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A62667 The Quakers apostasie from the perfect rule of the scriptures discovered in a double reply to a twofold answer of theirs, in the vindication of several queries propounded by the author : wherein their deceits, blasphemies and reproches against scripture authority and ordinances of institute religious worship, are spoken unto, their main principles examined and denyed, the truth defended and cleared against their railing, slandering, censorious pens and tongues / by John Timson ... Timson, John. 1656 (1656) Wing T1295; ESTC R21114 77,026 109

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mans self and to be urged upon others as the authority of the Scripture The Quakers Answer The Revelations of Jesus Christ are according to Scripture which bind up the testimonie and seal the law in the hearts among my disciples And what Revelations and Dictates in the heart are contrary to the law and testimonie are to be disowned and rejected according to Isai 8.20 My Reply The Answer is both cloudie and deceitfull yet seems to be in the Negative when they say what Dictates and Revelations is in the Conscience and heart of man contrary to the Law and Testimony is not to be regarded but disowned But then the Question is what they mean by Law and Testimonie whether the old and new Testaments or Law and Testimonie in the heart If of the first their Answer is true but if of the last their Answer is false and unsound and it will follow that the Revelations and Dictates of the heart not to be found in Scriptures are as binding to my own and other mens Consciences as the Scriptures contrary to their own quotation Isai 8.20 c. The truth is they will have the inward Dictates of the heart binding to Conscience and the rule when they have denyed the holy Scriptures to be a rule of faith and obedience as we have seen in their Answer to the first Question they will take no notice of Scripture Authority as if they were altogether out of Date Whereas every true Christian doth believe that God hath ordained the holy Scriptures alone to be the object of faith and ground of all our obedience and serving of God and to do any Religious service to God out of any other Principle is but will-worship and to follow the imaginations of our own hearts serving the Devil and not God Their Answer saith My accusation is false and the cloud and deceit is in my self who cannot endure sound Doctrine but call it unsound and question whether the Law and Testimonie in the heart which is the Law of the new Covenant Jer. 31.33 be the Rule to judge error by and here with the light of Christ the spirituall man who judgeth all things thy blindnesse and deceit is seen and judged and we witnesse the Scriptures to be writ for our learning and a testimony against thee and all such lyars who have got them to talk on and would set them above the Revelations of the Spirit and light of Christ which we witness is absolutely binding and the sole judge of error for to him is all Judgement given Joh. 5.22 And in his power thou art bound and thy error judged Answ Reader thou mayst see what impudent foreheads they have by saying my accusation is false when themselves have discovered to purpose the deceit of their Answer which saith The Revelations of Christ are according to the Scriptures and what Dictates are in the heart of man contrary to the Law and Testimony is not to be regarded but disowned according to Isai 8.20 In which Text we are to go to the Law and the Testimony and if any speak not according to that word it is 〈◊〉 cause there is no light in them which word is to be understood of Moses and the Prophets without all controversie So that take their answer as expressed and a plain minded Christian cannot but judge it sober and true but you may see they speak one thing and mean another thing for in their last answer to mine they tell us what they mean by Law and Testimony namely the Dictates Revelations and Law and Testimony in the heart And is not that a deceitfull answer to make a shew of one thing and intend another for if their answer had been to their intent it should have been this The Revelations of Christ within are of greater force then the Scriptures and what Dictates or Revelations in the heart of man are contrary to the Law and Testimonie in the heart are to be disowned and they should have left out their quotation had they not been purposely minded to deceive and yet they tell us often that as they write so they mean and speak the truth in plainnesse most horrible hypocrisie and deceit which nothing but impudent lying and a knavish head dare go about to excuse much lesse impute falsehood upon the innocent for discovering it Did you ever read of Law and Testimonie in the heart and did you ever read that the Law and Testimonie in the heart is the Law of the new Covenant and did you ever read that the Law in the heart is the Law of the new Covenant where is the new Covenant called a Law and the only rule to judge error by We know the whole Book of God written by Moses and the Prophets is called the Book of the Covenant Exod. 24.7 And that which you call the Law of the New Covenant is the blessing promised in the new Covenant put into performance where and to whom God is pleased in the use of the word and ordinances of the Covenant to regenerate renew quicken and change the hearts of any to yeeld willing and heartie obedience to the holy Lawes of God commanded in his word Do these strangers to the nature of the new Covenant think that all have the Law of God writ in their hearts by vertue of he new Covenant Who can deny this writing of Gods Law and giving his Spirit c. Jer. 31.33 Heb. 8. to be a saving blessing of the Covenant farre different to Rom. 2.14 which is a Law in the heart common to all upon another account If that which they plead be writ in all then all have true saving Grace and shall be saved for that Covenant is everlasting and unchangeable and then if all have not that Law of the new Covenant to what end is that quoted but to deceive making the most to believe a lye where their damnable Tenents take and so upon the matter they destroy all Christian Lawes and obedience and presse men that are Christians to turne Heathens in minding the Law of Nature only And should I speak my heart touching the nature of the new Covenant I should expresse my self thus That the Covenant of Grace that brings salvation to faln man is founded upon and confirmed by the death of Christ in which Covenant the promises of a new heart and of giving Gods Spirit and writing his Lawes are the main all other promises precepts threats and ordinances in the whole Book of God have their tendencie in order to the Lords putting into execution of those spirituall blessings promised and this Covenant is to be restrained to the visible professing Church and their seed as a speciall blessing beyond all the rest of the world that are left to wander in their own wayes And in the Church this Covenant is not to all universally and absolute but indefinitely and conditional so that not any can be excluded from it in particular nor all included in it conjunctively taken for in
the text and judge me for pleading the holy perfect just Lawes and Institutions of God and Christ that Scriptures teach the only Rule of the Saints obedience as if these were to vanish as making nothing perfect as is very probable that 's their sense Therefore no great matter that I come under their censure when the holy Lawes of God revealed in the holy Scriptures cannot escape their slanders Thus you may see of what Spirit they are of both by their forwardnesse to censure and falshood in their Answer But then in the next paragraph they have another Answer to the same thing where they yeeld 1. That the perfect Law in the heart is the same with that in Scripture but under another Covenant 2. They say this perfect Law of God in the heart is in all that are in the new Covenant 3. Then they say That this Law is perpetually one and the same in all that have it and it admits of no addition alteration nor repeal 4. Where Regeneration is witnessed and the heart quickned by the grace of God his Law is writ in that heart These four things were occasioned upon some queries put to them which for want of my Copy I cannot directly transcribe amongst which Queries one was Whether this perfect Law in the heart gives any Evangelicall discoveries of the person natures offices of Christ which they say is an unlearned Question condemned by the light which gave forth the Scriptures c. Reader mark here they make the Law in the heart the Rule which is perpetuall without repeal as before which directeth them in answering and yet this Law is but a blessing of the new Covenant Another while they say the Spirit is the sole judge and only Rule as you have heard Another while the light of Christ that enlighteneth every one that comes into the world another while the eternall word that was from the beginning which made all things and in their close of all they say written from the Spirit of