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A76800	The storming of Antichrist, in his two last and strongest garrisons; of compulsion of conscience, and infants babptisme [sic]. Wherein is set down a way and manner for cburch [sic] constitution; together with markes to know right constituted churches, from all other societies in the world. Also the cruelty inequality and injustice of compulsion for conscience, by 29. arguments is opened; with an answer to 26. objections brought for the same. Also 12. arguments against the baptizing of infants; with an answer to 26. objections brought for the same. Wherein is displayed to the view of all, from the testimonies of Scriptures, Fathers, councels; the mischiefs, uncertainties, novelties, and absudities [sic] that do attend the same. Wherein is answered the most valid arguments brought by St. Martiall, in his sermon preached in the Abbey Church at Westminister, for the defence hereof. With an answer to Mr. Blake his arguments, in his book cald Birth-priviledge; and to the arguments of divers others. As also a catechisme, wherein is cleerely opened the doctrine of baptisme, together with a resolution of divers questions and cases of conscience, about baptisme. Written by Ch. Blackwood, out of his earnest desire he hath to a thorow reformation, having formerly seen the mischiefs of half reformations.	Blackwood, Christopher.	1644 (1644)	Wing B3103; Thomason E22_15; ESTC R7842	101,204	126

See Mr. Goodwins Sermon on Acts 5.38 39. wherein sundry persons in one and the same House belong to severall Companies one to the Drapers another to the Mercers 4 Whether is worse A glorious seeming uniformity in a state of self-condemnation or a seeming confusion with a conscientious satisfaction Objection But these persons were good Protestants before this licentiousnesse of conscience was granted Answer 1 Had they beene so before they would have beene so still and are so still 2 If they embraced the truth before it was by accident as a rustie hand of a clock may by accident tell what a clock it is though it stand still and move not 3 It appeares by their change that many of those things they had they had them onely by an implicite faith not from an examination of the ground 2 If they were good before when in an ungrounded uniformity they complied to the common practise without principles or upon unsatisfying principles they are sure better Protestants now when they dare not do things without grounds Objection But should the Magistrate permit this liberty of conscience he should pertake with other men in their sins as the Papists Arminians Brownists c Answer 1 No man pertakes in not restraining any sin when it it is beyond the compasse of his calling now the punishing for heresie is beyond the compasse of a Magistrates calling Tit. 2.10 1 Tim. 1 21 we finde a Heretick after the first or second admonition rejected or almost excommunicated as Hymeneus and Alexander were 2 Whether is not the Magistrate more in danger of pertaking in sin by compelling persons to do things with doubting consciences yea against their consciences And if they do not to be ruined they and their guiltlesse children in their estates Rom 14. ● 22 Or to pertake in sin by leaving men to walk according to that which they think to be the truth Let every man judg● Objection But if such men be suffered to preach such doctrines the number of Hereticks will be so great that they will endanger the Orthodoxe as weeds choak the corn Answer 1 There will be no such danger if there be no persecution for conscience and a Law made for repealing the lawes already made for compulsion 2 Such freedome being granted it s likelier that truth will get ground of errour then errour get ground of truth 3 It is a thing to be questioned whether those that are still in credit with the Magistrate be the Orthodoxe and those that are in discredit be the Hereticks We must imagine that those that make this objection are those that are still in credit with the Magistrate Objection We would willingly suffer the truth to be preacht but those that we prosecute they teach erron●ous doctrines which hazard the souls of men Answer 1 The guilt hereof lies upon the conscience of the Teachers and not upon the Magistrate Matt. 5.19 Whosoever shall teach men so he shall be least in the Kingdome of heaven Heb. 13 7 2 Those that so teach think they teach truth and do but discharge their consciences in so teaching for should they teach otherwise then what they beleeve they should sin 3 Though the truth be but one yet whether is the truth so in the breast of him that hath the power of prosecution that he can infallibly say his tenents are absolute truths ●nd what are different herefrom are erroneous doctrines hazarding the souls of men We see the contrary Acts 4.19 Joh. 16.2 Whosoever killeth you will think he doth good service 4 By this pretence many men serviceable to the Church of God are and have been cut off See J●r 29.26 Hereby Jeroboam 2 Reg. 17.21 ● ave Isra●l from following the L●rd 5 This is the plea tha● all manner of persons in any place or state use for the suppressing of any persons contrary minded as Lutherans Papists c. Therefore