the business then Coleman falls to arguing again with your new Correspondent Father Lachaise who succeeded Ferryer in the Office of a Confessor to the French King your Ally with whom he so prevail'd that the French King was wholly of Coleman's Opinion and your own and testified it in a Letter to your self which â—ore date June the second and I suppose you was so much a Gentleman as to answer his Letter you being a most humble Admirer of the said French King that you would not only write to him but also to his Father Confessor in these words as follows Your Letter to Monsieur Lachaise the French King's Confessor THE Second of June last past his most Christian Majesty offer'd me most generously his Friendship and the use of his Purse to the Assistance against the Designs of my Enemies and his and protested unto me that his Interest and mine were so clearly link'd together that those that opposed the one should be look'd upon as Enemies to the other and told me moreover his Opinion of my Lord Arlington and the Parliament which is That he is of Opinion that neither the one nor the other is in his Interest or mine and thereupon he desir'd me to make such Propositions as I should think fit In this conjuncture all was transacted by the means of Father Ferryer who made use of Sir William Throgmorton who is an honest man and of Truth who was then at Paris and hath held Correspondence with Coleman one of my Family in whom I have great Confidence I was much satisfied to see his most Christian Majesty altogether of my Opinion so I made him answer by the 29th of June by the same means he made use of to write to me that is by Coleman who address'd himself to Father Ferryer by the foremention'd Knight and entirely agreed to his most Christian Majesty and that it was necessary to make use of our joint and utmost Credits to prevent the Success of those evil Designs resolv'd on by the Lord Arlington and the Parliament against his most Christian Majesty and my self which of my side I promise really to perform of which since that time I have given reasonable good Proof Moreover I made some Proposals which I thought necessary to bring to pass what we are obliged to undertake assuring him that nothing could so firmly establish our Interest with the King my Brother as that very same Offer of the help of his Purse by which means I had much reason to hope I should be enabled to the dissolving of the Parliament and to make void the Designs of my Lord Arlington who works incessantly to advance the Interest of the Prince of Orange and the Hollanders and to lessen that of the King your Master notwithstanding the Protestations he hath made to this hour to render him Service but as to that which was proposed 't was at a stand by reason of the Sickness of Father Ferryer so our Affairs succeeded not according to our Designsâ— only Father Ferryer wrote to me the 15th of the last Month That he had communicated those Propositions to his most Christian Majesty and that they had been very well liked of but as they contain'd things that had regard to the Catholick Religion and to the Offer and Vse of his Purse he gave me to understand he did not desire I should treat with Monsieur Revigny upon the first but as to the last and had the same time acquainted me that Monsieur Revigny had Order to grant me whatsoever the conjuncture of our Affairs did require and have expected the effects of it to this very hour but nothing being done in it and seeing on the other hand that my Lord Arlington and several others endeavour'd by a thousand Deceits to break the good Intelligence which is between the King my Brother his most Christian Majesty and my self to the end they might deceive us all three I have thought fit to advertise you of all that is past and desire of you your Assistance and Friendship to prevent the Rogueries of those who have no other design than to betray the Concerâ—s of France and England also and who by their pretended Service are the occasion they succeed not As to any more I refer you to Sir William Throgmorton and Coleman whom I have commanded to give you an account of the whole state of our Affair and the true condition of England with many others and principally my Lord Arlington's Endeavours to represent to you quite otherwise than it is The two first I mention'd to you are firm to my Interest so that you may treat with them without any apprehension This Letter your Cattle would have to be counterfeited by Coleman but your Brother saw the Copy of the French King's Letter and might have seen the Original if he had been as honest as I was earnest to have your Papers seiz'd as well as Coleman's But that Letter was full of very gracious Expressions to you and in it he blamed your Friends for not having done the Great Work which that King said would embarrass all your Affairs and what that was a Man might easily guess for the Reason he gave was an explication of it that there was not the least Trust to be put in him No sooner had King CHARLES read this Letter but he was very much startled Now the destruction of the Prince of Orange was pointed at in plain words at length and it 's well known that the French King then would not agree to the Summ of Three hundred Thousand pounds for your Brother's Use but for your own and the Pension of Three hundred Thousand pounds per Annum was setled upon you Now this Summ and this Pension was not the Pension that your Brother aimed at for this was fixed three Years before that was sought And Coleman had his Twenty thousaâ—d pounds which he truly made use of for the Ends for which it was given him and that you well knew and blamed Coleman for his parting with such a sum of Money in so little a compass of time as eighteen Months but when he had given you to give him his due a true account you â—old him That he had been a faithful Servant and that he should never want such a summ of Money to serve the Cause And it 's well known that none lived at a more noble rate than Coleman considering his Quality and well he might he having so good a Pension from France and not an inconsiderable one from Rome The next thing I present you withall to bite upon was his Declaration Prepared for the dissolving the long Parliament of which I suppose you know no more then you did of the long Letter or of that you Wrote to Lachaise and how that devilish band of Pensioners are Treated the world may see if they will be but as diligent in Observing as you was Vigilant in Carrying on your Cursed Designs against our Laws Liberties and Religion they will find that
your Nose and say nothing and let them Play the Game as they lifted and when they were strengthened by your Interest and the French Kings Power they could send you Trudging into the Kingdom of Darkness as you did your Brother But to come home to your Jesuits Sir let me put you in mind that upon the fifth of April we had notice from Thomas VVhite and the Fathers in London that a General Consult was to be held on April the 24th and the Fathers of Leige and Ghent and VVatton and St. Omers were ordered to attend the said Consult and the Summons was to this effect Thus all that had Jus Suffragij was to be there and that they were not to hasten to London long before the time appointed nor to appear much about the Town till the meeting was over least occasion should be given to suspect the Design and Secrecy as to the time and place was much Recommended to all those that were Summoned as it would appear of its own Nature necessary this was the Summons and to this Summons we all obeyed and to London we came and there met about 50 or 60 of the Society from all parts of the Kingdome who before the Consult was disolved did resolve upon the Death of the King either by Shooting Poysoning or Stabbing Conyers the Benedictin was pitcht upon and four Irish Russians to Stab him and Pickering and Grove were pitcht upon to shoot him and Sir George VVakeman to Poyson him thus your Brothers death was resolved upon and what they could not effect in 1678 they did in 1684 and to this of 78 your Servant Coleman was not only Privy too but was aiding and advising and consenting and how could you be Ignorant of it then For what you did in 1684 you had long designed of which Sir no doubt in the least can be made and therefore it s in vain for you or any of your Villains to dispute it can you deny that you sought the Destruction of the Prince of Orange whilst he was in that Station only because he had Married your Daughter can you or your Brother of France deny that the Papists were to have your Aid and Power to subdue the Northern Heresy Can you deny that Coleman laboured for a Peace that the French King might be at leasure to assist you here in England And that you might not have one to hand a Party against you was not the Duke of Monmouth kept under the Hatches by you and your Party And was not the Parliament to be disolved And by the Dissolution of the Parliament a Peace could be procured upon more Advantageous Terms to the French and in order to your regaining your Power and Interest which was hurt by quitting the Office of Lord High Admiral it was contrived that you should be restored and that the King your Brother should put the Fleet into your Hands as the only Person that could give a good account of it and farthermore that for all the Places of importance of the Kingdom put into his Hands till the Popish Religion and Arbitrary Power was fixed and you at the Hand of it in which Post you were to be but a Royal Tool to serve their base Ends and Purposes and if you did not comply they knew how to dispose of you even in no worse way than they designed upon your Brother which I say through Gods Mercy to England and your Clemency they did effect and then Popery had but two Legs whereas in his time she had four such as they were Objection That it was objected against me that I was not in Town in the Months of April and May this was one main Objection against my Discovery and to this end the Jesuits produced a Number of rascally Boys from St. Omers to prove my being there those Two Months nay some of them Swore from December till June And to answer this Objection I brought in Seven or Eight Witnesses to prove my being in Town which gave the Court great Satisfaction 1. The first Witness I called was Mr. Walter sometimes Vicar of Rainham in Kent who did declare that he had known me several Years and had met me in Newgate Market and in the Month of April he saw me in a Disguise in a grey Serge Coat and a grey Hat at the first Sight this Minister did not know me to be the Man but upon due recollection he found me to be the Man that he had seen and to confirm his Judgment in it he went to a Gentlewoman whose Name also he did not know he went to her because he had seen me at her House to enquire of her what was become of me and how I did and the Gentlewoman not knowing the End of my going beyond the Seas answered him thus Oh says she he is an undone Man he is turned to the Church of Rome and Absconds and hides himself I know not where Can all this be true Then Mr. Walter told her That he had seen me later than she had done for he had seen me the Day before at the upper end of St. Martin's Lane near Leicester House 2. Sarah Ives was another Witness in the Case to confirm what Mr. Walter had said this was the Woman of whom he enquired concerning me who owned she had not seen me but my Friends had told her that they judged me about the Town Incognito and she proved that Walter had the aforesaid Discourse with her concerning me and that he had told her that he had seen me the Day before and she tells you a particular Token That my Father came then unto her House to see her and she did ask my Father to eat some thin Cheese that was newly come in and the first she had come in and she enquired of my Father when he did see me my Father told her That he had not seen me of late then said she I can tell you News of your Son here was one Mr. VValter in my Shop that says he met him in Leicester Fields but in a Disguise and that he had told her what Habit I was in 3. A third Witness that proved me in Town at that time was one Butler that was Coach man to Sir Richard Barker who said That he was about his Coach which stood in the Gate-way and that I came in and asked him whether Dr. Tonge was within and he answered No At the first Sight he did not know me by reason of the Disguise that I was in but had known me well before because that I wore a Minister's Habit as I did then at the Tryal of the Jesuits but upon calling to mind who I was he did bid me welcome into England again but he said I took no notice of him but went on forward into the House But I made but little stay in the House because a young Fellow had affronted me for the sake of the Habit I was then in and this he swore was in the Month of May
