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A43640 The third part of Naked truth, or, Some serious considerations, that are of high concern to the ruling clergy of England, Scotland, or any other Protestant nation and also a discovery of the excellency of the Protestant religion as it stands in opposition to papistical delusions, being a representation of what is the true glory of Protestants, and what are the base, contemptible and ridiculous principles, on which those that are called Roman Catholicks do build, as upon the sand being very necessary for all Protestant families in this present juncture of time.; Naked truth. Part 3 Hickeringill, Edmund, 1631-1708. 1681 (1681) Wing H1830; ESTC R2673 42,995 50

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of it OR doth not at least dare to Trust to it Wherefore if the said Church or the Clergy rather as the Rulers of it meerly upon these Grounds and only to these ends which are both thus evil in themselves and thus contrary to the very Grounds and Ends of our Reformation shall endeavour to Ingage the power of the Civil Magistrate to her Assistance which God forbid they should ever do any more in England for we have good ground to believe that several of the Ruling Clergy if not all do abhor it to their Praise be it spoken I humbly offer it to Consideration whether in moving this to a Prince especially as he is a Protestant she doth or can move him to any other purpose than That his Authority may promote the Defection she hath made from her own Principles and may Countenance her in that which she knoweth that the Rules of the Reformation and of Protestantism cannot viz. not only her Cruelty and Severity but her Exorbitancy And whether she hath or can have any Argument to the said Prince for his Countenancing of her greater than this viz Than as she knoweth that all the evil which would be charged upon HER wholly and ONLY as a Church may now through his countenancing of her be in part as well charged upon his Royal Authority and Pleasure as upon her Which Argument being really of no better a nature than this whether it be therefore reasonable in it self or whether it be so much as fit or modest for the said Church to make or whether it be agreeable to that Duty Honor and Sincerity which she as a Church professeth to owe and ought at all times uprightly to pay to her Prince I humbly leave and submit to the Judgments of all Ingenious Persons and especially when with reference to the Effect of this Motion it is matter of Fact that though twenty six private Persons would be thereby gratified some of whom are men of no Birth Interest or temporal Estate in the Nation and more than twice so many thousands are greatly grieved injured and wronged in their Persons and Estates which are equally his Majesties Subjects as well as they And many of which are every way Peers to them for Birth for Vertue for Loyalty for Temperance for Morality for Mercy for Charity for temporal Estates and even for Learning also And here it will be necessary in the next place to consider again what it is in these respects that we blame the Church of Rome for I mean What the Guilt of the Church of Rome is For either Guilt is a thing of Weight before God or it is not And either the Guilt which hath been charged upon the Church of Rome by reason of her Persecution by our Reformers first and by many worthy Men of the Church of England since is justly charged upon her or it is not But if that Guilt be Real and that it is justly charged upon the said Church It is apparently Criminal two ways First as she through her Persecution is the cause of all that Hypocrisie Dissimulation and Apostacy which men commit for meer fear of her and by which though out of weakness they do greatly wrong their own Conscience and greatly injure their former Profession before God and know they do so and lye oft-times under trouble of Conscience all their lives afterward for it And secondly she is equally guilty as she is the cause by reason of her Persecution of the Sufferings Distresses and great Afflictions which many particular Persons and many Families groan under by which she occasions many solemn Complaints Cries and Appeals to be made unto God which men who are conscious to themselves of their Sincerity towards God did pour out to him as the Righteous Judge of all persons And if this be The Guilt of the Church of Rome and if we as Protestants when we write against the Church of Rome do say that all the Righteous Prayers Appeals and Complaints to God against her shall be heard And that she shall answer as well for the Crimes of others as for the Oppressions and Wrongs that she hath done to others What then can be said when a Protestant Church or the Clergy rather who are the Rulers of it shall be guilty of the same manner of Persecution and upon the very same unjust or upon more unjust Grounds or Principles that the Popish Clergy are and when by the means of this Persecution the said Protestant Clergy are the occasion of many mens Hypocrisie Dissimulation and Desertion of their Principles through weakness to the extreme injury and wrong of their Consciences and are the express Cause of the Sighs Sufferings Groans and Complaints of divers others that are poured out in the very bitterness of their Souls unto God and when the said Protestant Church or the Ruling Clergy rather of it shall have no sence at all of the evil of any of these things nor seem to be in the least moved or concerned for them These things being considered the Question is whether any man that is rational can draw any other Conclusion from them but that The said Protestant Church or the Ruling