Councels which the Church of Rome hath approued and by the Popes favorites themselues Wherein also you may perceiue to the number of three and twentie Schismes and many contrary Popes at the same time mutualy entitling themselues Antichrists Yea wherein haue liued many infamous Popes Necromancers Adulterers Murtherers aduanced to the Popedome by whores by Simony and by violence Such as take vpon them the title of God causing themselues to bee adored and Kings to kisse their feete and the Scripture to bee prostrate before them when they enter into the Councels such as vante they cannot erre that they can make another Creed can change Gods ordinances can transport soules out of Purgatory into Paradise and ranke whom they please in the Catalogue of Saints by canonizing them vnder colour whereof they exercise an abhominable commerce and trafficke by Dispensations Absolutions Indulgences Annates Licences and Benefices So as from a poore Bishop of a Citie who was no way eminent but in martyrdomes the Pope is become a puissant temporall Monarch surpassing in riches the greatest Monarchs of the earth To effect so great an alteration it was needfull that Religion should bee changed for the purity and plainnesse of christianity regulated by the Scriptures could not serue to build vp so great an Empire These things haue I amply handled in my first Booke wherein I maintaine the Authoritie of the Scripture Which work went then forth almost the very day that lesuite Regourds Booke against the Authoritie and Perfection of the Scripture was published These two Bookes if any man will compare together shall finde that I answere all that hee pleadeth against the authoritie of the Scripture and that Regourds Booke satisfieth nothing of all that I propose in mine Before that he published his book a Challenge was brought to the Pastors of this Church of Sedan to enter into conference dispute with some Doctors amongst whoÌ„ was Iesuite Regourd wherein they threatned us Wee accepted the Conference the place and day were assigned with all accommodations that after so many Defiances every mans honour should oblige him not to recant Neverthelesse hee durst not appeare and for two severall times failed at the day appoynted But his humour serving him at last to dispute and being thirstie of reputation hee went some where else to discharge his choler and in Conference seiseth upon Monsieur Mestrezat where he received all sort of disgrace so farre forth as his friends were faine to make use of superiour power to draw him from the combate and to hinder the Conference from Printing for it could not be seene but to his dishonour and that in a place where all things were favourable unto him and where the language of Truth is very new and strange And so retired this wittie Doctor as well contented as satisfied being not so wisely advised but to make trophies and signes of victory considering there were so many witnesses CHAP. VIII A Proofe of the same by the practise of the Primitiue Church WEe haue proved by many passages of our Adversaries that in the Church of Rome Traditions are much more esteemed and of greater authority then the Scripture which they so much under-value and charge with a thousand reproaches and that by injustice and most fraudulently the Councell of Trent seemes to make them equall Now are we to proue the same by the practise and maximes of the Church of Rome I. In the first place when our adversaries ground the authority of the Scripture upon tradition of the Church and would haue the Scripture received and beleeved because the Church doth so ordaine it It is evident that they preferre Tradition before Scripture for they make Scripture to depend upon Tradition esteeme Tradition of the Church more worthy of belife then Scripture and beleeue not the Scripture but because the Church of Rome hath so commanded it II. Let vs looke vpon experience and wee shall informe our selues that in the Church of Rome the people is a thousand fold more carefully instructed in Tradition then in the doctrine of salvation contained in holy Scriptures The most ignorant know the meaning of Lent and the foure Seasons they are instructed in the difference of meats they are skilled in Festivall dayes and Eues they goe in Pilgrimage visite the Reliques gaine Pardons purchase Masses Obits and Suffrages for the dead speake of Purgatory mumble over their Chaplet or Beads and their Rosary or our Ladies Psalter and discourse of the Popes succession in Saint Peters Chaire but they are ignorant in the holy Scripture accounting it modestie and humility not to enquire