and let him read over the Canoâ—s and Decrees of your Church and Councils see the Decree of Pope Vrban We do not esteem them Murtherers saith that godly Prelate who shall happen to kill a person that is excommunicate out of Ardour and Zeal to thâ—â—r Mother the Catholick Church 2dly Gâ—ve me leave to observe to you what impudent Lyars your trusâ—y and well-beloved Councellors and Conspirators the â—ive Jesuites were that blest the Gallows in the Year 1679 and danced a singular Courant when they came to Tyburn They said that there was but one Jesuite that ever maintain'd that Doctrine and that was Mariana Truly Sir you knew that was an impudent Lye with which they jump'd out of the World and the People that saw them take their last Leaves of old England believ'd them much alike in other parts of their last words for they that would dye with so great a Lye as that would not make bones of twenty more rather than fail for Aâ—dâ—rton the Rector of the College of Rome and Campton the Minister of the College and Green the Procurator and Souâ—hwell that was Assistant to Father Oliva the then General Father Buckley good man that was like to have been hang'd for Buggery in Spain not because of the Sin but because it was made publick these you will say were Preachers only but none ever wrote for it but Mariana Was not Tolet a Jesuite And I pray see what he saith he was an honest man I assure you these are his sweet words That Subjects are not bound to maintain invâ—â—aâ—e their Oath of Allegiance to an excommuâ—icate Prince Was not Bellarmin a Jesuite and doth not he affirm that the Pope hath the same Right and Power over Kings as Jâ—â—â—jâ—dâ— had over Athaliah Was not Greâ—â—lentâ—a a Jesuite and doth not he in his Writings affirm That the Pope may deprive Heretical Kings of all dominion and superiority over their Subjects Was not Creswell a Jesuite and doth not he affirm that if a Prince be not of the Romish Religion he loseth all right and title to govern and that his Subjects are discharg'd from all Obligation of Obedience and that he may be proceeded against as an â—nemy of Mankind Was not Francisâ—â—s Varona Constantinâ—s a Jesuite doth not he in his Apology for John Chastele who wounded Henry the fourth of France your Grandfather tell us That it is lawful for a private man to destroy Kings and Princes condemn'd of Heresie Is not this point so evident that de Haâ—lâ—y the first President of the Parliament of Paris who both knew the Doctrine of the Jesuites and had seen the woful Effects of it in the murder of two Kings of France publickly avow'd it to be their common Doctrine in all their Writings That the Pope hath a Right to excommunicate Kings and thereupon their Subjects may with Innocence assault and destroy them What a sort of a weak Memory you may have I know not but of this I am sure that our English Nation which thro' God's Blessing you may â—ever see more unless it be to a very glorious purpose have not with your five hang'd Jesuites learnt the knack of Forgetfulness so as not to remember that Cardinal Aâ—en wrote a Book to prove that Princes excommunicate for Heresie not only might but were to be deprived of their Kingdom and Life And was not William Parry thereby provoked to kill Queen Elizabeth which tho' before at Rome he had resolved to do yet he was hesitating in his Mind about it till encourag'd by that Book Do you think that England hath forgotten that Father Gifford instigated one John Savage to kill the same Queen upon the Bull of Pius quintusâ—â— And to conclude this second Observation it was remarkable at the same time that they might be the less suspected and that Queen the more secure they wrote a Book wherein they admonish'd the Papists in England not to attempt any thing against their Princess but to fight against their Adversaries only with Christian Weapons viz. Tears Spiritual Reasonings Prayers Watchings and Fastings 3dly Give me leave to recommend a third thing to your consideration and that is Tho' this be a common Doctrin in the Church of Rome yet in the years 1672 73 74 75 76 77 78. it was more earnestly pressed than at any time before and indeâ—d they had then great occasion to put that Doctrin in practise And since it was with speed to be transacted it was not sit their Votaries should go about the Work uninstructed Thus when the Murther of your Grandfather Henry the Fourth of France was determin'd Father Generâ—t a Jesuite instructed John Chastele in this damnable Doctrin of your Hell-born Church and Father Fayre did the same by Francis Veron to dispose his godly Soul for the same work yea when they were ready to perpetrate the same Villany upon that great Prince the very Sermons of the Jesuites were all framed to instigate Men to such an impious Attempt so that Ravilliac when examin'd about the causes why he stab'd the King answer'd That he might understand them by the Sermons of the Preachers I pray call to mind how that twelve Missioners in the year 1677 were sent into Spain and were by the Jesuites oblig'd to reâ—ounce their Allegiance to the King your Brother and were taught by Daniel Armstrâ—ng that the said Oath was heretical antichristian and devilish and they having resolv'd upon your Brother's death with you the said Armstrong did on the 29th of September 1677 in his Sermon to the said Missioners declare That Charles the second King of England was no lawful King but came of a spurious race that his Father was a black Scotchman who by Trade was a Taylor and not Charles the first and that he was a Bastard And you may remember that George Coniers the Jesuite was order'd to preach upon the day dedicated to Thomas Beckâ—t to preach against the Oaths of Allegiance and Supremacy and that he should exhort the Fathers to stand by the new Provincial in the Great Work that you and the Society had in hand And your old Friend Blundâ—l had his places where he against the good time taught several young Men treasonable and mutinous Doctrines against the Interest and Person of the King your Brother John Keins on the 13th of August 1678 preach'd a Sermon to twelve Men in poor habits yet Men of Quality by the whiteness of their Hands in which Sermon he deliver'd this villanous Doctrine That Protestant and other Heretical Princes were ipso facto deposed because such and that it was as lawful to destroy them as an Oliver Cromwel or any other Usurper At which Sermon Sir I was present not designedly but by chance 4thly I must observe that a Man that is not thorow paced in all the points of these Villains is in danger of being expos'd to the Vengeance of their Cruelty for I find that tho' they knew you in all points to be a Roman Catholick
that related to yourself and that was put in by trusty Ned your own Secretary after that you had perused the Memorial with whom you had been very rash with him about an affront he had put upon Sir Allen Apsly in relation to Religion of which he had complained to you for Coleman was as Impudent on the one hand as you were short in your Judgment on the other which many times did much prejudice your Design and truely it was his impudence and your Folly that helped to deliver the Nation 2. That this Lord Arundel of Wardour did give Money to pervert several of the Subjects of England under the notion of Charity which was distributed by Fenwick and Ireland for the use of Poor Converts and no other need I did see the Mony distributed to several Persons perverted as the Lord Arundel's mony in the Month of December 1677 and in the Month of June 1678 in Drury-lane at Fennicks Chamber that Money in June 1678 was 160 l. that was given to about 80 People that Fenwick had Perverted to the Church of Rome 3. That the Lord Arundel of Wardour was privy to the Consult held in April and May in which the Death of the King your Brother was determined for in the beginning of May this Fenwick gave that noble Lord a full account of the unanimous Resolution of the Fathers of the Society in that Point and it was at the same time this noble Lord signed a Bill of 250 l. for the use of the Societies in carrying on their Design 4. This Lord Arundel as mighty as you appear to be had the chief managing of the Affairs of the Popish Party and the Negotiations between you and the French King both as to War and Peace and between the Pope and you in reference to Religion was manag'd by him and you could never have Obtained the Kingdom till that in the Month of June 1678 you had engaged to the French King and the General of the Jesuits who acted with you on the behalf of the Bishop of Rome to take the Kingdom upon the termes the Pope and the French King would allow of and then you fully complied and Arundel was made choice of and was to have been your chief Minister of State and your trusty and well beloved Cuckold and Councellour was to have had a Cardinals Hat with which Sir I suppose you will at this time be content and be glad if you can come of so fairly 5. The Lord Arundel of VVardour did take a Commission from the General of the Jesuits to be high Chancellor of England which was delivered to him by one of Langhorn's Son and to my Knowledge he owned the Receipt of the said Commission in Colemans presence and also by a letter to Fenwick who shewed me the Letter by which the World may see what a Dogs-turd of a King you were like to be for you durst not for your Ears have granted that Commission therefore to Skreen you from the imputation of a Traitour and the French King of an Invader you and he agreed to put it upon the General of the Society who with some difficulty undertook the Province and was on the Popes behalf to choose your Officers both Civil and Military and the Dignities of the Church had not the Design been Discovered which made all of you that did not suffer the Justice of the Nation to alter your Measures 6. That your Servant Coleman having held a long Correspondency with the See of Rome and finding that the Pence he Received did not answer his expectation he began to flag and complain of the same to the Lord Arundel of Wardour but the Lord Arundel was resolved that Coleman should not be discharged and therefore the Lord Arundel writ to the Fathers of the Society and complained of the slowness of the Court of Rome of remitting Mony to England and in the Letter to the Fathers of St. Omers was one inclosed to Cardinal Howard of which there was answer that the Cardinal did not question but that he should obtain a good Pension from the Pope for Coleman and after some time did obtain the said Pension for honest Ned and then he went on briskly and you know that at that very time your Pacquet went a Copy of which Coleman Communicated to the Fathers in London which I had the opportunity of seeing and it did farther appear to me by the constant Correspondence that they held with the Jesuits at St. Omers in the Year 1675 76 77 1678. that he had been a great support to Coleman in those his Correspondences with the General of the Jesuits and Lachaise 7. This Lord Arundel of VVardour by your especial Direction did acquaint the Fathers at St. Omers in what awe you kept the Justices of Wiltshire insomuch they durst not appear to put the Laws in Execution against the Roman-Catholicks and told some that they were more forward than they had thanks for their Paines and that they must expect that if they were more mild they would find that which was Sauce for a Goose was Sauce for a Gander and in that Letter expressed much Joy that there was every day a fine increase of the number of Roman Catholicks especially in VVales Herefordshire and Staffordshire 8. This Lord Arundel of VVardour told Mr. Fenwick at his Chamber in my hearing that he did not question but to have Berwick upon Tweed put into the Hands of the Scotch Roman Catholicks and that it would be a good refuge for the Scotch Party which Scotch Party you know a parcel of Scotch Highlanders Cut-Throats that were to molest all the North Parts of England and the Fife in Scotland and that the Castle of Edenburgh was to be put into the Hands of the then Marquiss of Huntly so that you were sure of doing your business in the North without much Opposition you by your Tool Lauderdale having brought that Kingdom intosuch Slavery that the Poor Protestants had but little hopes of Recovering their Liberties and I do believe they would have chosen rather to have fallen into the Hands of the Popish party than to have continued under that Slavery they groaned under by the Tyrany of Lauderdale and his Villanous Scotch Prelates but how they could have mended their Condition by falling into their Hands I am yet I confess to learne 9. That the Lord Belasys the Lord Arundel of VVardour the Lord Powis the Lord Stafford and the Lord Baltimore met and held a Committee at VVild-House and this Lord Arundel was in the Chair and Mivo the Jesuit sat Secretary to them at that time and a letter was drawn up to Coleman to Communicate to you and the Import of the said Letter was this that whereas Peter Talbot the Arch-Bishop of Dublin had informed them that the Duke of Ormond then Lord Lieutenant of Ireland would endeavour to raise the Revenue of Ireland to be two Hundred thousand Pounds Per annum for ever over and above all the