truth who is the same in all the children of light Thus you see they make the Law written in the heart and the Spirit of truth and the eternal word all one the Law which is promised and given by that one God that made all things is the same that made all things Again one while they plead the work of the Law writ in the hearts of all in the world another while restrain it only to those that are in the new Covenant and regenerate quickned by the grace of God one while man by nature hath no light remaining in him at all but is darknesse another while all in the world are enlightened by Christ They plead a perfect Law within and the same with the Lawes of God in Scriptures and yet condemn me for pleading the Lawes and Ordinances of God in Scripture for a Rule That of the Scripture made nothing perfect say they and yet confesse it the same with that in the heart Surely either these are learned Paradoxes or else absurd contradictions they may do well to clear themselves better and speak plain and directly to the things in hand 1. The Question is still where we read of a perfect Law of God in the heart and where it is made the Rule and ground of the Saints obedience 2. And the Question is whether the Law in the heart be under another Covenant distinct from the perfect law of God as declared in the Scripture 3. And still the Question is what we are to understand by the Law of God in the heart which is the same with Scriptures whether the ten Commandements writ in Tables of Stone only or all those positive precepts of Gospel worship and obedience conjoyned with them also 4. And still the Question is whether the Law in the heart without the use of Scriptures make any evangelicall discoveries of the person natures and offices of Christ as he is Redeemer of lost man 5. And whether all shall be saved that have the Law of God writ in their hearts by vertue of the new Covenant or any be saved that live to years of discretion that know not Christ as the Scriptures testifie of him in order to his coming in the world to save sinners Although these queries have been put to them they will not answer plainly and directly but darkly and with deceit of purpose to evade the strength of truth that is against them should they speak out They quote Psal 19.7 to prove the Law of God to be perfect in the heart but David intended another Law namely that of the Prophets The Law of the Lord is perfect converting the soul the Testimony of the Lord is sure making wise the simple the Statutes of the Lord are right rejoycing the heart the Commandements of the Lord are pure enlightening the eyes c. I have given my thoughts how the Law is writ in the hearts of Gods sanctified people and do grant the thing in all that are Godly by vertue of the new Covenant which they accuse me to deny though falsely but this I deny That the perfection of the whole Law of God is writ in any mans heart so as to know it and do it as it is written in the Prophets and Apostles For as Paul saith We know in part and prophesie in part and see but darkly 1 Cor. 13.9.12 So in James in many things we offend all Besides the Scripture doth not say as they do of yeelding faithfull obedience to the righteous and perfect Law of God in the heart and when they speak not according to Scripture it is to be rejected and disowned themselves have granted in their Answer to the second Question And what that other Covenant is the Law in the heart is under themselves have often expressed to be the new Covenant Jer. 31. Heb. 8. And will they deny the Lawes Statutes Ordinances of God in force writ in Scriptures to be a blessing of priviledge as they are means appointed for man to use in order to that end of Gods writing them in the heart by his Spirit Both the outward writing and the inward impression wrought by the power of Divine grace is from the same Covenant witnesse Deut. 4.7 8 9. For what Nation is so great that hath God so nigh unto them as the Lord our God is in all things that we call upon him for And what Nation so great that hath Statutes and Judgements so righteous as all this Law which Moses set before them and therefore he warns them to keep their souls diligently lest they forget the Lawes which their eyes have seen and lest they depart from their hearts but teach them thy Sons and thy Sons Sons and so on These words of the Law of God they were commanded to get them in their hearts and teach them diligently to their children when they sate in their houses and walked abroad lying down and rising up chap. 6.6 7. Thus we may see that those that have the
their opinion of a sufficiency of universall grace to all in Christ that leads out of darknesse to eternal life as the Quakers do as hath been shewed by their own Papers under their hands destroyes Gods distinguishing will of his purpose and good pleasure manifesting his mercy and love to whom he will because he will and not to others not only in respect of the end but of the means subservient to the end hence comes free will to be saved or damned which these men cannot evade for if every man in the world hath a sufficient light of Christ to lead out of darknesse to eternall life if they will but heed it c. then it followes that all men may be saved that will unlesse you say that that condition of loving and heeding this sufficient light in man is not in the power of man but is the speciall grace of God given to whom he will upon choyce but you cannot say so but you will destroy your main principle which is universall and must be urged every way sufficient to eternal life and happinesse or else to what purpose is the pressing of this light to all if all have not a power to improve it up to that very end of happinesse That there is such a light and power in all men that shall leave them without excuse and being improved to the utmost shall not only mitigate the Torments of hell but be a means of enjoying many blessings in this world and the way and means of renewing quickning grace where God gives his word and ordinances to any is easily yeelded by men of sober judgement but to say as you that all men in the world have a sufficient light in Christ to lead them out of that corrupt dark state of nature to eternall life and have power in themselves thus to improve it if they will This text Joh. 1.9 falls short of the proof or any other Scripture whatever and therefore to be rejected as a fancy of mans vain mind meerly And do but seriously consider what wicked errors this one principle of yours runs you upon point blank to plain and evident Scriptures First you have in favour of this fancyed such a light in every one that you sometimes call the light Christ the Law of the new Covenant the counsell of God in the secret of the soul that Spirit of Christ which convinceth the world of sin and Christ the light of the Gentiles all which as you apply them to every man in the world have been confuted and are most pernicious errors which the Scriptures oppose Secondly hence you perswade all men to cease from all outward means of light and onely attend upon the light within and to wave all outward worship in holy observances according to Scriptures and only obey the commands of the light and commands of Christ within though inconfistent with the Scriptures never so much For that which I call the word and ordinances namely the holy writings of the Prophets and Apostles and the ordinances of holy Worship which have their institution and foundation from the Spirit of God speaking and moving what they writ These things you say is but the letter and traditions of men as in the latter end of your answer to this fourth Question besides your frequent reproaching these things in most of your papers that fly abroad I have made some discovery already and what means all this but that you judge the light of Christ to all is sufficient alone to life eternall Thirdly hence it is that you have fancyed a more spirituall Christ then Christ that was made flesh by incarnation who was truely God and truely man in one person and offered himself a sacrifice to God to reconcile sinners to God and preached peace to them that were neer and afarre off c. Because this Christ this person this sacrifice and the ends thereof are not known nor heard of to all in the world so that rather then you will put a limit to this Text Joh. 1.9 which meerly the strength of fancy hath taken up you will invent another Christ that will make the Text hold to every man and that is no other then the rationall soul of man corrupted which indeed is called the candle of the Lord but no where called the Lords Christ in whom we have redemption through his bloud c. Fourthly hence you have fancyed an universall free Grace of God to all men in the world equally alike and a new Covenant to all men in the world and this light is that Grace of God and the blessing promised in the new Covenant Heb. 8 and these universalls cannot be without the other of universall redemption though they say little of it because that Christ they have in their fancy was not capable of shedding blood for any such end And why not a