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A67619 An answer to certain seditious and Jesuitical queres heretofore purposely and maliciously cast out to retard and hinder the English forces in their going over into Ireland ... Waring, Thomas, 17th cent. 1651 (1651) Wing W872; ESTC R13161 43,770 74

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their homage to him who thereupon came and performed the same accordingly which was don in the year after our Saviour's nativitie 579 and this prove's a claim at least made by the Kings of great Britain to the Island of Ireland as part of their dominions Afterwards as is known to all men of anie reading the Saxons and Angles out of Germanie invaded great Britain and by manie contests in Arms and bloudie Battels obteined the Dominion thereof dividing it into several Kingdoms amongst themselvs which continued for manie years In all which times the Irish Inhabitants took more Libertie to root themselvs in their barbarous usurpation and tyrannie for wee cannot finde that then before or since they established anie certain Government either regal or otherwise neither are there extant anie authentick memories of anie certain or passable Laws ordeined by them for the regulating of anie Christian people yet soon after the Saxon's Heptarchie was reduced into an Entire Monarchie It is manifest by good Historie and Record that Edgar King of great Britain then and now called England not unmindful of that Kingdom 's ancient right and interest in Ireland labored and obteined another reducement and had the possession of most of that continent as appear's by the Books of that excellent writer Judg Cook extracted out of Records of the Tower Afterwards when the Danes obteined the Rule and power in great Britain they so little forgot the ancient and just challenge to Ireland as that they sent thither good numbers of men who gained large footing in several places of the best parts of the Island of whom there yet remain manie visible Monuments as their intrenchments and Fortifications to this daie called Danes Mounts or Rathes in Irish Lisses and round slender high Towers yet called Danes Steeples or Danes Towers yea the best and largest Suburbs about Dublin is yet called Ostmantown which term the Saxons gave to the Danes as Easterlings and doubtless it is their then access and som former incursions made by them as aforesaid which left manie of them there fixed who were the ancestors to the now pretended original Nation as pretended to bee given to them by God and Nature Afterwards the Norman William the Conqueror became possessed of the Dominions of England it is universally known what business hee had aswel to settle that so gained Land as to content his Allies and parties brought with him and to preserv what hee left behind him in France to which retrospect hee was enforced by manie disturbances and attempts neither is it unknown how unwarrantably his three next successors came to the Crown in England and against what counterworkings and heart-burnings they held Regencie there besides their distractions in their affairs and from their neighbors of France beeing not free from incumbrances of Scots and Welsh whereby all judicious men may conclude that none of them could safely embrace the restitution of Ireland howsoever it concerned them But assoon as one lineal descent had setled the Crown of England upon King Henry the second who was great Granchilde of the said William the Norman and who is recorded to bee the most powerful English Monarch both in England and France since the Normans coming in That King applied to the Pope for his consent to regain his said Land of Ireland who consenting thereunto to the end it might bee brought into orderly Government as well Ecclesiastical as Civil Hee yet suspended all action thither for som years beeing interrupted by his affairs in France and the disobedient combinations of his sons But after an occasion hapning by the invocation of one of the Irish pettie Kings hee permitted manie of his Subjects of England and Wales to pass thither who by their valor possessed themselvs of a good part of that Island Then in the year 1172 did that King with a competent Armie repair thither in person and resumed into his hands his ancient right of Dominion and interest there without much bloudshed and was therein confirmed by the absolute and free submissions of all the pettie Kings and other Rulers aswel Ecclesiastical as Temporal and by all others then of anie value there which they delivered unto him under their Seals There did hee also receiv the Homage Fealtie Allegiance and subjection of all those pettie usurping Princes and others as his Liege Subjects There did hee hold a great Council or general Assmblie of all the Prime inhabitants of that Island at Lismore which they called a Parlament and gave them the English Laws Vbi Leges Angliae ab omnibus sunt gratanter receptae juratoriâ cautioone praestitâ confirmatae There did hee send his Mandats to the Archbishops Bishops and Clergie of Ireland to assemble in a Synod at Cashel wherein Cbristianus Bishop of Lismore was President in which Synod that King's entrance actions and atchievments there were declared to bee lawful and it was there also concluded that it