his Cypher and with all acquainted them that Father Lachaise had acquainted him that notwithstanding his Receipt 20000 l. of which he had given no manner of accompt he was still urgent for Money which did cause a suspicion in the French King that Coleman sought rather his own then the French Kings Interest and that Lachaise had written to him that the French King would not be wanting to supply the Nobility of England that were engaged to advance his Interest and design here in England and at the time of the Concell the Lord Powis did Chide Coleman for his being so open in his Correspondence least he Smarted for it without hopes of Reliefe and told him it was a peice of Vâ—â— Glory in him and that he would prejudice himself and Friends of which â—â—iding Coleman told Whitebread and Whitebread in my hearing did tell Mr. Coleman that it was good to be prudent in affaires of such moment as those were 6. In Letters of August 1678 to the Fathers at St. Omers he wrote that he Longed till the Blow was Given I suppose Sir I shall not need to Explain those Expressions to you though your Cattel then did Vindicate your Innocency that when the Worke was done their Mouthes were Stopt and some did observe that after you Usurped the Crown you never could hold up your Head but like Cain carried about you such a guilt of his Blood in your Countenance as made several stand amazed but whether I may make a wrong Judgment or they â—hat did observe you nothing can be more plaine then that your Brother came to an Untimely end and who was called to an account for his or Shorts Murder who to his dying Day did say that he was Poysoned so as Powis longed for the Blow I do not question but that you longed to and if you did you had your longing Gratified And so much for Powis LORD PETRE I could have put you in mind of several other passages relateing to the Lord Powis but they were not very materiall and so I let you pass for the present and come to this noble Lord Petre who was not a man of such Contemptible parts as some men would make him he was much of your own Standard both as to Courage and Cunning and therefore as sit to engage with the Jesuits to destroy your Brother Charles as your self and he might as well serve for a Lieutenant Generall and to as much purpose too under the Banner of the French King as ever you served under the King of Spain the Lord Petre differed onely from you in this Point that where he did Espouse a Cause he never left it as you did the interest of your Master the King of Spain that kept your Brother and you from Starving and for his Recompence your Brother and you Sold him into the Hands of the French King but to the point in Hand 1. This Lord Petre was constituted one of the Lieutenant Generals of your Popish Army the Patent I saw in Mr. Langhorn's Chamber in the Month of May 1678. and in the Month of June the Lord Petre received this Commission and I heard a Priest whose Name was Langworth wish him much Joy of the said Commission and this Langworth was Priest in the House of the Lord Petre and was of the Order of the Jesuits and at the Consult at Wild-house where the grand Consult was held in April 1678. And you planted Langworth in the Lord Petre's House as you had Mr. Morgan in the House of the Lord Powis 2. That the Lord Petre was privy to that Consult for this Langworth gave the Lord Petre an exact Account of the said Consult in my own Hearing and that Coleman had another to shew you and I suppose honest Ned would not be behind hand of letting you know how the World did swing and he swung for it to your great Joy So the Lord Petre had the same Account from his Priest that you had from your Secretary in these Particulars 1. That Cazy was sent from England to Rome and that this Cazy was a substantial Man fit for Business 2. That Pickering and Groves were appointed to kill the King and the said Langworth telling the Reward that Pickering was to have Petre's laught heartily and said That a little ready Mony would not have been amiss And also telling the Reward that Groves was to have said It was too little for such a considerable piece of Service but said If they like it I do But this I say That I know Groves to be a stout Fellow But in the Conclusion of the whole Story the Lord Petre was for poysoning the King as the more safe way 3. That by your Direction the Lord Petre kept several Men in Pay which were to be ready to joyn in with the French when ever they should Land and that Portsmouth and Plimouth were in safe Hands in Men that were the avowed Friends of the French King and your self and Petre did agree with Langworth and the Consul who said That they had expected long enough and could no longer bear his Usage of them for he had put many Things upon them which he had promised to the contrary when he was at Bruxels And the Lord Petre did say That he thought the Fool would have more Wit when he came in 4. That the Lord Petre did say That notwithstanding he had received 10000 l. from you yet he had expended 3000 l. more than ever he had received and that he expected that he should have received more from you for that you had received 300000 l. from the French King twice told and that he could not continue your Men upon Pay without Money and that you had put him off to the Lord Arundel of Wardour who would acquaint him with the Pacquet that Sir Henry Titchburn had brought both from Rome and France But when the Lord Petre discoursed him about them and having received no Directions from the Lord Arundel Petre pressing the Lord Arundel with too much Importunity he huss'd him the Lord Petre and called him Fool and asked him what he would have and this the Lord Petre took as a great Affront and complained of it to your self and all the Answer he received from you was That the Lord Arundel was a great Man and was old and that you could advise the Lord Petre to nothing but Patience and in due time all things would be accommodated to the Lord Petre's Content and withall told the Lord Petre that he must obey the Lord Arundel's Directions the French King putting great Trust in him and the Lord Powis and the Lord Belasys This Discourse was at the Lord Petre's House in Covent Garden and thus far the Lord Petre. LORD BELASYS Thus the World may see what a Creature of yours the Lord Petre was But like to like as the Devil said to the Collier you were not at all unequally yoked and I having refreshed your Memory concerning him let me give
you a touch of the Lord Belasys who was a Son of the Church to all Intents and Purposes not of the Church of England but of the Church of Rome your own Church and of the same French Interest so that your Expectations of his Truth and Fidelity to your Designs was not without Ground This Lord having signalized himself in your Service especially in this secret Part of it for you must know there is secret Service as well as publick Service that great Men expect from their Admirers and Followers or else that worthy Lady Mrs. Po would have ere this time been very useless in her Generation But to the Point in hand The Lord Belasys was deeply ingaged with you and your Jesuits in the Popish Conspiracy and that did appear to me because that he in Feb. 76. did write Letters to the Fathers at St. Omers in which he gave an Account That Lewis the French King had by Lachaise his Confessor made a Promise of 300000 l. provided that upon the Payment of the Money Hull Portsmouth and Plimouth and the Isle of Wight might be delivered up to him which you know was a Sum that was distinct from that 300000 l. that you received for the raising of your Popish Forces So that if you had complied with your Promise you would have made the French Masters of Four of the most important Places of this Realm This Lord Belasys did farther acquaint the said Fathers That he was recommended to them as a Person â—it to take Arms and did assure them that his own Interest and the Interest of his Family should be at their Devoir and that he would spend the best Bood he had to demonstrate to the World that he had some Religion and that if Things had been in so fair a Posture when he was Governor of Tangier that he would have delivered it up to the French King 2. That the Lord Belasys took a Commission from the See of Rome granted by Johannes Paulus d'Oliva General of the Society by Virtue of a Breve from the Pope which Commission I saw in Mr. Langhorn's Chamber about April or May 1678. and it was to be General of your Popish Army and on the Month of July he was pleased by a Letter to acquaint Fenwick of his receipt of the same and in that Letter he gave the Fathers of the Society fresh Assurances of his answering their Expectations and that you was pleased to express your great Satisfaction that the Lord Belasys was made choice of for that Work And in the said Letter he tells us That you were pleased to assure him that as soon as the Peace was concluded that his most Christian Majesty would bend all his Forces for England and Ireland in order to subdue Heresy and Schism and that the English Forces already raised and the Catholick Forces that would appear upon the Landing of the French Forces would determine the Point in a short time 3. That in the Month of July 1678. your Servant St. Coleman did acquaint the Fathers that were left in London in the Absence of the Provincial Thomas Whitebread who was then beyond the Seas did attend the Lord Belasys from you to acquaint him That you thought it necessary that Money should be sent down into Staffordshire and VVorcestershire and Lancashire c. to draw up the Roman Catholicks to be here in Town with all speed that they might be ready against the Time of the Landing of the French Forces and that the Gentlemen should go to their Catholick Tenants and pay them Money to bear their Charges up to Town that they should receive from the Lord Stafford by direction from my Lord Belasys and you may remember that it was the main End of Stafford's going round the Country that Summer And that I may not overburden your weak Memory I here conclude and so good Night to my Lord Belasys There is another of your Rogues tho' I confess he is not worth naming and that is Baltimore he is an Irish Lord and your Father made his Father Governour of Maryland and as you are at this day King of Noland so he is Governour of Noland That Villain of a Lord received a Commission for a Troop of Horse for he was so mean that nothing could be meaner in the Eyes of your whole party I remember upon discovery of the Popish Plot he fled for the same and was not examined no not so much as at Feversham for he had Ballast enough and so escaped the Catechising Bout you met with all I thinke he lives at present without being remarkable for any thing but Kidnapping my Kinsman to St. Omers who tho' his Father Mr. Rozer desired that he might be bred a Protestant yet he was by him Perverted to the Church of Rome which is