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A84758	Dæmonium meridianum. Satan at noon. Or, Antichristian blasphemies, anti-scripturall divelismes, anti-morall uncleanness, evidenced in the light of truth, and published by the hand of justice. Being, a sincere and impartiall relation of the proceedings of the commissioners of the county of Berks. Authorized by the ordinance for ejection, against John Pordage, late minister of Bradfield, in the same county. Published for the vindication of justice, and satisfaction of the conscientious, in the name, and by the order of the said commissioners and assistants. With some notes, and animadversions upon a book of the said John Pordage, initiuled, Innocency appearing, &c. / By Christopher Fowler, minister of the gospel at S. Maries in Reding.	Fowler, Christopher, 1610?-1678.	1655 (1655)	Wing F1692; Thomason E840_1; ESTC R207466	137,560	179

Salvation he that will goe to Heaven out of Gods way must enter in without Gods leave The next is Mr. Nutkins who is reproached by the Doctor for blinde Zeale and rigidnesse of Spirit A most unjust and false accusation the man is a man of eminency for knowledge piercing into the Scripture Soundnesse and Piety a man fearing God above many a long stander and a great proficient in the knowledge of Jesus Christ and one of those happy man he that loves the truth for the truths sake and our Lord Jesus in sincerity The last that were present but not named are Master Stroud and Major Fincher whom this Doctor calls more moderate than the rest yet their hands were to the Sentence we reply yea and their hearts too and we believe that they would go from one end of the County to the other upon their bare feet rather than it should not be done to rid the Souls of people from such a Blasphemer to whom they give no thanks at all for his seeming commendation The last Commissioner named by him but not present is Colonel Arth Evelyn a person of Conscience and Honour whom the Doctor calls A chief contriver of the designe against him and that he set the wheel of others Zeal and false Passion in motion and that he prejudiced him in London and the Country telling all he met that he was abominable and monstrous c. Ans As for designes we are not in the least conscious of any unlesse it were a design to advance the good of Soules and to vindicate the fundamentalls of the eeverlasting Gospell from the tongues of Blasphemy and Lewdnesse as for this Gentlemans driving on a designe and setting others on worke and telling all he met that the Doctor was abominable here are three untruths in a breath not one sentence true no not one 'T is confessed that he hath said to some that this Doctor was an unworthy false ignorant man before he was sentenced in which he spake his knowledge and he looks upon his ejection as an act of justice in God and an act of conscience for God in the Commissioners and a good mercy from God to the Countrey We cannot conceive what design this Gentleman is in a capacity to entertaine against this Doctor upon any selfe account as this man insinuates as though his ejection were not justice but some Plot we doe really assure our selves that the Commissioners can truly rejoyce that their proceedings were not in fleshly wisdome but in singlenesse and sincerity in this businesse and so long as they have rejoycing in themselves they doe not regard the censure of others they know the praises of men cannot cure or cool the Conscience in point of guilt neither can the strife and reviling of tongues in the least disturb the Conscience in point of uprightnesse it matters not what all the world saith so God speak peace onely they take notice that It was very unrighteous and unconscionable daring in this blown-up Dr to speak evil and that so publickly of his superiors we doe not believe that any of those great Friends of his with the frequent report of whom we poore Countrey people are amused would ever incourage him to or will support him in these unjust practises we believe it is and desire it may be farre from them we believe he made more bold to vent his spleen upon the account of his friends out of his owne presumption than ever he will have thanks for his labour As for the Ministers used at pleasure made and represented as it pleased the Doctor amongst his owne of all sizes and conditions their answer is this They desire to be found in the blessed righteousnesse of the Lord Christ whom they desire to love above their lives that in him they may appeare blamelesse before the Father and they do sincerely though weakly labour to buckle upon their bosome the breast-plate of righteousnesse which will keep the faces and reproaches of men farre enough off from their hearts They crave leave to say as their betters have said when they resisted to blood non patimur sed videmur pati We seem to suffer in the eyes of men we doe not suffer in our owne Consciences They hope they are not guilty in the transaction of this businesse to suffer as Malefactors in the account