Clergy of it do not believe themselves at all when they write against the Papists for these things and that notwithstanding they do threaten the Church of Rome with the Judgments of God because of their Cruelty and of their Persecutions of men for their Conscience sake yet they do indeed but laugh in their sleeves at it and do not believe any such thing as that the direful Judgments of God shall come upon any either for Cruelty or for Persecution of others for Conscience sake or for being the occasions of many mens sinning against and wounding of their own Consciences but that when they speak of the Judgments of God they speak of them but as Scare-Crows Bug-bears or Pot-Guns For would it not be an uncharitable thing or rather is it not an incredible thing for any man to think that the Protestant Clergy should do the very same things which they expresly declare and acknowledge to be heinous Offences and Crimes against God in their Adversaries the Church of Rome if they did really believe themselves in what they usually write when they threaten them with the Judgments of God upon them for the said things If to avoid this which they perhaps may look upon as some imputation or reflection upon them the said Protestant Church or rather the Ruling Clergy of it shall deny the Case to be the same and shall say that the Grounds or Principles upon which they persecute men are much different from those of the Papists or Church of Rome Let them I mean the Ruling Clergy lay down the State of it and shew us wherein the greatness of the said difference doth consist For if the Fact for which men are punished by the said Protestant Clergy be the very same or of the same nature with that for which the
Popish Clergy do punish men viz. for their worshipping God and for their worshipping of him not contrary to the Scripture or contrary to any thing that seems clearly and plainly their Duty in the Word of God but contrary only to some Order or other in the Church And if the quality of the Persons that do suffer and that are punished by the Protestant Clergy are the same also with those that are punished by the Popish Clergy that is such men as are neither blameable in Nor so much as accused or charged by them with or for any Crime Or any Immorality in their Lives and Conversations But such as otherwise demean themselves in all Duty and with all Subjection to their Superiors I say if both these are the very SAME one with another wherein doth the Essential Difference lye between the Persecution of the Popish Clergy and the Persecution of the Protestant Clergy unless it be strictly in this That the Protestant Clergy do pretend to believe the Scriptures to be the Supreme Rule and mind of God to his Church and if asked do freely grant That men are NOT bound in Conscience to any Rule Superior to this Nor can be bound in the things of Faith or in things relating to the Worship of God to any Rule above this And yet at the same time that they own this they persecute their Brethren not only in their Liberties but in their Goods Fortunes and Estates and sometimes in their Lives also through nasty Prisons and want of Conveniences for acknowledging the said Scriptures to be such as they themselves do own them to be and for that they accordingly conform to their own Principles Whereas The Popish Clergy though they persecute men for the same Crimes yet they do not give so much Honour to the Scriptures nor do so much as pretend to it But which of these two Are for this very Cause the greater Crimes before God may be left to all rational men to consider In the mean time I am most sure of this That whereas our first Reformers did call the Church of Rome Antichristian and did charge her with Innocent Blood and did put the name of Scarlet-Whore for this Reason upon her Yet now it is most certain the Stain and Discredit of it is in her eyes manifestly lessened if it be not wholly bletted out For it is impossible that the Church of Rome should ever hereafter grant these things to be Stains or Crimes proper only to her which she doth not only see but can daily observe some Protestant Church or other to follow her in upon such Grounds as are far less justifiable in the said Protestant Church according to the Principles they profess than they are in her self And that this is not a thing ever to be hoped or expected from her hereafter is the more clear in regard the said Church of Rome hath already in so many words sharply and closely Retorted it upon the Protestant Church So that the VERY things which we blame the said Church of Rome for and for which we accuse her Criminally And which we pretend to be the main Grounds why we could no longer have any Communion with her which was her laying aside the sole Authority of the Scriptures And her persecuting such as desired to walk according to the Rule of it some Protestant Churches have not only imitated her in but have outgone her and have done so much worse than she ever did by how much we have contradicted the Principles we profess which she hath not And that she hath cast this as a Reproach upon us in words and hath alledged several Arguments to confirm it and such as have not to this very day been answered by us is matter of Fact And if in all Courts of Judicature matter of Fact be good Evidence and if the highest Evidence that can be given in matter of Fact is when the Fact is able to speak and attest it self or when it is capable to be attested to by thousands then is the Evidence which I here bring every way as good and every way as vallid to prove what I affirm Which is That the Church of Rome hath endeavoured to justifie and acquit her self from the Crime of unjust