high Treason and I hope the Government will reckon with him for it in due time It will not be amiss Sir to refresh your Memory with a small Touch upon your Jesuits and other Assassins which were also heartily engaged with you in this soul Conspiracy against our Religion and Government and the Life of your Brother Come le ts have a little Patience exercised and consider with your self that they were Men that deserved well from you and worthy of your remembring their good Service they did all they could though you left them in a decent way so that they were fairly hanged for their Pains they had taken in your secret Service and since they met with a convenient Reward for their great and mighty Works Come Sir you may see that there were more that were working besides you and Coleman and the French King they were Labourers in your Harvest Field let us see how they carried themselves and indeed upon the consideration of their Behaviours you may make a Review of your own for you had not so much as one ill Quality in you but they made it theirs and they had not one Roguish Design but you were Master of it I will not charge you with lifting up your Eyes and Hands and wishing the Design of your Brothers Murder good Success as Langhorne did but since he ended his days so Strangely and none called to an Account for it no not so much as the Virago that gave him the deadly Dose What can any Man say for you in this Case I must tell you again of Dr. Short had he been suffered to live he could have told a lamentable Story but he was sent to tell his Tale in another World and 't is well known that the Jesuits and you had not Patience to stay the Ordinay course of Establishing Popery and Arbitrary Power and they notwithstanding you were not Wise enough yet they found in respect of your Zeal you were willing to serve their turn and had at last engaged to serve them upon the most Villanous Terms that ever Man could imagine and though you were neither capable of giving or receiving Advice yet you had the Gift to Pick
on the behalf of the Popish party which became wholly yours they owning you for their head your business therefore was to strengthen their interest at Court by having the King your Brother always ready to heap his favours upon them and to enlarge their Interest in the Country by obtaining such Immunities for them as no Protestant Dissenter could ever obtain in all your Brother's Reign notwithstanding they were more quiet under their pressures and provocations than the other were under your Brother's favours and caresses your party before your arrival at your last reconciliation to the Church of Rome had met with these encouragements to engage men in this design I pray Sir let us compare Notes a little and let us see what encouragement you gave those that were ingaged in the design of subverting our Religion and Government give me leave to put you in the mind of these in their order 1. The first encouragement that you gave them you procured them employments in the Government nay if it were a place but of 20 l. per Annum a poor Catholic was preferred before another if he stood in competition with him you did espouse that party with that zeal which put your friend Coleman into a sort of a Religious extasie when he considered what a Prince God had given them who was become to a miracle zealous of being the Author and Instrument of so glorious a work of converting three Kingdoms and by that perhaps the utter subduing of a pestilent Heresy which hath domineered over great part of the Northern part of the World a long time and that there were never such hopes as in this time notwithstanding the opposition you were like to meet withal and truly Sir I could not blame Coleman for this rapture of his for the providing for your friends was a good sign of your conversion to that degree of Zeal that Secretary of yours spake of Now Sir the getting of your friends into employments did strengthen their hands that they might be fit for business or else Sir Patrick Trant might have continued in the Black-guard for ought I know to the day of his Death but your conversion converted him not only to your Church but also converted him from being a Black-guard-boy to wear a great name and place I pray Sir to what end was Sir George Ratcliffe to have had a Patent for to be a Baron of England but that the Popish party might be more strengthened in the North that the little ones might be encouraged and their numbers encreased by the protection he might give them in your name you were so successful in this that you boasted to Beddingfield and to others before him that were your Confessors that you did not question but that in a short time you could raise an Army of your Cotholick friends to establish the Catholick Religion Obj. Why might not the Son of Charles the First shew himself greatful to Roman Catholicks and procure them an Interest at Court had not they an universal esteem for their Loyalty to Charles the First and Charles the Second Why in such a heat good Sir where was the Loyalty of your Servant Manning where was the Loyalty of those that petitioned Cromwel for Liberty of Conscience and promising in lieu of so great a favour to destroy your Family alas Sir here is Loyalty for you besides all this behold it was they that had a hand nay a great hand in your Fathers death where was the Loyalty of the Irish murderers that renounced your Fathers Authority after they had performed his Gracious Command of murdering of one hundred and fifty thousand Protestants 'T is true they went into your Fathers Interest but not to serve him but to be protected by him from the Justice the Parliament would have inflicted on them for the wicked War they had in conjunction with that Villain Laude fomented against the Scotch and had also contributed to the same and not only so but had commenced that wicked War of the King your Father against the Parliament of England they were the Authors of our Civil War But Sir suppose they had been great sufferers upon your Father's account was that an argument why they were so well provided for alas Sir if that were an argument why was it not an Argument for the old Cavaliers no they were too generous to engage in any design against the good English Government for they thought that when they engaged with Charles the First that they had fought for the Protestant Religion and Liberties of England and therefore many times wondered the Papists herded with them and were much displeased to see Popish Councils and Councellors perferred before their Faces and they scarce suffered to have the Kings Ear therefore Sir you know well enough these men were not sit for your work and service on the other hand you were sure of the faithfulness of your Popish crew their Religion being security enough to you that they would engage in the design with you and therefore they were to be encouraged These Rogues had not one drop of Cavalier Blood in them no not one drop of any Blood but that of the Whore of Rome the poor Cavaliers were therefore to be starved and these fellows suffered to Revel and Surfeit upon their calamities this was the first encouragement they received from you viz. their Interest at Court 2. Your second encouragement you gave them was the check that you gave to those who opposed them especially the old Cavaliers for Sir you may remember that upon the coming in of the King your Popish party made them themselves very fine nay they resolved that none should be so fine as they but the old Cavaliers were resolved not to be out-done but they would be as fine though they did not live to pay the Taylors but when they showed themselves at Court your Brother and you scarce knew them though the Papists at that time had all the demonstrations of affection shew'd them to the great astonishment of the poor Cavaliers but when they had recovered themselves they fell into a desperate rage with the Papists asking them what they did there and began to arraign them for their former Rogueries but you was pleased to tell one that had signalized himself in your Father's service that it was not for him nor any other to malign the Roman Catholicks who had been your Brother's best friends and therefore we might easily see since that few or none durst appear so against them to suggest any thing that might bring them under the least jealousie lest they should be said to asperse the only friends of the Government and I truly have stood amazed that the little Credit the Papists had got by shrouding themselves under the protection of the King your Father should be so highly improved nay it was scarce credible till the World saw the design in which with you they were engaged then we plainly discovered the reason why they that
thrive since you had the benefit of such admirable assistance so that reasonably you could expect nothing less than the extirpation of the Protestant Religion and the total overthrow of England's Liberties 4. You had a certain Queen that had received very great affronts from you know who her Bed invaded and defiled by a parcel of Whores and it was high time for her to declare her resentments by engaging her self in the Conspiracy especially since Mother Church was to be advanced and Heresie which had so long domineered in these Northern Countries to be extirpated she knew what assistance you had from aboard and therefore Good Lady she would not be behind hand at home especially since she could no otherways be revenged for all the wrong that had been done her She was brought upon the Stage for it but he that was most concerned thought he could do no less in point of Honour to preserve her though it was from the publick Justice of the Nation 5. You had your Female Companion which was pinn'd upon the Nation by the Advice and Counsel of Lewis your Ally who in order to secure your Brother and you to his Cause and Interest adopted her a Daughter of France and was to pay her Portion she was a main instrument to encourage Popery and Slavery and what intercourse there was between you and the See of Rome upon the Marriage with that hopeful piece of Houshold-stuff I have already shewed you in my first memorial the band of Pensioners had such a foresight of the sad consequences of that Marriage that they made many Votes and did Address the King your Brother to prevent the consummation thereof as appears in the Journals of the said Parliament and her carriage when she was Dutchess of York and when she wore the Name Stile and Title of Queen was a sufficient proof of her intentions to advance the design of subverting our Religion and changing the Government and murthering the King the Jesuits your trusty friends can well tell to this day 6. You had the standing Court-Whores that were engaged with you for this let me tell you that whoring and consuming the Treasure of the Nation were Crimes that were to be pardoned but their being State-Whores was the thing that rendered them in their day to be a greater grievance to the Nation for they were put upon your Brother to betray his Councils to Rome and France and it was by their aid and assistance that you compleated that mighty part of converting these Kingdoms by poysoning him for though he was a Papist yet not Papist enough to hold the Throne and what steps you took in his time you took by their assistance and sometimes you met with unexpected delays so that you could not preserve alive the work that was upon your hands and therefore it was resolved that he must dye that the work of the time might go on without contradiction or delay your Jesuits resolved upon it in the years 1676 1677 and 1678 the Whores agreed to it in 1677 8 upon the Marriage of the Prince of Orange with your Daughter 7. You had your Brother engaged with you in the whole design but that of his own life and I suppose you could not expect his consent to that part of the Conspiracy and therefore to prevent his Jealousie of that you forged a plot upon the Dissenting party and began with the Lord Claypoole who was committed to the Tower and you had two of your Popish Cut-throats ready cut and dried to have sworn him out of his life and several others so that you might destroy the King and lay his Death at the door of the Dissenting Protestants and in this Sir you happily failed when I appeared to take your Cause