of Christ and they know they are most unworthy to suffer as witnesses upon the account of Christ They remember what Luther said when the Popes paper Bull roared against him sure said he I am afraid because I am unworthy of such an honour as to suffer for Christ this roariag Pope meanes not me What are they that they should then be reviled maligned for the sake of Jesus Whether they have cast the Doctor with Daniell as he meekly saith into the Den or with the three Children into the fire or whether he hath not cast the glories of the Gospell and the joyes of reall Saints into Sathans Den quantum in se and into the fire of the Pit the day will reveale that great day of Revelation These Ministers humbly tell their Fathers in Christ and all their fellow-labourers that they have been so inured to the noise of Nilus that they scarce heare it now they have been so accustomed to the reproaches of Anabaptisticall Arminians Anti-sabbatarians Anti-Christians Anti-ordinanced men c. that they hope they are not vain they are become deafe to them they are even almost Scandall-Proof To conclude this Doctor calls the Commissioners Crucifiers Plunderers of his holinesse at the entrance of his book and now grosly slanders some of them Oh what would these men doe if they had but the liberty of their hands as they have of their tongues he clamours as though he were Persecuted when he is indeed the Persecutor he doth not suffer but act Persecution Let the Reader judge whether the Commissioners Persecute him or he Persecutes the Commissioners what would these men doe if they had power they sparkle rage and fury through their eyes and tongues the Lord grant the Gospell may never feele the weight of their hands the little finger of the Familist and Quaking Antiscripturist would be heavier than the arme of Queen Mary former persecutors would passe for mercifull men in comparison of these Haeretici sanguinarii and the more spirituall the Heresie the more bloody 't is true they have either been smiling and fawning and meek as they call it in the cradle but it is as true they have ever prov'd foule and bloody in the saddle Blasphemy in hardness would be matchlesse in cruelty It is good for us to draw nigh to God in this glorious compleat though now vilified righteousnesse of Jesus Christ who hath and doth and will deliver us The last note upon this Doctors Appendix pag. 106. concerning his Appeale to the Higher Powers HE saith many were against his appeale and his Petitioning the higher Powers and why because it was a thing too

dost not see it but thou shalt see it These upon credible testimony 1. That there is neither good nor evil but as men apprehend it And that he might do any thing if his mind did lead him to it Positions enough to astonish the heavens and shake the earth and tend our very bowels from another guesse man then this Dr. both for life and learning But he is gone to Eternity and to us that knew him out of his grave he preacheth a sermon upon that text Rom. 11.20 Thou standest by faith be not high minded but fear let us pray pray pray that God would keep us in the knowledge love and practise of all divine truth But to return The next witnesse for the Dr to prove that Mrs Grip did rail c. is John Tench p. 63. We wonder that this witnesse also is not encomiasted with the titles of a sober pious Christian we cannot tell what this man would swear but we know with sadnesse of heart what he saith he hath twice in publick denied the bloud of Christ to be the bloud of God and this as we fear not through mistake or ignorance for he was often told and severall scriptures were alledged to that purpose viz. that it was the bloud of a divine person not of the divine nature but he still persisted in his foolish to say no more cavillations and afterwards said to one of us that Christ died and rose again and then became God This is one of John Tawneys followers a blasphemer of the Lord Christ a slanderer of Christians for his sake a late abettor of the Anti-scripturall Quakers at Reding and one whose inconsiderablenesse makes him audacious The rest are Eleanor Burly Mrs Kent ibidem and in another place John Hambleton is quoted What savour these three have among understanding Christians that know them we will leave to others the very naming of the last will make those that know him even to hold their noses Ob. See how bitter these Priests are and how rigid Ans Our reply is this we have concealed many passages that we might have rehearsed to avoid this very objection but we do conceive it inevitable and unreasonable too for this objection will be made by those who have gall and bitternesse and are the most bitter people in the world if our relation be false we yield to suffer if it be true why are we bitter is it because we will not see the everlasting Deity the precious bloud the blessed word and ordinances of Jesus Christ trampled denied blasphemed and sit still with our hands in our pockets but according to our measure speak a word for him and his is