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A89850	Satans design discovered: vvho under a pretence of worshipping Christs person in heaven, would exclude God and Christ, the spirit and light, out of the world: and that he should no more dwell in his people as he hath done, till Doomsday, that so he might rule in the hearts of men and women, unrevealed, while the world endures, onely under the name of God and Christ, talked of at a distance, that he may rule in the creation, exalted above God. Clearly laid open in an answer to Thomas Moor, who calls his book an Antidote against the spreading infections, &c. Wherein is discovered the crooked ways the winding Serpent takes to save his head, and reproach the truth with lies, that by any means he might make people believe that a lying spirit is among the Quakers, but is found within him. With 48. lies, taken out from three times as many, and sent back to be proved by the founder of them, T.M. Also some particulars, what the Quakers holds ... / By a servant to truth, called James Nayler.	Naylor, James, 1617?-1660.	1655 (1655)	Wing N313; Thomason E857_6; ESTC R202989	34,304	48

must leave behind them taking the same flesh and bones but not the same bloud But such confused work makes the Serpent when he would be preaching things which are hid from him It were bettet for thee and many such like to come down out of the Chambers of your Imaginations and sit at the seet of Christ and own the teaching of his Spirit and his Light that so thou may know what the bloud of Christ is from him by its effects then to stand teaching others thou knowest not what Come down into the dust and stop thy mouth thou vain Babler and exercise not thy self in things too high for thee and if ever thou come to know any thing of the Kingdome thou wilt see thy self shut out among the Pharisees and Sadduces who was jangling about the Resurrection with the Spirit of the Devil in them denying his Testimony Light and Spirit who is the Resurrection and lived out of his Doctrine as thou may read Mat. 23. And read thy self therein with the Light thou opposest only this difference they looked for him to come and thou sayst he is gone and not come again but neither of you own him present to judge rule and guide you So thy wayes is as far from his Doctrine and Practice as theirs was if not further though thou have got more words so greater condemnation And thou tellest much what need we have of Christ in the Heavens but didst thou know thy condition thou would'st see as much need of him here also to guide thee out of the World and these Pharisaical wayes For who hath him not with them to lead out of the World and give victory here will finde little benefit by his being in Heaven and this thou and many more will know when he comes to Judgment who little mind his fellowship here but joyn with the Enemy to preach him out of the World because he beareth Witness that the deeds thereof are evil so by this the Devil gets his work done in Earth preaching of a Christ in Heaven and the Creature knowes none to redeem from it no nearer then after death Thou sayst none yet hath ceased from their own workes I say none that are in thy workes have who is pleading for sinne and denying the Spirit of GOD to work in thee thou must needes be in thy own workes but what is that in thee that judgeth all other and yet denyest Christ in thee that is the Lyar from the beginning and by the Spirit of God which worketh in me in which is my Rest do I bear Witness against him so to be and a thousand in the Nation that can witness the same who are brought to Rest in his everlasting Work and will But this no Hireling knowes nor can judge of though you may read of that condition in the Letter Thou accusest me for belying the Apostle in saying he preached the Word Faith in the heart Rom. 10. I say let read any the 8. 9. Verses of that Chapter who knowes either Word or Faith or Words of the Letter and judge if the Apostle there did not preach both Word and Faith in the Heart and so let the Lye return into the bosome of the Lyar from whence it came Thou sayst God did not impute the Trespasses of the World to them but caused them to meet together on him I say if God impute not sinne to the World nothing else can condemn them this opens a large gap to the Workes thou art pleading for but were thou not blind thou mayst see the Apostle speakes of such as received the Word of Reconciliation but for the rest you shall know that sinne will be imputed where it is committed And thou makest much ado to prove that the Disciples of Christ nor any other should see him any more after his Ascention while they lived If any know no more but to believe thee and thy ground is because Christ said the dayes would come that they should desire to see one of the dayes of the Son of Man and shall not see it I say he told them also that they should mourn in the while of his absence but he would come again and their mourning should be turned into joy when the manchild should be born into the world and commanded them Act. 1. 