much after it Aske them upon the doctrine of our Redemption in Iesus Christ upon Iustification by faith vpon our free Adoption upon the correspondencie betweene the Law and the Gospell upon the difference between the old and new Testament upon the causes wherefore it was necessary that our Redeemer should bee God and man in the vnitie of person vpon the ends of their Resurrection and Ascension upon the Doctrine of faith and good works which are the poynts wherein consisteth the essence of Christian Religion and you shall finde them as mute as fishes and altogether uninstructed III. Baptisme is a divine Institution but Confirmation such as is practised in the Church of Rome and confection of the Crisome are humane Inventions Yet are they much more honoured then Baptisme for in the Church of Rome a woman yea a Pagan and Iew may baptize and giue that which they haue not and Confirmation is not administred nor Crisome consecrated but by the Bishop with great solemnitie IV. God hath commanded St. Peter and the other Apoâ—â—les to preach the Gospell but gaue them no command to giue Indulgences nor to canonize Saints nor to release soules out of Purgatory nor to consecrate their Agnus Dei and their blessed Beads The first poynt is a commandement of God the other things are humane Traditions which the Pope doth performe with preparation and solemnitie but hee preacheth not the Gospell esteeming the labour of preaching as a thing vnworthy of his greatnesse Insomuch as the Popes are industrious observers of their owne Traditions and adore their owne proper Inventions but dispense with the Lords commandements V. Hence commeth it to passe that the sinnes committed against Gods Law are held to be light in comparison of those committed against the Traditions Decrees and Canons of the Pontifies The inferiour Priests giue absolution of thest of lying and of whoredome which are sinnes against the Law of God but there are cases reserved wherein no man in France can giue absolution but at the poynt of death and they are specified in the Bull De Coena Domini which the Pope thundereth euery yeere on Maunday Thursday before the Paschall The sinnes that are most enormous and whereof no man but the Pope maketh absolution are not murther parricide incest sodomy and perjury but to appeale from the Pope to a future Councell to withdraw Tythes from
Greeke and Latine who very often jarre among themselues so far as not to agree vpon the next Successours to Saint Peter it is impossible that the people should know any thing in this succession oâ— should haue any assurance hereof but by the Testimony of those who brag of it and liue by it Moreover our adversaries doe confesse that the Pope and church of Rome may erre in the question de facto Now these questions to weet whetheâ— Saint Peter hath left the Bishop of Rome Successour of his Apostleship or of his Supremacy and whether this succession hath not beene interrupted by Schismes and heresies are questions de facto and consequently of the nature of those wherein our adversaries hold that the Church of Rome may erre And the proofes which our adversaries bring forth are drawne from books which theirselues conuince of falsity and from such fragments as for the most part are supposititious I forbeare to censure any further the certainty of Romish traditions seeing they are all founded vpon one Maxime which is a Tradition humane not vpheld by any Ordinance of God a Tradition which is not an Article of the Christian faith yet at this time is put downe for the ground of Faith a Tradition which is of the nature of those wherein our adversaries confesse that the Church may erre a Tradition whereof the people can haue no certainty nor knowledge but by bookes both Greeke and Latine of infinite length wherein they vnderstand nothing and by the Testimony of those especially who propose it that is to say the Popes who receiuing not the Scripture for Iudge cal themselues supreme Iudges and infallible in all controuersies more especially in that wherein is pleaded their succession and their owne proper authority and infallibility Now it is an easie matter to guesse at what the proceedings of the Enemy of our saluation doe levell Their butt scope is to distill as it were all Religion into a vapour and to make it depend vpon presuppositions not only vaine and vncertaine but also false and imaginary as he that should beare vp an obeliske vpon a smal feskue When some demand Wherefore is it behouefull to receive Traditions the answere is because the Pope hath ordained it Againe if it be demanded whence commeth this