this bitternesse then the Lord make us more bitter in these fundamentalls Jesus Christ will give us but little thanks in the day of our account for our Gallionisme or moderation Obj. But grant for once that these witnesses are against ordinances sabboths scriptures grace Christ for so they are some of them against most and every one of them against some yet their testimony is legall Ans It is confessed and their testimony was received as such and we desire it may be weighed with all our hearts Obj. The Commissioners would not receive their witnesse Ans We reply This is a sordid and false imputation of the Drs upon them they were examined the Dr had his liberty to propose any questions and to produce any witnesses it is confessed the Commissioners did refuse some of the witnesses because they could not speak to the matter in hand as when it was deposed the Dr had spoken blasphemy at one time in one place they offered to depose that they heard him speak otherwise at another time and in another place and this is the naked truth yet the Commissioners are clamoured upon by him and his friends in Court in city in town in countrey even for crucifiers c. To conclude that a man of such pretended glories visions sanctity likened even to Christ almost as to have no sin for the Devil hardly to work upon him by should have no more no other to appear in his behalf but as thou hast seen Reader seems to us wonderfull observable The fifth article of the first charge That by male and female Genesis the 1. we are to understand by male the Deity and by female the humanity and that these two become one flesh Adde to this two other articles of the last charge viz. That he preached at Bradfield and did labour to defend it pertinaciously that the little horn in Dan. 7. vers 8. was Christ and being told that the horn made war with the Saints yet he persisted to say that he was Christ That he is ignorant and insufficient for the work of the Ministry The Drs Answer To the first of these the Dr gave no particular answer Animadver 3. The Dr could not tell what to say then but since in his book pag. 44. he answers thus to this article That by male and female might be shadowed forth the Deity and pure humanity the male representing the Deity the female the pure humanity which by union become one the spirit of the soul brought up by Christ into a mysticall union is made partaker of the divine nature Answer What un-edifying matter and language is this is this to speak to edification exhortation and to comfort is not this and all the rest taken out of the euangle of Henry Nicholas and Jacob Behmen is there not a serpent in this grasse Irenaeus observes of the Gnosticks that they did with Scripture words and phrases as if some skilfull Artist should make with precious stones and pearles the most exquisite effigies of some Heroique prince and when it is done and compleated in comes some phantasticall fellow and pulls it all to pieces and with the same stones and pearles goes and makes the picture of an ape or a dog How hatefull is this saith that Father as it was then even so it is now the Gnosticks in the first times and the Familists and Quakers in these last times differing no more some circumstances excepted then Simon Magus differs from Simon the Sorcerer the Familists take Scripture words phrases and expressions which shine as pearles in that place and meaning where the hand of the blessed spirit hath set them and they dismember them and pluck them asunder and with them according to their own whimsies they make sometime an ape or a dog or both sometime non-sence or blasphemy and oftentimes both as for instance such expressions as these Christ in you the fellowes of Christ Christs brethren partakers of the divine nature I in them and they in me you need not that any man teach you taught of God perfect as the Father the letter killeth the spirit to God c. Now consider how our new Gnosticks wrest and rack these scriptures and make them speak what they never meant how do they take these pearles these choise texts of heaven and with them

she had two children a boy and a girle she had enough one for her husband another for her self To which the Deponent answered as it shall please God then the Dr replied piff it is as your selves will but saith that the Dr did never perswade her to live from her husband To the third article she heard the Dr and her husband in discourse to the purport of that article but what the words were she cannot depose Animadver 5. We shall take the Drs answer as it lies in order First As to Mr Lewin he was the man who related the foresaid articles himself to two of the Commissioners * Mr Whetwhyck and Col. Arthur Evelyn to whom telling them of the lewdnesse of these principles they both viz. Mr Lewin and his wife replied we are ready to depose it and did farther affirm to Gol. Evelyn that they did hear the Dr assert the same things at another time and that in terminis of his own accord and this with so much seeming willingnesse that the