Persecution and Blood by instancing the same thing in the Practice of Protestants one toward another and therein hath exonerated her self from the sole Guilt of this evil and from the sole Guilt of her being alone that Babylon mentioned Rev. 17. which hath been frequently fixed singly upon her and attributed to none besides her And she hath produced several Arguments also and those of Weight to make it appear That Protestants In their Persecution one of another are far more unjust upon the Principles we profess as Protestants than she is upon her own Principles how much so ever we have pleased to inveigh against her and revile her And these Arguments she hath no way scrupled publickly and openly to divulge in English to the end that every man that is rational may the better examine them and judge of them And that we have not as yet pleaded to the said Arguments Or to the Retortion she hath made upon us either by denying the Fact it self absolutely or by distinguishing the respective differing Circumstances and Grounds of it is also well known Whereby she hath the more just occasion to think that those Protestants that have thus persecuted others are conscious to themselves of their own Guilt And seeing all this is pure matter of Fact one of these two Conclusions therefore do seem to be impossible to be avoided viz. That either we have done very evil in charging the Church of Rome as Antichristian and in charging her as guilty of the Blood of the Saints which is mentioned Rev. 17.6 which must nevertheless be inevitably charged some where and very evil to impose the name of Scarlet-Whore and of Babylon upon her Or If the Protestant Churches have said all this really in Judgment and really in Truth against her Then have some Protestant Churches done much worse themselves in being actually guilty of the same things which have been so criminally charged upon her And if the Church of Rome be guilty of Innocent Blood then none that is sober can doubt but she must at length be lyable to the extreme Judgments of God for it And therefore if any Protestant Churches have followed her in that very Guilt the same judgments must as unquestionably come upon them and perhaps more severe And to the end that all Protestant Churches may be awakened to consider their great Danger in this Case if they have been Persecutors of their Brethren I need do no more than to lay before them the express Prophesie of our Lord Jesus Christ in this Case viz. That there should be some who delaying in their hearts the Consideration of his coming should instead of giving a portion of Meat to their fellow-Servants be found smiting of them The
Heart smote him And some things he was about to do for the prevention of which he gave solemn thanks to God For we find that Davids Heart smote him after he had numbered the people and after he had but cut off the Skirt of Sauls Garment 2 Sam. 24.10 and 1 Sam. 24.5 And he gives solemn Thanks for Abigails being an Instrument to prevent him from shedding Blood 1 Sam. 25.32 For if the Church of Rome do punish others really and indeed upon the Principle of Disobeying her Authority though she dare not pretend this openly lest her Cruelty and Blood-Guiltiness being for no other Cause should be so manifest that it would never be able to admit of a competent Apology Colour or Excuse And therefore leaving this she insists upon the Ground of Her Persecution as it is for Herefie only But if we on the other hand punish others not only with loss of Goods but with loss of Liberty Banishment and perpetual Imprisonment which is far more Cruelty than Immediate Death it self and would be more willingly chosen by most men and do all this for a Non-conformity and Disobedience to the Orders and Rites of the Church without so much as a pretence to any Guilt of Heresie Then Where is the difference between these two sorts of Persecutors unless the Ruling Clergy of our Church have done it more daringly and more Broad-facedly than the Church of Rome doth But which is more to be considered and laid to heart If the Church of Rome do not punish those that acknowledge her to be a True Church but those only that condemn her as a false Church and who do under this Notion professedly separate from her as from that Babylon mentioned in the Revelations And if we on the other hand punish those that own not only the same Faith and Doctrine But the very same Principles of Reformation with our selves and who therefore give no just Provocation nor use any such reproachful Language to our Church as the Protestant Churches generally do to the Church of Rome Where then is the difference unless it be that she renders evil to her professed Enemies who cannot but openly own a Hatred and Contempt for her We inflict all manner of Evil upon our Brethren that supplicate for Peace with us and would be glad not to separate from us and which of these two then is the more ingenious But which is yet more If we as we are Protestants cannot but grant that there is to be a Subordination of the Church not only immediately to the Lord Jesus Christ himself but to HIS Word and that we utterly deny that he hath any such One as a Vicar upon the Earth and utterly deny that any man whatever hath any power to dispence with the Commands of our Lord Jesus Christ so far as they appear to be clear to us from his Word wherefore if we notwithstanding we make these things to be the very Profession of our Faith yet shall never punish any But such as keep exactly to all and every of these Principles and shall observe them conscientiously and strictly Whereas the Popish Clergy on the contrary punish none but such only who deny or oppose wholly