was most meet that as Ireland by God's appointment had recovered a lawful Lord and King from England so also they should from thence receiv a better from of living they also then established that all Divine Offices of holy Church should from thenceforth bee handled in all parts of Ireland according as the Church of England did observ them In that Synod also they made divers other Canons concerning the Church-Government there which Acts were ratified by the Regal Autoritie of the same Henrie the second To the same purposes another general Synod was soon after held at Armagh in Vlster where the same things and others for right ordering of that Government were resolved and agreed upon There was also placed Hugh Lacie Justice of Ireland for the Government of that Land wherein that Land then seemed to bee formally setled in a peaceable subject condition to England as it ought to bee Thus may the Querist and all others see that that Land and supposed original Nation did not continue manie hundreds or thousands of years nor was enjoied till these times without anie others laying claim to have right to the same It may bee demanded though standing thus how might King Henrie the second seiz all that Land into his own hands and grant it to adventurers as after hee did To this the answer is easie For in a short time after that King and the greatest part of his Army withdrew into England Then did all those pettie Kings Rulers and men of value and the other Inhabitants falsly and traiterously join in a Confederacie and action to extirpate and expuls all the English and Welsh then left there and did cast aside their dutie and obedience to England and the good order and Laws so freely and lately entertained by them breaking all Faith and Allegiance to him to whom they had formerly sworn it they murthered as manie as they could take at advantage and at last besieged Dublin and other Towns intending to destroie all the English But the valor of those men left there and the
Canterburie suing to him in these words viz. Antecessorum vestrorum magisterio c. that is Vnto the Mastership or chief rule of your Ancestors wee willingly submitted our Prelats from which wee remember that our Prelats have received their ecclesiasticall dignities c. All which and other applications of like nature doe cleerly evince the submission of the Irish Clergie to the rule and superintendencie of the Arch-Bishop of Canterburie their then acknowledged Metropolitan And to proceed yet a little further to prove the antient English Title to Ireland In the Statute of the 11. Reginae Elizabethae for granting lands in Vlster to that Queen her heirs and Successors It is declared That the Crown of England had ancient and authentick Titles to the State and possession of the Land of Ireland conveied farr beyond the linage of the Irish Also By a Statute tempore Philippi Mariae for vesting the two large Territories of Leix and Ophalie in the Crowne It is there again declared That the Crown of England had good right thereunto before and that the Irish had entred into those lands by force and wrongfully usurped the possession thereof Which Statutes were enacted by the immediate Ancestors of that supposed Nation now in Rebellion the one made under a Popish Prince the other under a Protestant Other Statutes and Records make like mention of the antient right of England to the Land of Ireland and where there is mention above made of about one hundred yeers quiet possession of the English over all that Island in the time of Henry the second and after it may be demanded how afterwards those despicable Irish so gain'd upon the English as in somtimes they did and how they obtained such large possessions as in later times they had A cleer and obvious Answer to all that well know Ireland may be given That those English Lords Adventurers having jura Regalia and other great priviledges and authorities within their Counties Palatine being eight in number at one time and therein power to pardon make Chancellors Barons and Knights to make Judges Sheriffs and all Officers within themselvs the Kings having few Sheriffs any where except in the Crosses or Tipperarie in Mounster neither was there much Law executed by the Kings immediate Authoritie those Lords received great yeerlie revenues and some of them often advanced to the government of that Land by the King's favour the Colonies under them being rich and spread all over the Land Those Lords being com to the height of prosperitie and not able wisely to manage and applie to their own good those great powers endowments and Graces of their Kings fell into jealousies and emulations one against another whereupon ensued sharp and bloudie contentions they having power to make peace and warr at pleasure without the licens or authority of their chief Governors which power was afterwards taken away by several statutes they entred into sundrie violences one against another and combined Parties against Parties to maintain which they called in to their Assistance their known enemies the Irish then grown up into som numbers and so farr were they transported with their blind envious surie that they put Arms into the hands of the Irish and conducted them to their battails as hired Souldiers they assumed power to