gentlemen stand amazed at his fordid shrinking from and denying of his own testimony which he wrote with his own hand and altered as he pleased Besides Mrs Lewin related the very same to Mr Woodbridge who did offer to attest it upon oath We do not wonder at this carriage of his at all our wonder was that Mr Lewin of all men should accuse the Dr the proverb is t is an unlucky bird that defiles his own nest the truth is he thought if he should discover the Drs lewdnesse some of the Drs party might discover his own vilenesse he was loath to speak the truth for fear he should be discovered and now through a righteous providence he is like to be discovered because he would not speak the truth He was afraid his crew would tell of him and now some honest and understanding officers hearing of his basenesse have detected him take his character thus This Mr Lewin we are unwilling to say Minister of Hamsted Norris was formerly a member of the army where he lived in wickednesse to no small height and that First against God by cursing and swearing and this as was judged by some he reckoned as a piece of his perfection in a ranting way Secondly against others by pilfering to say no more in a most fordid unworthy manner Thirdly against himself by sinning against his own body if he himself is to be believed boasting of his wickednesse he could not blush nay he gloried in his lewdnesse and proclaimed his sin as Sodom under the pretence of a shaking or convulsion fit he was taken in an unseemly wanton da●●ance with a woman Being asked whence he came in a profane way personating the Devil he answered I came from compassing the earth to and fro seeking whom I may devoure From credible persons of pious repute we have this sc that he should speak to this purpose I preach of faith and am Orthodox in the countrey but I do not mean so All this and much move we have from persons of place and integrity in the Army who are ready to testifie what they have said out of their own willingnesse to the service of the gospel and a desire to promote the good of souls and in this businesse of shrinking in his evidence Mr Whitwick and Col. Evelyn do intend to prosecute him either as a slanderer or a false swearer Obj. But is not this cruelty even to fetch the bloud of mens names Ans Our consciences bear us witnesse that we take no pleasure in it we are compelled thereto and partly by his own carriage our apology shall only be that of Mr Calvin for himself in the same case against the like persons viz. Better it is that the names of men should rot above ground then that the glory of our Lord Jesus should be trampled upon nay in the least impaired Obj. Were it not better to be silent are there not of Familists many and bloudy too Ans We remember what Luther said he should be contented to be accounted any thing so he might not be found * Modo non arguar reus maledicti silentii guilty of a cursed silence in the cause of Jesus Christ as for danger with a little poor faith through mercy we have learned to say our times are in Gods hand and to apply what the Lord Christ saith a sparrow doth not fall to the earth without my Father Secondly Th●s Everard mentioned in the fifth article was first a separatist then a scoffer at ordinances then a curser then a blasphemer then by report a conjurer as the Dr saith but indeed rather an apparitioner as the Dr is then mad and frantick and committed by authority to Bridewell The Dr in his answer labours industriously to cheat his reader by saying that this Everard came to him with a pair of harvest gloves upon his hands for work as though he had not seen him before when as for many weeks and for most daies in the week this Everard came to the Drs house before harvest began and after he was gone the Dr reported that he was an honest godly man Thirdly As for John Tawney the Dr exhibites a long answer of his feeding the hungry and his pure ends in entertaining strangers c. Ans May it please the reader to consider that this Tawney at first denyed the Scriptures then cursed them and lately within these five moneths burnt the Bible openly in Lambeth wickedly calling the blessed Gospell of the Lord Christ the grand Idol of England that he pretended he had a revelation to destroy the Parliament who hath since written a book as full of open blasphemy and sly sedition as a toad is full of poison this man findes entertainment as at other times so about August last for a fortnight together at the Drs house and the Dr quotes for his defence in so doing the thirty seventh article of the government viz. All such as professe faith in God by Jesus Christ c. Consider whether these men will stretch that article it seems by this kind of men John Tawney himself doth professe faith in God by Jesus Christ Ob. But what is this to the Dr he is not of Tawneys way Ans it was lately confessed to a person that will depose it by one of the Drs own visioners one of his own way and his own family That Dr Pordage and John Tawney were both of one judgement Fourthly the Dr answers he entertains those that come to him under some shew of godlinesse or other Ans We would not seem to carp therefore we will not propose this question to him how many shews of godlinesse there are the sequele will resolve it We professe we do not know neither can we learn of any that he hath entertained but Abiezer Copp notorious for blasphemy and rantisme in whose behalf this Dr appeared before the Committee at Reding and being opposed by one of us replied but with much meeknesse that we