authority of the Pope it is answered Because Saint Peter dying hath left the Bishop of Rome Successour of his Supremacy over the Church of the whole world Moreouer when it is asked Can you produce any Ordinance of God for this succession for this point being estated by you for the foundation of the Church and of all the Christian faith it is not credible that God hath ordained nothing of it there they stand caught by the nose not vttering one syllable of the word of God and doe confesse that this succession is not lure diuino nor by the Ordinance of God Only the Popes will bee therein beleeued and call themselues supreme and absolute in a case wherein they are so much interessed and wherein it is disputed of their succession and authority Thus you may see all the Ius diuinum founded vpon a point which is not Iure diuino and all the divine doctrine founded vpon humane Tradition yea vpon humane Testimony the most vncertaine of all for the certainty of the Popes succession is founded vpon the Testimony and authority of the Pope himselfe who is party in this cause and who by this Tradition ruleth and vpholdeth his Empire Nay they doe worse they make not onely these Traditions but the very authority of the holy Scripture to depend vpon this Tradition Let it bee demanded wherefore ought we to beleeue that God hath created man after his owne Image that he hath giuen his Law to Moses in two Tables and that the Sonne of God hath taken flesh in the wombe of the blessed Virgine and is dead for vs It is answered that this is to be beleeued because it is written in the holy Scripture that God hath inspired his Prophets and Apostles Againe let it bee asked wherefore ought the holy Scriptures to bee beleeued and why are wee obliged to put our faith therein The answere Basiliensis ConcilyÌ„ appeÌ„dice Ecclesia Romana sic lequitur Qued autem verum feret Christi EvaÌ„ge leum quâ—mâ—de scire possetu nisi illud vobis patefeeissem Audistu noÌ„nullos ex Apostolu scripsisse Evangelia Sed quoâ—iam quatuer duntaxat approbavi â— Ra vt Evangelia venerantur alia respuuntur is Because the Church of Rome hath so ordained it which hath this authority by vertue of her succession in Supremacy of Saint Peter But vpon this question haue you any commandement from God they answere the holy Scripture indeed speaks nothing of it but the church of Rome is supreme Iudge and hath more authority over vs then the Scripture Neverthelesse in this point it is disputed of the authority of the Church of Rome wherein it is no reasonable thing that shee should bee Iudge much lesse to assigne her selfe Iudge aboue the Scripture Doe but obserue what becommeth of all Christian Religion in the account of these Merchants Their will is that God should bee beleeued because men ordained it and that the diuine truth should haue no other foundation then the evidence and authority of lying men yea such as will bee Iudges in their owne cause and who hauing invented a thousand Traditions all tendiâ—g to their profit hold them all vp by one Tradition alone which hath no other foundation then their owne authority There is no such pernicious stratageme to pervert the Christian Religion as to confound the things that are certaine by vncertaine proofes to plead humane Tradition for their highest and concluding principle and to order that the Christian faith should haue a Maxime that is no Articie of faith and is vpheld by no other authority then of those that publish it and such as by this Maxime enrich themselues and build them vp an Empire on the earth yea all the Churches in the world except the Romish doe reject this Maxime and laugh at this succession as a story contradicted by all antiquity and especially by al the Bishops of Rome who whilst the Romane Empire was in florishing estate never intermedled in any affaire beyond the limits of that Empire as I haue proued at large in my first Treatise The second Maxime is of the same nature and dependeth vpon the first Our adversaries to maintaine all their Traditions say that the Pope cannot erre in the Faith and that likewise by vertue of the same succession For they will haue the Pope Successour not only of the power of Saint Peter but also of his infallibility Now if the Pope should be Successour of the Supremacy of Saint Peter it followeth not thereupon that the Pope cannot erre for hee that is Successour of the charge of another is not therefore Successor of his vertue The Doctors that haue succeeded in the chaire of Moses haue