the things which their Church affirms Where then is the Reasonableness of our Punishment and the Unreasonableness of theirs and which of these two hath the greater Resemblance of Hypocrisie even in our own Judgment whether our Punishment or theirs seeing we punish men for following the Principles we allow They never punish any but for following those Principles that they totally disallow But the evil of this Persecution further appears thus for if we as Protestants say we have separated from the Church of Rome out of Conscience First because she imposed those things that were Inscriptural upon us And secondly because she was guilty of Blood and that the Characters of a false Church did for both these Reasons lye upon her and therefore that we cannot but give thanks solemnly unto God for our Deliverance out of her power And if the Ruling Clergy of a Protestant Church have nevertheless not spared to persecute unto Blood even those that have not only out of the same two Motives separated with us But by persisting constantly in the said Motives do daily justifie us How comes our Blood and Persecution to be less sinful than hers and why should it be less crying unto God for had we never so intently studied how we might have put the greatest stumbling-Block we could before our Adversaries or how we might have brought the greatest Blemish Scandal and Reproach that was possible upon our Reformation or how we might have opened the Complaints and Exclamations of men most against us What Course could possibly have been taken to all these ends that could have been more effectual than this For how can he that is thus persecuted by the Ruling Clergy of a Protestant Church give Thanks unto God solemnly for his Deliverance out of the Church of Rome's Thraldom when the very same Persons that pretend to be delivered with him Imposeth nevertheless the like Thraldom upon him Or how shall he that is thus persecuted be any way able to imagine and much less to believe that the Church which persecutes him is serious in her Profession of Thanks unto God for her own freedom when she is no sooner freed her self but she brings others into the same Hardship and Servitude that she her self did but a little while since greatly complain of and groan under But leaving these things to be most seriously considered by all Protestant Churches in these three Kingdoms and elsewhere even by all whomsoever they Concern I shall now proceed to give in this place A Description of the Absurd Ridiculous and Contemptible Grounds and Foundations on which the Papists Build Though nothing is more Evident than this that the Thraldom or Bondage of the Church of Rome doth principally consist in the disagreeableness of her Doctrines to the Rule of the Scripture yet nevertheless it is Matter of Fact That the Church of Rome doth not in plain and express Terms deny the Truth or deny the Authority of the Scripture or deny the end of them as they are appointed for the Church And if we cannot for this Cause justly charge her with any of these things Then we must necessarily grant that the said Doctrines so far as they are corrupt and have a real Inconsistency with the Scripture it self could have their Rise at first no otherwise Than by vertue of her Authority as a Church And consequently that as they had thus their Rise at first so they have had their whole Maintenance and Support ever since no otherwise than as this Authority being Absolute and Arbitrary hath defended them against whatever might be said from the Authority of the Scripture in opposition to them And therefore here we shall lay open her Shame and Nakedness and her great Absurdity that lyeth in the Manner and Method and
Nature of her Policy For the Acquiring of that Arbitrary Absolute and unlimited Power which she exerciseth And first we find that she doth upon her own Authority affirm That it is neither the Letter of the Scripture nor the Grammar of it how Plain Clear or Express soever it be that doth or ought to bind the Consciences of men but the sence of the said Scripture only And Secondly she doth affirm That it is not the sence of the Scripture also which doth or can any way directly bind the Consciences of men if this sence be considered nakedly in it self either as literal or mystical but that the said sence is capable of binding only considered as it is Catholick And Thirdly That it is not either in the Letter or in the Grammar of the said Scripture how clear or plain soever it be that the Divine Authority of it is placed but simply and only in the sence of it as this sence is the sence of the Universal Church and therefore that sence which is properly called Catholick Which Propositions she having in her Prudence thus peculiarly laid down as the Grounds or Foundations not only of all Christian Faith but of all Christian Verity and Truth it self In the next place she builds upon these unsound Grounds an Assumption that is parallel to them and that is every way as entirely her own as the former viz. That she alone hath not only the Right as exclusive to all others of Dispencing this Catholick Sence to all the Members of the Christian Church but of dispencing it in order to their Salvation and hath inherent in her the full and absolute Power finally and Inappealeably to determine at all times and upon all Occasions what the said Catholick Sence is concerning all Points whatever that may be controverted and concerning all places of Scripture whatever that may be doubted of or disputed And that as this Power is absolutely necessary for the Preservation of the Unity so for the Preservation of the Purity of the said Christian Faith in regard it is impossible