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A50259 A novelty: or, a government of vvomen distinct from men, erected amoungst some of the people, call'd Quakers. Detected in an epistle, occasionally written to a man-judge, upon a young man's refusing (for good conscience sake) to submit to their authority in marriage, seeing that relations and friends were already satisfied. To which is added, a lamentation for the fall of so many of that people. Published for no other end, but to deter all honest hearts of the said people, from erecting the like unscriptural government. Tho' this may not so far prevail with such women as has a secret command of their husbands purses; together with those preachers that reap profit by such a female government, as to consent to the disanulling the same. Written by William Mather, a dear lover of the said people, who has for several years been much troubled, that some of them should fall from there primitive institution, as to set up women's and men's meetings, as guides in government, ... . Mather, W. (William), fl. 1695. 1694 (1694) Wing M1284C; ESTC R221850 22,580 23

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a Man's amendment is to desire his good Answ True But had the young Man any fault besides his non submission to a Female Government T. H. A Scoff not solid enough for one professing Truth Answ What because I desired thee to let me know how the Women Judges did to bear it that a young Man could not own their Authority T. H. It s well they do some good meaning the Women Judges Answ That is their Gists to the Poor yea its good in rich Widows and also in married Women when their Husbands are uncapable to do it themselves and if that 's all the good they do they had better lay down their Authority and not leave their business Monthly and Quarterly to no purpose T. H. It s well thou hast so much Charity cherish it and it may grow Answ Thou praises me for my Charity in not desiring to ●●ir up Wrath or Choler in thee but my Charity extends further for I have all along been very free to entertain any of your formal Preachers rejoyeing at the exaltation of Christ's Grace in each Soul when they declare the power and virtue thereof in this dark Town of Bedford but if they build up with one hand and throw down with the other hand by setting up other Guides besides Christ's Grace they are returned into Babylon But to the great grief of my Soul I find that most of such Teachers are for Preaching chiefly to such People as do already witness their true Teacher in themselves when our dear Saviour respected neither Time or Places who did instruct the People where they were most Congregated together And those he now sends forth would certainly be of the same mind if his good Spirit was their Guide If you are not for the Exaltation of Men Judges why was there about 10 Preachers at one Meeting in Huntington lately to the grief of some because Geo. Whitehead was there that day T. H. I know not any such imposers amongst us but submission to the Coun●●… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is good Answ I admire thy Confidence to say Thou knowest no such Imposers amongst you Can you inflict greater punishment upon a Non-Conformist to Women Counsel than to tell their Friends such are Libertines Atheists and not of God Could ever any Imposers go further Except they had power to cast into Prison What is more dear to a Man than a good Name as to this World And I further ask thee Whether there be any other Truth besides the Grace of God in our own Hearts which we are to submit to T. H. Opinions are too numerous Truth is one in all Answ If my Opinion in advising thee and thy Brethren in the Letter above to come to that good Order or Practice of Friends as in the beginning was not according to the Truth or Grace of God why didst thou not disprove it in this thy pretended Answer And as Truth is one in all as thou sayest Why do you Judge it in others But rather leave every one to stand or fall as they obey it and if any disobey the Truth or Grace in themselves you that are Spiritual should tell them of it but force by scandalizing the Disobedient is not the way to win them to Obedience to the Truth in themselves T. H. Look into Bedfordshire Paper of Prescription for Order and there thou may find good Advice many Years since Answ I know nothing of what 's in it But if any Persons has taken upon themselves to draw Prescriptions or Orders contrary to the Holy Scriptures as a Bond upon all others to obey the same that 's nothing to me I am not to follow a Multitude into Innovations Our Preachers has already told us That God's Grace in each Soul is to be the only Leader into all Truth which through God's great Love is witnessed to be so So that if they are gone from that and design to exalt themselves as Guides we know better things therefore it is more safer to follow our true and inward Teacher than weak Man who is so apt to degenerate from their Primitive Institution T. H. Friend William Mather my Advice to thee for Truth sake is be still and quiet Answ Who can hold their peace while Women and Men-Judges exalt themselves in Authority above all that is called good in the Innocent and while you have your Formal Preachers or 〈◊〉 to travel through the Nation whispering into the Ears of poor people that such and such Persons are fallen from the Truth when in reality you can find no fault in them but their Non-conformity to a Female Government c. T. H. And what it is in thee that Judgeth others Answ As I hear I Judge Now every Man ought to compare the Doctrine of that Age wherein he lives with no other Doctrine than that which was out of all question spotless which is the Doctrine of the Apostles W. S. Ad. to Protestants p. 162. T. H. I love not Controversie but Peace and Truth and desire therein to grow Answ Neither do I love Controversie my labour only is that all may lay down their honour at the Foot-stool of Christ's Grace T. H. Our Labour and Travail in attending our Monthly and Quarterly Meetings is to preserve and keep and bring into Order Christ's Spiritual Government Answ Who was it first that put poor Innocent VVomen upon Travail several Miles Monthly and Quarterly was it not Ambitious Men If thou wast not ashamed of their Authority sure thou wouldest have given me one Scripture proof for it if thou could Dost thou think that the VVisdom of VVomen or Men can bring in Order Christ's Spiritual Government No no It 's his Spirit that can only do it T. H. That all may be preserved out of Miscarriages you set up this Government and the precious Truth set over all Answ That Christ the precious Truth may be set over all is all that I labour for If over all then over all your Meetings of Government Can any thing preserve out of Miscarriages besides God's Grace the precious Truth VVhat is there never a Spiritual-minded Man or VVoman in a Reli●●ous Meeting that sees a Fault in another that cannot tell the party thereof privately at the end of the Meeting or go to their 〈◊〉 to tell them 〈◊〉 Matt. 18. but must Summon him or her to 〈◊〉 little private Meeting Monthly I know not how many Miles off their Dwe●●ings T. H. Wait in God's Fear to know thy self Answ I praise God he has kept me in his Fear from my Childhood and have so far denyed self that I could not enter into Self-Exaltation by joyning with your Authority in Government though I have been often invited so to do So that many of you that have Reigned so long scorn to be told of your Arbitrary proceedings yea he that shall but tell you how you err you will account him an Imposer though the Name most properly belong to you as I have before proved it Good God! Can we put no Trust in Man Hast not thou raised up one Religious Society after another who begun well whilest they took Counsel only of thy good Spirit in their Hearts kept their first Love But it s greatly to be lamented to behold most Societies choose other Governours besides Thy Spirit and so come to divide in about Thirty Years after thou hast raised them O Lord I pray Thee look upon this People with an Eye of pity to whom thou hast given large gifts turn their hearts to Thy Grace more and more that they may no longer take Glory to themselves and pride themselves with thy Jewels that another People take not their Crowns for thy dear Son's sake To whom be all Honour c. FINIS