and Design and laid it before the Parliament who were willing to save your Brother's Reputation if it had laid in their power and his Life if he himself had been pleased graciously to consent to it but he would not and therefore through the blessing of God you did his business as effectually as if Sir George Wakeman had done it himself This I put down to shew you that since he would not let the Parliament preserve his life the destroying of which was one of the two good things that ever you did the other was your running away 8. You had our high Church brokers that through their folly and madness against poor Dissenters turn'd Pimps for nay prostituted themselves and their Cause to Rome and France rather than the Honest Party of England should escape the gracious Vengeance you designd for them Did they not to serve your Cause and Interest preach Sedition and villiâ—ie the Reformation promote Popery assert Popish Principles decry the Popish Plot and turn'd the same upon the Protestants and endeavour'd to subvert the Liberty and Property of the Subject and the Rights and Privileges of Parliaments In a word many of these Devils brokers they appear'd to all sober thinking men a very scandal and reproach to their Function And that I may clear this point I will instance in some of them by Name that the World may see these sort of Rogues how they help'd on Popery and Arbitrary Power to which they were by your Brother and you engaged and for the doing of which they had your Brother's Countenance and yours 1. The first I shall bring upon the Stage was old Sheldon a whoring wicked Fellow and in his younger days was as lewd as his Gown could make him It is well known that there was none greater than he and your Servant Coleman none more ready to satisfie your former Dutchess that she might turn Papist without any danger to her Soul This Sir was at your instance And to him 2. We joyn Morley that wicked Bishop of Winton that urged the Dutchess with the necessity of obeying her Husband and that there was but little difference between the two Religions and he hoped to live to see an Accommodation between the Church of Rome and the Church of England 3. Your old Friend Gunning he was a Fellow of rare Principles and of him I shall say nothing he having shewed himself in his own colours in the House of Lords in his time 4. Let me add old Cosins that met with his Friend a Papist after the Meeting at the Savoy upon the Return of your Brother and you to the ruine of the Nation and swore God damn me Old Boy we have sav'd Bell and the Dragon and we will not be long before we make your Church and ours to meet that we may be revenged of these Fanatick Rogues And 5. I will instance in Guy Carlton the Bishop of Chichester that said at the Bishop of Ely's Table in the hearing of Bishop Gulston and Gunning He had rather have Poperty than Presbytery in England for the Difference between the Church of England and the Church of Rome might be composed but it was impossible that ever the Presbyterians and the Church of
Undertaking and therefore the Attempt would be to their own prejudice and damage So that ever since the English Nation was blest with the enjoyment of your happy return to England the whole Protestant Party only held their Lives at your Courtesie and the Courtesie of your Cut-throat Papists till you were in a condition by numbers and strength to destroy and extirpate them I cannot by this time but admire your good-natur'd Bloodhounds that did for seventeen Years together forbear to destroy us it was because that one of our Lives would have cost three of yours You may remember Sir that in the Year 1678 you had got at several times from 1674 to that Year about 20000 Men that were able to draw the Sword of your own Religion to reside in and about London who were under your pay to rise as soon as the word was given which word was the Death of your Brother the King they being Officer'd with your Popish Crew were to have joyn'd with your Army that was encamp'd at Hoâ—nslow-Heath and in order to this the French King had promis'd you to land an Army in Ireland and another in England at the same time when you were resolv'd to push for it and then we should have tasted of the Good nature of your Popish Crew as our Friends in Ireland did in your Father's Reign It is to be observ'd that you wanting numbers at home and knowing that 20000 men were not sufficient to do the mighty Work upon your hands which was the extirpation of Hereticks and the ruine of the Protestant Party but wanting a back for your edge you therefore applied your self to France for his Aid and Assistance which you had obtain'd sooner had not that bloody Monster been engag'd in a villanous War with his Neighbors but as soon as he had made a peace with them then you were resolv'd upon the aforesaid mighty Work but by that time your Designs were discover'd and the French King was obliged for that time to change his measures and so were all the Popish Princes of Christendom Your villanous party of the Synagogue of Rome did at that time judge it convenient to draw in their Horns and conceal these foregoing principles or suffer them for a season to lye dormant by them Yet to give you your due you never suffer'd us to be any considerable time without some Testimony of your Good-will to us to shew us how ready you and your Cut-throats were to do thâ—â—e meritorious Offices of converting us with a Baptism of Blood and of Fire But God I hope will keep this Land from the one and London from the other 2. This brings me to the villanous Practices of your Church and your Party in all Ages which are living Testimonies against your villanous Crew to this day I pray call to mind the vast numbers of Christians that have been butcher'd by the Roman Inquisition of which it is reported that Pope Paul the fourth should say That the Authority of the See of Rome depended upon it and that it was settled in Spain by the Inspiration of the Holy Ghost not that which came down from Heaven but that which was sent to Rome in a Cloak-bag Remember what infinite slaughters were committed upon the Servants of Christ by the Crusades and Holy Wars Authentick Authors tell us That in France alone Ten hundred thousand Persons were slain in the persecution against the Waldenses and upon no other occasion but their dissenting from the Church of Rome What think you of the Parisian Massacre by which in a few days there were murder'd above Forty thousand persons for no other reason but because the Church of Rome had adjudg'd 'em Hereticks I could give you â— thousand Instances of their Attempts abroad but my point is to put you iâ— mind of their Attempts here at home I pray call to mind that upon the Reformation of Religion in the time of King Edward the sixth how many Rebellions were raised against the King and the then Government at the instigation of the Priests and Fryars It would not be amiss for you to read at your leisure the Chronicles of England that testifie the same the number of the Rebels may be judg'd by the account we have of those that were slain and those that were taken Prisoners at some of the Defeats that were given unto them Of those that did rise in Devonshire and Cornwal about Five thousand were slain and taken Prisoners and in the Râ—bellion in Norfolk and Suffolk about Five thousand were slain that were in Rebellion in those Counties besides those who were taken Prisoners and the Rebellion in Yorkshire in which many were destroy'd After the death of King Edward the sixth you may remember that Queen Mary mounted the Throne tho' some say that she was in her own nature merciful yet her Religion obliged her to those Cruelties which left an indeleble stain upon her Memory For her sake as well as for your own the Commons of England endeavour'd to exclude you We remember also that tho' her Reign was but short yet like yours it was very bloody for in the campass of three or four Years there perish'd in the Flames near Three hundred and as many if noâ— more perish'd in Prison through Torment and Famine and all barely upon the score Religion Upon her Death and upon the accession of Queen Elizabeth to the Crown Religion was again reform'd and notwithstanding the hard usage she had met withal from the Popish Party and the Cruelty that had been us'd upon the poor Protestants she not only buried all resentments but was willing to suffer the Papists to live quietly both in the enjoyment of their Estates and in the private exercise of their Religion Surely you then cannot but with the greatest Horror consider by how many ways the Pâ—pists attempted to destroy her Person and overthrow the Government by Assassinations Conspiracies Rebellions at home and Invasions from abroad In pursuance to their bloody Designs Pius the Fifth did not only excommunicate and damn her and all her Protestant Subjects but likewise curst all the Papists that should give any Obedience to her or her Laws the whole Bull proceeded upon her being a Heretick and the said Pius in a most holy and reverend manner deprived her of all her Dominions and Dignities and absolved all her Subjects from any Obligation of Allegiance and included them under the same Curse tho' Papists that should yield any subjection to her And have not your villanous Crew exemplified this Doctrine by their Practices obeying the Commands of their Roman High-Priest for I may say the Treasons against that great Queen were more in number than the Years of her Reign but through the Goodness of God all their wicked Designs and Purposes were defeated and she died in peace much lamented by all her Protestant Subjects King James your Royal Scotch Grandfather succeeded her the same course they took with him Parsons that impudent
of the Faith of the Church of Rome that were not of the Faith of the Court of Rome and therefore though they gave all manner of Encouragement to the Romish Religion yet by great Caution and Vigilance they have very much prevented the undermining the Temporal Authority they had over their Subjects Our former Kings of England though they were of that Faith and did countenance their Subjects in that worship yet they would not let them be enslaved by any pretended Papal Jurisdiction but your Villains were blessed with a man that would not only allow the Bishop of Rome his rascally Worship but also allow him to enslave the Nation with a Power he challenged in the temporal Government this your Cut-throats were assured of and therefore they would not in good manners to your great Zeal be in the least behind hand to joyn with you to hasten the Exit of your Brother who would by no means keep pace with them to their horrid Designs and therefore they judged that he was their only Let or Hinderance in compleating that mighty work 3. You was not only a Papist but a bigotted papist and being such you put your self under the Conduct of the Jesuits this Confederacy of yours with those zealous Sons of the Synagogue of Sâ—than could not be otherwise than very fatal to the Kingdom as to its Religion and Government and the person of the King your Brother for you arriving to that Pitch of Zeal and putting your self under their Conduct they in gratitude to you could not but endeavour the hastning your Accession to the Crown of which you were as ambitious as they were zealous and therefore you both joyned to destroy your Brother that was converted to the Religion of Rome but not zealous enough in driving on the Jesuits Designs had you Brother's Zeal been as fierce as yours he might have been cooling his Heels at St. Germains as well as your self and good Company there It was not for want of good will to your Religion but for want of a galloping Zeal which was no ways consistent with his voluptuous Living that you and these villanous Jesuits and the Popish Party conspired his death these were the three Advantages on which your Cut-throat Party did build their Hopes which made your Jesuits in the most considerable part of the Kingdom and in many places abroad to preach their King murthering Doctrine the better to prepare those of their Communion to joyn with you in the Fatal Blow that you and your Council at St. James's had designed to give the King your Brother 6. A sixth Testimony that appeared against you and your Party was the Trayterous Correspondencies