it cannot be an infallible rule which is so frequently false and which hath occasioned so much blood of many Saints 6 We must make distinction betwixt erronious doctrines some teach upon the foundation and are more dangerous as some poin●s of Popery Socinianisme c. Some onely are varieties of judgement about smaller matters as the Presbyterian Independent Anabaptist whose difference is principally about order holding Christ for a foundation Against these doubtlesse there can be no exception why they may not be permitted Objection For tender consciences that are truly godly we would willingly suffer them but these men differ from the practise established by Law out of pride and stubbornnesse Answer 1 Because God is the searcher of hearts we ought to think the difference of such mens judgements is out of conscience not out of stubbornnesse till the contrary do evidently appear 2 For the offences of visible pride and stubbornnesse when they shall grow to that height that they trouble the publike peace the Magistrate may doubtlesse punish such in what sect soever Objection But we would willingly permit you your own conscience but we are loth to permit you first to worship God in assemblies secondly to communicate what you beleeve unto others For the Apostle saith hast thou faith Have it to thy self before God Rom. 14. Answer To the former first did not God require assembly-worship and that the Saints should joyn themselves in bodies we could be content to enjoy our own consciences but God requires the same 1 Cor. 14 33. Objection But hereby you get away our good hearers which divers of our Ministers have been the meanes of conversion Answer 1 First for the crown of your Ministers it shall not be the lesse in that they have converted them 2 For your selves you may have the benefit of their prayers and ex●mples as formerly 3 Whether had you rather have them pure in conscience in departing from you according to their principles or to abide with you with wounded consciences To the second branch I answer of communicating what we beleeve unto others though in point of meates and dayes we may have faith to our selves Rom. 14.22 To beleeve in our hearts what is lawfull to eat and observe what not yet doth not this hinder but we must communicate to others what we think to be truth 1 Because Christ hath so commanded Matth. 10.27 What I tell you in darknesse that speak you in light and what ye hear in the eare that preach you upon the house top Obj. But if I do so they will kill me to which Christ saith fear not them that kill the body c. 2. Because the Apostles so practised when a whole Councell had silenced them Acts 4 17.20 We ●annot but speak the things we have seen and heard 1 Joh. 1.2 It s related of Socrates that he would not forbear the declaring of one God though he were sure to die for it How much more should Christians declare the truths of God 3 The persons that do declare those tenents they think to be truths they

baptisme is insufficient For the assumption we have proved before that infants want faith at their baptisme For the propositon it appeares Acts 19.2 3 4 When certain that were not well instucted in christianitie had Baptized some Disciples but had not baptised them into the name of the holy Ghost and its probable by Pauls speech verse 4. that they were not baptised so much as into the Name of Jesus Christ but onely into the name of one God hence their baptisme being defective in beleeving in some of the persons of the Trinity they counted their baptisme not to be sufficient and so had a right baptisme in the Name of the Lord Jesus neither was this a needlesse scruple of Conscience in them for Paul did approve it vers 6. By laying his hands on them How much more then is baptisme of infants insufficient that do not beleeve in any person of the Trinitie Neither let any man say this was a relation of Paul concerning Iohns hearers in the time of Iohns ministery so that this word They must have reference unto those hearers and not a relation of Paul concerning an act done by Iohn it plainly appeares because the Apostle goes on in a continued Historie concerning the Twelve to verse 8. for they that Paul laid his hands on and received the holy Ghost and spake with tongues verse 6. must needs be meant verse 4.5 And whereas those that maintain that Paul vers 4.5.6 relates concerning Iohn and his hearers Contend that imposition of hands and beleeving in Christ are all one the contrary appears Act. 16.17 10 47. Argument 8. The same condition and qualifications are required in persons baptiseable in our daies as were required in times of the Apostles But to have put on Christ to be baptized into Christs death to have the heart sprinkled from an evill conscience to be buried and risen again with Christ to have the answer of a good conscience were th● conditions then required Therefore such conditions and qualifications are required in our dayes The proposition appears because the essentials of the church of Christ are the same in all ages and it s no where said these conditions shall be essentiall requisites to the planting of churches but after churches be planted members shall come in in the faith