they have his Arthingtons and Coppingers proclaim it in Cheapside why the times yet will not bear it Secondly That you said confidently like a prophet that within two years from the time of your speech there should be no government in England neither Parliament nor Magistrate nor any such This will be deposed from your own mouth the last of these we see is false there hath been a Parliament since that time and there are Magistrates at this day This did John of Leyden with his visions and revelations he prophecyed the deliverance of the town of Munster which was delivered up and the prophet was tortured and hanged upon the highest steeple in an iron cage which remains to this day saith Spanhemius as a monument of the Magistrates justice and to learn men to take heed how they despise the Deity Henry Nicholas proph●cied that he should be raised from the dead after three daies but his memory bones and all lye rotting to this hour David George prophesied of his rising from the dead too indeed he was raised but not to life but to execution the Senate of Bazill being deceived by his seeming meeknesse and hypocrisie while he was alive and being informed of his wicked doctrines against the Lord Christ when he was dead the Magistrate saith Spanhemius by a solemn ordinance commanded his wretched corps in his coffin to the place of execution and there burnt it to ashes Thus did Hosman whom his disciples called Eliah as our Dr is called Father Abraham who said that Strasburg was the new Jerusalem this fellow was clapt up in prison by the Magistrate the Anabaptists prophesied that he should come out with an hundred and fourty four thousand sealed ones and smite the earth but he never came out but died in prison many more might be recited for these quaking familisticall times but we will name but one more and that is out of New England Mrs Hutchinson when she was imprisoned for her blasphemies by the Magistrate prophesied that she should be miraculously delivered as Daniel out of the Lions den but it proved false she was afterward banished by the Magistrate to Road-Iland from thence removed to the Dutch plantation near a place in the Map called Hell-gate where the Indians contrary to their wont at least beside it slew her some say burnt her and all hers Ob. If it be said did not Mr Knox prophesie of the hanging of the Lord Grange and Mr Wise-Heart foretell the shamefull death of Cardinall Beaton who was hanged over the window out of which he lookt to see the man of God burnt so did not Luther speak many things of Germany and of his own writings that came to passe Ans First These men were sound in the faith and godly Secondly They did not pretend immediate revelations Thirdly They speak by the rules of Scripture as the transgressours shall be cut off and the enemies of God shall consume away Fourthly They spoke them as their judgement they imposed them on no mans faith these were no more revelations and prophesies then what that eminent * Dr Twisse Saint of God whose memory is precious said to one of us upon the breaking of the short Parliament in 1641 concerning the Arch Bishop of Canterbury sc I do much mistake if ever God suffer that man to die in his bed Thirdly As to his visions The Dr speaks much of his visions and those of the dark-world the world of Divells and the light world of Angells and the eternall world of glory and that he is now past Enthusiasmes it seems he hath been acquainted with that cheat of the Divell also and lives in glory the height of these pretended glorious visions renders them but the more deeply diabolicall Visions in Scripture are for the matter the same with revelations only they differ in this that visions are by the representation of the images of things to the mind as to Esay Jeremiah the Scriptures use the terms promiscuously it is commonly received that Paul was converted by a vision Acts 26.19 I was not saith he to King Agrippa disobedient to the heavenly vision he was strengthened in his great labours pains and dangers by a vision Act. 18.8 9. The Lord in a vision by night said to him be not afraid but speak and hold not thy peace But what is this to this Dr Paul by a vision instrumentally from a blasphemer becomes a preacher his man by his visions of another kind from a mean preacher becomes a bold blasphemer God doth not now convert men by seeing visions but by hearing sermons we mean by the word the Lord Christ in heaven keeps to his own prayer sanctify them through thy truth John 17.17 What God may