lay Taxes Cesses and Impositions upon their English Colonies Tenants and Dependants and by that meanes supported both their English and Irish Soldiers to the oppression of the other English but Lords countenancing and strengthning of the Irish besides training them in Martiall actions These dissentions and animosities began in the reign of King John as is before touched but they rose not to much virulence till towards the end of the reign of King Henrie the third and so continued by fits in the reign of King Edward the first as that King 's greater actions in France Scotland and Wales averted him from the more special care of that Common-wealth they conflicted in this manner many times one against another to the great consumption of their English Tenants who served under them as the Lacies of Meath warred against Courcie of Vlster the foresaid Lacies after against the Bourks of Vlster and Connaght the foresaid Lacies against the Marshals of Leimster who held that Countrie in right of the daughter heir of the bovsaid Richard Earl of Pembroke of Stigil married to Marshal The Garaldines of Mounster Leimster against the Butlers the Garaldines against the Bourks the Bourks against the Verdons of Meath Lowth the Bourks against the Clares the Briminghams against the Verdons and other English in the Pale The Garaldines Butlers and Briminghams against the Bourks and Poers and indeed all the English Progenies by part-taking and private Offences given and taken were imbroiled in the same quarrels the Irish looking on and siding wheresoever they thought best striving by their cunning and malicious insinuations to enlarge and blow everie spark of discord amongst them into flames of hostilitie Hereupon start up that destructive and wicked custom of Coigne and Liverie which was hors-meat mans-meat and money taken by the Soldiers upon the Colonies and English Inhabitants which custom and exaction was afterwards by some Statutes made Felonie and by other Satutes made treason one whereof hath this expression Viz. At the request and supplication of the Commons of this Land of Ireland c. Whereas of long time there hath been used exacted by the Lords and Gentlemen of this Land many and divers damnable customs and usages which have been called Coigne and Liverie that is hors-meat and mans-meat for finding their Hors-men and Foot-men and over that four-pence a day for every of them to be had and paid of the poot earth-tillers and tenants inhabitants of the same Land without anie thing doing or paying for the same besides mante Robberies murthers rapes and other manifold extortions and oppressions by the said horsmen and footmen daily and nightly committed and don which bee the principal causes of the desolation and destruction of the said Land and hath brought the same into ruine and decaie so as most part of the English Freeholders and tenants have been departed thereof som into the realm of England and som into other strange Lands Whereupon the aforesaid Lords and Gentlemen have intruded into the said Freeholders and tenants inheritances and the same kept and occupied as their own and set under them in the same Lands the King's Irish enemies to the diminishing of holy Church-rights the disherison of the King and his obedient Subjects and the utter ruine and desolation of the Land For Reformation whereof bee it enacted c. By this and manie other like Laws it is apparent how the Irish thrust themselvs into great quantities of the English Land and afterwards as in the sequel appeareth made themselvs owners of them Another waie of their entrance was by frauduent force and incursion as when by these broils one Colonie had ruined another the Irish
of war aswel as former And then why may not befal to those Inhabitants of Ireland which challenge the Land to bee given them by God and Nature that which hath betided other Nations by the secret counsels of that God in whose hands the Inhabitants of the earth are tossed as a ball Did not Eneas by conquest of the Latines settle his posteritie in Italie did not the Franks by invasion and conquests take possession of Gallia now their native habitation was not Britain in France surprized by the power of the English Saxons and from them denominated continuing in their possession to this daie Did not the Huns becom Masters of Pannonia now of them called Hungarie And to conclude is not Conquest an universal title throughout the world Is not that Jus gentium quod ubique valet And if this Jus Belli stand for a Plea for them why may not wee then saie as the Civillians fully resoly the lawfulness and proprietie of things gotten by war in this known Maxime Ea quae ab hostibus capiuntur jure gentium statim fiunt capientium I cannot omit som material instances and so conclude the Answer to this Quere whereby the present acting power of a Conqueror is allowed and approved in an usurper by the Lord Jesus Christ who was born under an usurping power to teach us as a judicious Commentator observ's Indicat deinde ipsâ nativitate se non pellere magistratum ordinarium adventu suo imò approbare who besides his universal title to all the world had an indubitable title and claim to the temporal Kingdom of the Jews then under the Romane usurping power Witness that antient Manuscript