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A65022 A vindication of Mr. VVeld wherein, the case between him and his opposers, is truely stated, and the church-way of Christ soberly asserted. In answer to the aspersions most unworthily cast upon him by Mr. James Cole, Tho: Potts, Tho: Arrowsmith, George Johnson, and Ralph Clavering, (an ill recompence of all his faithfull endeavours for their eternall good) and themselves manifested to the world what spirits they are of. By a friend to truth, and an enemy to lyes. By a friend to truth, and an enemy to lyes. 1658 (1658) Wing V484; ESTC R219234 19,875 30

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irrationall Paper would no wise or so●er man ever have urged and it s a Providence that themselves should lay open their f●l●y in Printing the Paper whi●h gi●es Mr. Weld not so much po●er in his own place as the poo●est P●t-m●n in the Parish for he shall have his vote in the Electing and putting out a Lecturer when Mr. Weld him●el●e must ha●e nought to doe therein Now this simple Paner Mr. Weld refusing to subscribe they cry out He absolu●el● re●used to grant them a Lecturer whereas he refused the Paper not the Lecturer Fourt●ly But Mr. Weld fait●ful●y promised to grant the● a Lectu●●r at the ch●yc●●f the people and afterward poss●●i●el● denied to doe it pag 4 A●s Mr. Weld being again consulted with about such promise doth professe as before the Lord such a thought never came into his mind much lesse such a promise ever fell from his mouth It s infinitely far from his judgement all that know him can tell you and as far from his practice he stands amazed at their brow of brasse who dare tell such an untruth to the world against their Conscience It s true they desired of Mr. Weld liberty for one to Preach once in a m●neth and give them the Sacrament and said it should be either Mr. Prideaux Mr. Cole or Mr. Knightbridge and no other His answer was If s● they should see there should be no obstructi●ns in him but they never brought any of them to him to this day Yea we heare from credible testimony who will avouch i● that all these three men have utterly d●ni'd to accept the motion Yet these Church-Wardens ●oldly wit●out blu●hing affirme they found them wi●●i●g They bend their tongues like ●heir bow for lyes but have no courage for the tru●h ●er 9. 4. Fifthly But Mr. Weld r●f●seth to give them the Sacraments though he be the Minister of the place Ans Yea and good reason Shall ignorant pr●phane swea●ers and drunkards shall Lyers and Scorners as many of these that presse for the Sacraments are be pertakers of these holy things 1 Cor. 5. Rev. 21. 8. and 12. Mat. 15. 7. 1 Cor. 11. 28. 29. No no stand backe must not ●eremiah sepa●ate the pretious from the vile They speak of 1000. 〈◊〉 I say if there were 10000. more ●et a minister cut off his right hand rather then hold cut the h●ly Sea●es to such It s the weary burthen of his soule that so many of his people are unfit for such Priviledges Sixthly But this monopolizi●g the Sacrament● is to fill the ●●lly of Coveto●snesse and to sacrifice to the Diana of his own profit pag. 11. 1● Ans A strange paradox Would not rather the giving the Sacraments to all bring in more profit for then all his Ester B●oks worth neer 20 l. per annum would come in of which now not one penny Then would all their bounty appeare to such an Administrator nothing would be too deare for such a minister Did not one of your selves lately 〈◊〉 Mr Weld 5 l. per annum if he would doe this w●rk though he abhors such base bribery and did not all the ●est ●ay Mr. Weld upon this account should have any thing what he would desire Now were not this the way to ●hrive And yet it seem● they wanted matter to render Mr. Weld as a man seeking his profit when they cunger up an Argument so contrary to common sense And I must tell you now if he were a man that sought his own profit he would hardly have been perswaded to lay 104 l. about his House to leave it at the same day he leaves his place nor quit so quietly all his charge promised him about his settlement nor beare the losse of neer 200 l. of your subscriptions under your own hands when he know● he might so easily recover it Nor would he have taken in a Lease of his Rectory which was 80 l. per annum upon the complaint that through the fall of Corue they did lose by it and let it pre●en●ly for 56 l. per annum as upon consulting with master weld it did appear● and as Christopher Sanderson and Charles M●daleton can testifie who were his Tennants All which i● he had not consulted the peace and the progresse of the Gospel above his owne gaire he would never have done But to these men I speake as the Prophet did to Doeg Psal 52. 2. 3. 4. Thy tongue d●●iseth mischiefs like a sharpe rasor working deceitfully Thou l●vest 〈◊〉 more then good and lying rather then to speake truth Thou lovest all devouring words O thou deceitfull tongue Let such take heed of the next verse ●er 5 it prove not their portion But God shall destroy thee for ever and pluck thee out of thy dwell●ng pl●c● c. Seventhly But Mr. Weld Admin●sters the Sacraments to none of his own Parish but to eight women and two men Ans If it were so let these scorners know that ●en godly persons may weigh in the ballance against ten thousand others and ten righteous men can more prevaile with God then three Ci●ies Gen. 19. 32. Yea one Noah one Moses one Elias one Joshuab one Job are more in value then millions of s●●rners lyers and haters of Saints yea then the whole rabble world besides And dos these men then make ten godly persons such a cont●mptible number When in the Arke a Figure of Baptisme God himselfe put such a distinguishing character upon the number of eight 1 Pet. 3. 21. Secondly But doe these men speake truth or a malitious lye in saying there were but ten persons Mr. VVeld Administers unto in Gateshead whereas truth is i● there were but two more there would be twenty and yet Christ himselfe did Administer the Lords Supper but to twelve and here are eighteen even of Gateshead besides twice eighteen others But these mens tongues are their own but the Lord shall cut out the tongue that speaketh proud things Psal 12. 3. 4. Eightly But why doth not Mr. Weld Publish his grounds for his New Church pag. 11. Ans Where were your ears I marvaile when Mr. Weld before ever he would gather a Church declared at large at least in ten Sermons out of Acts 2. 41. to the end many cleere Scriptu●e grounds to prove the Congregationall way the mind of Christ Yet these men still say Why doth not Mr. Weld publish his grounds to the world It seems they were either absent from Church as too often they are or Napping as he often takes them when these truths were made knowne Ninthly But why doth Mr. Weld cast us loose Stones as pag. 18. A●s Oh that ye were but Stones though loose Stones for Gods Church is called an House and a Building and Stones though loose lying scattered here and there are yet fit matter when gathered together into one body for a building and the godly themselves till united by a holy giving up themselves to the Lord and hi● people as 2 Cor. 8. 5. are but loose Stones