universall salvation as well inasmuch the one as the other but that men will not besaved notwithstanding they are redeemed and renewed with saving grace by vertue of Redemption and the new Covenant But do you think that this is all which the Scriptures teach as touching Redemption by Christ the free love and grace of God bestowed on men as they are blessings of the new and everlasting Covenant which stands in remission of sins and in the giving of his Spirit to renew and sanctifie and soften the carnall old hard and rebellious heart of man I say doth all the mercy and grace of God through Christ amount to no more then so as to depend upon the will of man resisting or not improving what God intends to their eternall happinesse If all men have new hearts and the Spirit and pardon of sin by vertue of the new Covenant what can hinder the salvation of all Or what is it that makes this great difference between one man and another if the Grace of God according to the new Covenant makes all equall at first What is it or who hath made thee to differ from another man I pray you answer in whom doth the election obtain it for that some believe and others not You talk of the children of light unto whom saith is only given but why should you make any restriction amongst men if all have Christ in them and have the Law of the new Covenant writ in their hearts as a blessing thereof What should hinder the salvation of all that have this supernaturall Grace will the Lord condemn any that have the light and life of reall grace and forgivenesse of sins by vertue of the new Covenant which you apply to all in the world If all that come into the world have a sufficiency of Grace to lead out of darknesse to eternall life then what need hath any of converting regenerating Grace Or what need any pray for the Grace of God to convert and turn them to God if they have it in themselves as they come into the world Do you think or can you believe that those promises of giving
the mans fancie and design is in bruiting and making such a noyse of the the appearance of the mighty day of the Lord judge ye I am sure he hath sufficiently discovered his own follie in blazing abroad such dreams of his own lying heart as if he could perswade people to believe that he can tell them of a lying wonder Well but all judgement is given to the Son and by his light and spirit in them they assume to judge all error and bind all persons that oppose them as they tell me in his power thou art bound and thy error judged Themselves you see are set in the Throne of Christ and under the notion of a Christ they are judgeing the whole world but if all judgement be given to the Son of man in them whom they hold is not distinct from themselves then men must honour their persons as they honour the Father and every knee must bow to them in Heaven and Earth Christ came not to judge the world but that the world should be saved through him while the day of salvation lasteth Nay he forbids this judging Judge not lest you be judged and will they say that the person of Christ is come from heaven and appears in his Majesty and Glory with his mighty Angels in them why do they not command the dead to arise and appear before them and receive their everlasting Doom but they will sooner deny the resurrection and say it 's past already with Hymeneus and Philetus then raise one dead Corps to life again But let them tell us plainly how Christ is the sole Judge of error and how persons are judged in the time of Grace by Christ in them if not by his word that shall judge all at the last day that reject it and not receive it by what then They say the light of Christ Ausw 1. Are not the holy Scriptures a light given to the Church by Christ the head thereof 2. Christ is to be considered in his person and natures simply or in his Authority and divine operations vertually There is not any whom Christ dwells in by his person and natures for so he is farre above all heavens at the right hand of God Act. 7. And it is blasphemy to say that Christ is in them by his person as God and man and to deny the glorified body of Christ that God hath raised from the dead as the Quakers do and will not allow the Divinity of Christ any other union with his humane Nature but what he hath with his body the Church is a pernicious blasphemous opinion also for by this they make all the particular bodies of his Saints to be but one and that the Godhead is in them bodily so that the Saints are God and man in one person as Howgill Borrough and others commonly spaeke And hence they judge that Christs sufferings in them makes satisfaction for all their own sins and so make the death of Christ in that body that suffered at Jerusalem of none effect as to satisfaction and salvation they call him a Christ without which was but a type and figure of this Christ within but to leave these Infidell Dreams I told you that Christ is to be considered in his Authority as revealed unto us in his word by commands backed with promises and Precedents for to encourage to obedience And 2. His Commands are guarded with menaces and threats and with Precedents of Gods executing his judgements upon transgressors for the terror of those that shall transgresse afterwards And this written word of God is the sole Judge of error given by Christ to that very end And those Divine operations and workings of Christ in the hearts of those whom he doth quicken with his speciall renewing grace doe work up his peoples spirits to a willing obedience to his holy rule prescribed in the holy Scriptures Now for them to say that the power and workings of Christ in his chosen and the gifts of grace he gives to them is Christ and the eternall word that made the world is such a frenzie that cannot be expressed as if every influence and operation the Sun hath upon the Earth upon Plants and all other creatures so farre distant and distinct from it were the Sun or as if every drop of water that the clouds exhale out and scatter from the Sea was the Sea or as if the gift was the giver but we may question whether they that thus spake of a Christ in them that made the World know any thing of Christ or of themselves as they ought to know at all In the next place they tell me Thou in thy dark mind talkest of the Revelations of Christ and the Apostles Doctrine and the Christians life and the ground of their obedience all which thou thou art a stranger to as is manifest by these thy following words Namely where I writ to them thus That God hath ordained the holy Scriptures alone to be the object of Faith and ground of all our obedience and serving of God and to do any religious service to God out of any other rule or principle is but Will-worship and to follow the imaginations of our own hearts serving the Divell and not God Unto this they Answer With the eternall word of God that was from the beginning art thou judged to be none of Abrahams seed and art raised out from his faith to which thou art a stranger for it had an object before the Scripture was written in which faith he see Christs day who is the object of our faith and ground of our obedience Heb. 11.16 c. And in his light we see thee to be in the Will-worship who obeyes from another ground and walks after the imaginations of thy own heart which leads thee to worship the Devill in bringing forth the many lies in this paper which he hath begotten in thee who is the Father of lies My reply to theirs is In these lines the spirit in them moved very strongly as the indifferent Reader may easily judge by their insolent rash censures and ignominious crimes they reproach me with for my asserting that which every one that is a Christian can do no lesse then own namely That God hath ordained the holy Scriptures alone to be the object of faith and ground of all our obedience and serving of God c. For this I am sentenced by the eternall word to be none of Abraham's seed and rased from his faith But 1. How shall I be sure they received this sentence from the eternall word which they have pronounced against me it being so directly contrary to what Christ hath forbidden Judge not lest you be judged Mat. 7. And they themselves say in their Answer to the Question we are upon That the Revelations of Christ are according to Scripture if this judging came to them by Revelation from Christ how will you make it to accord and be reconcileable with Scripture I but say they Thou art judged