Michael Nauclerus de Monarchia divina ex libro vaticano yet did so far submit unto the title of Conquest and his intrusion that hee the lawful heir was contented to becom a Subject in his own Land Eodem tempore quo mu●ti Tyranni occupabant though all power was his and hee that little stone foretold that hee should bee cut out of the Mountain c. yet hee neither smite's them with tongue Dan. 2.45 nor opposeth them by practice but practically useth and teacheth obedience by paying tribute yea becom's an Advocate for Cesar's interest Give unto Cesar that which is Cesar's and in a word was so far from exclaiming against that Romane though usurping autoritie that hee looking up to Heaven affirm's the invader's powers to bee of God and therefore afterwards submit's to an unjust Sentence of death whose steps the holie Apostle following and filled with the Spirit of the same Christ the onely blessed potentate doth in express terms without exclusion Rom. 13. v. 2 3 4 5 6 7. enjoin submission to all sorts of powers c. Hee saie's not they have no title they came in by Conquest they are thievs Robbers but honor's them with the title of lawful Magistrates and command's the conquered Subject upon pain of damnation to afford obedience unto them as the Ministers of God using these words that all powers that bee are of God And for the later part of this Quere viz Whether it bee not altogether as unjust to take our neighbor's Lands and Liberties from them as our neighbor's goods from our own Nation I● is answered that although the Irish have verie long usurped the possession of the Lands and Liberties of the English in Ireland beeing the Lands and Liberties in the neighboring Countrie which the Querist meaneth and which of right and from antiquitie and so until this daie do truly and justly belong to the Engliish as in the first Quere is resolved Yet neither when this present Rebellion brake out in Ireland nor of a number of yeers before were anie Lands or Liberties unjustly taken held or deteined from anie the Rebels of Ireland And hee can pretend to nothing but dull ignorance that know's it not to have been still consistent with the Laws and Customs aswel of England as of other civil Nations of the world to seiz and take the goods and liberties of such neighbors of their own Nation as would not stoop to obedience but Rebel against the known Laws of anie Land where they lived especially wilful Law-breakers such as should first begin and attempt depredations and surprising of the goods and estates of the obedient parties the like Laws beeing for such contemners and Rebels also in such cases to lose their lives The seventh Quere WHether God at the last daie will not call men to an account even for those things which they are unaccountable for here as great Conquerors are The seventh Answer GOd at the last daie will justifie all men that zealously execute the work of his own righteous justice and that are instrumental in the propagation of his truth and glorie as the English now are and as I am confident they will persist in Ireland their own Countrie against and upon the wicked Inhabitants thereof the Irish Rebels who for their abominations as I may boldly saie stink in the nostrils of the Lord and of all his servants and must at last without doubt bee brought to an account for all their ungrateful inhumane bloodie and barbarous actions wherein the hand of the Lord is most visible unto us having alreadie brought manie to the sword destroied som by famine but far more by pestilence and other waies of his Justice and now those whose persons as yet met not with those Judgments and proudly triumphed over and stood upon the necks of the deplorable This at large appear's by the examinations taken at Dublin upon oath and infinitely distressed English do like dust before the winde flie from the faces of our English Protestant souldiers not daring to justifie the least of their acts or undertakings but for refuge flie to Mountains woods bogs and other obscure and unaccessible places cursing now the first plotters contrivers and beginners of their Rebellion and hellish designs And doth not the Querist think that manie of these bloud-suckers in this world and the rest in the world to com shall meet with condign punishment suitable to their demerits The eighth Quere WHether the condition of the conquered bee not Ireland and the condition of the Conquerors bee not England and Ireland unjustly tearmed Rebels and their caus just and England a thieving usurping Tyrannie and their caus altogether unjust beeing against God and Nature and therein such as no judicious conscientious man can assist or bid God speed The eighth Answer THe condition of the conquered is not Ireland beeing as aforesaid not a distinct nation and people but the greatest part of them consisting of English or those from thence extracted And the several Conquests of them but reducements to legal and civil obedience to the just and proper right and interest of England Nor can the condition of the Conquerors of them bee as over an absolute Nation therefore the Inhabitants of Ireland now in arms against the just rights and proprietie of England are properly
