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A54060 Some queries concerning the order and government of the church of Christ Penington, Isaac, 1616-1679. 1663 (1663) Wing P1199; ESTC R23175 10,737 17

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and it is not a turning from the measure but a subjecting to the Lord in the measure of his Life so to teach and do The measure of his Life taught me thus to do at first and teacheth me to do so still and will teach so still all that hearken to it It did not teach subjection in the Apostles dayes to the Ministry then and another thing now to the Ministry now But Christ is the same to day as yesterday his Life the same his Spirit the same its Doctrine and Teaching the same and that of God in the Conscience within answers the pure Voice when it comes to the Ear without If Life speak in one Vessel and its voice be not heard or owned by another Vessel the pure Ear in that other Vessel is not at that time open but there is somewhat there that obstructs And if the pure Ear of the Sheep be not open to hear the Voice of the Shepherd but it be accounted strange it is much if the other Ear in that Vessel be not opened to hear the Voice of the Stranger and to look upon it as the Voice of the Shepherd it agreeing with that and answering to that which now goeth for the Voice of the Measure of Life in that Heart He that hath an ear let him hear for it is easie being taken in this snare and the danger thereof is very great Object 2. Is not the least measure of Life in any vessel if subjected to waited on and believed in sufficient to instruct and build up into a perfect man in God Answ The sufficiency of the Grace of God turned to and waited upon there is nothing in my heart either to undervalue my self or to teach others so to do Nor when God did appoint a Ministry to gather and build up his Church do I believe he did intend therein to undervalue the sufficiency of his Grace Yea I verily believe that the Grace of God turned and hearkened to and followed by any Soul in the darkest part of the Earth hath sufficiency in it to save and will save that Soul though there be none outwardly to minister to it or help it Yet this I also believe That as there is a sufficiency in every measure of life to the Work God hath appointed for that measure so there is a greater sufficiency in the growth and fuller proportion of Life and the lesser the weaker the poor the afflicted the babes are to be helped by the stronger especially in their darknesses afflictions temptations c. And so the greater and stronger in the Life Spirit and Power of the Lord is a strength and blessing to the weaker which the weaker making use of in the guidance of the Spirit of the Lord in the sence and benefit of the sweet help and relief which often the Lord pleaseth to give forth thereby will find just cause and be often drawn to blesse the Name of the Lord for The measure of Life in the Vessel teacheth to subject to the Spirit of the Lord and his Life in others which the measure of Life in any never refuseth but still knoweth when awake and living in the Vessel its own and hath at least a secret sense of it and unity with it But that which pretends to set up the measure of Life as a Teacher otherwise than God hath appointed and in opposition to the Teaching and Ministry which he hath appointed and to his Gift in those Vessels which is as well for the building up and perfecting of the Body as for the gathering That is another thing in that Vessel that doth so than the measure of Life another Spirit another Nature another Ear than that that first heard And though it seem to cry up the sufficiency of the measure of Life and to plead for that and perhaps the creature thinks it is really so yet that is not the intent of the Spirit in the Vessel but to cry up it self and to make its voice go for the Voice of the Measure of Life and so such err from the Faith the Truth the Spirit the measure of Life and are in the nature spirit and measure of another thing which is indeed Death though they see it not but look upon themselves as gloriously living and abiding in the pure Doctrine and Principle above others Now to help these a little out of the snares and deep entanglements of the Enemy if the Lord please I would earnestly press the consideration of this upon them Did not the Apostles preach up the Measure of Life the Grace of God in their day Christ within the Word of Faith nigh in the mouth and heart the Anointing within its sufficiency to teach all things c. and yet did they so preach it as to overthrow the Ministry or their Gifts or Service either towards them that were without or them that were within Had they not power over them in the Lord were they not to teach them to instruct them to build them up in the holy Faith and also to watch against Wolves and devouring Spirits which would strive to enter the Flock in Sheeps clothing and as Preachers of Righteousness to make a prey of the Innocent Life in the Upright-hearted if possible Object 3. But those who have ministred from the Lord and whose Ministry I have felt and owned and in the distress and affliction of my soul have had recourse to hoping that they might have a sense of my condition and give me proper advice yet they instead thereof have turned me to his Witness that wounded me counselling me to wait on the Lord there and have they not also told us That if they themselves should turn from the things they have declared this Truth would abide for ever to wit that man is to keep to the measure of Life in his own particular Answ It is true A man is to keep to the Measure of Life in his own particular They taught this then they teach it now We practised it then we are to practise it now In this Measure of Life we received them then and in this Measure of Life if we abide still in it we shall receive them now and feel their growth in the Ability Gift and Power of the Lord. And when any come to them for advice they are to wait on the Lord to feel in him their state who come and to give forth what the Lord gives them Whether word● from the Lord to the party concerning his state of dire●●●ons to retire in and wait for his more immediate appearance in their own measures For when we feel ●●e Presence and mighty Power of God in them we 〈◊〉 too apt to look at them and then a word may come proper to our estates to recall us to retire to our measure And when we feel immediate relief from the Lord and his appearing to us in our retiredness in our own spirits then we may be apt to despise the gifts and service of others and then