of their master or parent For the Assumption it appears Rom. 6.3 4. Know you not that so many of us as were baptised into Iesus Christ that is the name doctrine and prof●ssion of Christ the badge of Christianity Christian worship Christian religion were baptised into his death The Apostle speaks of their being dead and buried with Christ as of a thing that was in being at their baptisme when they were baptised into the name and doctrine of Christ Obj. But this was meant onely of those that were brought out of a state of Gentilisme but this doth not hinder but the infants of such were baptised though they were not deemed to have grace Answ The Apostle cuts of all such allegations by these words Know ye not that so many of you as were baptised into Iesus Christ that is the name and profession of Christ were baptised into his death and buried with him by baptisme So Gal. 3.26 27. The Apostle had said vers 26. The Galatians were all the children of God by faith in Christ Iesus he proves it from their baptisme vers 27. For as many as were baptised into Iesus Christ that is his name and doctrine have put on Christ That is all those that were baptised in Galatia into the name doctrine and profession of Christ had put on Christ before baptisme so farre as man could judge else any man might have excepted against the Apostles reason and said this proves not the point for they are others that is to say infants that are baptised into Christ and have not put on Christ So Coloss 2.11 12. The Colossians were not baptised to beleeve in time to come but because it was supposed They had the circumcision made without hands by the spirit Christ vers 11. death buriall and resurrection with Christ vers 12. Also faith of the operation of God Now how could this be said of infants So Heb. 10.22 Let us draw near with a true heart in full assurance of faith having our hearts sprinkled from an evill conscience and our bodies washt with pure water Divines interpret this washing of our bodies of the washing in baptisme And Estius upon the place saith its the common exposition as well of the Greeks as of the Latins to understand it of the Sacrament of Baptism which must needs be meant because he names the body for if he would not have named something that he had not named before he would not have called it body but soul and have said having your soul washed with pure water but he had spoke before of the soul in these words having our hearts sprinkled from an evill conscience therefore he must needs speak of such a washing as respects the body as it is a body which can be no other then the water of baptisme Which things being so we see what kinde of persons are baptised Those that had their hearts sprinkled from an evill conscience and had faith to draw nearer in assurance to God So 1 Pet 2 21. The like figure whereunto Baptisme doth now save us not the putting away of the filth o● the flesh but the answer of a good conscience towards God 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 In the Greek the interrogation of a good conscience when the conscience is so purged that God hath nothing against it to condemne it it can interrogate God what he hath against it Which shews in Peters time who were the subjects of baptisme Even such as were deemed to have purged conscienc●s Hence Tertullian in his book of repentance faith that washing of baptisme is the seal of faith which faith is begun and c●mmended from the faith repentance for we are not therefore washed that we may cease to sin but because we have ceased because we are now washed in heart So that we see what qualifications were in the Apostles time and afterwards to a right receiving of baptisme and are to continue as a rule for all churches Argum. 9. That tenent which brings mischiefs to the churches and the contrary practise benefits the practising of the one is unlawfull and the contrary practise required But the baptisme of infants brings mischiefs to the churches and the delaying baptisme till persons beleeve brings benefit Therefore the practising of infants baptisme is unlawfull and the contrary practise required The proposition is undoubted the assumption hath two branches 1 That infants baptisme brings mischiefs 2 That the delaying baptisme til persons beleeve brings benefits I will show the mischiefs which infants baptisme brings 1 It fils the Church with rotten members Such persons in following times growing up prove often wicked and many of them onely civill men we know not how to get