and palpably Rebels and their caus unjust and England's a legal power right and Government and their caus altogether just beeing for God and Nature For God to punish the rebellious wicked and obstinate to root out Idolatrie to plant and dress the Lord's Vineyard by holding out the glorious light of the truth and not suffer it to bee covered or trampled on For Nature such as all judicious conscientious men will assist and bid God speed unto beeing to redeem their brethren the dispoiled Protestants in Ireland restore them to their just and lawful possessions vindicate the robberies murthers tortures rapes and inhumane cruelties barbarously executed on them and reduce that Countrie to Peace and quietness The ninth Quere WHether it bee not the dutie of everie honest man by all fair and peaceable means to endeavor the diverting of the States from the prosecution of so unjust a caus especially decline all means where himself might promote the same but to shew his utter dislike of it The ninth Answer IT is the dutie of everie honest man by all earnest zealous and lawful means to endeavor the encouragement and furtherance of the State of England for their prosecution of their so just a caus especially to undertake all means and to run through all difficulties whereby hee himself might promote the same and shew his willingness unto and good liking of it and hee neither is nor can bee a good Christian that will not contribute to the suppression of these Idolaters murtherers and apparent enemies of God The tenth Quere VVHether those that conted for their freedom as the English now shall not make themselvs altogether unexcusable if they shall intrench upon other's freedoms And whether it bee not an especial note and characterizing badg of a true pattern of freedom to indeavor the just freedom of all men as well as his own The tenth Answer THose that contend for their freedom as the ●aglish now who are backt and seconded by original just Principles fundamental Laws inherent Rights legal and due grants and acknowledgment of their rights from their former accepted Governors make 's the resolution flatly opposite unto and inconsistent with the rebellious Inhabitants of Ireland who have neither original Principles fundamental Laws inherent Rights legal and due grants and acknowledgments of their rights from their former rightful Governors in anie sort or manner distinct and separate from the right power and Government of England over them But as a member to the bodie so is Ireland to England And therefore England need 's no excuse but is everie waie justifiable to rectifie or cut off a corrupt rebellious and gangren'd member who never had imposed on it or reteined anie other defect restriction or freedom then the whole bodie suffered And if the indeavors of England have been so candid as to make Ireland a fellow-member of its own freedom and enjoyment of Laws and Libertie equal with it self in such of the Inhabitants as are capable and deserving the same it is a special note and characterizing badg of a true Pattern of freedom to bring such as belong to them into the like condition of themselvs and to suppress those in Ireland aswel as those in England that oppose the same The Eleventh Quere VVHether in Judgment and Conscience the Irish are not to bee justified in all that they have don against the English in Ireland and in complying with assisting and seeking assistance from anie that would or will bee England's enemies to preserv and deliver them from the crueltie and usurpation of the English rather then to becom slaves to their wills And whether the English would not do as the Irish do were they in like condition The eleventh Answer IF Traitors murtherers ravishers robbers cruel inhumane persecutors of true Christians sacrilegious abominable Idolaters are justifiable then are the Inhabitants of Ireland now in arms against the English to bee justified But if by the Law of God and man such of their partakers Abettors and countenancers are to bee prosecuted and punished by those into whose hands God hath put the sword of legal power and just Government as now in the English Then in Judgment and conscience the said Inhabitants of Ireland deserv sharp prosecution and just condemnation and the rather for that they to uphold themselvs in their mischief have against their dutie and Ioialtie to the lawful Government and right of England assisted and sought assistance from such as are and alwaies have been England's professed enemies and therefore for the English to endeavor the acquifition of their own just rights and to punish those rebellious obstinate and inhumane inhabitants of Ireland is but their dutie and so conscience not crueltie equitie and just right not usurpation They deserving the greatest severitie for their falshood and treacherie who so exorbitantly abused the greatest freedom that ever anie Nation enjoied and were not made slaves to the will of the English Protestants but for manie years past had as much freedom and far more then their evil manners rendered them capable of The twelfth Quere VVHether the English would account anie thing crueltie enough for them to exercise upon the Irish if the Irish should dispossess them in England and tyrannize over them here as the English have don over them there if afterwards the English should get the upper hand The twelfth Answer