things upon the Crosse in whom the Godhead dwelt bodily and from whom all that any hath is received he was the Lamb of God that takes away the sinnes of the world by offering up himself an oblation once for all the just for the unjust that he might bring us unto God and obtain an eternall redemption for us and yet this insolent polluted lying worme makes himself equall in perfection with Christ the only Son of the living God You may see of what spirit your leaders are of and how unlike the Prophets and Apostles these are which cause you to erre by their lies But why is it thus with you that you should be left of God to heap up to your selves such perverse teachers that reproach the ordinances and institutions of our Lord as heathenish and the wisdome of the flesh and outward observations which Christs Kingdome comes not in But the Kingdome of Heaven is within you Luk 17. say they But where are the commands institutions and appointments of Christ to his Church called Observations the Pharises to whom Christ spake had such expectations touching the Kingdome and coming of the Messiah that he should come in great power and pomp like unto earthly Potentates and so redeeme Israel from that bondage they were in hence Christ tells them the Kingdome of Heaven comes not in observations but is within you look into your old Bibles and in the margin it is rendred or among you and as others the Kingdome of heaven is in the midst of you according to the Originall You may see that he gave his Apostles charge to teach all that came under Baptisme to observe and doe all the Commands of Christ Mat. 28.29 and in so doing they had the promise of his presence to give his blessings alwaies but these seducers say Christ is not in outward forms and observations as they in derision call the Ordinances and Institutions of Gospel Worship Christ walks in the midst of the seven Golden Candlesticks and commands our observance in the duties of his own institute Worship with the promise of his presence alwayes they say no Christ is not here but he is within you without all this adoe teaching men to break the Commands of Christ which the faithfull in all ages have been so carefull and zealous in the observing thereof and have witnessed unto with their bloud against both heathenish and Antichristian persecutors Dear friends be not deceived with vain words but bethink with your own hearts from what you are fallen how could you quench out the light and fire of the Spirit in you that you have received with such evident conviction that hath thrown down all before it and acted you twentie years to make conscience of the Commands of Christ both private and publike what conflictings of Spirit and sinnings against light and hardening your hearts against Gods fear and the strivings of his Spirit have you withstood and resisted before you could sin and be quiet in the wilfull neglect of all duties of Christianity what hath your backslidings been You first fell off from Infant Baptisme then from the publike ministry then from Water Baptisme it self and from all the Ordinances in the Church cavilling against all formes of Worship and then to speak diminishingly of the holy Scriptures and at length to forsake all means whatever and to pretend an immediate living in God in the neglect of all things commanded in the word But when you attain to live upon an immediate blessing of Divine Providence without plowing and sowing eating and drinking and cloathing in order to the preserving the life of nature then you may think to live immediately upon God to the preserving the life of Grace and not till then God hath appointed the use of means for the life and growth in Grace as of the life of the body and your diligence and care for the preserving the life of nature will condemne your negligence and presumption in the other in that day when God shall judge the secrets of men by the Gospell of Christ What promises doth God make to any to give them his Spirit and happinesse without enquiring after God in wayes of his own prescribing The most freest promises made to the Church of the Jewes Ezek. 36. are bounded with this Provise Yet will I be inquired of by you for all these things Chouse of Israel but the way and method you are taught is contrary you must cease from all religious duties of commanded Worship without scruple or check of Conscience before you can enjoy God and be taught immediately what to doe first put out the true light and power of Conscience to do its office by neglecting or despising the means of enlightning and convincing it to act in the soul and then resolve to follow the immediate commands of Conscience without questioning the Author of these laws at all Oh depth of deceit and delusion and yet obvious to those that are not in these snares and were it not that there is a spirituall judgement upon the heart for former coldnesse people should not be left to such thick darknesse and blindnesse from which they are moved to deny their former forwardnesse in holy observances and belie the Lord in saying they never received God by frequenting the publick ministry and ordinances which are called by them outward observations being very zealous to asperse that good way themselves have given good encouragement and been an ensample to others to follow Is it not an evil with a witnesse to fall off from Christian obedience your selves have with zeale and good conscience been forward and active in but you must now renounce and deny the good ways of the Lord and disswade others from walking therein can this be from the same Spirit that called you out of darknesse to the light of Grace and out of profaneness wherein you all had your conversation in the dayes of youth and vanitie to serve the blessed God religiously in all good Conscience and holy sear above twentie years if this great change of heart and life was the work of God from whom is this change of mind now that moves you to deny the things that have been wrought do you think that God is contrary to himself or do you think that all those inclinations to holinesse and constancie in wayes of righteousnesse to do Gods will were from the Devil Well consider what you have been and how contrary minded you are now to what you were to change from worse to better is highly commendable but to change from better to wore is the highest of desperate folly but to despise and reproach those things of God once received is most desperate and dangerous But I must hasten The Second Question propounded WHether any other Revelations and observances not to be found in the Scriptures be as binding to the Conscience as the holy Scriptures are or whether such Revelations and Dictates within a mans heart and soul be as binding to a
the visible Church of Christ that are under the Doctrine and ordinances of the grace of the Covenant many are called but few are chosen And these Impostors and Perverters of the new Covenant that teach that all have the Lawes of the new Covenant writ in their hearts may as truly say that all have the promises thereof writ in their hearts then which nothing is more absurd therefore I conclude that as the promises of the Covenant are upon Divine record that we may have hope for our selves and children so likewise is the rule that we are to conforme unto in order to the receiving of the spirituall blessings promised In the next place to excuse their rash insolent censures they assume to themselves To be the spiritual man that judgeth all things and thereupon by their light they say that my blindnesse and deceit is seen and judged who accuseth them of waving the Scripture-authority as if they were out of date Answ And let the World judge what use they make of the Authority of holy Scriptures that have in plain terms denyed them to be the perfect rule of faith and obedience as you have seen before and not many lines off again where they judge me they say The Spirit and light of Christ in them which they witnesse is absolutely binding and the sole judge of error for to him is all judgement given Joh. 5.22 Thus you see they set up another Rule to be sole judge of error and yet they judge me for accusing them falsely But this is but the same in other words which they have urged and I have answered already in the first Question There they say the Spirit is the rule here the light of Christ in them the sole judge of error for they make the light within the law in the heart the Spirit and Christ the exercise of the conscience to be all one and they quote Scriptures meerly to delude the simple and to colour over their real delusions and deceits for if the Spirit and the immediate Revelations of Christ in the heart be the only rule and sole judge of error to what end do they prove it by Scriptures for that which is the sole Judge of error is infallible of it self and needs not any demonstration but faith to believe it that it is so and their going to the Scriptures to prove the Spirit to be the rule in that very thing they make the Scriptures the absolute rule and therein contradict all they say If Christ in them be the sole judge of truth and error why do they make such a noyse of Scripture expressions can they not speak in the Authority of that Christ within them unlesse they fill up their Revelations with those borrowed expressions of the Scriptures which they call a dead Letter that killeth Certainly in the secret of their Consciences they are convinced that the holy Scriptures are the sole Judge of error they being given by the Inspiration of God and the word that we shall be judged by at the last day Joh. 12.48 although they reject it from being the Judge of error now because it crosses their idle proud fancies and itching humors to set up something of their own brain in their