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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A26759	The utter routing of the whole army of all the Independents and Sectaries, with the totall overthrow of their hierarchy ..., or, Independency not Gods ordinance in which all the frontires of the Presbytery ... are defended ... / by John Bastvvick, captain in the Presbyterian army.	Bastwick, John, 1593-1654.	1646 (1646)	Wing B1072; ESTC R10739	685,011	796

of the Saints and that by vertue of their beleeving Repentance and Baptism as the Scripture relateth Here is nothing recorded of walking any time for they were suddenly admitted here is nothing of a publike conf●ssion of their faith nothing of bringing in the evidences of their conversion nothing of an explicite particular Covenant not a word of the consent of the people And yet this was the first formed Church after the New Testament Forme by all which it doth sufficiently appear that all the practice and prattle of the new gathered Churches hath neither precept nor president for it in the Mother Church But it is not amisse to produce an example or two more omitting many through the Acts. In the fifth chapter upon the sudden and miraculous death of Ananias Saphira and through the other wonders and miracles that were wrought it is said that beleevers were the more added unto the Lord multitudes both of men and women that is to say many more Congregations and Assemblies of beleevers were added to the Lord and admitted to be Members of that Church And all these also were admitted to be Members by the Apostles sole authority and that as soon as they offered themselves to be entertained without any of those conditions they now require in their new gathered Churches And yet let me tell the Independents by the way that at this time also the Apostles and Disciples might have challenged a right to have propounded those conditions if they might at any time have been urged upon the people for they might have suspected that this suddain conversion proceeded more from the miracles then from any sound conviction of them from the conscience of their sinne And therefore they might have urged that it was now very fit that they should propound some other conditions of admission then they had formerly imposed upon them and that it was requisite and convenient that they should now walk sometime in church-fellowship with them that they might have more better assurance of their real and true conversion and that they ought therefore before their admission be urged to make all and every one of them a particular confession of their faith and bring in the evidences of their conversion and enter into a particular explicite Covenant for the better preserving of Church Communion especially they seeing now before their eyes a president of so grosse hypocrisie and false dealing in Ananias and Saphira and what a consternation came upon the whole church by it and by the which also God was so much displeased therefore I say in all these regards they might then with very good reason if at any time have urged all those conditions and withall they might well have added that they should not be admitted without the consent of the whole church of all which when there is no mention it is abundantly evident that they were received into church communion without them and that by the sole authority of the Apo●tl●s which is left for a rule for all other churches to the end of the World of admitting Members after the same manner which when the Independents in all their new gathered churches dayly swarve from in their admission of Members they are in their so doing prevaricators both against the precept of Christ the King of his church and against the example of the blessed Apostles and against the example of the church at Ierusalem which was the first formed church after the New Testament Forme by which practice of theirs they make themselves offenders in an elevated nature Now I will adde one example more of ordinary admission of Members and that in the same Church chap. 6. it is said verse 7. that the Word of God increased and the number of Disciples multiplyed in Jerusalem greatly and a great company of the Priests were obedient to the faith All these also were by the Apostles sole authority admitted Members of that Church And here likewise the Apostles and Disciples might upon very good ground have urged the imposing of new conditions of admitting Members if they might at any time have done it in regard of those Pri●sts for they were notoriously knowne to have beene Christs enemies in his life and death and ●ad a great stroke in his crucifying and therefore if the Disciples were affraid of Paul as it is rel●ted in the ninth chapter because hee had persecuted the Church and in that regard were unwilling that hee should be a joynt Member with them they had very good warrant here of being affraid of this great company of Priests and might therefore have desired that they might not bee admitted Members into Church-fellowship till they had walked some time with them that they might have some testimonies of their true conversion and that they might also for the satisfying of the whole Church every one of them make a particular confession of their faith and bring in the evidences of their conversion and enter into a particular explicite Covenant and be received in by the consent of the whole church all these things I say they might have urged with great authority and have beene as well affraid of these Priests as they were of Paul Now in that the Apostles admitted here of all those Priests as they did of Paul Acts 9. by their sole authority and without their either walking with them in Fellowship some time or without a publicke confession of their faith or bringing in their evidences of their conversion or without a particular explicite Covenant or without the consent of the people I say in all these regards it is manifest to all such as will not put out their owne eyes that all the Independents that impose other Lawes upon the people in their admission of Members into Church-fellowship with them are Trangr●ssors in a high degree against both the command and example of Christ who admitted of all that came to him and refused none and against the example of all the holy Apostles and against the practice of the Mother Church and the first formed Church after the New Testament Form and therefore I will be bold to say thus much That all those Ministers and people of the Congregational by-path that shall notwithstanding all that I have now set before them out of the good Word of God still persist in their unwarrantable practices against both the prec●p● and president of Christ the King of his Church and of all his bl●ss●d Apostles they will be found fighters against God and i● they do not all of them that have had their hand in these unwarrantable proceedings speedily repent and relinguish th●se the●● r●bellious courses they will highly provoke the Lord King of his Church to come out in wrath and indignation against them And who knows but as he let the devil loose upon the sons of Sceva those exorcists for abusing his Authority and using his N●m● for all their wicked dealings I say who knows but the righteous and just God may in