do by permitting and ordering the apparition of the Divell to some sinner is another case but it is very rare either for * See Sleidan moribundus suis acclamasse scitur ut cadem qui lectum conscenderet arcerent lib. 23. cap. ult terrour and despair as to Crescentius to whom the Divell appeared as a black Dog with fiery eyes and ears hanging down to the ground or for recovery which is extraordinarily seldome we know but one and that in these dayes and because fit for these dayes take it as it followeth from a godly ear-witnesse under his own hand Dear Sir I have one thing to tell you which is a very remarkable passage of divine providence amongst us here is one Nicholas Earle a Shoemaker sometimes living at Totnes now a souldier in the fort of Plymmouth within this moneth he did estrange himself from God conceiving there was no need of the ministery that it must down and that the Sacraments were but ceremonies and the Sabbath not to be observed to that purpose he argued with some about it on the Saturday my man was present and saw him in his hot contestation falling to the ground he detested those that bear the image of God conceiving himself the only Saint he was against singing of Psalms insomuch that when others did sing he would say they did lie like Divells he resolved to open his Shop windowes the next Lords day but on the Saturday night he was under strong temptations the Divell seemed to appear to him with terrible strange roarings on the Sabbath day he sent for me and when I came at the first I was welcome to him but suddenly he spit in defiance at me seeing him in that temper I left him The Munday about twelve a clock he came to himself and hath a strong conviction of his errours whereas he had left praying for a blessing and returning thanks for the creatures received he is now much troubled at the thoughts of it I have had conference with him he cannot be thankfull enough to God for his mercy in returning him so soon he desires the ministers to blesse God for his return and prayes that he may be stedfast in the truth this that I have written to you is

begin to think the Divell is afraid of the Ordinance and shall take these bold words for an untruth till you produce what Saints when and where and by whom persecuted Ninthly Why do you say pag. 112. and often that the Commissioners have used all means to hinder a rehearing of your cause for our parts we have not heard of any that hath done this neither have we attempted it directly or indirectly there is such a boasting of so many great friends you have between Charing crosse and Westminster Hall that we have expected it every week but for our hindering of it till you prove it it must go for an untruth and a design of your own to harden the Familists and the Quakers in London Bristoll Lechlade Reding c. The thi●d particular covetousnesse First Why did you defraud one of your neighbours in bargaining letting and renting the man was before the Commissioners to make his complaint and hath since made it severall times to understanding Christians Secondly Why did you after you came out of your Familisticall pulpit on the Lords Day presently fall to discourse with one of your neighbou●s of buying and selling were you so full of the world you wanted vent could you not stay for your own day Thirdly Why did you hire out your teams of horse to carry bark and this to the great hinderance of your neighbours who did use to earne mony that way Fourthly Nay why did you when your poor neighbours had agreed to carry at such a price agree at an under price for lesse to get the employment out of their hands are these your parcells of perfection Fifthly Why did you rent land and sow it to halfes when corn was dear and your living worth hundreds by your example you did fearfully harden your people in earthly mindednesse your heart mortified by your visions of darknesse thought you could never have enough Sixthly Why did you tell the people in the pulpit when you came to Bradfield that now the great pot should go over and what a liberall house you would keep a most seraphick argument is it not but they say they could never see pot pan nor kittle indeed they say you are a very miser an earth worm Seventhly When one of your neighbours was taken from his plough oftentimes in your businesse went to Newbery eight miles for you five or six times and to London for you thirty nine miles and you promised to pay him for his labour why did you give him for a hundred and fifty miles travell even two shillings Eighthly But Dr when there was a collection for a poor burnt * Mariborough town and you spake to the people to give liberally and many knowing the place did resolve to do so why were you the leading man so cruell you threw down your twelve pence even to the scorn and table-talk of some rich inhabitants in your parish Ninthly Why did you wring dues from the people beyond the customes of the parish for marrying t is true this was put in as an article against you by your parishioners and t is as