that was maintained in order to carry on a Rebellion in Scotland and Ireland for Scotland your Villains took the Advantage of the great Heats that were created in that Kingdom by the dreadful Tyranny of Duke Lauderdale who acted by your Director and used all those Methods that might provoke a Rebellion and your Servant Coleman who had a great Interest in Lauderdale was often with him by which the Jesuits understood what Measures to take and a Party was appointed to incense the Villainous Bishops of that Kingdom against the poor Protestants there whereby their Lives were made very miserable and the Usage of their Ministers who by providence were driven upon the Coasts of England and came to the House of Lords where an Account was given to the Parliament that sat in the year 1678 in the month of December and the Parliament took their Cause into Consideration and dismissed them of their Irons and Thumckins and addressed your Brother against Lauderdale and as you had a Party of men that acted their part with the Episcopal Party in Scotland thus to vex and torment the afflicted Protestants in Scotland so your Jesuits they entertained another party of Rogues of the same Complexion to assocIate themselves with these poor Protestants in order to keep up their Animositie against the Prelatique Party withal urging them that they at that time had a fair Opportunity to vindicate their Liberty and Religion and that it could not be done but by the Sword and whereas that the King had received many of their Addresses yet he was so addicted to his pleasures that he neither would nor could take little or no care of redressing their intolerable Grievances and the great Cause of their ill Usage proceeded even from the King himself by which Sir it appeared their great Design in Conjunction with you was to weaken your Brothers Interest in that Kingdom for they urged that if they did not stir in time they would be put under some Forreign Force which would be more vexatious to them and you found your Design so well that your Jesuits received an Account from Scotland dated Feb. 7. 1677 that all Diligence was used to put the Potestants in that Kingdom of Scotland upon opposing Duke Lauderdale and his Villains and questioned not but that all things should be so ordered that a Rebellion should be raised in Scotland and a little before you went down to Windsor you knew that Messengers were sent down to Scotland to press the poor people to a resentment of the Tyranny they lived under by the Male-Administration of Duke Lauderdale and such that were of the Ministry in that Kingdom and especially since they could not obtain the Liberty of Conscience notwithstanding all their humble Supplications to the King therefore the Sword must do it a Rebellion at last you obtain'd in order to destroy these poor Wretches the Consequence of which was the total enslaving that Kingdom the better to fit it for its Submission to the Romish Religion As for Ireland I have already at large not only in this but in the first Memorial laid open your Practices in that Kingdom 7. Call to mind Colemans Letters and say that you knew nothing of them if you dare there it is said that you had a mighty work upon your Hands no less than the Conversion of three Kingdoms Come Sir deal freely was it to be brought about by Arguments from the Scripture no Sir I did never find the Knowledge of the Scriptures abound in the most learned of them all we have scarce a Protestant Cobler but is able to cope with if not to baffle a Romish Priest it could not be that these three Kingdoms could be converted by these sorts of Arguments with which your Cut-throats were little acquainted and their preaching is generally too silly and empty to prevail with Protestants to change their Religion unless some few weak Debauchees and weaker Whores Well you were to convert three Kingdom I pray how was not your Conversion and Conviction by enlightening the eyes of the Protestant Party by a Faggot and by the powerful and irresistible Arguments of the Dagger those Letters of Coleman's tell the world that the design prospered so well that there was no doubt but that it would be managed to the utter Ruine of
Crew could not well tell what to say to it but to conclude this Head I will say that he had an Orthodox Villain to take his last Words or we might have had a better Account of Mr. Bedloe 9. a Ninth Witness that I shall produce is Honest Ned Coleman what you dont know him Look upon him and let my old Landlady look upon him and take notice of what he saith you know that the Lords that Examined him had a mighty mind to bring you off hoping that you would mend your Manners and therefore instead of charging Coleman with Treason they charged him with Forgery and asked him why he forged Letters in your Name truly Coleman thinking that Treason being the nobler Sin of the two told them the Letters were not Forged therefore when he was by them shewed a Letterâ— that was to be sent to Father Oliva the General of the Jesuits which Coleman Frankly owned to be his hand but like a Coxcombe câ—â—ld not forbear accusing my old Landlady and said That it was prepared by Order of her Royal Highness So my Dame was brought in for a snack the good Lords finding that Ned was but a lacky Secretary and therefore they would go on with their show and upon that Resolution they shewed him a Letter from you to Father Lachaise which he shewed to you which they would have had him say that you rejected it but Coleman thanked you for that piece of Civility and never said any such thing then the said Lords asked him whether he had not delivered you a Letter from Father Ferier to which Coleman was pleased to Answer that Sir William Throckmorton brought a Letter to you from Father Ferier which he delivered to you and confessed that you were acquainted with and privy to your Correspondence with the said Father Ferier and St. German well what became of his Correspondence with Father Lachaise the Lords could prove that he the said Lachaise had received a Letter and a long one too by Colemans receipt of an Answer thereunto and here Coleman could not deny but that he had sent an Account of his Correspondence with Ferier to which you was privy and did likewise Confess that you was privy to that long Letter But Sir here was another Farthing upon the score and that was Colemans going over to Bruxelâ— and he had no more Manners then to tell the Lords that examined him that you sent him over and that â—he Lord Arundel of Wardour knew of his going over and that you knew the sum and substance of his Correspondence with the Popes Internuncio there which you may take a short Rellish in these few Words contained in the Correspondency wherein he saith August 21st 1674 that the Design prospered so well that he doubâ—ed not but the business would be managed to the utter ruin of the Protestant Party so that you being acquainted with the Correspondence you could not be unacquainted with the Designs prospering so well and you also could not but expect that in some short time the business would be managed as Coleman intimated to the said Internuncio In a Word there was another sharp question asked Mr. Coleman why he had so great a desire to speak with the King your Brother and your Selâ— when Coleman was ordered to attend the Lords to which Coleman most gravely Answered that it was to know how he shall carry himself as to naming of you now Sir what can a Man think of all this truly your Friend Prance doth tell us that you had an opportunity of doing your businesâ— when the four Lords were sent to the Tower Coleman was in a strait how to Name your Name and you in a strait till Coleman was Hanged alas good Sir what could you do less then get rid of such a Fellow but to conclude this Head I will put you in mind of three things 1. That Coleman was sensible that at the very board there sat some who were acquainted with the Design that prospered so well and therefore when he appeared he struâ—ted and hectored like an Emperour and told the Councel that in accusing him they shot at you and truly if they had shot at him in good Earnest they could not well have missed you for they reading some of Colemans Papers they thought if they medled with him you could not escape and gave him many a Curse for not keeping out of the way and truly if he had I should have made but a sorry Voyage of the Plot tho' through your grace and goodness and the kindness of your Rogues I have no great reason to Bragg of my gettings to this day 2. Coleman accused you home for being Privy to the Correspondency that he held with Ferier and Lachaise and the Popes Internuncio which all the World must conclude was Trayterous enough nay though the two last years were embezled yet those that were found were so plain that when they were read Sir John Whitelipps himself bepist his Breeches for fear and had not one Word to say for his fellow intelligencer and thought to have escaped upon the score of his interest in you but alas Coleman had so fairely brought you and Gammer Modena as partakers of his Crimes insomuch that had there been but Vertue enough in the Government you must have mounted the Stage and have been made a partaker of his punishment 3. I did not wonder at your excessive Joy when Coleman was Hanged for then you was in all probability out of danger from Coleman and when Peter Talbot was sent into another World and Dick was forced to Abscond you had none that could do you much hurt tho' you was very Jealous of poor Plunket I know not for what reason yet your good Brother maintained your ground so well that there was not that necessity of hanging of Plunket unless it were that he would have nothing to do with Talbot in giving Evidence against you but your Gratitude was great to that poor Teague and so it was to your good Brother that saved you from the Gallows but what saith the Proverb Save a Theif from the Gallows and he will be the first that will cut your Throat in a Word get over this Confession of Coleman before the Lords that were appointed by Parliament to Examine him and you will do the best thing you ever did in your whole life next to your running away and your admirable gratitude to your Brother 10. I must bring up the Rear and put you in mind of what I did deliver in upon Oath against your Conspirators as for the Jesuites they were but a rascally Crew and you were content that they should be charged and that the Parliament should be told of the Plot of the Jesuites and no more there was not a word of the Plot of James Duke of York and Albany against the Government and the Religion of these three Kingdoms Oh no have a care of him I pray don't bring him in least two of a