4. 8. John 16. 19. 20 21 22. John 16. 16. they should not depart from Jerusalem but wait for that they had heard of him then should they be witnesses unto him to the utmost parts of the earth which was accomplished at his second comming in the spirit according to his promise which thou would deny his appearance unto which there was such gathering and is such gathering blessed be the Father who hath hid it from the Serpent who spends his time in jangling about it but never the wiser yet to the Babes it is revealed And thou sayst that our boasting of some inward ight or spirit to be listened to and received must needs be another spirit and bring in another Jesus a contrary anointing I say the Apostles preached the spirit and light within shining in their hearts to give the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus and this Treasure they had in the earthen vessels and 2 Cor. 4. 6 7. did they preach a false Christ or a contrary spirit or anointing though thou know not the Christ they preached nor that spirit blush for shame to utter thy blasphemy against the spirit of God and his light which none knows but within them and which all hearkens to in spirit and preacheth from but the Ministers of Antichrist whereof thou hast proved thy self one sufficiently who knowes not the Law written in the heart nor the testimony of Jesus which is the spirit of Prophesie because thou ownest no light in thee And thou sayst there is not another manner of preaching to be given then that of the Apostles to the end of the world I say then all Hirelings and Parish-masters stop our mouthes who are out of that manner yea and matter also for the Apostles was not Ministers of the Letter but of the spirit which thou hast sufficiently denied in thy Book and if there need no more preaching then what the Apostles preached you may spare your pains and the people their mony for that is preached and printed already and they have suffered for it so let it alone and take not mony for making it worse Thou pretendest to answer some Queries but first thou casts over them thy reproachful lying poysonous Tongue as thou hast done by my Letter as nothing that comes from the truth can escape thy envy and slander saying that they reproach the acknowledgement of one that died for all and all the way scoffe at the promise of his coming and many such like filthy lies whcih the least modesty that reades the Queries may see thy shameless impudency calling us unclean spirits when thy venom defiles all thou meddles with

eye cannot see this nor doth thy Oracle leade thee to it further than granishing the Sepulchers of them that was so used even whil'st thou art found in the same worke and thou tells of Christs appearance being a Rocke of offence to both the houses of Israel but canst not see thy selfe stumbling at his light and appearance and would'st preach him out of the world such is thy offence at his appearance and how his Children are for signes and wonders now and his appearance now every where spoken against and thou tellest much of the Scriptures being the infallible Oracle of God I say if they be so let them alone and own them as they are that they may be fulfilled and not changed but they are in an wofull case who have no better infallibility then the letter when the Serpent hath given his Crooked subtill meanings and interpretations and hath turned it to a contrary end as is plaine in this generation even the plainest words that ever Christ spoke are turned quite contrary both in judgment and practice even by your parish Masters as witnesse Math. 23. 8. 10. besides multitudes more which might be instanced but blessed be God who hath given us the Spirit of his Son into our hearts whereby the Orocle is seene and the pervertors the Hypocrites and the Phaire shyers of this generation which we had never seene had we had no better teaching then from you or that we could find in the letter without the life and Spirit which you would drive people from and in thy commendation of the letter thou sai'st therein is knowne the whole Counsell and Mystery of God that is to be or may be revealed unto mortall men even in those Scriptures that Timothy had beene instructed into and knowne from his youth whereas if thou was not blind thou mightest see how thou hast excluded and made uselesse all the Apostles writings for no man who hath so much as reason can judge that Timothy was instructed from his youth in those Epistles which was but then written to him and was never seene before and many other which was not then written which he had never seene and in these which Timothy had knowne from his youth was the whole Counsell of God sai'st thou and nothing to be added to them so thou hast judged the Apostles writings which are added since to be superfluous as to the whose Counsell of God and such mangled stuffe as this comes out of Babells bottle as I might have shewed in many more parts of thy booke but