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A12490 A confutation of a certen booke, called a defence of the true, and Catholike doctrine of the sacrame[n]t, &c. sette fourth of late in the name of Thomas Archebysshoppe of Canterburye. By Rycharde Smyth, Docter of diuinite, and some tyme reader of the same in Oxforde Smith, Richard, 1500-1563. 1550 (1550) STC 22819; ESTC S105000 121,196 338

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it not them nowe appeare playnly that Saint paul ment that christes bodie is really in this sacrament and that my lordes exposition of saint pauls wordes is vayne false Farder he maketh an aunsweare vnto Saint Austen which doth plainly affirme Contrae cres conium lib. 1. cap. 25. that euel man do eate christes body and drinke his bloud vnworthyly in the sacrament and are therby giltie of christes bodie and bloud althoughe Christ sayeth he that eateth not my fleash and drinketh not my bloud Ioan. 6 shal not haue life in hym and sayeth that Austen mente not of the eatynge of christes very fleshe and of his bloud but of the sacrament or of the bread and wyne which are signes and figures only of them This is à wounderful fond and à blynd wreastinge of Saint Austens wordes For he sayeth manyfestly that synners do eate christes fleash and drinke his bloud in the receauinge of the sacrament and my lord sayeth that he ment that only of the bread and wyne I denye not that Austens intent was there to proue that good thinges auayle not them that do euel vsed them But what therof Is that ynoughe to proue that he mēt that il men receaue not christes very bodie flesh bloud in the sacrament What learned man wold make any such argument as this is A good thīge auayleth not the il receauour of it ergo the il receauer receaueth it not S. Austen ment that good thinges il Aduersus Cresconiū lib. 1. ca. 25 vsed profite not the il vser and for an example he bringeth fourth christes flesh and bloud the receauinge of which auayleth not but hurteth them that do il and vnworthilie take them althoughe christ sayed that he which eateth and drinketh not his flesh and Ioan. 6. bloud shal not haue lyfe in hym What may à man desyre to be spokē more plainly Also S. Austen opēly affirmeth that the wicked man Iudas receaued the bodie and bloud of christ De baptismo contra Dontistas lib. 5. ca. ● and ye saye my lord that he receaued them not but only bread and wyne as à figure of thē What anusweare is this Is it not à manifest subuertinge of the trueth Who wil beleue such teachers yf he regarde any thinge the health of his soul It is very true that sacramentes be signes as ye alleage Aduersus Maximinū lib 3. ca. 22. August ser 28. de verbis secundū Lucan out of S. Austen of other thinges so is the sacrament of the aulter à figne of christes death and passion of the mystical body of christ the church and of christes natural body really the rin present Was not the paschal lābe the eatinge and oblation of hym á figure of christ of his body his sacrifice and passion and yet he was veryly offered in sacrifice and eaten Was not also christes death and resurrection Rom. 6. à figure of oure dyinge vnto synne and rysinge vp from synne vnto á newe life and yet they were also very Rom. 4. thinges and done yn dede doth not paul cal christ à figure of god the Heb. 1. fathers substaunce and yet he is one thinge with hym and of the very same substance that he is of Why then may we not wel and truely saye that the sacrament of the aulter is both à signe and the thinge it selfe signified in à maner as S. Austen sayeth Epistola 23. that it is The sacrament properlye consisteth in the outward and visible formes of bread and wyne and in the oblation and receauinge of christes body and bloud and the thynge of the sacrament is christes body and bloud therin conteyned and encrease of goddes grace with other benefites of god which only the good men receaue What yf figures and pictures be often tymes called by the names of the thinges themselfes figured pictured Can ye proue therby that the sacrament is so called of the old doctours à signe of christes body bloud that yt is only à signe of them The bysshop fo 99. pa. 2 and that it conteyneth not the same in yt reallye No not so for the doctours affirme that it is both á signe of those thinges and hath in it presently them also Nowe ye do wreast S. Chrysostoms wordes cleane out of tune For he sayeth that we see christ with oure eies in the sacrament touch hym feele hym fyxe oure teth in his flesh tast hym and so fourth but not dygest hym as ye saye falsely because that we do al those thinges vnto the outward kindes and formes of bread and wyne which do hyde and couer hym there secretly Which sainge of hym is much lyke vnto the phrase or maner of speakinge which scripture vseth when it wytnesseth that loth Note Abraham Iacob Iosuae Mary Magdalē and the apostles sawe touched hand led and hard angelles and god hym selfe because they sawe touched and handled the shape or forme of man Gene. 18. 19 32. Iosuae 5. Mar. vlt. Act. 1. and hard his voice vnder which forme and shape those angelles and god did then appeare and spake vnto thē And S. Chrysostom vsed that maner in speakinge to perswade vs the soner both to beleue christes body and bloud to be really present in the holy sacrament and also to receaue them wyth greater reuerence and deuotiō Ye nowe excuse your selfe my lord for settinge out of the presence of christes bodye and bloud in the sacramēt and say that when ye wrote in à catechisme by you translated out of latine in to Englishe that we do receaue This bysshop recāted his first doctryne of the sacrament christes bodye and bloud bodily wyth our mouthes ye ment by à figure that is to say that we do eate and drink bread and wyne figures and signes of them This excuse is not true for ye wrote so manifestly then of the really presence of christes bodie and bloud both in the sacrament and also in heauē at ones that nothinge myght be written more plainly and that neither ye could yourselfe nor none other of your brethren other wyse take it and therfore ye perceauinge that that doctrine did myslike and offend the rest of your brethren yn christ did shortly recante yt as it appeareth by the settinge furth agayne of that The bysshop fo 10 ▪ pa. 2 The Worshippinge of ●he sacramē booke called à catechisme Moreouer ye write of the adoration and worshippinge of the holy sacrament or of christ hymselfe very vngodly speakinge against al learned catholike doctours and teachers and affirminge that they haue brought the people in to horrible idolatrie to worship visible thinges made with their handes as their god and maker Is this my lord your charite so openly to report falsely of men The old doctours did euer The confutation teach the people as we do now also teach them that they ought not to worship the outward formes and