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A06131 A briefe conference of diuers lawes diuided into certaine regiments. By Lodowick LLoyd Esquier, one of her Maiesties serieants at armes. Lloyd, Lodowick, fl. 1573-1610. 1602 (1602) STC 16616; ESTC S108780 93,694 158

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of the souldiers in the one oxe and the other souldier in the other oxe and left their heads out of the oxen that thereby they might speake one to an other as long as they liued Was not Abraham called from the Chaldeans because they were wicked Idolaters Did not Iacob long in Mesopotamia for the land of Canaan Did not Dauid wish to be in Iudah from among the Amalekites wicked Infidels Were not the captiue Israelites most desirous from Babilon to come to Ierusalem yet not before the time that God had appointed and determined for Elizeus could not prophesie before Elias threw his mantle vpon him neither could Dauid appeale the furie of Saul before hee played on his harpe neither could Aaron become a high Priest before his rod blossomd in the Arke The very Heathens forsooke the company countrey of wicked people as Hermadorus forsooke his countrey Ephesus for the iniquitie of the people Anacharsis left Scythia his barbarous countrey and came to Greece to learne wisedome and Philosophie in Athens Plato left Athens and went from Greece to Egipt to be taught in the religion ceremonies and lawes of the Egiptians Paul left Tharsis to goe to Ierusalem to learne the lawes of the Iewes at Gamaliel Queene Saba came from Aethiope to heare Salomons wisedome in Ierusalem It was lawfull by the lawe of Solon in Athens to kill an adulterer beeing taken in the act as among the olde Romanes the husband might kill his wife if hee found her an adulteresse but this lawe of Solon in Athens was after mitigated by Solon with a lesse punishment The Parthians supposed no offence greater then adultery neither thought they any punishment to be equall with so great a crime Among the Arabians the lawe was that the adulterer should die such a death as the partie grieued should appoint Diuers Philosophers euer thought adultery worse then periurie and without doubt greater harmes growe by adultery then periurie though the one be in the first Table against the maiestie of God to take his name in vaine and the other in the second Table against thy neighbour whom thou oughtest to loue as thy selfe and yet some of the best Philosophers as Plato Crisippus and Zeno iudged that common-wealth best gouerned where adultery was freely permitted without punishment that libertie they brought from Egipt vnto Greece where the Egiptians might marrie as many wiues as they would like the Persians Among diuers other nations adulterie was left vnpunished for that they had no lawe against adultery Histories make mention that the virgins of Cypria and of Phaenizia get their dowrie with the hire of their bodies vntil they gaue so much for their dowries that they might make choise of their husbands and be married The Troglodites the nights before they be married vnto their husbands must lye and keepe company with the next of their kin and after their marriage they were with most seuere lawes punished if they had offended It should seeme by the lawes of Licurgus in Sparta 300. yeares before the law of Solon in Athens which was 200. yeares before the law of Plato among the Cicilians which made no lawes against adultery that the Grecians tooke their instructions by imitation from the Egiptians For one after an other Solon after Licurgus and Plato after Solon trauelled to Egipt to other farre countries and brought the lawe of Bocchoris out of Egipt the lawe of Mynoes out of Creete and the lawes of the Gymnosophists out of India into Greece As among the Lesbians Garamites Indians Massagets Scythians and such that were more like to sauage beasts then to temperate people for by the lawe wee knowe sinne for I had not knowne what adultery was vnlesse the lawe had commaunded thou shalt not lust And therefore it was not lawfull by Moses lawe that a bastard or the sonne of a commonwoman should come vnto the congregation of the Lord or serue in any place of the Tabernacle or enter into the ministerie vntill the tenth generation so hatefull vnto the Lord was fornication adulterie and vncleannesse of life When Iacob had blessed all his children yet for that Ruben lay with his fathers concubine Bilha his father Iacob prophesied that he should not be the chiefest of his bretheren though hee was the eldest sonne of Iacob