christ in this nation held forth in an answer to a querie whereby Mr. Saltmarch did once endeavour to hinder the settlement of all church-government in the nation : written in the year 1646, and now published for the present use of these times, wherein it may be seasonable to be taken into consideration for the preventing of further confusion and disorder amongst the professors of the Gospell / by John Dury. Dury, John, 1596-1680.; Hartlib, Samuel, d. 1662. 1654 (1654) Wing D2851; ESTC R24917 50,485 74

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understand what is is meant by a Settlement and by a hasty settlement and by that which is called fitness I conceive that by a Settlement is meant here an Authoritative Determination of all things belonging to the Government of Souls as they are to be practised throughout the Churches of this Kingdome so that in case of disobedience such as are refractory against that determination and disturbe the publique Peace by disorderly walking shall be lyable to suffer what the Power of the State shall inflict upon them By the hastinesse of this Settlement I conceive is meant not any rash or unadvised speed but the suddennesse of that determination without further delayes proceeding from debatements and deliberations concerning the same And by the fitnesse of such a Settlement I suppose is meant the conveniency and usefulnesse of the thing for the publique good both of Church and State and the private benefit of souls therein As for the limitations added to these parts of the Querie I wish they had been more plainly set down for I doubt of his meaning therein but that You and He may not doubt of Mine I will declare it that if I take not His aright He may if he think good rectifie my mistake I conceive then by that which he doth call Power commonly desired in the hands of the Ministers th●t he doth mean the way of Judicature in Church-Matters as the Assembly hath desired it to be settled in this Kingdome of which that he may have a right Character for I doubt he is mistaken and not rightly informed of the way I will tell you briefly that it is a Power of Order and Discipline in the House of God that this Power is not in the Persons and hands of the Ministers alone but in the Office of the Eldership wherein the Minister is the leader of the rest that this Eldership is made up of Men gifted and freely chosen to and for the Congregation by the Brethren and appointed with the Minist●r over all matters of Church-concernment That their Office and the Power belonging to it is not otherwise desired in common then as the word of God doth warrant it to be practised and the example of the best Reformed Churches hath shewed it to be practicable By all which you see that I must understand his Querie as concerning the matter thereof thus Namely that the thing whereof he doth speak is concerning the ordering and directing of spirituall matters belonging to the souls of men which by Christs power over his subjects is to be executed in the Office of the Eldership according to the Scriptures to bring the Congregation of Saints to a perpetuall communion with God which is their happinesse Of this thing he doth make a doubt Whether it be fit speedily to settle it in this Kingdome or no But the doubt is not absolutely of the thing in it self for who will call that in question but of the fitnesse in respect of the limitation annexed which is to be determined according to the Principles of true Religion and State It had been worth his labour to have made a description of those Principles that we should not mistake him in the main matter whereby he would have us to regulate our thoughts in the decision of the doubt for except He and I understand one another in the same Principles of Religion and State we shall never be able to square out the conclusion of fitnesse or unfitnesse after the same proportion for if he measure not his cloth by the same ell which I have or I by that which he hath He and I shall never agree in the length and bredth thereof I 'l then tell you my thoughts which if he reject not we may come to agree in By Religion I understand a tie whereby the Conscience is bound to subject the soul to God in his true worship This tie of Conscience is made up of a Three-fold Coard which cannot be broken or untwisted without the overthrow of the substance of Religion The first is the Doctrine of Truth by this the Understanding is bound to know God and believe him The second is the practise of Godlinesse by this the Will and Affections are bound to love God and yeeld themselves to him in obedience The third is the Confession and Profession of both the former before Men By this the whole Man in his bodily service is made a living and acceptable sacrifice unto God Rom. 12.1 The two first Coards are twisted together in one by the Apostle when he styleth his Apostleship a service of God according to the Faith of his Elect and the acknowledging of the Truth after Godlinesse Tit. 1.1 Where we may observe how these things lie together 1. The Apostle is Gods servant for his Elects sake namely to bring them by the Preaching of the Gospell to the obedience of Faith as he expresseth it Rom. 1. 5. 16.26 2ly His preaching doth this by the proposall of the 〈◊〉 which i after Godlinesse and this Truth when it is acknowledged begetteth Faith 3ly Observe the cennexion of this acknowledgement with Godlinesse to be this that it is not onely inseparable from it but that the Truth begetting Faith is measured by Godlinesse and commensurable to it So that as nothing is to be counted Godlinesse which doth not proceed from the acknowledgement of Gods Truth so nothing is to be counted a Truth begetting Faith without the practise of Godlinesse But when Gods Spirit doth twist both these together upon the conscience of the Elect then the obedience of Faith is begotten in them which is the proper name of our Christian Religion as it is inwardly before God in the heart whereunto if the outward profesion or confession of the mouth before Men be joyned which is the third Coard of this tie then Religion is fully compleated in the whole man And this third Coard is joyned by the Apostle unto the two former as a means no lesse necessary to salvation then they This you have Rom. 10. 9 10 11. where speaking of the summe and substance of our Christian Religion he saith thus If thou confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead thou shalt be saved for with the heart man believeth unto righteousnesse and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation for the Seripture saith whosoever believeth on him shall not be ashamed He shall not be ashamed in two respects First in respect of the event and effect of his Faith that without fail salvation promised shall follow upon it and he shall not be frustrate of his expectation Secondly In respect of the duty by which his Faith is to be operative towards salvation namely by confessing the truth of his Faith and Obedience for if he doth deny this Truth wherein Christ doth reveal himself unto him and be ashamed of Christ then Christ will deny him before his Father and be ashamed of him