the Scripture of adding to the Creed of dispensing against the Apostle and of establishing new Articles of faith aâ— we haue shewed by multitudes of proofes by the practise of the church of Rome So as now wee are not to consider what doctrines haue been taught from the mouth of the Apostles but it is endeavoured to make us receiue all the Traditions which the Popes haue added not onely to the Scriptures but also to the preaching of the Apostles for inviolable lawes and infallible rules Our adversaries then come back to this that the Church of Rome cannot erre in her Traditions for shee cannot erre in this Tradition that shee cannot erre They would haue us beleeue the Tradition of the Romish Church because the Tradition of that Church hath so ordained it So as this third Maxime leadeth vs backe to the second which holdeth that the Pope cannot erre and this Maxime that the Pope cannot erre leadeth us to the first that is to say to the Succession of Saint Peter wherof God ordained nothing from whence they haue made this infallibilitie to spring forth It is lamentable to heare how they speake of the antiquitie of their Traditions yea when they be fresh and moderne They heard their fathers say that they heard from others and they againe from others that the Apostles haue taught these things by mouth onely and did disperse them amongst some few Thus they make a brittle cord which bindeth not the consciences and their beleefe striving to rove backe through fifteene or sixteene ages wherein they see not one jot is lost in the way in stead of beginning at the fountaine to wit at Iesus Christ and his Apostles and to learne in their writings that which they haue taught for a Commandement of the Lord or of the Apostles had in one word freed them from all doubt and difficultie CHAP. XII That our Adversaries alledging the Scripture doe contradict themselues and alledge Scripture for Traditions in generall without touching the particulars wherein they finde the Scripture contrary IT is the propertie of lying to say and unsay involving it selfe in contradictions Our adversaries build the authoritie of the Scripture upon the Tradition of the Church and then contradicting themselues they labour to ground Tradition vpon the testimony of Scripture Their custome is to alledge Scripture not to defend every one of their Traditions in particular but they endeavour to prooue in general that the Scripture speaketh of Traditions approveth them Presupposing without proofe thâ—â— the traditions wherof the Scripture maketh mention are those which in our times are received by the Church of Rome and where of the body of Papistry is compounded And herein they doe wisely For what should they find in the scripture that may be of use to uphold so many new inventions unlessâ— perhaps they would ground the abridgement of the cup upon the words of our Saviour Drinke ye â— Math. 26. 27. of it And upon the words of Sainâ— Paul writing to the people of Coâ—rinth Let a man examine himself 1 Cor. 11. 28. chap. 10. 17. and so let him eat of that Bread an drinke of that Cup. As likewise â— are all partakers of one and the same Bread and one and the same Cup according to the vulgar translation Or they would ground the single life of Priests and Bishops vpon the Apostles Commandement wherein he chargeth a Bishop to bee 1 Tim. 3. ver 2. 4. husband of one wife having his children in subjection with all gravity as also If they cannot containe let them 1 Cor. 7. 9. marry for it is better to marry then to burne Or Invocation of Saints vpon the words of Solomon that God onely 2 Chro. 6. 30 knoweth the hearts of men And vpon those of Saint Paul How shall they Rom. 10. 14 call upon him in whom they haue not beleeved And vpon those words of Iesus Christ When yee pray say Our Father which art in heaven c. Luk. 11. 2. Or private Masses and without Communicants upon this reason that Saint Paul calleth the holy Supper A Communion And upon 1 Cor. 10. 16 this that Iesus Christ giving bread to his disciples hath said Take eat for in their solitary Masses no man assisteth to whom the Priest may say Take Or the power of the Pope to depose Kings and to make them kisse his feet upon these sentences of the Apostles Feare God Honour 1 Pet. 2. 17. the King and vpon this Let every Rom. 13. 1. man bee subiect to superiour powers and vpon the example of Iesus Christ who payed tribute and washed his Apostles feet Or Service and Prayers in a strange language upon that which the Apostle speaketh Except you 1 Cor. 14. 9. 19. vtter by the tongue words easie to bee vnderstood how shall it be knowen what is spoken for yee shall speake into the ayre And I had rather speake in the Church five words with my vnderstanding then ten thousand in an vnknowne tongue Or difference of meates upon that which the Apostle sayth If any of them that beleeve not invite 1 Cor. 10. 