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A90866 Theos anthrōpophoros. Or, God incarnate. Shewing, that Jesus Christ is the onely, and the most high God· In four books. Wherein also are contained a few animadversions upon a late namelesse and blasphemous commentary on the Epistle to the Hebrewes, published under the capital letters, G.M. anno Dom. 1647. In these four books the great mystery of man's redemption and salvation, and the wayes and means thereof used by God are evidently held out to the capacity of humane reason, even ordinary understandings. The sin against the Holy Ghost is plainly described; with the cases and reasons of the unpardonablenesse, or pardonablenesse thereof. Anabaptisme, is by Scripture, and the judgment of the fathers shewed to be an heinous sin, and exceedingly injurious to the Passion, and blood of Christ. / By Edm. Porter, B.D. sometimes fellow of St. John's Colledge in Cambridge, and prebend of Norwich. Porter, Edmund, 1595-1670.; Downame, John, d. 1652. 1655 (1655) Wing P2985; Thomason E1596_1; ESTC R203199 270,338 411

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4._o but_o the_o righteous_a when_o they_o once_o be_v in_o the_o possession_n of_o the_o joy_n of_o heaven_n shall_v see_v god_n as_o he_o be_v in_o his_o divine_a nature_n which_o divine_v call_v facialem_fw-la visionem_fw-la the_o beatifical_a vision_n see_v god_n face_n to_o face_n as_o it_o be_v say_v 1_o cor._n 13._o 12._o and_o then_o happy_o the_o distinct_a person_n of_o the_o father_n will_v be_v visible_a to_o eye_n glorify_v for_o then_o the_o saint_n shall_v be_v equal_a to_o the_o angel_n luke_n 20._o 36._o of_o who_o we_o shall_v read_v matth._n 18._o 10._o their_o angel_n do_v always_o behold_v the_o face_n of_o my_o father_n which_o be_v in_o heaven_n second_o that_o i_o do_v not_o take_v upon_o i_o peremptory_o to_o affirm_v that_o the_o person_n of_o god_n the_o father_n have_v never_o present_v himself_o in_o any_o corporeal_a or_o visible_a shape_n for_o how_o shall_v i_o know_v such_o a_o mystery_n and_o because_o i_o find_v that_o saint_n austin_n say_v n●mis_fw-la temerarium_fw-la est_fw-la dicere_fw-la 18_o aug._n de_fw-fr trin_n l._n 2._o c._n 17._o &_o 18_o patrem_fw-la nunquam_fw-la visum_fw-la pat●ibus_fw-la credibile_fw-la est_fw-la patrem_fw-la solitum_fw-la fuisse_fw-la apparere_fw-la mortalibus_fw-la i_o it_o be_v too_o much_o rashness_n to_o affirm_v that_o the_o father_n be_v never_o see_v nay_o it_o be_v credible_a that_o he_o use_v to_o appear_v to_o the_o patriarch_n and_o atbanasius_n say_v that_o although_o god_n be_v sometime_o see_v in_o the_o person_n of_o the_o son_n when_o he_o be_v not_o see_v in_o the_o person_n of_o the_o father_n yet_o he_o say_v also_o that_o at_o another_o time_n all_o the_o three_o person_n 24._o athan._n lib._n de_fw-la com._n essentia_fw-la n._n 24._o be_v see_v by_o abraham_n tres_fw-fr personae_fw-la sedebaent_fw-la apud_fw-la abraham_n i._n all_o the_o three_o person_n sit_v at_o abraham_n tent_n for_o what_o inconvenience_n will_v follow_v if_o god_n show_v his_o presence_n at_o the_o same_o time_n both_o in_o several_a place_n and_o also_o in_o several_a assume_v shape_n for_o he_o that_o be_v at_o all_o time_n real_o present_a in_o all_o place_n may_v also_o manifest_v his_o presence_n where_o and_o when_o and_o how_o he_o please_v it_o be_v confess_v that_o the_o person_n of_o the_o son_n assume_v a_o humane_a body_n and_o be_v see_v and_o at_o the_o same_o time_n the_o person_n of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n descend_v in_o the_o likeness_n of_o a_o dove_n matthew_n 3._o 17._o and_o then_o also_o the_o voice_n of_o the_o person_n of_o the_o father_n be_v hear_v and_o again_o matthew_n 17._o 5._o which_o divine_v say_v must_v needs_o be_v from_o the_o person_n of_o the_o father_n because_o the_o son_n of_o god_n be_v not_o the_o son_n of_o any_o other_o person_n but_o only_o of_o the_o father_n indeed_o it_o be_v say_v of_o