my life is not to rake in such confusion As thou tellest of Christ having given gifts for the perfecting of the Saints till we all come to a perfect man And in another place thou callest perfection a devillish Doctrine and thus vomits thy Blasphemy as though Christ gave gifts for accomplishing a devillish Doctrine But Christ and his Doctrine was ever counted a Devil and devillish in the eyes of thy Generation and by thy own mouth thou art judged thou art not one of those he begifted who callest the End devillish for which he begifted them And thou sayst they deny the sufficiency of Gods Teaching who deny the sufficiency of the Scripture as to lead to God without the Spirit to give the meaning and lead to the use of them I say I deny the sufficiency of any carnal visible thing Scripture Joh. 16. 13. or other without the Spirit of God to lead into the use thereof for that is it which is appointed of God to lead into all Truth and out of all Errour and there is no Teaching further sufficient than that leades and therefore nothing more by the Devil envied and thou that denies this to be sufficient even to those who never heard nor saw letter I say thou art he that denies the alone sufficiency of Gods Teaching and this I shall be ready while the Lord will to witness against thee in word or writing and all that say the letter is sufficient without the Spirit to give the meaning and lead to the use of it In thy Answer to the 1 Query thou sayst the new Jerusalem appears not to be come down to Us because of our grief of heart and yearning bowels for the miseries of others I say thou shewes what thou knowes of it Did not Christ weep over Jerusalem and had John no bowels of compassion towards others and wilt thou Rev. 21. 23. deny their seeing of the new Jerusalem Hath not thy Imaginations blinded thee above measure Can any rightly commiserate others who are out of Rest but those that are come into the Rest Indeed the Hypocrite is troubled for the Mote in his brothers eye before the beam be pull'd out of his own And thou sayst further It is not yet come down out of Heaven to any I say it was come down in John's time and when went it up again one y it was taken away and is taken away from the Popish Clergy and all that have followed them since the Mystery of Iniquity Yet hath not God been without his City here upon Earth since it came down after Christs Ascension but what is this to the Enemies thereof thou knowest it not who art preaching it out of the Word as thou art Christ the Light of it which should lead to cleanse all those who must enter into it 's for the Devil must keep the hopes of this out of peoples mind as long as he can least they begin to seek the way of Entrance and cast off their sinnes and so his Kingdome be broken and an End of his Ministery And for the second thou sayst this Answer must serve also To the third which askes where the New Covenant is this thou shufflest by with other things which are Psal 119 11. Jer. 20. 9 Rom. 10. 8. Isa 51. 7 Gal. 4. 6 Heb. 8. 10 13. nothing to the Question least thou should be forced to confess the Prophets and Apostles words and the Covenant to be written in the heart this thou puts into another World and not fully to be done here least any finding the Law and Word God hath written in the heart the blind guides should be discovered therewith which the Prophets and Apostles witnessed in their hearts whereby they cryed against all the blind Guides and Hirelings in their time But sayst thou While Peaple are here they must be imperfect in every thing Truly I know not how it should be any other with them who deny the Workes and Sufferings of Christ in them when Satans Work is perfect then theirs may but the least Work of Christ in whom oever he workes it is perfect who in him are created unto good Workes that they should walk therein but this Doctrine is an Enemy to the evil Workes and therefore cannot be received To the fourth Query where that annointing is spoken of 1 John 2. And this thou would'it thrust out from the Spirit within to your literal Teaching when John saith

fright the rest whom he cannot get to joyne with him in this wickednesse seeking to perswade them that to waite for the appearance of Christ in them with his light and Spirit to guide them out of all this confusion is the most dangerous errour in the world and of all other to be avoided when as indeed all that are from that Spirits guiding are in errour and can be no other wise untill to that Spirit they turne therewith to be led out of errour and being more subtile then all the rest brings in Lies and false Accusations against others as though they was out of the truth but he a friend unto it when as all the friendship he intends when truly weighed is to make an eternal separation betwixt the Creature and the Creator and to keep God out of his dwelling place yea and as far distant as the Heaven is from the Earth as thou dost in thy Book who denies the possession of God in his Saints as thou dost in thy 32 page and in many other places in thy Book In thy 25 page confesses the Body to be the Temple of the Lord in which God primely and chiefly dwelleth and manifesteth himself in through the testimony of Jesus there received and thus with confusion saying and unsaying hast thou made up thy Book to the end that thou might keep people from the light of Christ perverting the Scriptures to wrong ends and making them speak quite contrary to the Spirit as that of Amos 2. 