Apostate condition and therefore like condition like rule rather then they will repent and return to the right Rule they will set up a Rule of their own making that shall please them better but what will they do in the end thereof Because they had not executed my judgements but despised my statutes and polluted my Sabbaths c. wherefore I gave them statutes also that were not good and judgements whereby they should not live and the Lord polluted them in their own Gifts c. Ezek. 20.24 25. The Lord give them hearts to consider the judgement of God upon such that despise the judgements statutes and Sabbaths the Lord hath commanded in his word Was this judgement of the Lord inflicted for the despising the judgements and Statutes and Sabbaths that were written in their own hearts think you no but for the despising and breaking the statutes lawes and ordinances commanded to be writ and taught the people by Moses and the Prophets as innumerable Texts do evince But while they quote Scripture although they deny it for a rule let us not be beaten with our own weapon and therefore give me leave to examine their quotations to prove the spirituall man and the light of Christ within to be the sole judge of error distinct from the Scriptures The 1 Cor. 2.14 15. them that are spirituall are put in opposition to the naturall man the one knows approves and judges of spiritual things the other receives not the things of the Spirit nor can he know them because they are spiritually discerned the spirituall man hath his senses exercised to discerne and judge of things that differ but it is no where said he doth this without the rule of the word that gives that discovery The spirituall man as well as all others may not judge his brother nor another mans servant for we must all appear before the Judgement seat of Christ our Lord and Master and all judgement is committed to the Son that men may honour the Son as they honour the Father Joh. 5. as they quote hence they inferre that Christ is the sole judge of error Indeed Christ as he is the Son of man God and Man in one person who hath ascended farre above all heavens sitting at the right hand of God from thence shall he come in the clouds of Heaven with his mighty Angels in flames of fire to render vengeance on the disobedient to the Gospell Because God hath appointed him a day in which he shall judge the World in righteousnesse even by that man whom he hath ordained whereof God hath given assurance to all men in that he hath raised him from the dead Act. 17.31 We believe that Jesus Christ shall come in his day with that very same body that suffered death upon the Crosse and was raised from the dead the third day and he shall judge the whole world of mankind that ever were even all those that are in the Graves shall hear his voice and shall come forth the righteous to the resurrection of everlasting life and the wicked to the resurrection of condemnation Joh. 5.28 29. And let these seduced people take notice of Joh 12.28 29 He that receiveth not my words saith Christ hath one that judgeth him the word that I have spoken the same shall judge him at the last day And this word of Christ they reject from being the rule of faith and obedience but whether they will or no they must stand to the judgement of this word of Christ which he hath spoken at the last day William Dusbury tells us that the mighty day of the Lord is appeared in the North of England and is arising towards the South and shall overspread this Nation and all Nations of the world What
Rom. 2. God will judge the secrets of men by the Gospell which I all along plead to be the only rule of faith and obedience and you have denyed it as to that and and set up another rule which God commands not You accuse me of many lies but why do you not prove it and evidently convince me of one by the Authority of Scriptures or else own the accusation to be false and from the Devill that overpowers you to blaspheme the truth But to proceed In the Answer to my question they say the Revelations of Christ are according to Scripture c. In my reply I told them that the Revelations of Christ that are according to Scriptures are either texts of Scripture expressed or rationall deductions consequences and conclusions that naturally flow from particular passages of Scriptures the which said I is Scripture and not any other Revelations can be pleaded for a Rule Their answer to this is little to the purpose Here say they Thou hast made thy self manifest to all the children of light to be a stranger to the Revelations of Christ Jesus which they witnessed who thereby was taught the Gospell and knew the Son revealed by the Father and the brightnesse of his coming who reveals the man of sin which was not done by rationall deductions nor by Texts of Scriptures which thou hast got to talk of 2 Thes 2 3.8 2 Cor. 1.1.7 My Answer 1. That the Holy Scriptures are the Revelations of the Spirit of Jesus Christ is without all doubt and they teach the whole counsell of God necessary to every good work and of salvation in all righteousnesse 2 Tim. 3.16 2 Pet. 1.21 Rev. 1.1 2. Those Revelations of Christ that are according to Scriptures as their Answer to the Question is must be such that accord and are reconcileable with the current and stream of Scriptures at least they must not clash nor crosse the streame of Scripture if they answer as they really think and then why do they deny the Scriptures to be a perfect Rule and set up the Spirit within to be the only Rule if the Revelations of Christ within are according to Scriptures then it will follow that those Revelations are to be examined by Scripture rule to try whether they accord with Scripture yea or no and then they make the Scripture the Rule which in plain terms they have denyed to be the Rule Therefore we may conclude their Answer is deceitfull say one thing and mean another For following them in my first replie to this as before they very discreetly passe it by with silence and catch at my mentioning of Scripture consequences c. otherwise then was intended which I shall speak to anon There is one thing which I think I may do well to informe the Reader of as touching their Answer though they intend it not That the Revelations of Christ are according to Scripture in this respect namely Christ revealing himself to the soul by his powerfull working quickning enlightning strengthning comforting and the like all which are the Revealings and communications of Christ to the soul in his Divine workings all which is according to his Word we must look for all spirituall and temporall promises of good things we want in the written word but look for the fulfilling of the good things promised in our selves by the powerfull workings and Divine givings of the Son of Gods and in that way and by what means himself hath appointed and prescribed in his word as there is the revelation of light in the Scripture so there must be the revealings of Christs power to give sight to the eyes of the soul before any be able to see the mysteries of the Gospell unto salvation The promise of a new heart and giving repentance is the Revelation of Scripture but the renewing of the heart and make it to repent indeed is done by the mighty power of Christ in the heart which all that have it are in some measure sensible of The spirit of Christ by the word reveals the rule unto us and the same Spirit by his powerfull workings revealed in us works up our hearts to a willing conformity to the rule as I have said before They talk how that Antichrist was not revealed by deductions nor texts of Scriptures by what then How shal we know what that man of sin is and who but by Scripture I think those that are against Scripture are against Christ that by his Spirit gave them forth for the comfort hope and instruction of his Church and by their opposing the Revelations of Christ in Scriptures themselves may be the man of sin they talk of in setting up another rule and teaching another Gospell contrary to what the Apostles preached and writ But they are ready to catch at my expressions of Scripture consequences although I used them in favour of their own answer had they been reall in it but you see they are so farre from owning of consequences drawn from the Scriptures that they have denyed the whole Scriptures from being a Christians Rule Their quotations are against them unlesse they can prove that they received their Gospell by the Revelations of Christ as Paul did or that themselves have the Spirit from the mouth of Christ that reveals the man of sin It satisfieth me that we have the very same Gospell in writing that Paul received by the revelation of Christ and that we have that word that came from the mouth of Christ that discovers all errors and deceivers of whom not any more obvious then themselves And that the Quakers deny the Scriptures is evident by this Argument They that deny all consequences drawn from Scriptures deny the Scriptures but the Quakers deny all consequences drawn from Scriptures therefore the Quakers deny the Scriptures The Minor is clear they will not deny it The Major is to be proved T is certain the Scriptures were writ many ages before this of ours and were particularly directed and given first to the Church of the Jewes then secondly to the Churches of the believing Gentiles in the Apostles age that it is by consequence that we in our times can challenge a propriety and interest in the use and benefit of them because not any part thereof was given directly unto any that are now alive but were given to the whole Church of whom we are added to and grafted in by Faith and therefore as we are of the Church we have a propriety in the Churches privile●ges of which the holy Scriptures are a principall part There is the same reason of all particulars in the Scriptures as they are directed to particular persons in the Church of whatsoever qualitie condition relation any are in for whatsoever was written to any directly as such by consequence is writ to all such and of the same kind where there is the same equality of reason and the like circumstances concurring And hence we may still say whatever were written before time