disciples were sensible of this and therefore they onely are meant Now that infants are not disciples first because a disciple in English is a scholler now what can infants learn 〈◊〉 57 ●●ar● an●● Austin saith Infants to know divine things that have not yet known humane things if in words we would show I fear we may seem to offer injury to our sences when by speaking we perswade it Those that go about to make infants schollers or disciples they do not only lose their pains but expose themselves to laughter 2. The very commission showes what kinde of disciples Christ meant in these words teaching them 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 which must agree with 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 not 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 to observe all things that I have commanded them but this cannot infants do therefore infants must needs be excluded from being any of the disciples here meant 5. Exception Christ saith baptise all nations but children are part of the nation therefore they may be baptised Answ In the proposition there is a fallacie of division whereby one conjoyned proposition is divided into two pieces As a certain Atheist that would prove out of Scripture there was no God for which he alleged the 14. Psal vers 1. where it is said there is no God but he left out the foregoing words the foole hath said in his heart So here Christ saith baptise all nations but he conjoynes with it make disciples all nations Mr M. pag. 14. which the objector here left out 6. Exception Is this of Mat. 28.9 is onely an enlargement of their commission that whereas before they were to go to the lost sheep of the house of Israel now they were to go into all the world Mat. 10.1 Answ This going to the lost Sheep of the house of Israel was onely to preach and to confirm their doctrine with miracles as healing the sick cleansing Lepers raising the dead c. there was not a tittle about baptising as appears Mat. 10.1 to 16. Mar. 3.15 16 7. Luk. 9.1 2 3 4. and the 70. had the same commission Luk. 10.1 2 3. besides Christ gives a commission here that hath not miracles annext as that had but is to remain to the end of the world 2. These commissions differ in respect of persons and place that commission was onely from Judea this was for all nations that was to preach to Judea this to preach to all nations and to baptise those that should believe the things spoken to be true 3. If this were an enlargement of Christs former commission in that make disciples all nations baptising them is put in yet are Ministers and christians tied to observe the enlargement of the commission in the very manner and form as well as any former commission because Christ saith Teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded them 4. Here is a full commission with all its causes As first efficient All power is given me c. Secondly the form and immediate call Go ye therefore Thirdly the mater teaching the nations and baptising the disciples Fourthly the end exprest by the effect that they may keep all things commanded 5. The effect and behold I am with you to the worlds end and upon no other condition 3. The Bap●isme of Christ is the Baptisme of actuall repentance The Baptisme of Infants is not the Baptisme of actuall repentance Therefore the Baptisme of infants is not the Baptisme of Christ The proposition appeares that the Baptisme of Chirist is the Baptisme of actuall repentance Acts 2.38 Repent and be Baptized every one of you as if he should say first repent then be baptised Matth 3.6 Iohn was Baptising in Iordan those that confessed their sins but when he saw the Pharisees and Saduces come to his Baptisme he said O generation of vipers who hath forewarned you to fly from the wrath to come and would not Baptise them as appeares Luke 7.30 Now for the assumption the Baptisme of infants is not Baptisme of actuall repentance There is no shame sorrow hatred of sin in them Besides these that baptize Infants for repentance in time to come they make two Baptismes one of the repentance of Infants for time to come and the other of the repentance of growne persons contrary to the Scriptures that saith ther 's one Baptisme Ephes 4 5. 4. The Baptisme of Christ requires faith as an inseparable condition or qualification to the right receiving of it without which it ought not to be administred But the Baptisme of infants doth not require faith as an inseparable condition or qualification Therefore the Baptisme of Infants is not the Baptisme of Christ The proposition appeares 1. From Scripture which tels us that Christs Baptsme requires faith as an inseparable condition Mar. 16.16 Go preach the Gospell to every creature whosoever beleeueth and is Baptized shall be saved as if he should say among creatures where the Gospell is preached none are to be Baptised but he that beleeveth for where beleevers are commanded to be Baptised unbeleevers are forbid under an Affirmative command the negative is included Acts 8.37 Here is water what doth hinder me from being Baptized Philip answeres if thou beleevest it is lawfull for the Greek word onely signifies as if he should say 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Nor thee to be Baptized if thou ●ost not beleeve it is not lawfull neither for thee nor me for me to Baptise thee Acts. 8.12 When the Samaritanes beleeved Philip preaching the things of God and the name of Iesus Christ they were Baptised both men and women When were they baptised when they beleeved not till then Object But it s said Simon was Baptised and yet hee was an unbeleever Answ It is said expressely that Simon beleeved also with whose profession Philip was satisfied for neither Officers nor church can look into mens hearts whether they prof●sse in truth but charity teacheth us to judge they speak in truth especially if the profession of life condemns