27 you to a feast and ye be disposed to goe whatsoever is set before you eate asking no question for conscience sake And upon that which the same Apostle calleth the instructions of those that sayd touch not tast not handle not humane Commandements and doctrines although they were made for devotion and to subdue the flesh as he hath it in the 2 chap. to the Colos 21. 22. 23. Or merite of workes of condignity as they are called or of equivalence and congruity upon the words of our Saviour When you Luk. 17. â—â— shall have done all that is commanded you say we are vnprofitable servants Or workes of supererogation not commanded upon the summe of the Law which inioyneth to love God with all the heart and with all the strength For in these words is commanded all the good that man can doe and upon that where Saint Paul in the 4. to the Phil. 8. chargeth us to addict our selves to all things commendable and vertuous whereupon it followeth that if the works of supererrogation are vertuous and praise worthy they are commanded and vpon this that the perfection of the Angels doth consist in obeying the Commaundement of God Psal 103. 20. and not to doe more then he hath commanded Or borrowed satisfactions upon that which the Apostle testifieth that every man shall carry his owne burthen Galat. 6. 5. and that every man shall receiue his owne proper reward according to his owne labour 1 Cor. 3. 8. Or offerings of Priests in making sacrifices for the living and the dead upon that which Iesus Christ hath sayd Doe this in remembrance of me which is the place for proofe thereof that the Counsell of Trent in the 22. session wil have to be received of every man under paine of an Anathema Or festivall play dayes upon the
commandement of God speaking Exod. 20. 9. sixe dayes shalt thou labour Or the power of the Pope to set at liberty under ground and to give Indulgences to the dead upon that which Iesus Christ sayth Math. 18. 18. Whatsoever yee shall bind and loose on earth c. Or cases reserved to the Pope upon the words of our Saviour uttered to all the Apostles Whose sinnes soever yee shall pardon they shall Iohn 20. 23 be pardoned Or images of the Almighty upon that which God discoursing to the People of Isreal giveth the reason why in speaking to them from heaven he suffered none to see any image or resemblance For Deut. 4. 23. feare sayth hee Lest yee might forget the Covenant which he made with you and make you a graven image or the likenesse of any thing male or female Or establishing of brothell-houses at Rome by the authority of his holinesse vpon the commandement Thou shalt not commit adultery Deut. 4. 13. Or the doctrine of the Councell of Trent affirming in the fift Session that covetousnesse is no sinne upon the law of God speaking Thou shalt not covet and upon the Deut. 5. 21. testimony of the Apostle saying that he hath learnt out of the law that covetousnesse is sinne Rom. 7. 7. Or forbidding the People to read the Scripture upon that which is written in the Apocal. Blessed is Apoe 1. 3. he that readeth and they that heare the words of this prophecy and upon the example of the people of Berea who Acts 17. 11. searched the Scriptures daily and upon the commandement made to Kings to reade carefully the booke of Deut. 17. 18. the law of God Or swearing by reliques upon the commandement of God Thou Deut. 10. 20. shalt feare the Eternall and sweare by his name Or Purgatory upon that which the Lord sayd unto the Thiefe upon the Crosse Thou shalt be with me Luk. 23. 43. this day in Paradise and upon the Luk. 17. 22. example of Lazarus whose soule was carried by the Angells into Abrahams bosome imediately after his death and upon the Apostle Saint Iohn speaking That the blood 1 Iohn 1. 7. of Iesus Christ purgeth us from all sin Or the sacrifice of the body of Iesus Christ in the Masse upon that which the Apostle to the Hebrews speaking of the sacrifice of the death of Iesus Christ made up on the Crosse declareth that We Hebr. 10. 10 14. are sanctified through the offering of the body of Iesus Christ once for all Hebr. 9. 25. 