13. where God saith I am pressed under you as a cart is pressed that is full of sheaves This thou would have people to believe that God said I will pross you as the cart is pressed with sheaves which is quite contrary and where the Spirit saith Christ in you speaking of the Saints in whom Christ dwelt thou turnedst it to Christ among you as he was among the Pharisees and where Christ saith The kingdom of God is within you that thou pervertest also to among you and this thou printest to all the world with many more such like of thy deceitful workings and pervertings too many to mention which all that read thy Book may see scarce one Scripture thou hast medled with which thou hast not sought to wrest and art not ashamed to accuse me for abusing the Scriptures who have but quoted the plain words without meanings at all nay so shameless is thy work in thy book that were it not for the simplicities sake which in many is deceived by such as thee I should leave it to discover it self as sufficiently it will do in the fight of the wise who compare but one part of it with another and not have written any thing unto it As also thy shameless denying what thou spoke before hundreds of Witnesses before whom thou denyed God to be manifest in the Creature then and that none had immediate call but the Apostles who was called by Christ personally before his Ascention And when I instanced Paul and Ananias Thou said Paul was in Heaven and saw him personally Thou said further that thou had not the same Testimony as the Apostles had which thou now turnedst to Timothy Further thou said also That the Scriptures are the absolute Rule and Medium of Faith and when I asked thee if God could give faith without them thou saidst Yea then I said They was not the absolute Rule and Medium then John Wray said I catcht at Words to which I answered If thou didst confess thy mistake I did not desire to make thee an Offender for a word and upon thy confession thereupon that thing ceased and I spake no more of it at that time which otherwise had not so passed Thou saidst further That Paul saw Christ personally with his bodily eyes after his Ascension Thou al so said I was a false witness in saying that I had seen Christ and said thou had never seen him as Paul did to which I said I believed thou had not Further thou said The benefit the drunkards have by Christ is that they enjoy that drink wherewith they are drunken Thou said also That there is something which is not of God which teacheth the Creature to deny sin with divers other such like things which then I reproved thee for and withstood thee to thy face before the people where thou couldest not deny it and writ to thee of it in faithfulness that thou mightest have considered thereof and have seen thy folly and not have envyed me for speaking the truth which thou could not then deny before the people neither then nor the next day But now the envious one being got up for these things thou art not ashamed to account me a Lyar which thou couldst not do to my face before the people here shewing thy self to be a Backbiter and false Accuser of the truth and the lye returned into thy own bosom where the Lyar dwells seeking to hide himself by accusing others In thy Epistle thou tellest of some abatement of bloody persecution in these times but whosoever sees the emnity of these days and your combining together against the innocent with your actings imprisonings whippings mockings stockings reproachings and false accusings with all the multitude of your invented Envies of which thy Book is not the least they may see such a Generation of persecuters gathered from all Quarters against a poor despised People and persecuting for such things as never was since the World was created as witness all the Goals in the Nation and this mischievous lying Book of thine whereby thou would adde affliction unto those Bonds accusing us of denying Christ and preaching another Christ and another Gospel and another Spirit and many such blasphemous things from which we are clcar hast thou added unto the envy that is against us for all which thou must give an account amongst the rest when thou hast filled up thy measure And thou that callest it a Spirit of Antichrist to witness Christ bearing sin now in the body art one of those who never saw him whom thou hast pierced But did not he bear sin in thee though thou know him not thou had been in hell ere now and that thou shall know when his spirit leaves striving and his long-suffering is turned into Judgement which should lead thee to repentance And Christ appearing without sin to salvation is witnessed with all who have seen his appearance and that is the spirit of Antichrist which cannot confess him who goeth on in blindness and confusion as thou dost who faist there is not in man any light knowledge or understanding to make them sensible of their Idolatry and wickedness And in the next page faist Although the word be nigh them in their hearts What is not the word light and understanding where it is if it be minded it was so to the people of God who knew it in their hearts and by it was kept out of sin But thy testimony is contrary whose eyes are abroad