and the eldest of his bretheren for that he was as vnstable as water for defiling his fathers bed for among the Israelites it was a great shame and reproach for women to be barren therfore the wiues brought their maides to their husbands for childrens sake as Sarah brought her maide Agar vnto Abraham and Leah and Rachel brought to Iacob their two maides Bilha and Zilpha so Rachel gaue leaue to Iacob to lye with Bilha her maide who bare to Iacob two sonnes whom Rachel though not their mother named them as her owne sonnes Dan and Nepthali So Leah brought her maide Zilpha to Iacob who conceiued and brought him two sonnes of whom Leah was so glad that she named them as her owne sons the one Gad and the other Asar so that foure of Iacobs sonnes were borne by his maides and not by his wiues This was tollerated but not lawfull Though the Hebrewes were tollerated by the lawe of Moses to haue many wiues and concubines and Libels of diuorcement for the hardnesse of the lewes hearts as Christ said yet said our Sauiour Non fuit sic ab initio it was not so from the beginning Euen from the creation men liued vnder the law of nature for in mans heart yet not corrupted before the fall there was perfect knowledge in the lawe of nature as in the first man Adam was seene before his fall vnder the which the olde Patriarkes liued and sinnes were corrected and punished by the same lawe for it was a positiue lawe by nature set foorth and written in the hearts of men thus was the written lawe yet by Moses tollerated When it was tolde Iudah that his daughter in lawe Thamar was with childe hee commaunded that shee should be brought forth and be burnt Here the law of nature before the lawe written commaunded whoredome to be punished with death here Iudah though he detested whoredome in Thamar yet being found that the incest was committed by him found his fault greater then hers If a man be found with a woman that hath a wedded husband let them both die the death so shalt thou put euill away from Israel for the lawe is you shall maintain no harlots in Israel as the Cyprians and Locreans doo It was not lawfull among the old Romaines to call a bastard by the name of his father because he was the son of a common woman and no man knew who should be his father but they vsed for his name to write these two letters S. P. quasi sine patre as though he had neuer a father In Athens by the law of Solon a bastard
A BRIEFE CONFERENCE OF DIVERS LAWES Diuided into certaine Regiments By Lodowick LLoyd Esquier one of her Maiesties Serieants at Armes Eccle. 21. Vidi in loco iudicij impietatem in loco institiae iniquitatem LONDON Printed by Thomas Creede 1602. TO THE MOST HIGH AND MIGHTIE PRINCE Elizabeth by the grace of God Queene of England France and Ireland c. I Knew not how most gratious Queene to make my most bounden dutifull seruice known vnto your Maiestie But as Dauids seruaunts ventured theyr liues through the middest of their enemies to fetch water from the well of Bethelem to please their Lord and Maister So my selfe thought it my dutie to trauell into some farre countries in no daunger but of your Maiesties displeasure by presenting some straunge Iewels among so many as might dislike your Highnesse which should scorch mee more then the Sunne did Ionas when his gourd was off and terrifie me more then the countenance of Moses terrified the Iewes without his vaile on But your Maiestie which forget nothing but iniuries will the sooner forgiue mee my ouermuch boldnesse the rather for that I present your highnesse but with Iewels such as far excell the Iewels on Aarons garment the onely pearles which ought to be bought with al the wealth we haue the Iewels which we ought to seeke with all the studie and trauell wee can the onely Vrim and Thummim which should shine bright on a Princes breast which the auncient Kings of Israel ware as tablets about their necks as frontlets on their foreheads and gardes on their garments which Iewels many other kings sought and mist. Licurgus sought these Iewels for the Lacedemonians at Delphos Mena sought them of Mercurius for Egipt Numa of the Nymph Egeria for the Romanes Zaleucus of Minerua for the Locreās Of these Iewels also I brought the best Pearles I could finde among them vnto your Maiestie in hope of your wonted gracious fauour to accept these Iewels for their owne sake as Artaxerxes accepted water of the riuer Cyrus for Cyrus sake Your Maiesties most bounden and obedient seruant Lodowick LLoyd A BRIEFE CONFErence of diuers Lawes diuided into certaine regiments In the