Family should be brought to publick Justice within the Memory of Man that would be an unpardonable Fault but what could not be done in 78 was done in 88 and so it 's all one in the Original only a parcel of honest Men were murdered to please your good Worship that you might not bid England Farewell with dry Lips but Sir some of your Ignorant Crew might ask why you would consent that it might be so much a Plot of the Jesuites truly Sir the necessity of Money to pay your Popish Army and Sir John Whitelips thought you would do well to consent to that or else you could not have found a Cripple in all Westminster no nor in White-Hall or the Cockpit and a Cripple you must have or not one Penny would be given therefore the Project was tryed to see what a Cripple the Popish Plot would make therefore when your Brother had opened old Veracity with his Lockram Jaws began to tell the Parliament of a Plot ay and a Plot of the Jesuites and the old Coxcomb made such a Stir with the Plot as if be were resolved that the Plot was to be a Cripple for nothing else but to countenance you and your Cattle in some further Roguery or to get Money at least but the Parliament instead of resolving upon Money they joyn together with the Lords and resolved if possible to get to the bottom of it and turning it over and over they found my Testimony to be very full against five of your Popish Lords and the Earl of Barkshire's Letters made a Sixth notoriously Guilty but he did in 1678 fairly rub of for he was as much affraid of being called to an Account by the Government as you in 1688 was of being called to an Account by the Prince of Orange notwithstanding your being born free your Popish Lords were the Viscount Stafford the Lord Arundel of Wardour the Earl of Poâ—is the Lord Petre and the Lord Belasys against these I was a witness and therefore I shall put you in mind of what I testifyed against those Impudent Traitors and I will give you a Particular of the Charge I gave in against every one of them As for Stafford I will not trouble you with any further matter against him but put you in mind that he was to have been your Paymaster General of your Popish Army and no doubt but he might have been as dexterous in that Affair as your old Greasie Guts was who I think is famous to this day for nothing but his cheating of three Kings and to give him his due I think there is no great hope of his being better unless his young Mistress's Pranks can do any good upon him as for old Stafford you had dipt him in and the poor Fellow hath paid the Debt due to his Faults and therefore I shall say no more of him 1. The said Lord Arundel in a Memoâ—ial of his to Thomas Whitebread that was hanged for this Conspiracy which was to be turned into Latin and sent to the Memorial of the Jesuits wherein an Account was to be given to the said Father General of the Progress that was made in the Affairs of England for the carrying on of the Design or the mighty Work you then had upon your mighty Mind and mighty Hands which Memorial consisted of these nine Particulars 1. That he with others of your Council at St. James's had procured several zealous Protestants who Persecuted the Papists to be turned out of the Commission of the Peace in Wiltshire and several other Counties in the Kingdom and that care would be taken to clear the Commissions of such Men as should not stand well affected to the Catholick Party 2. That the Laws made since the coming in of the King your Brother relateing to Religion excepting the Test Bill did rather tend to the disadvantage of the Phanatiques then Catholicks 3. That the Lord Powis had endeavoured to procure several Governours in and about Wales and had procured some to deliver up their Government into the hands of Catholicks when others in the Dominion of Wales by giving them several Summs of Money and that he did not Question but that he should procure the Interest of the Isle of VVhite and Portsmouth because that Sir Robert Holmes would appear in any Circumstance his Lordships humble Servant and a word was enough to the Wise and to Encourage them he was pleased to tell them that he was so sure of Portsmouth that there would be no resistance when the French Fleet should come 4. That most of the Justices of the Peace then in Commission especially about the North were Men easy to be drawn on to Countenance the Proceedings of the Catholicks 5. That the General of the Jesuits should be assured that Sir William Godolphin your Ambassador in Spain had been very true to the trust Committed to him by the Fathers of the Society of the Kingdom of England and Ireland 6. That the Lord Arundel would venture his Life and Fortune to Satisfye the expectations of the General of the Society of Jesus and the whole Order That a Stone should not be left unturn'd to promote the Catholick Religion and if that you had not complied with them as you did they would have served you the same Sauce as they designed for your Brother for that they were as sure of the Aid and Power of the French King as ever you was and would have compleated their Design without you had not you given them fresh Instances of your Resolutions to bear up in the Cause then in hand and to tell you the truth they could have been contented that you had been more â—it for their purpose than indeed you were and the Reason the Lord Arundel gave was because that you was not a Man either â—it to Govern or Receive advice but what you wanted in Understanding you made up in your Zeal and therefore they were the more willing to join with you but your Brother had cheated them so often that there was no trust to be put in him 7. That he was confident that they might begin to build Colleges and erect Schools before a Year to an end and that he himself had procured several Catholick Schoolmasters to be connived at especially a School near to VVinchester the Masters name of which was Taytour 8. That he wondred that he had received nothing from the Pope when as there were such assurances made to Mr. Coleman by Cardinal Howard in the Month of July 1677. 9. That he was an humble Servant to Father General and the whole Society and desired that his Humble Duty might in a most especial manner be Presented to him and thanked him for his last kind remembrance of him 10. That though he had spent several Hundreds of Pounds upon repairing his House in Wiltshire yet he would not be wanting to appear in carrying on the Design This Memorial you were Privy to excepting to assign that Clause in the sixth Particular
Charges of the Government and that whereas they were asâ—ured by the then Marquis of Huntley that they begun pretty well in Scotland and that if four Hundred Thousand Pound Per annum were setled in England upon the King your Brother and his Heirs for Ever that then your Brother would stand no more in need of this Peevish Parliament and when that he was Dispatcht their would be something for a Successor to come to therefore they prayed you in these Letters that you would Perswade the King your Brother to move in Parliament for an Additionall Revenue for such an Additionall Revenue for him and his Heirs Upon your sight of this Letter you did Prevail with the King to move it in Parliament and what became of the Motion we all well know for though your Pensioners were willing to often to grant the King a sum of Money yet for fear of becoming as useless to themselves as they had been Dangerous to their Countrey they fairely denied him such a Revenue but the Jesuits when they found their Expectation Defeated did Write to these Lords that notwithstanding the unwillingness of the Parliament to settle such a Revenue that they questioned not but to find a Sufficient Revenue for the Successor without the help of a Parliament which Letter you saw and was much pleased that the Jesuits were concerned for the support of the Successor 10. That when your villanous Conspiracy was Discovered the said Lord Arundel of VVardour in your presence did chide Justice Godfrey and told him that he had been to forward in taking my Depositions which did put Godfrey into great feares as he told me but a Week before he was missing and that he told him in your Presence the Day before the King went to New-market that the said Justice Godfrey would finde the Parliament would give him no thanks for his paines LORD POWIS It is time to hasten to this Noble Lord and put you in mind how far he was Ingaged with you in your mighty Work that you had upon your Hand and you must own him as necessary a Traytor as you had in the whole bunch therefore to ingage him to you he had your Countenance and in return of such a favour he was as Obsequious as any of them all Therefore 1. You may remember that at your direction he Intertained in his House one William Morgan one of the Consult held in April 1678 and that this Lord Powis knew him to be such for by his then Secretary which was Mr. Peirson he sent a note to speake with Mr. Morgan in which he said he hoped that they had come to a Resolution in the affair it being four of the Clock in the Afternoon by this Peirson the Lord Powis received his Commission to be Lord High Treasurer of England from Feâ—wick and Ireland and this Peirson delivered to them a Letter from the Lord Powis and 300 l. for the use of the Society in which Letter he said that he would venture his Life and Fortune in the affairs and give me leave to tell you that I saw the Commision before that Ireland and Fenwick had it at Langhorn's Chamber in the Temple 2. That there was a Commission from Rome that the Government of the Nation should be in the Hands of the Lord Powis and the Lord Belasys but the Lord Arundel of Wardour who was alwayes to preside in their councels and by the way of Coleman you were to have an account of their Resolution and by the way I pray observe that Powis and Arundel of Wardour had Negotiated between you and the Pope for Eight Years and that Powis and Belasys was also to Execute all such orders that they received from the Generall of the Jesuits and the French King with which you were also acquainted from time to time by Mr. Coleman and some times by the Father Generall himself and from Lachaise on the behalfe of the French King and from both those that you might not appear least the evil that fell upon Coleman might have been your Portion 3. Further to oblige you the good Lord Powis bred up his Soâ— at the Jesuits Colledge at Paris and in order to his better Reception there you recomended him to the care of Father Lachaise and in his Letter to his Son there was one sent to Father Lachaise in which he and the rest of the Popish Lords engaged with you in the Conspiracy against the Religion and Government earnestly importune the aid and assistance of the French King which Letters bore date about the latter part of December 1677 and in his Letters to the Fathers at St. Omers of the same date in which his Lordship protested his Prudence in the managing the design there on Foot and that he had distributed the 2000 Tickets amongst the Catholick Party in the West that were then Well-wishers which were to be their Protection from the Rage of those who were to come from France to Suppress the Protestant Party and that he had a good Friend that had a great authority in Wales and the bordering Counties that would Joyn in with the Catholick Party and in a Particular manner promised that the Militia in Wales should not be in any posture to give them any Opposition and that he had procured severall to be made Deputy Lieutenants by the favour of his good Friend that had promised to appear for the Catholick Party when the Design should take effect and that it did become them to bear a Signall respect to his Friend which he Named but I will not but your old Friend Mr. Arnold can for a need for he hath been an Excellent Friend of his the cleane contrary way and how the said Lord gave a great Incomium of Sr. Politick Fring Mr. Arnold's Friend for that he had made several worthy Justices in those parts that were hearty Men in the cause what ever the World thought of them 4. That in other Letters of more Ancient Date to the Fathers at St. Omers he the said Lord Powis did write to the Jesuits that he had procured severall forward Fellowes to be turned out of the Commission of the peace Particularly Mr Arnold and Mr. Scudamore and others did but Bark against the Catholicks and you told them that you were pleased that a Lieutenancy through out all England should be constituted of such as should be True Men and further assured them that there was great summs would be Expended as soone as you should receive that summ of 300000 l. from the French King to enable you and these Letters bore date 1675. And another of 1675 And furthermore told the Fathers in that of 1675 that great numbers were dayly converted to the Faith and obedience of the Roman Catholick Church 5. In his Letters of June 1678 he the said Lord Powis acquainted the Fathers that Mr. Coleman was to open in his business and did desire the Fathers to admonish Mr. Coleman to be more close and stick more to