finde it by asking questions he had need of a better resolver then thee that had answered these Queries or any who deny the infallible spirit of God within them And thou tells of a new birth and the forming of Christ in men but what birth is that thou intends and what Christ must be formed within seeing thou hast in thy judgement and Doctrine confined the Son of God in Heaven while this World lasts art not thou preaching another Christ and birth let all who have the Son of God judge The last Query which askes what the grace of God is that brings salvation and hath appeared to all men this thou answerest with a slander saying that indeed we believe no such thing as the grace of God appearing to all men but put a fancy in the room of it c. Shewing thy heart void of grace and so more ready to slander then answer having more experience of the one then the other and no wonder though it be so when thou deniest the spirit of Light within to be the true Teacher and thou sayst that which is alwayes within cannot be properly said to be brought to a man wherein thou shewest thy sottishness Is not the life of man brought to him freely given of God and yet alwayes in him while he lives so natural reason may judge thee and he that gives the life gives the light thereby to keep the life unspotted though such as thou turn it into darknesse and hide it under the Bushel else would it reprove thy lying spirit who would make people believe that I deny the Scriptures because I bid blinde guides search the Scriptures and reprove you who cannot believe what the Scripture saith conderning the flesh of Christ and thou sayst the Ranters principles and ours are one and the greatest ground thon brings to prove it is by Richard Farnsworth writing a Book against them O thou dissembler art thou not ashamed to accuse us to be one with them and yet takes offence that we should write against them Indeed they are true friends to the Kingdom thou art pleading for in thy Book to wit sin for terme of life and strong props in that Kingdom so you can ill spare them and their faith and thine suits well for pleasure here and hereafter yet be ashamed of thy acculation and the ground of it for of above 40 Books written against the truth within this three or foure years I never see one written against the Ranters by your Parish-Teachers yet will you murmur at others which shews no little of your friendship and thou murmurest at Rich Earnsworth because he only blameth them for turning to a loose and prophane life and saist that once the pure law was set up in them to have freed them from Sin and thou saist if he know any thing that their principle led naturally to it but is this no blasphemy to charge the pure law and Judgment naturally to lead to sin for this is the principle that he knowes and speaks of and thou saist he ownes their principales and yet cries out against their grosse prophanes and Atheism so that to own the pure law and Judgment seemes to thee an offence and matter of accusation But saist thou this he doth because that is grosly scandalous and hinders others from harkning to their imaginations O thou devourer how dost thou cast out thy envie are these words becoming Christians thus wickedly to slander and is the pure law and judgment and the light within imaginations with thee thou art afraid this should be harkened to and therefore calls it the roote of all Atheisme and propanesse which the Apostles saith want of the light within and because of the blindnesse of the heart is people given over unto lasciviousnesse to worke all uncleanness with greedinesse Eph. 4. 18. and 19. So thou art an enemy to the Apostles testimony light and Spirit Law and Judgments and so art Antichrist out of thy own mouth and let the Apostles words judge thee without wresting And thy envie hath got an object of one about Norwich that pretended perfection whom thou saist yet lived secretly in uncleanesse along time if not in murther too for hiding it I say the woe is to him who hath given thee cause to blaspheme by departing our of the way of God which is perfect but let every sober Christian judge thee with Spirit thou art of what takest that advantage against the truth considering the wickednesse committed in your Parishes where you are Masters and from whom you have your hire which might stop your mouthes frō this glorying were