not the profesion of word could we look into the heart none were to have this Seale or Signe save justified persons The assumption is the Baptisme of infants doth not require faith as an inseparable condition appeares in that it is maintained by some that the faith of the Godfathers by others the faith of the whole church others the parents faith others the faith of Abraham will serve the turne though they have no faith of their own yea most maintain that they may be Baptised though they have no faith Object But Infants have faith for Ieremy was Sanctified from the wombe Ier. 1.5 Answ 1. The Hebrew word signifies to separate as well as to Sanctifie so it s the same with Gal. 1.15 Paul saith God that separated me from my mothers wombe so Esay 13.3 Christ and his Souldiers are called Gods Sanctified ones Object But t is said of Iohn Baptist Luke 1.15 He shall be filled with the holy

Ghost from his mothers wombe Answ I answer with Augustine neither do I countenance that which is done in Iohn nor thence do I fasten a rule what should be thought of infants Mirabili●● yea I do wonderfully or miraculously publish ●hat in him because I finde it not in others Aug. Epist 57. 2. Had we any extraordinary testimony by an Angel that this or that infant were filled with the holy Ghost from the womb then should we incline the more to baptise them Thirdly all that can be deduced hence is that there is power in God to give the holy Ghost to an infant in a miraculous way yet doth it not appear that Iohn was filled with the holy Ghost by beleeving That he was filled with the holy Ghost from the womb is certain because the word sets it down but for the manner how this was done is uncertain because the word sets it not down We may as well reason that because Enoch and Eliah were translated into heaven other men are so to 3. Object We cannot except any from having faith therefore we baptise all Answ First we except against all from having faith in their infancy because they have not so much as understanding now faith is as well an act of the understanding as of the will 2. In dispensation of this ordinance we must have ground of accepting persons as fit subjects before we can dispence it Acts 8.38 which cannot in an ordinary way be affirmed of infants 3. It appears that all infants wants faith For the proof whereof Downes on Iust●f●cation I will give sundry reasons published long ago by a Divine not interested in this cause who ex professo took upon him to handle this question 1 They have no knowledge of good nor evill Deut. 1.39 Cannot discern betw●xt the right hand and left Jon. 4.11 How then can they understand those things that are above the pitch of nature 2 The dislike that infants have at baptisme testified by their crying and other motion of body had they actuall faith they would endure all with much patience but if in doing so they go against their knowledge the Sacrament is so far from benefitting of them that by their reluctation they contract a further guilt 3 If they have faith why are they not after the imitation by baptisme forthwith ad●itted to the Lords Supper As they were from Augustines time to the times of L●dovious Pitts and Lotharius a matter of 600 years nay why are they not rather admitted then those of riper years for infants ●ave not so much as evill thoughts in them 4 Because not so much as any one of them among so many millions as hav● been in the world when he commeth to riper years giveth any testimony of his faith till he be further taught and instructed If a childe born of christian parents and entered into a visible Church by baptisme shall yet while he is in his tender years fall into the hands of Turkes as many thousand have done the whole band of Janizaries as some say consists of no other doth he not readily receive that religion which is first instild into him without dreaming of the Cristian faith Which yet how it should be having from his first infancie been seasoned and sanctified in the Christian faith cannot easily be conceived or imagined 5 Do all that have received faith in infancy lose it again when they come to be of more years It seemeth so if they received it for otherwise why are they put to their catechisme and taught the Elements of faith again But this were a strange course For how should they lose it unlesse perhaps God secretly steale that from them which in time past he gave them which to say is very derogatory to the bounty of God who never withdrawes favour once given untill man by abusing of it have deserved to lose it Not losing it therefore and yet learning it when they come to yeares of capacitie it is a plain argument they never received it in their infancy 6 All habits whether acquired by custome or infused from above make a man more apt and prone unto their proper actions For example whosoever is possessed of the vertues of Justice Temperance Liberality Fortitude will readily do justly temperately liberally valiantly it being the nature of habits to make easie their actions Are now the children of Christians when they come first to bee instructed are more capable of Christian Relgion or more inclineable to holy actions then the children of Infidels