true it was put out by your accuser you vapour much upon this in your book can you say that any of your persecutors did take such a sordid way as to bargain before hand and to demand more then their dues Why did you trouble your parishioners that often before the Commissioners when all the difference did not amount to above eighteen pence your visioning family hath been complaining and crying as the Horse-leach give give the Lord cure this dropsie in yours and you in us and ours The fourth particular ignorance taken out of his Book First Why do you say that the law of nature prompts you and your way to require an eye for an eye a tooth for a tooth doth the law of nature allow private revenge why are you such an ignoramus as to joyn with the Pharisees to corrupt the text in the Epistle to the Commissioners it seems you have a warrant from the law to revenge your selves it concerns the Magistrate to take care you may not have power too this is not only ignorance but tends to sedition also Secondly What do you mean in saying But the law of grace commands us to deny our selves do you mean that Gospell commands do thwart the commands of the law we know that Jesus Christ did not fill up much lesse contradict the law but vindicate and clear it from the false glosses of the Scribes and Pharisees whom you imitate in this also Thirdly Why do you confound the essentiall word Ibid. and the engrafted word and make them both one we hope it was your ignorance though we have too many reasons to believe that even in this you did lift up your heel and kick at Jesus Christ or else to make no other word but the word within us as Swincfield Gortyn and then if you come to have power let all godly men beware their throats Fourthly Why do you say that Mat. 28.19 Go teach all nations and baptize pag. 27. that baptisme there may very well be understood of the baptisme of the spirit shew what one of all the many expositors received for pious and orthodoxe did ever sense it so in those primitive times either they had those extraordinary gifts of the holy Ghost before they were baptized as in the case of Cornelius Act. 10.47 or else they were baptized before they had these gifts as the disciples at Samaria Acts 8.16 17. Did not you in this maliciously asperse all water baptisme and through pride and ignorance dream that you should receive power from on high to bestow the graces of the spirit on whom you pleased Fifthly Ibid. Why do you say that the Apostles did administer the baptisme of the spirit to all their converts how many visible converts were there and upon that account baptized who never had either the extraordinary gifts or the saving graces of the spirit what do you think of the Familists old acquaintance Simon Magus Sixthly Why did you say that baptisme is a Gospell ordinance instituted by John and now to qualifie the businesse you print it instrumentally do instruments use to institute ordinances thus you labour to support your ignorance by a falsitie fore-thought 7. You say that your judgement is for persons to live as single though in united formes and your deliberate practise is thereafter well but why do you say that this practise is according to that of Christ Mat. 19.12 He that is able to receive it let him receive it Pray tell us doth not our Lord Christ speak to the unmarried read the 10 verse the disciples said if the case be so it is not good to marry Christ answered But all men cannot receive it or abstain from marriage cannot live Batchelours what is this to you that have been a married man these many years 8. So the other of Christian Eunuchisme there be some Eunuchs for the

kingdome of heaven you are of the last sort you were not born so and you were not made so of men but you have made your self so but we tell you again you ignorantly if not wickedly pervert the text for the text is meant of the unmarried nay the very drift of the chapter from the first verse to the ninth is to confirm the bond of marriage as indissoluble against the Pharisees what doth this concern you that have a wife and seven or eight children 9. You are most unhappy in your Marginall text to 1 Cor. 7.38 let them that marry be as though they married not do you think the meaning of the Apostle is that man and wife should not dwell together as man and wife but live as you pretend you and Mrs Pordage have done as though you were not man and wife It is clear that in this you and Mrs Pordage are no more then you and Mrs Flavell 10. Why do you say Christ was born of a Virgin and lived in virginity Christus non duxit uxorem ejus actio est nostra instructio said the Gnostick● Respondet Clemens conjugium Christus approbavit doctrina miraculis Chem. exam par 3. leaving us an example was that the reason why he did come When we think of the infinity and glory of the Lord Christ how unsuitable marriage was to him and how his work was to give up his soul a ransome we cannot but admire at the blindnesse of this Dr who still is driving at this that Christ is but a type