it not that the Devill must rejoyce in his own work who could never get such an advantage against the truth since it begun to spread in the Nation So now he plies it with reproaches from all parts of the Nation which is no little sorrow to them that feare God nor will it be joy to you one day who aggravate it as thou dost adding murther to it which if thou know such a thing and conceale it the blood be upon thy head but it thou know not such a thing then a murderous slanderer thou art and thy own works shall judge thee in every honest heart who reades what thou hast published to all the world And for thy accusing us at our meeting for incivilities as for calling you liars Serpents Sots and such like I say if any did call you that you are not you are more innocent then they I justify no such thing but this I know and many other that was there that one of thy companions had his staffe up to have knock't me down in the yard gnashing at me with his teeth and narrowly I escaped that it was not so had you had any such carriage from us reason might have judged it uncivill but a Word from us is counted In offence when Actions from the world is counted none And thou would 't charge James Parnell with blasphemy who speaking of corrupt reason saith before that was I am I say thou here shewest what thou knowest of the inward man or being in the life of Christ Is not he that is born again of the immortal seed borne of that which before corrupt reason is art thou a teacher and calls this blasphemy Nay it is the blasphemer in thee that cannot own the voyce of Christ for if any thing of Christ speak in man it was before corrupt reason was and every one in their measures of Christ as they have received And for the name of Manifesterians which thou wouldest cast upon us for a slander and saist thou know'st not any called Manifesterians nor what manner of persons they apply that name to and said it thou never heard of any such thing that John Wray called you so in some letters I say then thou should have beene sent and not have Judged that thou heard not for the letter is yet a witnesse for us which came to mee above 60 miles from John

and so utters Psal 119 11. v. thy confusion who faist The grace of God that brings salvation instructs not to look for any light or spirit in them for direction when Christ saith He will send the spirit of truth who shall guide them into all truth which thou denyest to be grace who deniest that Spirit for teaching And whereas thou would make people believe that directing to the light within opens a gap to all Popery and corrupt Principles thou shewest thy self herein to be contrary to the spirit of God which spake in the Apostles who makes the cause of all wickedness to be blindness of the heart as thou maist read Eph. 4. 18. and that such are past feeling whose hearts are blinde and so given to all maner of lasciviousness to commit sin with greediness and thou that would deny the infallible Spirit of God for giving the sence of the Scriptures and saith we have the same ground for that as the Papists have for the Pope or Councel thou shalt know thy Blasphemy against that Spirit which thou speakest against without which no Scripture can be opened nor Act. 13. 27. Luk. 24. 45 the voices of the Prophets and Apostles known as also thy calling of Perfection a devilish Doctrine which is the Doctrine of Christ Matth. 5. 48. the Doctrine of his Apostles Col. 1. 28. yea the end of the whole Ministry Eph. 4. 11 12 13. and that is the spirit of the Devil in thee that calls it devilish Doctrine which spirit in thy Forefathers the Pharisees cal ed Christ a Devil and so thou dost his Doctrine and him in his servants and whereas thou tellest of some who in words confess Christ but in works deny him I say thou art he who hath him in thy mouth to talk on but denies him and his working any of his works of Righteousness in his Creatures now as in divers places of thy book thou hast done So this word thou hast spoken against thy self and so by thy own mouth thou art condemned And whereas thou would charge us with serving and magnifying our bellies I say with shame may thou speak it who could not abide from thy dinner but broke up thy dispute about it of which thou wouldst clear thy self formerly but in thy book art made to confess thy act and excuses it because thou had ridden ten miles and it was about an hour after noon I know it s not usual with the Parish Ministers to miss their meal time so long but that being an extra ordinary occasion and many strangers come much farther thou might have broken custome one houre had that beene all but was not an other thing in it thou may remember what thou was then to prove but could not and it was high time to breake off this many can witnesse and when it was alledged you was faint I said to John Wray let them that are faint go to eate but let not the meeting breake up to which he answered if we would not go away he must use his authority of his house whereupon I said we would