26. and that Iesus Christ offereth not himselfe ofien for as it is ordained for all men to dye once so Christ hath beene offered once to take away our sinnes making the sacrifice of Iesus Christ no more reiterable then the death of men Without all doubt if contrariety to the Scripture can give authority to the Romish Traditions these traditions which I have specified ought to bee of great authority Yea to summe up all our adversaries are too licencious and rash in their conjectures and I cannot conceave that they beleeve it themselves when they would have vs to beleeve that Iesus Christ speaking in private with his Disciples did conferre about the service of Images and great Pardons to bee made by the Pope of Chaplets and Blessed-beads of lessening the torment of Soules in Purgatory by Masses and Indulgences c. To what may this tend but to expose Iesus Christ to laughter or to delight themselves in faining matters without proofe and to allure those that will bee deluded to beleeve things that are incredible for such kind of presuppositions worke their effect according as he is awed that propoundeth them CHAP. XIII That our adversaries to distinguish the good Traditions from the bad doe give vs a Plea wherein they wholly convict themselves TO discerne the good Traditions from the bad our adversaries lay downe certaine Pleas which wee hold fit to have strictly examined They say that the Traditions ought to bee both receaved and beleeved to be divine which have alwaies beene approoved by the vniuersall Church as Vincentius Lyrinensis confirmeth it allowing that to bee received for truth which hath ever beene beleeved wholly and by all and Saint Augustine in his Epistle 118. If the Si quid horuÌ„ rota per orbeÌ„ frequentat Ecclesia hoc quin it a facienduÌ„ sit disputare insolentissima insaniae est Quod vâ—iversa tenet Ecclesia nec CoÌ„cilijs institutuÌ„ sed semper retentuÌ„ non nisi au horttate Apestolica tradituÌ„ certisimè creditur Church throughout the world observe any thing it is a distracted impudence to dispute whether it ought to be so or no and in his 4. Booke against the Donatists Chapter 4. That which the universall Church holdeth and hath not beene instituted by Councells but ever maintained is to bee beleeved in all just reason not to have beene ordained by other power then the Apostolique Authority Now though these passages of Saint Augustine bee unseasonably alledged because they speake of customes not necessary to salvation indifferent in their nature or of opinions without the knowledge wherof a man may be saved as we shall hereafter discover yet I say that by this Plea the Traditions of the Church of Rome doe fall to the ground and are not currant or receiueable for it is easie to prove that they have not beene received from the beginning by the Catholike Church How is it that Purgatory which 1. Purgatory is by interpretation a subterraneall fire where the soules of the faithfull are purged by orment could be beleeved in the ancient church seeing that a great part of the Fathers did beleeve that the soules could not be tormented without the bodies And that the Masse prayeth for soules that sleepe in a peaceable rest it being a cleere case that when this piece was patched to the Canon of the Masse the Church of Rome did not beleeve that the soules of the faithfull were tortured in a fire Pope Gregorie the 1. In his Dialogues sâ—ateth Purgatory in the smoake of baths and in the wind for this underground fire was not yet devised and yet this time was so far advanced as to the yeere 590. of our Lord. Invocation of Sts. was unknown 2. InvocatioÌ„ of Saints under the three first ages of the Christian Church and more then halfe of the fourth Cardinall Befla in his third booke of worshipping Saints Chap. 9. saith that When the §. Pratercacum scribetentur scriptura sancta 〈◊〉 coeperat usus vovends sanctia holy Scriptures were written the custome was not yet to make vowes to Saints Which is as much to say in plaine termes that about the Apostle time Saints were not called on nor did the Apostles who survived the Virgin Mary addresse their vowes unto her And Cardinall Perron to whom this commendation Du Perron coÌ„rre le Roy de la Grand Bretagne
pag. 76. Cha. 8. A proofe of the same by the practice of the Primitive Church p. 110. Chap. 9. Three reasons wherefore Tradition is preferred before the Scripture c. pag. 121. Chap. 10. That in this Question by the word Church our Adversaries understand the Pope alone pag. 129. Chap. 11. Of what sort how weake and how uncertaine the Foundations are whereon the Traditions of the Romish Church are built c. pag. 139. Chap. 12. That our Adversaries alledging the Scripture doe contradict themselves and alledge Scripture for Tradition in generall without touching the particulars wherein they finde the Scripture contrary pag. 165. Chap. 13. That our Adversaries to distinguish the good Traditions from bad doe give vs a