experience tells they are not but are as wax indifferently flexible any way It s absurde therefore and void of reason to place in infants the habit of faith which yet inclines them no more to the acts of faith then those that are without it ●om 10. ● 7. Faith comes by hearing but infants hear not neither by the eare nor by any other way proportionable thereto or if they do they understand not what they heare for did they understand I pr●sume they would hearken more attentively unto what is said then we see they do Wherefore not hearing neither do they beleeve If you say they beleeve by an inward hearing then is that faith wrought either by ordinary or extraordinarie meanes not by extraordinary meanes for it is done every day and hour by ordinary therefore If so then have we a double manner of working faith and both of them ordinary the one by inward hearing in infants onely the other by inward and outward also in those that are adult which is a meere noveltie in the church of God haec ille To conclude the point August contra Donatisas l 4. c. 24. saith Baptised infants cannot as yet believe with the heart unto righteousnesse and confesse with the mouth unto Salvation Also Chemnic Deer Conc. Trid. pars 2. exam Can. 13. p. 89. saith I truely that love simplicity do not understad nor can unfold after what manner that infants that are baptized do beleeve Object But though infants have not actuall faith yet they have Seminall faith Answ This is a vaine distinction For 1. There is but one faith Epes 4. consisting in taking and relying on Christ if we understand justifying faith and one profession of faith which metonimically is called faith and goeth currant for saith in all Ecclesiasticall Dispensations when the profession of life condemnes not the profession of words 1 Pet. 23. Borne again of immortall seed 2. There can be no such thing as Seminall faith in infants because the first feed of faith is illumination of which infants are not capable because voide of understanding This word Seminall doth merely delude men by the Metaphoricall acception to make men think there is a phisickall grouth of faith as in seeds of vegitive bodies when they are sowen when the growth is Metaphisicall and onely in reasonable soules who are fit subjects thereof Obj●ct But if infants have not faith how can they please God and how are they saved Heb.

heard or else if they refused then banishment and imprisonment followed or some such punishment witnesse the banishment of Molerus from Wittemburge and Zanch● from Strasburge and many others 5 There is no promise that all the Protestant churches shall be kept from errour from the time of Luther or Calvin or that they shall come into a state of perfection all at once either in point of doctrine or discipline we tax it as a brand of Roome to hold the church cannot erre and we by the same position shall cast our selves upon a desperate rock of never amending what is amisse Object 26. There are many mischiefes goe along with it and therefore we ought to abandon this Doctrine of not baptizing infants 1 There will be a wide doore set open to heathenisme for a great part of the world will in time become heathens seeing many that goe for Christians pertake of nothing in christianitie but their baptisme Answ 1. This will be no damage but benefit to christianity in that many that live the lives of heathens under the name of Christians will be discovered and seeme as they are so the name of God will be kept from blaspheming by these whose infant baptisme saith they are Christians when they are only artificiall christians 2 This will overthrow parishes or Parochiall churches Answ True and I thinke it comes neerer the Apostolicall institutions wherein calling out of the world by beleeving and repenting did make a person capable of baptisme Tho●ndi●e of the primit●v gov●●nment of c●u●c●es pag. 16. 17 and so to become a member of a church not onely the Apostles but after them Apost●licall men went to chiefe cities and preacht there and those in the city and in the adjoyning parts that came to heare having their hearts opened became a church It s plaine saith one the Apostles could not bestow their paines on all places hence reason required they should labour most to plant the faith in the most populous places and common sence and the least knowledge of times will serve to show that from thence it was propagated through the countries that lay to those cities halfe the citie of Rome were not christians in Cyprians time which was long after the Apostles For the division of parishes it is but of late standing in the depth of Antichrists mists in which blinde times it s very improbable that the multitude of men and women were fit matter for a Church I fear me this parochiall constitution and the large tithes that doe accompany it are one of the greatest objectons that hinder the passage of this truth 3 Though this were truth yet it s now unseasonable when there are so many divisions Answ It is most seasonable now had it come at any other time an Episcopall or presbiteriall power might have crushed it there were never more times of likelihood then when men are upon such a generall enquiry for truth and each man gives his reasons for his dissent from others practise truth is never unseasonable I will conclude this with a saying of A ●brose ad Theodosium Augustum lib. 5. epist. 