despise Dominion and speake evill of Dignities hee cals them raging waves of the Sea foming out their owne shame wandring stars to whom is reserved the blacknesse of darkenesse for ever against whom he saith the Lord will execute judgement for all their ungodly deeds and for all their hard speeches stiling them Murmurers complayners whose mouths speak great swelling words having mens persons in admiration because of advantage desiring all men to remember the words of the Holy Apostles and of our Lord Jesus Christ who fore-told the people of God that there should be such Mockers in the last times who should walke after their ungodly lusts and that they might the better take notice of them and know who these men both Christ and the Apostles spake of he saith they were such as should separate themselves sensuall not having the spirit he describes them to be an unsanctified race of men whatsoever seeming holinesse they make a shew of and such as ought to be avoyded and shunned of all such as desire to please God and avoyd that condemnation that was denounced against all such as despised dignities and resisted authority and even as the Lord by his servants commanded the people to separate from the company of Corah Dathan and Abiram and to goe from their tents lest they were involved in the same miseries and calamities that were coming upon them for their rebellion against Moses so ought all the people that indeed do truly fear God decline the companies and societies of all such as now oppose authority and make themselves the soveraign Lords of the Kings and Rulers and Judges that God hath appointed over them for surely a greater unrighteousnesse cannot be perpetrated against God then thus superciliously to trample upon authority and to despise those that are over them which is the dayly practice of the Independents and Sectaries all which unrighteousnesse the old Puritans of England were not guilty of having been better taught and therefore in this part of duty the Independents are different from the old Puritans of England who walked not in this way of unrighteousnesse and therefore the Sactaries have not out-stripped them in this point of obedience to authority but they are indeed overgrown and are become monstrous in their rebellious practices Yea so far they are from reverencing those in authority as they are grown to that height of pride and unrighteousnesse as many of them will not so much as pray for the very Parliament or the Assembly either privately or publickly as can sufficiently be proved by such as are acquainted with them and their practices for not long since in a great Assembly and Congregation of Independents one of their Predicants being in prayer after he had put up many petitions and requests in behalfe of their fraternity thus expressed himself speaking unto God Now Lord saith he we should come to pray for the Parliament and Assembly but they are not worthy the prayers of the Saints and so with disdain he passed them by as unworthy of their prayers then the which what could be spake more wickedly and contrary to the practice of all the old Puritans of England who in all their prayers and supplications private and publick ever with tears prayed for all in authority I affirme that this practice of the Independents is not onely one of the highest strains of all unrighteousnesse and contrary to the practice of all the old Puritans of England but contrary to all the practice of all the Saints that ever yet lived in the world and contrary to all the commands of God both in the Old and New Testament For we have read how earnestly Moses prayed for the rebellious Israelites wishing himselfe rather to be blotted out of the book of life then that the Lord should destroy them and so did Paul wish for his Countrymen the Jews Samuel also when the people desired him to pray for them 1 Sam. 12. v. 23. God forbid saith he that I should sin against the Lord in ceasing to pray for you c. So that the holy Prophet makes it a sin in either Ministers or people not to pray for their brethren and especially those in authority for this was the practice of all the Prophets the Lord told a heathen King that Abraham his servant should pray for him yea father Abraham prayed for the very Sodomites and the Kingdoms in which they dwelt Gen. 18. And the people of Israel when they were in captivity in Babylon had a command from God himselfe to pray for the welfare of very Babylon and the Princes of the same and we have read what supplications Daniel Ezra and Nehemiah put up in behalfe of those heathen Princes under which they lived as well as for their own Countrymen And Saint Paul gives it in charge to all Ministers and people 1 Tim. 2. to pray for all men ver 1 2. I exhort saith he that first of all supplications prayers and intercessions and giving of thanks be made for all men For Kings and all that are in authority that we may lead a peaceable and quiet life in all godlinesse and honesty For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour So that here there is not onely an exhortation to all Christians in generall but in speciall to Ministers to pray for all men but primarily for those in authority and reasons grounds are also given by the Apostle of incouragement to this duty viz. because that it is a good and acceptable thing in the sight of God tending also for the peace quiet and tranquillity of them all and which is more to all godlinesse which is the glory of all peace and therefore that they ought to pray for those in authority And this exhortation of the Apostle all the old Puritans of England did ever most diligently observe and follow praying for them that were in authority night and day whereas the Sectaries were never in private heard pray for either King or Parliament or the Scots or Assembly How wicked a thing therefore is it in the Independents and Sectaries and what a part of unrighteousnesse is it in them dayly to omit this duty who will neither pray with their brethren nor for them but separate from all their societies as from a people unholy yea how impious and rebellious a thing is it in them against both God and all authority to say and that in a disdainfull manner even in their publike meeting places and congregations that neither the Parliament nor Assembly are worthy their prayers yea it is well known and can be proved that they pray against them and the King himselfe and that not onely privately but in their congregations publikely Surely if either the Parliament or Assembly or the Presbyterians were as bad as the Kings of Babylon or the persecuting Jews yet they ought to be prayed for For we have a command to pray for all men yea for our enemies and those that persecute us and