sort of Vermine that are branded for infamous Rogues and so it is no great matter what they say but for the generality of Protestants they have received the Discovery of the Popish Plot with Hearts that were thankeful both to God and their Deliverers And let me tell you for all your Sneering that our sober Protestants are Men of as much Learning and Knowledge and as acute in Judgment as ever your Party were since the Usurpation of the Bishop of Rome Sit down and once in your Life time look like Men. Protestants are Men free from silly Superstition Men of a clearer and more noble Religion which inspires a clearer and a more Illuminated Reason that ever Popery could ever pretend to do and truly you and your Party must Imagine that the sence of the Protestant Party within these three Kingdoms was so stupid that they could not understand Truth from Fals-hood without the assistance of your gracious Vindication but Truly you had better have let the business alone for you and your Popish Crew have so weakly defended the Point of your Innocency that you have Spoiled your Cause but you have your Reward for the great peice of Service you did your selfe and Party and so good Night Mr. Innocency and let us heare what you have further to say to this Charge in hand why the World should not believe you and your Party guilty of carrying on that Horrid Design to Murder the King your Brother and subvert our Laws Liberties and Religion Obj. 2. You and your Papists used to say that it is not the Clamour of the Hainousness and Horrour of a crime impuâ—ed but the Guilt and cleare Conviction of a crime proved that renders Man accountable to Justice What a prâ—tty sort of an Irish Evasion you have found ouâ— One would think that Tom Jenner or Franck Wyâ—hens or old Robin Wright your famous Chief Justice had been teaching you some weak Rudiments of that little cunning they had to help you in the time of Need but whether they had or have not it s much alike to me let me aske you this one fair Question Did Coleman and the rest of those Traytors that suffered for that Conspiracy lie only under the single imputation of a Crime Were not some indicted fairly tryed fully heard and were not wanting to themselves in the least to make their Defence Nor did the Courts Judicatures want patience to heaâ— them and they were upon full Evidence Convicted and Condemned others impeached in Parliament by the Commons of England why sure Mr. Wise-acre you will not make this a single Imputation Nay I will appeal to Jack Carâ—yll himself if this be not many degrees beyond a single Imputation come Sir by your leave and the leave of Mrs. Pugg and his Welsh Highness it was no Clamour that prosecuâ—ed your Villaines but by a Proof allowed by all the Courts of Justice and by the High Authority of both Houses of Parliament bring but half so much proof of your Honesty for ought I know you may yet do mighty things for your Self and Party Obj. 3. That as Treason is the worst of Crimes so is the stain of Innocent Blood when shed by Perjury hard to be washed of Ans. I suppose you â—udge this to be a Peice of Newes I pray Sir was it not put into the last Paris Gazette or into your friend Dyers News Letter I suppose you thinke the Sons of Men here as ignorant as you and your Party have been foolish and Knavish but to put the Matter out of doubt you and your Crew say no thing but what all the World knowes already But where was â—your Proof of any Act of Perjury Committed its true you by your St. Omers Boyes did make three or four Attempts up on me and by a number of Whores and Rogues you battered at me twice and you were defeated and your forces fled to the place from whence they came in six or seven Years after when my Witnesses were Dead or durst not Appear and you having two Villanous Juries you made a fresh Attack Rallied all your Forces and then you carried your Point by the help of your four â—ambskin Rogues then sitting in the Kings Bench and you paid dear for it it cost you 3037 l. 9 s. 6 d. besides the Subornation Money old Hodge received to make him and his inferiour Bumms merry and for half the Money with such Judges and two such Juries a Man might have Convicted twenty Men of a far greater and better Reputation in the World then ever I could pretend too nevertheless I defie the worst of my Enemies to charge me with any hard Thing that was in my Power to have avoided But pray Sir what was my being in Town or my not being in Town in the Month of April or Irelands being in Town or not being in Twon in the Month of August 1678 to the whole Discovery of the Popish Plot though Truth of both those Points for which you like a Villain Suborned Witnesses against me so that I suffered the greatest Barbarities that ever were heard of or seen since the supposed Conquest What I say was all this to the purpose to Colemans Letters and those of the then Lord Berkshire that Confest upon his Death-Bed the whole Conspiracy therefore you and your Party shall not need to make such a stir about the Convicting of me of two pretended Perjuries but you might as well have Convicted me for being one of my Lord Mayor of Londons Coach Horses or Jack Gibbons for writing a Traytorous Letter against your Brother that was never blessed with the Gift of Writing and Reading in his whole Life time yet he was Accused upon Oath by some of your Suborned Crew and lay in Prison upon the said Accusation for six Months and you would have blessed the poor honest Man with a decent hanging had not the Villany of your self and Party been detected but as I said before so I say again I shall stand by the Truth of what I have Sworn to the last Minute of my Life and could you have brought five Parliaments to have owned and justified your Honesty and your keeping your Coronation Oath you took or should have taken you would not have been driven ouâ— of your native Country from the enjoyment of your Crown you acquired by the Murther of your own Brother to be a Fugitive and Vagabond as a just reward for all your Perjuâ—y and villanous Conspiracy against the Religion Laws and Liberties of these three Kingdoms Therefore you have no such Cause if the matter were well examined to make such a noise about Perjury and my being Convicted for Perjury nor nor Mr. Prate-apace your broken Colonel nor Mr. Wind and stink your Logger head of a Warden nor Dr. Tickle-pitcher his Name-sake no nor Mr. Pass-maker That was so lewd that he was capable of nothing but the Priesthood for being to bold with a certain Seal of a Friend of his when he
was Employed Obj. 4. You think you made a pretty Spot of Work when you did attempt the Baffling the Discovery of the Popish Plot and therefore you Huff and Bounce in your Apartment aâ— St. Germains and cry'd out that the possitive Swearing of every Person in every Matter Hand over Head is no Convection of anothers Guilt Ans What a Mouth you make What do you think the drawing up your Lockrom-Jaws will do the Busines What do you mean by Hand over Head Do you think with your Irish Understanding to impose upon the Ignorant which if there were a number of your Puppies that did not Understand the busines so much as they ought to have done yet all Observing and Understanding Men did then know that the Testimony against your Popish Traytors passed all the Scrutiny and Sifting imaginable of both Houses the then Privy-Council and two Comittees of Secrecy and the whole Body of the Kings Council learned in the Law had the Scanning not only of the Proofs but also of the Objections you and your Party made against it but your Rogues are so unreasonable that nothing will satisfie them surely Mr. Stuart you would make a Man believe that you and your Friends were Men that aspired to prodigious Parts that you should think that after so much Debate and Deliberation so many great Personages and venerable Judges should not understand whether the Witnesses Swore Hand over Head as well as your good Worship sweet Sir truly you and your Villains had and still have a mean Opinion of the Wisdom of the Nation as to imagine that they should have so little to do in Parliament as to put themselves to the Solemn trouble to Swear and Credit Witnesses only that Swore Hand over Head Obj. 5. It may you will say that false Accusations may be so laid as that the contrary cannot possibly be Demonstrated by the Party seeing no Mortal Man can distinctly prove where he was and what he did said or heard every Day and Hour of his Life therefore the Accuser ought to be a credible Witness that is not tainted with Crimes and Villanies and also That every Accuser be strengthned with probable Circumstances that bring along with them some appearance of Truth distinct from the bare Accusation it self but the Witnesses of the Popish Plot were not credible Witnesses for they were Guilty of great notoâ—ious Crimes and had not one Circumstance to corroborate their Testimony Ans What you have brought me to the Devils Sheep-Shearing Here is a great Cry and a little Wool What you would by your usual Nonsence flatter Mankind into an implicite Faith in your Dreams Alas Sir you may assure your ragged Crew at St. Germains that there was no such heavy Task put upon your Traytors at their Tryal nor would there have been any such a difficulty put upon you could we have brought you to a Publick Tryal 't is true when your Villanous Jesuits and other Traytors were at the Bar they were in a Friendly manner put in Mind of some remarkable Passages as Overt-Acts of Treason the Times and Places of Consultation and making Promises and some of them so large which were not so easiy forgotten but that had they but had a willing Mind they might have rubbed up their Memories Ans 2. As to the credibility of the Witnesses this I must say such as they where they were once fit for your turn and imploy'd by your Party to carry your dark Designs agâ—inst the King your Brother and the Government I trust Sir if they had been Saints they had not undertaken with you nor would you have Employed them and when they were in your Service you said they were Honest but when they discovered your Rogueries then Oh! what Rogues were they but as little Credit as they had you would give all your Shoes in your Shop that you had been blessed but with the Fiftieth part of that Credit that I my self had with four Parliaments in your Brothers Reign nay the Popish Plot was made out so plain and was so Notorious that Staffords Attainder could not be Reversed no not in that wicked Parliament you Packt together in the time of your Usurpation I say again That if you had been blest with half the Credit that I had from those Parliaments you should not need to have been mumping at St. Germains but Sir let me ask you one civil Question Could it be supposed that I or any of the other Witnesses could be supposed to be without Faults that joined with you and your Party in that Conspiracy and when your good Brother at the request of both Houses of Parliament was pleased to grant us his Pardon ought not we then in Point of Justice let him and our Country have the benefit of our Testimony What Crimes others might have stood Guilty of t is not now my Province to take notice but they were reputed very honest Men when they were engaged in the Devils Service and Yours and received the Wages of their unrighteousness with all the ease imaginable and as soon as they left your Work upon your Hands and approved themselves Honest Men then all the Faults of their lives were reckoned up as if they had been Poxt in their Morals as you were once in your Body without the least hope of Cure and if your Brothers Faults and yours had been written in your Foreheads Lies Murders Adulteries Cheats Oppressions Subornations Perjuries would have so plainly appeared that Exchequer Tom would Swear by his Cherry Cheeks the worst of all the Witnesses were Saints in Comparison of you both Ans 3. As for Circumstances of time and place it is Notorious that no evidence was ever attended with greater Circumstances and those so pregnant that all Rational Men were convinced of the Sincerity of the Testimony but yet like restless Beasts your Party will not admit that a Papist could be ingaged in such a Design Why not Was this the first Plot that was discovered against that Party of Men What would you make it morally impossible that they should be ingaged in such a Design as this Come let us call in Sir Simkin and he says he is a good Historian and he Swears by his Quondam beades that there were several Plots of theirs Discovered in the time of Queen Elizabeth against her Person and Government two or three in King James's time against him and another in the time of your Father and two against the Life of your dear Brother and you had the grace to be your self in both of them for the one you were Pardoned and for the other you were justify'd till you at last most graciously Poysoned your dear Brother which was the best thing that ever you did next to your running away you may say that the Roman Catholick did in the late Wars serve under your Father what then might they not be in the Conspiracy against the Son But this let me tell you That I have often heard this