THe English never dispossed nor tyrannized over the Irish either in Ireland or England but contrariwise were ever indulgent and loving to them and now as the English will account nothing severe enough if warrantable by God's Law for them to execute upon the rebellious Irish if they should dispossess the English in England and tyrannize over them here as they the Irish have most unlawfully don over English Protestants in Ireland So it is warrantable by God's Law to recover their right in Ireland and by the same Law if they get the upper hand severely to prosecute and punish the blood-guiltie Inhabitants of Ireland it beeing a dutie and trust imposed on them by God against such Idolaters and murtherers and none ought without great offence but prosecute such a cause with effect The thirteenth Quere WHether it bee not the dutie of the English Nation rather to repent of the oppression usurpation and intrusion of themselvs their Kings and forefathers then with a high hand to pursue those designs of violence The thirteenth Answer IT is the part and dutie of the English Nation rather to prosecute and force the rebellious member Ireland to repent their oppression usurpation and intrusion into the right and Government of the English and for their violent depriving them and their harmless neighbors of their Liberties lives goods Lands and other Estates and for the English to recover their own rights in all ages made good by the expence of their fore-father's blood and treasure and with a high hand to pursue the designs of the opposers and where the English never oppressed usurped or
rebellion wherein not a Family in England but is interessed and which they exspect not to bee rendered fruitless to the dishonor of the whole Nation Set all these aside yet humane reason and policie dictate's that the Hous cannot bee safe so long as the back door is open The father wrong's his posteritie if hee lavishly give away halfe his inheritance the regaining whereof hereafter may bee a cause of ten fold loss of blood and treasure to what it may cost in preservation that it is neither safe or just in the Law of Nature to fling away anie part of our Arms or defence though at present cumbersom which may advantage the enemie by taking possession of and using as the popish partie will against us And saie the right and interest of England to Ireland were not so great cleer and undeniable as it is yet the late revolutions considered England must never exspect to bee advantaged or anie waie bettered by deserting Ireland and giving it up to the Rebellious Inhabitants A people so foully and lately treacherous to the Protestants and later English Which people are neither so formidable in their best arms defences and power to keep themselvs in such a proclaimed condition or freedom Nor is it the aim or mark of their new Grandees to effect and maintein it whose divisions and contrarie inclinations amongst themselvs are and will ever bee a readie and open gap for anie England's enemies to enter in at And saie they have no realitie in them to a kingly claim as without doubt they have not they having now of late made amongst them so manie new Kings yet it were an Act of destructive and dangerous consequence to give Ireland to the disposal of the Pope and hee to the Spaniard his dear childe which the Inhabitants of Ireland are not much against but contrariwise manie of them desire it and which undoubtedly if not prevented would happen And so that bit bee brought into the mouth of the Spaniard which hee hath so long gaped after to swallow and devour And admit that Ireland were of the Protestant Religion as well as England and thereby the above inconveniencies avoided yet were it neither safe nor commendable to quit the dependance of that Island on England by proclaiming the Inhabitants thereof a free State since what such a State might do upon verie slender grounds and mistakes let Scotland witness The resolution therefore is that to do as this Quere propound's is extreme loss hazard and disadvantage to the people of England and the reducement of that Countrie to its lawful dependance and Government of England by a full conquest of the present Rebels let the charge bee what it will is more honorable safe profitable and advantagious to England then to proclaim them a free State who are not in a capacitie to make and keep themselvs so nor are or ever were a distinct Nation as is before said and here take notice how the Querist propound's a suitable reward indeed for the State of England to bestow upon the Re●●●●● of Ireland for murdering their kindred and allies acknowledging the said Rebels a free State and in amitie with them and thereby for ever to quit their own undoubted interest establish the worst of their enemies becom guiltie of the unparalel'd murthers of those that were flesh of their flesh and bone of their bone and leav the remnant of the poor English there continually open to the rapine of those whose mercies are cruelties So as the Querist would work the State of England into an impious unprovident and unnatural desertion of the caus of God their own interest and National quarrel The seventeenth Quere VVhether Ireland were not altogether as like to accept of protection safetie and defen●e from the State