first Regiment is expressed the antiquitie and force of the Lawe the states of Common-wealths vnder diuers kindes of gouernments ALl creatures of God as well in heauen as in earth had lawes giuen them after they were created to be gouerned and ruled by the Sunne the Moone and the Starres to keepe their perpetuall motions and course in their places and regiments so the seas haue their limits and bounds how farre they should rule and raigne and though one starre differeth from an other in glorie in greatnesse and in brightnesse yet are they gouerned by one perpetuall lawe so the seas though the waues thereof be so loftie and proud yet are they shut vp within doores and commaunded to keepe in and not to goe further then the place to them by lawe appointed By lawe also the elements are commaunded to staie within their owne regiments without trespassing one of another as Manilius faith Certa stant omnia lege For the stanes by lawe haue their leaders before them they haue their watch giuen them they haue their motions and marching appointed them and as all riuers and waters haue their course and recourse to the seas and from the seas as from their chiefe commaunder so all starres haue their brightnesse light from the Sun as from their chiefe generall Neither were the Angels in heauen being the first and the chiefest creatures of God nor man in Paradise beeing the last creature Tanquam Epilogus operum dei without lawe the breach wherof made such a generall confusion that it so obscured the first integritie of the lawe of nature that the Angels that offended in heauen lost heauen and were iudged to perpetuall darkenesse and man for his disobedience in Paradise cast out of Paradise to euerlasting punishment so that the Angels were not pure nor the heauens cleare before God The earth likewise and the seas and all the creatures in them by breaking of the first lawe which Tertullian calleth Primordialem l●…gem legum omnium matricem lost the benefites of the first creation for in Adams fall all creatures were cursed which made Augustine to wōder Vtrùm mirabilius homines iustos creare quàm iniustos instificare whether the mercy of God were more in creating iust men or in iustifying wicked men though with God it was of equall and like power yet said Augustine it was of greater mercy to iustifie vniust men for that Iustificatio er at secunda hominis creatio Yet the old Patriarches liued vnder the lawe of nature so Paul testifieth that the lawe was first written not in tables of stones but in fleshly tables of the heart for I will put my lawe saith the Lorde in their inward parts and in their hearts will I write it so Augustine saith Audi linguam non in lapide sed in corde scribentem for from the eternall lawe which is Creatrix gubernatrix vniuersitatis was reuiued and lightned the lawe of nature vnder the which the Patriarches liued for the lawe of nature which the Patriarches had being not corrupted differeth nothing frō the written lawe giuen to Moses which is the whole summe of the morall lawe What else is the lawe written giuen to Moses but a short repetition and compendious catalogue expounding vnto vs the lawe of nature beeing obscured and corrupted by the fall of Adam but by the second Adam renued written and giuen to Moses in tables of stones Tanquam norma rectitudinis in Deo So Paule sayeth that if the Gentiles which haue not the lawe doo by nature those things contained in the lawe they hauiug not the lawe are a lawe to themselues and therefore the Heathens are not excuseable for conscience which is that Flammeus gladius is a witnesse of theyr fault and a signe of the anger and iudgement against them for theyr sinne Agnitio Peccatilex and therefore the lawe was giuen to shewe vs our infirmities and that by the lawe grace might bee sought for Fides enim impetrat quod lex imperat for when the lawe was first giuen in Mount Sinai to Moses it was with such feare lightning and thundering with such cloudes smoake and fire that euery part of Sinai trembled and quaked when the lawe was giuen for the law is full of terror and ministreth vnto death The law said Plato punisheth wicked mē rewardeth good mē so Cicero saith Lex vitiorū emēdatrix virtutū est commendatrix By the lawe we know our selues without the which we wander in darknesse without light in ignorance without knowledge in sin without feare whose force and authoritie is from God and not from man so could Cicero say Tantalegis vis est vt ea non homini sed deo Delphico tribueretur And therefore the first and auncient kings and