But their pride will be their ruine And the Lord will rebuke the madnesse of these Prophets and they are in the same way of perishing as in the gainsaying of Corab But dear friends I hope that there is that fear of God in your hearts that will preserve you from running out into these desperate heresies as to deny the holy Scriptures to be the Rule and ground of faith and obedience For you know deny the Authority of Scriptures the only boundary of truth and the only Touch-stone that every spirit and opinion is to be tryed by then all shall be left to follow the imaginations of their own idle heads and act as their deceitfull hearts shall suggest then they that can get the greatest confidence conceitednesse and strongest fancies and the impudentest tongues to vent their own inventions will be the only men for the true Religion and then who can tell what is truth and who are guided by the spirit of God and who by the Devill The very denying the Authority of the Scriptures bringeth all into confusion and heathenisme inevitably Cast off that which God hath ordained to direct us then the Devil will put in to mislead into all error and how shall any be able to know his workings and temptations from the pure workings of God for our good when the authority of the Scriptures are laid aside Nay who can be certain of any things in himself or in others that they please God when I or they cannot be certain they are ordained of God to that end if you lay aside the Authority of Scriptures And how just is it for God to punish the hearts of men with all spirituall delusions blindness and error and to let Satan loose upon mens souls when they cast off that which God hath given to direct and instruct in all righteousnesse and to every good work as 1 Tim. 3. You know how it is said that he that provideth not for his own hath denyed the faith as to that particular duty which the Doctrine of faith teacheth and is worse then an Infidell What would the Apostle have said of these that deny the whole Doctrine and Rule of Faith and yet have been once Christians sure they are worse than Infidells and it had been better they had never known the way of righteousnesse then after they have known it to turn from the holy Commandements of the Lord delivered unto them by word or writing 2 Pet. 2.20 see chap. 3.1.2 wherein the Apostle endevoured to stirre up their pure minds by way of remembrance that they might be mindsul of the words that were spoken before by the holy Prophets and of the Commandements of us the Apostles of the Lord and Saviour which comprehends the whole Scriptures of old and new Testament on which the Church is built the Scriptures are and in them do contain the Oracles of God which is a great advantage and preferment to those they are committed unto beyond all others Rom. 2.1 2. To them is the Covenant and the promises and the service of God chap. 9. And whatever were writ before time was writ for our learning that the Church of God through patience and comfort of the Scriptures might have hope Rom. 15. Whereas on the other hand those that are denyed the Scriptures are Aliens from the Common wealth of Israel and strangers to the Covenant of Promise and without hope and God in the world Ephes 2.12 as is clear of the like Infidel state that the Ephesians were in before their conversion to Christianity I tell you to deny the Scriptures is the desperatest error that any mortals can possibly plunge themselves into having once professed them such I am sure forsake their own mercies and judge themselves unworthy of eternall life by despising the Gospel of Christ contained in the Scriptures they slight the everlasting Covenant of Grace and all the promises writ in the Book of God there being not a promise made to any in the world but what is in the Scripture nor can any expect that God will give that which he doth not promise to any Let them tell me what promises are writ in the heart that deny the Scripture to be the only rule of faith and obedience if they be without the promise then they are without hope and God in the world as the poor Indians are if not worse by denying that which they have the means to know nay have known and been convinced and rejoyced in the spiritual blessings promised but now wilfully deny them and reject them as not to be believed that are written for the great comfort of the Lords people I tell you friends these miserable Worms uncovenant themselves and unchrist themselves as if they cared not for grace and mercie in their standing before God In denying the Scripture they deny all that grace and mercy that is writ there for the comfort and hope of poor penitent finners If the Scriptures shall be denyed their Authority by them then it will follow that they have removed the Lords antient bounds and the only Judge of all error What is heresie but the broaching of errors and vain opinions and practices contrary to the holy Lawes and Institutions of God recorded in Scriptures in taking away the rule they are involved in all heresie whatever for God will not be any otherwayes known trusted in worshiped and obeyed then himself hath taught and prescribed us in his word When men dare think of God after their own fancies and believe in him after their vain minds and worship God as seems good in their own eyes as all do that deny the Scripture to be a perfect Rule no wonder that they make God like themselves and themselves like God and that they preach another Gospell and set up another Christ and fancie another Heaven and another day of judgement and another Law and Rule to try all things by If men cease to be Christians and forsake the rules of Christianity while they continue to be men and have any sparks of immortality in them they will be doing in one way or other in order to eternity But will you receive these seducers into your houses and bid them God speed that deny the only Rule of righteousnesse and not be partakers with them Judge ye And can a greater proof and demonstration be given against any that they are Impostors and deceivers false teachers then this that in plain terms will deny the Authority of the holy Scriptures to be the only Rule of faith and obedience as those do which you receive and adhere unto which is a confirmation to me of the truth and Divine approbation of the publike ministry that you have forsaken when I observe what teachers you follow even those that deny the Authority of Scriptures And should our Teachers deny the Authority of holy Scriptures to be the Rule of faith and obedience and set up their own fancies to be the Rule as they do which you adhere
of Righteousnesse and true godlinesse are inclined in charity to hope well of you that there is some good at the bottome and life at the root that will spring forth again and make you instrumentall by your sad experiences to warn others The Third Question propounded WHether any thing besides the holy Scriptures is constituted of the blessed God to reveal Jesus Christ as Redeemer and Saviour to the Spirits of sinfull miserable lost man to bring up men to happinesse On whether lost man without the knowledge of Christ as the Scriptures reveal him may attain unto salvation yea or no. The Quakers Answer None can come to Christ but whom the Father drawes by his unlimited power nor know the Father but he whom the Son reveals him and he that thinks to attain the way to eternall life by reading the Letter of Scripture and regards not the light which comes from Christ that witnesseth for God in the secret of the heart and Conscience deceivs himself for the mystery of eternall life is sealed up in the sealed Book which none shall know by the outward Testimonie of Scripture but by the Inspiration of the Spirit of Christ who is the way the truth and the life to all that in his light wait his power them to guide in faithfull obedience to the Righteous and perfect Law of God written in the heart for the exercise of the Conscience which keeps them void of offence towards God and men