that such a Sence of the Scripture as is wholly Universal and Catholick should at any time Err. The Conclusion then if all these Premises be true is That the Church of Rome is to be believed and that all her Determinations whatever they be are for Conscience sake to be Obeyed and Submitted unto even by the whole Christian Church without any Dispute or without so much as any scruple of Mind This Conclusion being that which all the Partizans and Champions of the Church of Rome do labour with Might and Main to bring every man to and therefore it is the same with that Security and Rest which they pretend all men may have not only with absolute Safety but with absolute satisfaction in the Bosom of their Church But indeed this Conclusion hath not any tendency to Salvation at all but is quite contrary to all that is alledged and leads expresly to nothing else but to the utter Overthrow and Subversion of the whole Scripture it self with the Mind Law Will and Counsel of God so far at least as depends upon Revelation in regard it puts the Scripture together with the whole Authority of it though Divine in it self absolutely perfectly and entirely into the Arbitrary Will and Power of the said Church And therefore the Protestants upon Consideration of the extreme Mischiefs that must of necessity follow from such a Conclusion as this they do with Indignation reject it And First The Protestants do wholly deny that the said Church of Rome hath any rightful Authority to make null the Grammar of the Scripture Secondly The Protestants do much more deny that she hath any Right to institute or set up such a Sence of the Scripture under any name or pretence whatever that is either opposite to the Grammar of the Scripture or that at least pretends that there is not a necessity to follow and observe the Rules of it Thirdly Consequently they utterly deny that she hath any Right to transfer the Authority of the Scripture from the Sence proper to the Letter of it self to such a Sence as is only and properly hers And Fourthly They deny that she hath any Right or any Power to set up any Sence of her own at all which is not absolutely subjected to the Rule and Authority that is inherent to the Scriptures Letter and Word with the proper Sence of it as this is and ought to be Supreme to all others Fifthly And they do much less acknowledge that she hath any such Right in her or derived to her therefore as to make her Sence of the Scripture or what she declares to be so the Sence of the Universal Church Sixthly Or that she hath any Right to make her sence of the Scripture to be the Absolute or Supreme Rule of all Infallible and Christian Truth or to disallow any Appeal from her proper Determinations to the living Rule of the Scriptures Grammar and to the Letter or Word of it Seventhly And the Protestants denying all these things they do deny therefore that she hath any Authority Power or Right to dispence with That Duty and Obligation which is divinely and absolutely laid upon the Consciences of men which is To obey the Word of God in the litteral plain and express Sence of it Eighthly And the Protestants do deny consequently that the Consciences of men are or can any way possibly be obliged to her bare Determination of the Sence of the Scripture Especially so far as this is set up absolutely by her and is not dependant upon any Sence proper to the Words and Grammar of the Scripture it self All and every of which Powers as the Protestant Church doth wholly deny to the Church of Rome So for as much as the Church of Rome can pretend to no one of the said Rights or Authorities now mentioned otherwise than as it must by some means or other be lawfully conveyed or derived to her The Protestant Church therefore challengeth her and provoketh her to shew that special and peculiar Commission by which SHE and SHE alone is impowered to do all or any of those things before named Because without this Commission can be produced and produced upon some Clear Evident and Sufficient Warrant or Ground for it All Her pretences to the said Authority seeing it is so manifestly destructive to the Scripture it self must needs appear to be not only Precarious but very frivolous and very absurd The Church of Rome being thus challenged and provoked in the point of her Commission and yet well knowing that there is nothing which she can possibly appeal unto for the proof of her Authority beside the Scripture it self She becomes hereupon to be several ways distressed and perplexed First because she finds that she cannot allow of the Grammatical Sence of the Scripture in any one Case whatever But she must necessarily and unavoidably allow it in all other Cases also where it may
he presumeth the Church also to be a thing altogether Holy and such as neither hath Erred nor can Err for should he question this he must question the whole of his Religion it self opposite to which Character we shall now consider The Character of a Protestant But the Protestant Church on the other hand having separated from the Church of Rome not only upon the Supposition that she hath actually Erred but that she hath been grosly corrupted as well in Manners as in Faith And the Protestant Church having for the better Justification of her own Practice both in the matter of Worship and in all things relating to Doctrine and Faith SET UP The Scriptures as the Sole and Soveraign Rule of Gods Mind and Will to his Church As she cannot challenge the Exercise of any Authority therefore that is beyond that of the Scripture or any that is not subordinate to the said Scripture it self So it is expected that all the Duties which she requires and all those Articles or