Why do you say that you had two spirituall worlds discovered to you and apply to these worlds that text Heb. 1.2 By whom also he made the world were the worlds in that verse made by Christ your mundi Idaeales your phantasticall worlds at Bradfield pittifull ignorance 11. Why do you quote that text Heb. 5.14 but strong meat belongs to those that are of full age and have their sences exercised to discern both good and evil and wretchedly apply it to your spirituall sensation as you call it and the opening of your inward sences to see cloven feet and dragons is this the meaning of the holy spirit 12. You say among the devils you saw principalities powers dignities and you say this is answerable to the text Eph. 6.12 Tell us who told you which was this and which that did any one point with a rod and say to your inward hearing there goes a prince there goes a power why do you force that text to palliate the matter and cheat your reader this text proves that the devils are by Gods just judgement rulers of this world but it doth not prove any government or princedome among themselves 13. To hasten You say you had an opening of the eternall world the kingdome prepared where you were as Paul once c. pag. 78 and you call it the world to come and quote for it Heb. 2.5 He hath not put in subjection to the Angels the world to come whereof we speak We do confesse this text is controverted Calvin understands it of the world restored by Christ our right being forfeited by sin Piscator of the mundus renovatus as in 2 Pet. 3.11 * So the Annotations on the New Test others of the gospel world because of the context But we conceive it is hardly sence to understand it as you do of the kingdome of glory for how alien and forreign is it to S. Pauls mind to read that text thus he hath not put in subjection to the Angels the kingdome of glory of which we now eak Though this might have passed for a small mistake in another yet in this Dr it is considerable because he pretends his hearing of the unutterable misteries of that kingdome and therefore his ignorance is observable we believe S. Pauls rapture but not his in the least by any means 14. In the same place you say that your divine transportation was agreeable to that of John 17.24 Father I will that those whom thou hast given me may be with me where I am that they may behold my glory What ignorance and wresting of the scripture is this was Christ with you in your chamber at Bradfield what did you behold of the glory of Christ there it is justly charged and fully proved and righteously sentenced against you that you have blasphemed that glory sc his Godhead and bloud and you do not tell us that in this third heaven you saw any thing of either is that sweet prayer to be understood of visions here on earth or of believers coming to and abiding in heaven with Christ for ever 15. So Heb. 10.19 is quoted by you to speak for your entrance into the eternall world by your visions but the text saith no such thing the text doth not say we have an entrance into the holiest by visions which are delusions but by the bloud of Jesus 16. What did you mean to call wisdome and quote for it Pro. 8.20 23. the eternall virgin See the last Annot. Assemb upon the text do you know what you say who is there meant by wisdome is it not Jesus Christ did he shew you the way that leads to the life of virginity to leave your wife why do you call him the eternall virgin is it not to possesse your people against marriage are you out of your wits 17. Why did you insultingly p. 103. charge Mr Trapham a godly person one of the Commissioners and now print him a man of mean intellectualls and why because he never heard of any other death and resurrection of Jesus Christ but at Jerusalem you pittifull ignoramus is not this true doth not the Apostle say Christ being risen from the dead dieth no more Rom. 6.9 and in that he died he died once and Christ was offered once not often Heb. 9. last Now if he died but once he rose but once and both these he did at Jerusalem You say that Mr Trapham never read or never understood these three texts First Heb. 6.6 You Dr is that text understood of backsliders reall crucifying Christ on earth or their wicked trampling and profaning of his bloud now he is in glory was this done by their hands or by their hearts The next you quote is Gal. 3.1 Is this text understood of a crucifying Christ indeed or the shewing forth of his death in the word and Sacraments doth not that very verse say that Christ was set forth amongst them and before whose eyes mark Dr not by whose hands and crucified amongst you not by you For the other text you quote about Christs rising Eph. 2.5 T is true Gods elect were quickened with Christ what then what do you conclude ergo did Christ rise in other places besides Jerusalem The truth is Mr Trapham was transported with a just indignation to hear this mans brother vent such Familisticall stuffe concerning the man child reported by himself to be born at Bradfield sc that this man child