not stay in his house against his mind yet notwithstanding thou art not ashamed to say in thy booke we would gladly have beene gon and charge us with magnifying our bellies be ashamed of thy worke who magnified thy dinner before the worke of God then in hand And thus the Devill would ever cast his works upon the innocent and have the reproach to lie on another this thouwould deny againe had not thou printed it thy selfe as many other things thou hast As for thy excuses thou makes for thy errours thou then uttered I say what thou then said if thou now deny I shall not contend I had rather heare an errour recanted then defended and persisted in As for thy saying that Paul saw Christ with his bodily eies I say they may beleive thee who hath not seene him and who knows no better for any proofe thou hast yet made thereof they may chuse but admit he did was it not a second appearance which thou affirmes cannot be till the end of the world and would accu e me herein as a blasphemer so see thy confusion but if thou be blinded others may see who owne the light which thou denies Thou askes four Queries First concerning God being in mee and how I say by his in-dwelling according to his promise 2 Cor. 6. 16. Second That no wicked man hath benefit by Christ nor any man till he can witnesse Christ in him I say Christ is that only benefit of all creatures and only Psal 69. 22. he that hath him hath the benefit but to all that receive him not he is the condemnation and to such all becomes curses John 3. 18. 19. John 15. 22. Third Whether the writing of the Prophets and Apostles be a dead letter I say without the Spirit it is nor can any without that Spirit that gave them forth understand them or know the voyces of Prophets or Apostles Luke 24. 45. Acts 13. 27. Fourth Whether Christ be any thing that beareth our sins in us as the propitiation I say Christ is he that beares the sins of all the world even them who know him not nor his propitiation and so it is that men are not consumed and where he ceaseth bearing the creature falls into Hell Psa 75. 3. 2 Cor. 1. 5. Rom. 8. 17. Col 1. 24. but thou that denies this art not thou ashamed to accuse us for murthering the just one in us if he cannot suffer in us how can we murther him in us yet he alone is our propitiation but none know this but where he is revealed And thou still goes about to prove the Scriptures to be the absolute ground and Medium of faith though before denied yet unwilling thou art that Christ should be the absolute ground and Medium yet canst thou there is not two absolute Mediums it must either be Christ or the letter that absolute and if the letter be the absolute means ehen faith may be had without Christ being the means find no Scripture to shut him out but thou brings that of 2 Tim. 3 the Scriptures are able to make wise through faith and this thou would make the ground of faith which cannot make wise without faith and such shamefull shifts art thou put to to get Christ out of his place and put the letter in his stead wherein the letter is against thee which saith Faith is the gift of God and Christ is the ground and medium of it so Antichrist can get no ground by the Scriptures to thrust out Christ unlesse he turne them quite contrary And whereas thou tells we do not worship the same God thou did confesse I say the Saint's God was ever a Spirit and dwelt in them in spirit but the Heathens had their Gods ever without them who could not be in them further than imagination so thou may see what God thou then confessed the chiefe

that comes from our hands and when thou hast vented thy wickedness would father it upon us as though we provoke thee when it comes from the Root of the corrupt Tree the old Murtherer and Lyar and thou tellest of many changes in thy thoughts and many Reasons thou layest down of answering or not answering of them shewing thy selfe not to be guided by any stable spirit but turning according to thy Imaginations and before thou begin to answer that which thou callest the inscription thou first turneth the sence of them into a lie as thou dost by all our writings and by the Scriptures for there is not any thing given out by the spirit of truth that Satan can encounter withall till he hath moulded it anew in his own Language and when thou hast thus done thou fightest with the Lye thou hast made and having got the thing into thy own Kingdom thou casts out thy mire and dirt and yet makes a place to hide thy head as though thou was about the work of God Is it not sufficient to print our words as we speak them and so let the wise judge of them whether they be truth or no but thou must pervert them and then judge them Is this to do as thou would be done by but it is as all the Serpents Generation have done to the words of Christ the true seed whereby the enmity is seen what changing have you Parish-masters as your fore-Fathers made of the Scriptures since the Apostles time and yet is there not a verse of them will serve your turn without wresting or