according to Testimonie of Scripture Act. 24.16.23.1 My Reply Their Answer to my third Question falls upon other Questions but gives no direct Answer at all for the question doth not exclude the power and grace of the Father and the Son from mans attaining unto salvation but is of another thing namely whether faln lost man without the knowledge and use of the Scriptures may in an ordinary way know Christ as Mediator and be saved by him or thus whether God hath and doth exercise his power and Spirit in bringing corrupt man to the knowledge of Christ as Redeemer and believe in him to eternall life without the use and knowledge of the Scriptures ordinarily The Question is not of extraordinary cases and of Gods unlimited power who can do more then he hath any where revealed he will doe but it is of his ordinary course and power that is limited by his word of truth to do what he will in order to the blessednesse of those that wait upon him in those wayes and in the use of such means himself hath appointed in his holy word all other stamps and forms pretending to the knowledge of God and religious worshipping of him or of being saved by Christ are but the superstitious births of deluded fancies that tend to the deceiving and ruin of a mans self and others Their Answer to this is but dark and to little purpose only they say That their Answer doth stand as a witnesse against me and declares the way to the Father and the Son according to Scriptures Matth. 11.27 Joh. 6.44 Which they say my dark mind is a stranger unto who am querying of Gods constituting ordinary means of salvation and of his ordinary way of working to reveal Christ as Redeemer which say they are unlearned Questions and to be condemned with the light which reproves the world of sin and leads to the Son who is the Redeemer and way to the Father Joh. 14.6 Which way is but one and condemnation you must own unlesse thou canst shew us a Scripture that speaks of ordinary and extraordinary way of Gods exercising his power and Spirit or of a limited power of God which words proceed from thy dark Imaginations and not grounded upon Scripture are concluded to be the births of the deluded fancie you speak of Answ By all this we may judge the sum of their Answer amounts to this That my Question is unlearned and to be condemned with the light which reproves the world of sin and leads to the Son immediately without the help of those means God hath appointed to that end and therefore as before the Scriptures and Ordinances therein commanded are not of necessity but this pretended light and Spirit and unlimited power of God is to be attended upon only not regarding any ordinary means whatever though such as God himself hath appointed and doth only reveal in his word as if all those ordinary and usuall helps that God himself commands in his word for men to use to come to the knowledge of Christ and how to be saved by him were superfluous or opposite to the knowing of him c. although the Scriptures were written and all Instructions therein contained for our learning that we might have comfort and hope all others that have not the use and benefit of Scriptures have no hope and without God in the world as hath been spoken to already and yet this they say is an unlearned Question but surely they say so because they know not how to give a direct Answer to it in plainnesse but it wil lay them open to the weakest judgements to be against Christ as Redeemer as the Scriptures teach him which few would hearken unto should they speak plainly But let all men judge of what Spirit these men are of that condemns the Questions as propounded by the light which condemns the world of sin But let them first discover what sin is in these Questions before they rashly condemn them Secondly let them tell us what light is that which reproves for sin if not the mind of Christ and the voice of the Spirit revealed in the Scriptures Thirdly let them prove that the light which they condemn the Questions with is the true light of Christ or else who will regard them How dare those proud Worms condemne the things they know not how to answer but by denying the holy Scriptures and what they teach But what light is that that leads to the Son who is the Redeemer while you disown the light of Scriptures to be the Rule to make out this high discovery Did you ever know or hear of any since Scriptures were that have attained to know Christ as Redeemer and to believe in him to salvation that never heard of Christ by Scriptures or Scripture ministry Doth not the Apostle determine absolutely as to this case and question by severall interrogations Rom. 10. How shall they call on him of whom they have not believed and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not so much as heard of and how can they hear without a preacher and how can they preach except they be sent c. And doth he not conclude from these interrogations that faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of God he urging that necessity of hearing the word of God in order to faith without which it cannot be And therefore it was that he queries the Galatians thus Received ye the Spirit by the Law or by faith preached not by the Law but by
Lawes of God are nigh unto God and great above all other Nations by way of priviledge And to what end were the Lawes of God given unto them and us but that we should know them and do them for our good chap. 10.12 13. See chap. 11.18 19. The use of the outward is a means of the inward where God gives the blessing And for those that have not the benefit of the outward writings of the Prophets and Apostles or have them and yet regard them not as it is written is too palpable a sign that they are strangers from the Law of God in the heart as it is a blessing of the new Covenant We know the written Law was given to the people by the hands of a Mediator and not against the promise but subservient to the receiving of the benefits and blessings thereof And therefore let them shew us what other Covenant that is to which pertains the perfect Law in the heart distinct from the outward writing and how the outward declaration is under one Covenant and the Lawes of God in the heart under another they being both the same as is confessed but whether they understand all the same in the heart as is in force in the holy Scriptures I suspect for they wave the answer of that whereas the whole of what the Scripture plainly teacheth is in the hearts of the Lords people to believe love and do with an equall respect as the Scripture is plain in By evangelicall discoveries they carp at and judge as unlearned and to be condemned which I do much admire knowing that themselves are no strangers to the phrase and sense nor unacquainted with those Scriptures that give such discoveries of the person natures offices of a redeeming Christ that never any have attained unto and discovered either by word or writing which never had nor heard of the help of the Gospel as contained in the Scriptures And for them to condemne me for putting the Question unlesse I can prove by Scripture those things of Christ argues their denyall of them which to do seems to me no lesse then to deny the true Christ anointed of God and fitted to performe the work of mans redemption in his own body once offered by the eternall Spirit that he might bring sinners to God Had he not a body given him which was sacrificed unto death was buryed rose again and ascended into Heaven as Scriptures witnesse And was he not a person Pilate's wife acknowledged him a just person Matth. 27.24 And Paul forgave in the person of Christ 2 Cor. 2.10 and to his humane nature is united his Divine which the Saints are said to partake of in its speciall and peculiar workings upon their hearts the word made flesh in that he took not the nature of Angels but the seed of Abraham born of a Virgin c. truely God and truely man in one person and his offices of Prophet Priest and King as evident according to Scripture that not any but Infidels and malicious Apostates will deny But I hasten And I doubt not but that all that have the Law writ in their hearts by vertue of the new Covenant shall be saved that being the same with a new heart regenerate and quickned by the grace of God and not any other although they have the use of Scriptures much lesse those that are denyed the ordinary use and benefit thereof as they reveal Christ the Redeemer to the world without knowing and believing in shall perish But Christians I pray you mark what a Christ these men fancy to themselves as Redeemer that have condemned me with the light that gave forth the Scripture for querying whether the light that is in all in the world gives the discovery of the person natures and offices of Christ unlesse the Scriptures doe prove them why do not they know that the Scriptures do give this Gospell discovery if they will own it as I am sure they cannot be ignorant of it Why do they put me to the proof condemning the Query as unlearned because I ask whether those that have not the use of Scripture have a sufficient Gospel light to