nothing ●ut Peacocks Parrets and Jackanapes or more mischievous things though gayly set forth with the which he befooles himself and amases yea deceives the poor and ignorant people whiles they go gazing after them For saith he We distinguish between authority and jurisdiction on the one hand and power and interest on the other and this latter belongs unto the people the other is proper to the officers c. But before I come to my answer I must tell I. S. that from whom soever he hath borrowed this distinction it is groundlesse and has no Warrant for it in sacred writ yea I hope to make it good that it is contrary unto it and therefore it was well said by a learned Professor of Divinity in the University of Oxford that it was an easie thing to finde distinctions in schoolmen to mocke God and destroy their own souls and thereupon exhorted all his Scollers to be very carefull lest out of respect to mens persons and from the conceipt they had of their piety and abilities in learning they were not deceived And the same exhortation may now in these our dayes be of very good use especially when a lying spirit is gone out into innumerable false Prophets as it did in Ahab his time and when a spirit of error is gone out into the world and is to be found in every house of the Independents in all these regards I say the caveat and exhortation of that reverend Divine may now be very usefull and serviceable for these our times And therefore it stands all men upon to prove and examine all things according to the Apostles rule 1 Thess 5. ver 21 and hold fast that which is good Now in Divine matters and in the matters of our God we must be especially careful that we see a ground warrant out of his word or from excellent reason or good consequences deduced from thence for whatsoever opinion or distinction in sacred things shall be brought and propounded unto us and if it have not its authority or ground from thence or some example or president or sollid reason or good consequence out of the same word to warrant and confirm it it is to be rejected by all good Christians especially if it consist of captious doubtful and ambiguous expressions and which will admit of various and different interpretations and to all the rest be found contrary to the word of God as this grollish distinction brought by I. S. doth for he makes a distinction between authority and jurisdiction on the one hand and power and interest on the other as if there were some vast difference between them when all learned men know that authority jurisdiction and power are all one as when a Magistrate making use of either of these words says such an one is under my authority or jurisdiction or power all men know that either of those words signifies his authority over him and those expressions intimate one the same thing But as for the word interest which he makes a Synonima with power it is a meer grollery for that is a word of ambiguity and of various significations and admits of divers interpretations and therefore cannot be the same with power the meaning of the which I am confident that I. S. himselfe knoweth not but this word serves the turne of our American brethren and those of the Congregationall way here to juggle withall But if a man would but seriously consider and weigh what the meaning of this word interest signifieth in their dialect and what they understand by it if they would speak out they shall finde that by that distinction of power and interest in the people by interest they mean and understand a title or right or due in the people both to the property and possession of all the power in Church and State and beleeve that it is originally and radically in the people and that it is properly their due and right and from them onely delegated to the officers of Church and State whom as they do betrust with it so they may at pleasure take it from them again and this that I now say the Pamphlets of these times many of them can witnesse is their meaning by interest amongst others that of Englands birth right and John Lilburns learned Letter who in the 14 Page of the same hath these words For my part saith he I looke upon the House of Commons as the supreme power of England who have residing in them that power that is inherent in the people who yet are not to act according to their owne wils and pleasures but according to the constitutions and customes of the Land c. out of whose words it is apparently evident that they make all power to be inherently in the people as their birth-right to which they may at any time make as good title and claime as to their inheritance and that they in their language call interest this also can be proved out of many of the Independents Pamplets and from their words that if they conceive the Parliament use not that power they are intrusted with according to the constitutions and customes of the land they may at any time by the people be devested of it or at least questioned I am confident I say there would be no great difficulty to prove as much as I now say has beene uttered by the Sectaries of these our times and I am most assured if they increase but to a little greater number that unlesse the Lord shew his mighty power in preserving the Parliament if they should in the least displease them and not humour them to their content they would put that in execution and really act what now they but mutter in corners and set forth in libellous Pamphlets and in warning peeces as in Londons late Warning-peece so that this truth is very wel knowne that by power and interest in the Independents language which they place in the people and not in the officers they meane the soveraigne and supreme authority and all say that it is their peculiar birth-right and that they are the Parliament and Iudges and that the officers are but their servants either to prepare matters for their hearing or for executing of what they would have them to doe and that whatsoever they speake of authority and jurisdiction in the officers it is onely to please them a little by putting a rattle into their hand that may looke gayly and make a little noyse but have no strength in it for they keepe all power in their owne hands and this I hope to make good out of I. S. his distinction and that to the dishonour of God himselfe as well as to the overthrowing of all authority in time through the world and therefore this distinction must necessarily be against the word of God But that my charge against I. S. and those of his party for hee writeth in the name of them all may the better appeare to all that shall