meanings but it is your Trade as you use it by which you get your living and means by which you bear rule and having not the word in your hearts you would soon be worn out had you not the Letter to change and alter thereby to devise novelties new notions and opinions by which you divided the Nations into so many Sects as they are one ready to devoure another and the strongest carries it but now the Lord hath appeared in a few despised ones to bring forth the same Life Way and Practise that he was formerly in the Saints and this you cannot wrest nor imitate but you must lay down your stately pride and worldly pomp to come into their wanderings anst reproaches and this strikes at the Root from which all arrogancy exaltations and opinions springs and none of you can any more walk in this way then the Camel go through the eye of a needle whiles you stand in your worldly Glory So all are gathered from all quarters against this The Head which is most subtle devising lies and laying slanders as though we denied God and Christ and Spirit Gospel and Scripture things that never entered into our hearts thereby to make way for the taile to come upon us with his murthering Instruments that if by any means he may destroy the Heire now appearing to take his inheritance And though we be counted the greatest offenders that ever was in the world by the heads of all Sects yet is there not one of you that is able nor willing to judge us and our practise and judgement with the practise of the Saints in which they walked and plain Scripture without meanings for this the Serpent knowes that which is given out from the Spirit of God will not condemn those who are guided and acted by that Spirit till he hath changed the Scripture one way and our words another way and so to make a jerre that he may murther under under protence of godliness by consent for under that pretence hath the Lambs of Christ ever suffered having wrested their words but their practise they could never touch nor can touch the fault being ever crying out against their evils and shewing forth the Life of Christ and his work in them and here the Murtherer first entered wherefore Cain slew his Brother so thou mayst read thy selfe deeply engaged to what power thou hast yet as blind as ever persecution was thinking thou dost John 16. 2 3. God good service not knowing the Father nor the Son in thee which is the very cause for which thou opposest because we witness him and his name in us but would you come to Christs Rules you might come to see your selves such a Ministry as Christ never owned and according to your own confession nor ever called but have called one another and run un ent and do have not turned people from their sins but are pleading for it which Christs Ministers never did so may you judge the Tree by its fruits which is brought forth amongst you And instead of answering plainly thou goest about making thy distinctions and crooked wayes as concerning Gods teaching dividing into numbers when God is but One and his way and teaching One but the World is in the many wayes And thou tellest of Christ bearing your sins in his body to the Tree not leaving them to be born in your bodies I say didst thou minde his light and faithful witnesse in thee which thou preachest against thereby thou mightest see thy sins not nailed to the Tree but the lyar backbiter and false accuser and envious one at liberty yet in thee not bound much more uncast out or put to the Crosse foaming out his own shame though Christ have suffered for thee and his long-suffering be yet in thee bearing up else thou had been in Hell with the envious one whom thou art serving though this thou know not and therefore sin is no burthen to thee in the sence of thy soul or body as thou sayst but like the Colt or the wild Asse upon the Mountains not subject to the yoke nor sense of sin in soul or body not knowing him whom thou piercest who is slain from the 1 Pet. 4. 13. Colos 1. 2. 4. 2 Cor. 1. 5 Phil. 3. 10. Collos 1. 24. 1 Pet. 3. 14 15. 4. 16. Rom. 2. 4. Rom. 8. 17. John 15. 5. foundation of the world a man of sorrows and acquainted with grief with him to partake in his sufferings that are yet behinde with him to have fellowship therein this thou scornest with thy light minde who would share in his joy but not in his sufferings which the Saints have done and do But thou which denies Christs sufferings within what suffering was that the Apostles exhotred if it was not Christ that was the sufferer in them with whom they was to have fellowship and to be joyned and rejoyce in It was either the suffering of Christ the sufferings of Satan or self-sufferings if of Satan what is it for but when he cannot get his will in his lusts and envy if of self what is it worth or able to prevail with or please God or what can selfe suffer nay it is the long-suffering of Christ that leads to repentance and we know that none can be heirs of his glory but who suffer with him neither can any suffer with him but by the vertue of