and people of England as from Spain or any other Nation especially would they not rather then from Prince Charles Rupert or from such like forlorn Soldiers how would they then style the malignant Partie inconsiderable And whether they were not then likelie suddenly to recall their Sea-Pirats and so suddenly set open all Trade by Sea The seventeenth Answer BEcaus the Rebellious Inhabitants of Ireland have cast off their obedience to the government of England and as is too well known have plotted and as farr as they could indeavored the utter ex●tirpation of the English Protestants have in coolness of bloud and without any provocation given them maliciously and most barbarously murthered som hundreds of thousands of them driven the rest from their habitations robbed them of their Estates wounded maimed and most miserably intreated great numbers of others have burned their houses Casiles and Churches and have elected and made to and amongst themselvs several new Kings viz. the Pope the King of Spaine Owen M c Art O Neil Sr Phelim O Neil The Lord Maguire since deceased O Conner Dun of Sligoh Philip M c Hugh M c Sane O Rely Dermot M c Doolin Cavenagh and one O Shergil as doth and will fully appear in the examinations taken in that behalf and becaus also those rebellious Irish have declined all English government returned to their barbarous manners and customs have set up a new government have vowed and many of them taken the Sacrament to destroy not only all the men women and children of the English Protestants but also all irrational Creatures of the English breed and becaus also they have in a most high manner as farr as they could prophaned the Churches books and daies of God's true worship have brought to death as many Professors of his truth as they could possiblie surprise and have dilated their power and strength in the acting and perpetrating of any crime destructive to the English Protestants and which might render themselvs uncapable of mercie protection or safetie from the people of England therefore none ought to be given them nor ought the sword now justly and upon necessitie drawn out against them be returned to the Scabbard before that destruction they denounced and resolved to execute upon the English be retaliated upon themselvs least such mercie be recompenced with a curs as the holie Ghost by the Prophet in a case such semblance pronounced Jer. 28.10 Cursed bee bee that doth the work of the Lord negligently and cursed bee hee that keepeth back his Sword from bloud But I wonder from what the Querist mean's they should be protected saved or defended if hee intend it to bee from that punishment they have so justly merited by their Rebellion and wickedness past according to that protection and those Concessions they lately had by Compact with Ormond grounded upon a Commission from the late King Charle To that I answer That if the indulgent English should grant it to them no doubt they would accept and make use of it so long as they should finde it to promote and be consistent with their own ends and surely they would to themselvs take up no little glorie to meet with such a color of justification as they might thereby transferr their odious guilt upon the Protectors so much elevate the policie and wit of the old Serpent their dread Lord and Master above the English Protestant genius and bee thereby also the further enabled to destroy the remaining Partie of the Protestants in Ireland too precious wee hope to bee the price of their securitie But for further resolution These rebellious Inhabitants of Ireland are so contemptuous to the English laws so opposite in profession to the English Protestant so hardned in their wickedness envie and hatred against God's truth and them for the truth's sake and so wil ully bent to persist as till suppressed they will not omit but contrariwise with greediness draw into their confederacie countenance and assistance any whether forreign Prince or other person and never think themselvs in good condition or safetie until if possible they have sounded the dreinings of the English veins to their abyss through their deepest lakes of bloud and have brought the undestroied part of the English to the lowest ebb of tranquilitie which they will endeavour to effect and hasten on as well by Sea as Land and have in most esteem all malignant Parties lending a hand and enabling them to effect it But the Lord prevent them Something may bee said concerning Edmond Gawre who delivered the formerly recited and answered cavilling Queres to Mr Theodore Jennings who delivered them over to the Lord President of the Council of State as that it is verie like lie he is an Irishman and one whom by credible information doth or lately did covertly cnnningly shelter among the soldierie in or about Londor and is a Jesuitical Papist for the verie Queres themselvs smel of the breath of a Jesuit the truth whereof may do well if found out by inquisition after his present being parentage and education which is left to the discretion of those eminent persons in anthoritie the Impostor●s then present drift being to retard and hinder if possible forces and succors from our Partie in Ireland at that time when the Land was in greatest danger to bee ●ent and taken from us FINIS