29. tom 3. pag. 109 nihil in sacerdote c. There is nothing in a priest or presbiter so dangerous with God so filthy with men then not freely to speake what he thinks seeing that it is written I spake of thy testimonies before Kings and was not confounded 4 That such persons as hold this are going into deeper errours and that this is but the entrance and that God gives up such persons every where to dangerous opinions Answ This is but one of Satans old juglings no disparagement to our accusers I know most that I have been acquainted with are as sound in the faith as our accusers free from Socinianisme familisme Popery Arminianisme or any other doctrine which is unsound as our accusers that do accuse us and shall be ready to give a confession of our faith if we shall be duely called thereunto wherein we shall confesse what we hold in opposition to the fore named errours 5 It is against charity in making schisme in the Church Answ How is it possible ever to recover the soules of men out of this will worship but by dividing from the common practise 2. Christ and his disciples were not schismaticks in keeping his passeover two daies different from the received practise of the Jewish Church God commanded Num. 9.3 That it should be kept in the 14. day of the first moneth in the appointed season and the Jewish teachers and people put it off to the 16. day as appears because the day Christ was crucified on was the day after his passeover Mat. 20.19.20 compared with John 18.28 But the day he was crucified on was the day before the passeover as appeares Iohn 18.28.19 14. No more are we Schismatikes keeping to the rule though the generality of men practise otherwise 3. With Luther I say potius quam aliquid discedat gloriae dei oceidat non solem pax sed etiam Coelum terra rather then any thing depart from the glory of God let not onely peace but heaven and earth fall A briefe CATECHISME Concerning BAPTJSME Drawne from the preceding Disputation Question WHat is the English word of Baptisme Answer Dipping or Washing by dipping never doth it signifie Sprinkling Quest. What is this Sacrament of Baptisme or dipping a signe or seal of Answ It is a signe of my death and burying and resurrection with Christ Rom. 6.3 4. of my putting on of Christ Gal. 3.27 and that as by water I put away the filth of my flesh So have I the answer of a good conscience by the death and resurrection of Christ 1 Pet. 3.21 Quest Whether is Baptisme a signe of grace to be wrought in future or of grace already wrought Answ Or both 1. Of grace already wrought Heb. 10.22 Let us draw neer in full assurance having our heart sprinkled from an evill conscience and our bodies washt with pure water Col. 2.12 Buried with him in baptisme wherein you have risen again 2. Of grace to be further wrought Rom. 6.4 That Christ will give us strength to walke in newnesse of life Quest. Who are fit subjects for Baptisme Answ Onely such as beleeve Acts 8.12 37 16 34 18 8. Mat. 28.19 and such as repent Acts 2.38 Mat. 3.6 Quest Why are not infants fit subjects of Baptisme Answ Because they do not beleeve nor can give any church any true grounds upon which the Minister can administer the Ordinance neither are they in Christs Commission and therefore are excluded Quest Whether do you thinke it would be better for persons to have Baptisme deferred till they be able to make profession of their faith Answ Yes it would be far better for hereby the churches would have a right matter that is Saints in profession and persons would be carefull to get knowledge and holinesse whereas now they are carelesse of of both Quest. What mischiefe and hurt comes by infants

Baptisme Answ It brings many mischiefes besides that it fils the Churches with rotten Members and confounds the world and the Church together it is a groundworke for more traditions and doth so darken the doctrine of Baptisme that we cannot know the true meaning of it when we read of Baptisme in the Scriptures yea hereby many are taken into communion in baptisme who are excluded from communion in the supper whereas the communion in both is one and the same Quest How do you prove that there is but one Communion in baptisme and in the Supper Answ Because there is the same thing signified in baptisme that there is in the supper that is to say our fellowship with Christ in his death and resurrection So that all that are baptized into one body are all made to drinke into one spirit 1 Cor. 12.13 and the same preparations of faith and repentance that are required for the one are also required for the other and he that is cast out of the one is cast out of the other seeing that by excommunication hee becomes like an Heathen or a Publicane Quest But what if an infant or any other in their childehood should die unbaptized are they not damned Answ We know nothing out of the Scriptures of their salvation or damnation and therefore we must not be too inquisitive yet may such infants so dying be saved through the presentment of the satisfaction of Christ Rom. 