Points of Faith which she at any time recommends to such as are the Members of her should always be enforced from those Arguments properly and only which are drawn from the Scripture Because it is this which she her self hath appealed unto and this only which she challengeth to justifie her A Protestant then that understands the Grounds of his Religion or that hath been at all instructed in the Rise or Principles of the Reformation taking this for the very first Article of his Faith That a Church may Err and may have Corruption in it and may in its Worship possibly swerve and depart from the pure Mind Word and Wisdom of God And laying that no less firmly as the Foundation of his Belief on the other hand viz. That the Scripture cannot Err nor can be other than the unalterable and incorruptible Rule of Gods Law and of his Will and Mind to his People he cannot possibly hold the Authority of the Church to be Divine any further or otherwise than as it appears to be clearly grounded upon the Scriptures as the Word of God And therefore the Tye or Obligation which he hath to obey the Church so far as it relates to the Conscience and binds the Conscience ariseth out of no other Ground than from the Conformity which he seeth or is perswaded that the said Church hath in her Laws Orders and Doctrines to the said Word and if this Conformity doth or shall once cease in the said Church a Protestant as a Protestant cannot but judge his Tye or Obligation to her as a Church ought to cease also with it And this being the true State of that Radical or Essential Difference that is between the Principles of a Protestant and the Principles of a Papist as a Papist It will hence follow That if a Church that professeth her self to be Protestant or the Ruling Clergy of a Protestant Church shall not much consider or regard the justifying of what Laws and Orders she makes by the Consonancy they expresly have to the Law or Mind of God in his Word which is his Rule to the Church nor shall much concern it self to clear and inforce the Faith and Doctrine which she holds by the Evidence of its Truth or by the Authority of it as sufficiently grounded upon that Word that is absolutely Divine But shall on the contrary in whatever she Commands or in the things she Teacheth constrain or exact an Obedience from her Members to her self and to her own Authority as absolute and as unsubordinate to the Word of God and therefore to her Authority as it is a distinct thing from the said Word That Church or the Clergy rather that are the Rulers of it so far as she doth this in any Doctrine or in any Law that she makes indispensable doth so far cease in her Principles and Practice to be Protestant and doth so far disclaim not only a main and chief Ground of her Separation from the Church of Rome but the very Principle it self upon which she pretends to guide her self in her Reformation For it cannot be denyed that these were the great and the main Causes of our Separation from the Church of Rome viz. First Because she had made her self Absolute and had set up an Authority in the matters of Worship and Faith above that of the Scriptures as the only Word of God And Secondly Because she did not barely excommunicate men but did also persecute them and did deprive them both of their Estates Liberties and Lives upon a Principle as contrary to humane Reason as it was contrary to humane Society and Quiet viz. not for any evil in their Conversations in their Morals or in their Lives But meerly for obeying what they sincerely judged to be the Law Mind and Will of God And meerly for believing that his whole Law Will and Mind to his Church as a Church especially relating to the Worship of himself was contained in his Word Thirdly Because by this persecution as it was extended to the extreme Punishment of Persons both in their Liberties and Goods and sometimes in their Lives by stinking Prisons and want of Necessaries she did unavoidably draw upon her self the Guilt of mens Apostacy Hypocrsie and Dissimulation who durst not but obey and comply with her Commands meerly out of fear And did as unavoidably draw upon her the Guilt of all that Suffering Cruelty and Blood whatever it were she spilt and did inflict upon those persons who withstood her Commands and who were otherwise in all things blameless both as to their Morals Lives and Conversations I say if it be matter of Fact and that which cannot be denyed that these three things were some of the Main and Principal Causes for which we separated from the Church of Rome and for which our first Reformers themselves called her Antichristian and sometimes Bloody and sometimes the Scarlet Whore And if these three things when at any time mentioned with reference to the Church of Rome are still acknowledged to be evil and so stiled to this day so far as it concerns her Yea if these three things are at this very present in our Controversies with that Church not only charged upon her but cast in her teeth among many other things by way of reproach and to set forth the just ground that we even as the Church of England as well as other Churches have both of exception against and hatred of her MUST NOT these three things be MUCH MORE EVIL in a Protestant Church who after she hath condemned all these things not only as evil but as Antichristian in the Church of Rome and after she hath pretended to separate from the said Church for them doth nevertheless give her self leave to practise them without condemning her self at all in them And MUST NOT This Practice cast a manifest Blemish and Reproach upon on her own Reformation and evidence to the world that she doth not either believe the Principles