give this discovery If they deny it as I believe they do then judge what a Christ they frame in their imaginations that is without person natures and offices whether he be that very same Christ that was equal with God and took upon him the forme of a Servant made in the likenesse of men and being found in the fashion as a man he humbled himself and became obedient unto death even the death of the Crosse Phil. 2.7 8. That suffered in the flesh the just for the unjust to bring us unto God 1 Pet. 3.18 I tell you did not these deceivers fear the Authority of man that hath put forth an Act against Blasphemy more then the Authority of God in Scriptures they would speak out in plain terms and deny the person natures and offices of Christ and so deny Christ himself who is not at all a Mediator and Redeemer on the behalf of lost man but by his person natures and offices c. And therefore it is wel that fear of man will stop the mouth of blasphemy But mark they cannot condemn the Question as unlearned by the Authority and light of Scripture which are undoubtedly the Inspirations of God but their insolence carries them higher then the light of Scripture Inspirations namely to a light in themselves by which they condemn the mysteries of Christ in the work of Redemption which the Scriptures so plainly teach But what light is this that condems the query They answer the light that gave forth the Scriptures Reply God is light and the Scriptures are the Inspirations of God doth it follow that the light in man is that God that gave the Scriptures when can you prove that the light in man gave forth the Scriptures if you cannot prove it by what Authority do you assert it The Fourth Question propounded WHether that light of Conscience which is more or lesse in all since the fall be the Remainder or Reliques left in man of the first Adam in reference to the Covenant of works or whether common to all from the Redemption of the second Adam as flowing from the Covenant of Grace or how else I desire your clear Answer The Quakers Answer Man in his fallen estate hath not any light remains in him to guide him to do any thing pleasing to God as he stands in the state of corrupt nature for all his righteousnesse is as filthy rags The light that convinceth men of the evill of their hearts and discovers the filthinesse of their own Righteousnesse is the light that comes from Christ the true light that lighteneth every one that cometh into the world Joh. 1.9 And this light is not common to men by nature it is the great gift of God his grace that hath appeared unto all men c. Tit. 2.11 My Reply The Answer to my
from all that knowledge got from the letter and carnall teachings of mans wisdome as they call it they bid them be dead to all these and then they shall be in the way to be taught of God and lead on to eternall life and perfection All you that are Christians and know any thing of the things of Christs Kingdome may run and read that the very height of their attainments and perfections endeavoured after is nothing else but downright Apostasie putting darknesse for light and light for darknesse who out of a blind zeal from that very mistake forsake the Lord and those helps and means himself hath appointed to lead men on in the wayes of light and life and chuse their own delusions untill Satan captivate them at his pleasure who hath suggesfed and fill'd their hearts with all those abhorred lies as you have seen which fall down flat before the simplicity of truth as the Scriptures teach as Dagon before the Ark of God as in some competent measure hath already been discovered But to return to the text in hand let us now examine things further The substance of what I have writ hath been to shew how Christ is the light of the world and by what wayes and means he communicates the true light of spirituall life to the saving of the souls of sinners and without which ordinary wayes and means himself hath designed to that end as his words and holy Ordinances dispensed accordingly not any can be said to be lightned by Christ as the Text intends and they must confesse it cannot be understood in a universall sense that Christ lightneth every man that ever was is and shall be in the world from the beginning to the end for there is a great part of mankind that come into the world and go out of it again that never had so much as the use of reason as Insants and fools nay some never were lighted with the light of nature as those that are born blind and therefore reason doth force them to put in some limitation why not that which I have contended for seeing it is so much agreeing with the light of other Scriptures The state of man in corrupt nature your selves consesse is darknesse which is the state of all the heathen and unbelievers every where And then again you say this light is from Christ and is not common to man by nature it is the great gift of God his Grace that hath appeared unto all men and teacheth all that are guided by it as in your Answ Tit. 2.12 Now say I if it be such a light of Christ that is not common to men by nature but a gift of Gods Grace that in the Apostolicall Churches hath appeared to all men by the preaching of the Gospel the word of Gods Grace as they quote then it followes that themselves restrain the Text to the same limit and sense that I have cleared for by this in Titus they have explained what their sense is of the other and this of Titus is spoken of the Doctrine of the Gospel which by the grace of God was manifested in those times and places writ unto by the preaching of the Gospel the rules and directions contained therein so teacheth all men every where as in particular by his Epistle he had instructed them as the particulars instanced in is obvious to any indifferent eye that reads the Epistle And therefore against their wills you see sometimes they will speak truth though they intend not the truth but a shew of countenancing their error because here they find the word All which proves not a universality in that place as themselves dream even while they say this light is the gift of God his grace to all universally and yet say is not common to men by nature for man by nature is darknesse and hath no light in him c. then it followes that by the gift of Gods grace which all men in the state of nature are enlightned withall is common to all by gift that are but in the state of nature and wherein doth this differ from that which you say that it is not common to men by nature what is the nature of man in generation but the gift of God distinguished from the nature of all other sensitive living creatures Is not the rationall soul of man common to men by nature and yet is Gods created gift in common to all that by nature are born alive in the world and what ever all have by gift is of grace in a true sense But what is this to the light of Christ to enlighten and save the world when this gift as to the end of saving is peculiarly limited and intended to them only that upon the discovery and tender of his person and merit believe in him to eternall life Joh. 3. And this discovery of his person and merit knowes no man but by the only ministry of the word of Christ and the Apostles as hath been proved We usually understand what gift is common to all in the state of nature that is a common gift in all by nature not excluding the God of mans nature from whom all good givings come to the Sons of men But it remains still to prove that Christ is given for light and salvation in common to all universally so that every one in the world may be saved by him that will and that this light of Christ is nothing else but the writing of the Law of God in the heart which the heathens in some measure all have and doth shew amongst whom Christ is not so much as named much lesse-known to eternall life This is life eternall to know the true God and Jesus Christ whom he hath sent Doubtlesse the Spirit of God in Scripture puts a difference between person and person by nature we that are Jewes by nature and not sinners of the Gentiles c. Gods Covenant and promises to the Jewes Nation and their ingaging to service and worship according to Gods lawes in writing gives them peculiar advantage by nature from the rest of the Gentile world they were separate from by an externall forme of Religion and profession of the true God which I conceive holds still of the visible professing Church of Christ that externally at least worship God in truth as the writings of the Prophets and Apostles teach And besides in the visible Church that have the same means and Covenant of promise and God nigh unto them the distinguishing grace of God makes a difference Many are outwardly thus called and yet but few elect and chosen to salvation Jacob and Esau in the Church by nature and yet the distinguishing will and pleasure of God made them to differ his free love to the one and not to the other before they had done either good or evill Not in him that willeth and runneth but in God that shewes mercy mans diligence is his duty but Gods blessing to mans diligence is Gods free mercy but now