5.18 to the justice of God for originall sin which satisfaction though it be applied through beleeving in those that can beleeve yet may it be applied without in those that cannot beleeve for else how could any infants be saved Quest Do you thinke infants have no faith Answ Yes they have not faith for they have not reason to discerne betwixt good and evill Deut. 1.39 If they had faith they were presently to be admitted to the supper Faith is an act of understanding which comme●h by hearing as well as an act of the will Quest What grounds have you against infants baptisme Answ Many but chiefly Christs commission Mat. 28.19 Where the subjects of baptisme are those that are made Disciples and this commission is to last to the worlds end vers 20. and reaches to every creature that is to partake of baptisme Mark 16.15 16. Quest Is it not lawfull to baptize persons without they beleeve Answ No Acts 8.37 If thou beleevest it is lawfull Acts 10.47 and 16.34 and 8.12 and 18.8 Quest But may we not be baptized if we be ABRAMS seed Answ Yes but we gentiles are onely Abrams seed by beleeving Gal. 3.7 Know ye therefore that they which are of the faith are the children of Abraham so Rom. 4.16 Gal. 3.29 Quest But what think you of them that would make the children of beleevers to be the seed of Abraham Answ They are mistaken for the scripture speakes onely of three seedes of Abraham that is Christ Gal. 3.16 He saith not to seeds as of many but as of one and to thy seed which is Christ 2. the carnall Jew 3. the bel●ever of Jew and Gentile Gal. 3.28 and they adde a fourth seed of Abraham viz. The seed or children of beleevers among the Gentiles about which the scripture is silent Quest But are not the children of Godly persons visibly in the covenant of grace Answ No the covenant of grace is an invisible thing and we cannot know who are in it nor have we grounds to judge persons are in it till we see some profession of holy life and profession of faith and repentance which infants cannot make Quest What is circumcision Answ It was an obligation to keep the whole Law Gal. 5.3 Rom. 2.24 and shewed unto them that it was their duties to circumcise their hearts Ier. 4.4 Quest. Whether was it not also a seale of the righteousnesse of faith Rom. 4.11 Answ Yes to Abraham onely and if Abrahams beleeving children among the Gentiles should be baptized as he was circumcised then must it not be till they have the righteosnesse of faith as Abraham here had at least they must have it in profession Quest Whether doth Baptisme succeed Circumcision in the same Office Answ No Circumcision was to every Male though reprobate but baptisme onely to the beleever Mat. 28.19 There being a change of the visible Church and of the Ordinances this cannot succeed in room therof nor hath any dependance thereon Quest Whether may not infants of beleevers be baptized by vertue of a covenant holinesse Answ No for baptisme is not a signe or seal of any such outward holynes which may befall reprobates as well as Elect but it is a signe of death Buriall and Resurrection which the beleever hath with Christ 2. There is no command for baptizing such if the Gentiles were so holy which yet is not proved Quest Whether is infants baptisme forbid in Scripture Answ Yes where will-worship is forbid Levit. 10.1 As they that were not in the Circumcision of Circumcision were excluded because they were not exprest as the males and females of Heathen So is it in Christs Commission about Baptisme they that are not exprest in it are excluded from it But now to answer to questions or cases of conscience about this point Quest WHether is it lawfull for a person that is convicted of the unlawfulnesse of Infants baptisme or doubteth thereof to be present at it Answ No in no wise for these reasons 1 Because the inward man and outward man must not bee divided in worship 1 Cor. 6.20 Glorifie God both with body and spirit which are his It s grosse hypocrisie when the outward man is at a worship which the heart doth not love 2 Because by our presence at such a worship we strengthen and embolden others at a false worship wiles they look on us as those that worship the same kinde of worship 1 Cor. 8.10 If any man see thee which hast knowledge fit at meat in the Idols temple shall not the conscience of him which is weak be imbouldened to eat those things which are offred to Idols 3 Because the person that is present at such a worship is not able to make any apologie to God why hee or she is present at such a worship in bodily presence though he or she reserve their hearts to God As a mans wife that is taken in an adulterous bed with another man can give no excuse for her presenting her body there though she say she keep her heart and affection to her husband 4 Because in false worship we are not so much as to touch the unclean thing 2 Cor. 6.17 Come out from among them and touch not the unclean thing Now this being an unclean thing in my conscience I cannot nor must not touch it any way neither with my affection nor with my bodily presence but that as soon at any preacher begins to pray for any such thing I must instantly depart though it be in his prayer after his Sermon 5 Because