plea wherein thâ—y wholly convict themselves p. 175. Chap. 14. A proofe of the same by the Traditions which our Adversars â—s doe â—uppose to be the mist ancient and best grounded in Antiquity p. 195. Chap. 15. The seconâ— marke set by our Adversaries to distinguish the good Traditions from the bad viz. Succession p. 205. Chap. 16. That the Pharisees and ancient Hereticks had recourse to Tradition that Clemens Alexandrius suffered himselfe to be too much carried away in the same p. 217. Chap. 17 An examination of the passages of Scripture whereon they found Traditions p. 223. Chap 18. An answere to that which is objeâ—â—ed vnto us that the Church hath bin sometime without the Scripture pag. 231. Chap. 19. That the Church of the old Testament after the Law given by Moses vntill Iesus Christ hath had no unwritten Traditions p. 236. Cha. 20. An answer to our adversaries aâ—â—â—â—ming that we receive many Traditions contained in Scripture p. 254 Chap. 21. A proofe of the sufficiency and perfection of the Scriptures by the testimony of God himselfe speaking in the Scriptures P. 267. Chap. 22. Whether to ground a Doctrine it be lawfull to use words equivalent to those that are found in the Scripture or to vse consequences and Arguments pag. 298. Chap. 23. Testimonies of the Fathers touching the perfection of the Scripture pag. 322. Cha. 24. How the Texts and passages of the Fathers which our Adversaries alledge for the unwritten Traditions ought to be vnderstood p. 346. Chap. 25. A proofe of that which went before pag. 349. Cha. 26. Three ancient Customes which we are blamed to have forsaken p. 393 Chap. 27. That the Traditions of the Romish Church of this time have nothing in common with the unwritten Traditions mentioned by the Fathers pag. 398. Chap. 28. Of the multitude of Traditions in the Church of Rome p. 403. A LEARNED TREATISE OF TRADITIONS OF THE SACRED Scriptures perfection against the Traditions of the Romish Church CHAP. 1. Concerning the nature of this Controversie OVr Adversaries were accustomed a great while to dispute by way of Scripture but at length perceiving themselues weake in the cause and being much disquieted that the Scripture doth locke them vp into so narrow a roome they spurne against it labouring to make it appeare doubtfull and without authoritie By this meanes our Controversies change their nature for instead of disputing by ground of Scripture we are now led backe to dispute of the Scripture it selfe and to defend the Authoritie and Perfection of it This is now the field wherein our Adversaries doe sport and display the mettall of their conceits They accuse the Scripture of imperfection and insufficiencie of obscuritie and vncapablenesse to determine any difference calling it a dumbe and imperfect rule a nose of wax a rocke of scandall a scabbard that receiveth as well a leaden as a steele blade And though Church of Rome bee partie in the cause yet will it bee Iudge supreame and infallible If the Church bee Iudge shee of Rome will bee Iudge and will haue it appertaine to her to prescribe her taske vnto her selfe and to bee soveraigne Iudge of her owne proper dutie Our Adversaries make the Church of Rome the Iudge infallible of her owne proper infallibilitie and that shee shall bee soveraigne Iudge of the interpretation of the same Lawes wherby God doth judge her sinnes They sticke not to say that the Church of Rome is no way subject to the Scripture that is to say to God speaking by his Prophets and Apostles So on the other side they maintaine that the Scripture is subject to the Church of Rome and ought to be regulated by the Faith of that Church They avow that to bee the singular and onely Church which giueth authoritie to the Scripture and will haue the Scripture inferiour to the Church in Dignity in Stability in Certainty in Antiquitie and in Amplitude Yea so farre they proceed that the Pope may adde to the Creed dispense contrary to the Apostles alter that which God hath ordained in the holy Scriptures and dispose of his Commandements They hold that the sacred Scripture bee therefore entertained and received amongst men because the Pope doth approoue and ordaine it so to be as if the Pope were more to be credited then God speaking in his holy Scriptures or that he were no whit subject to the Law of God contaâ—ned in the Scripture In all this controversie betweene the Scripture and the Church concerning the preheminence by this word Church our adversaries alwayes understand the Romish although there be many other more ancient and more pure namely the Greeke the Syrian the Affrican c. and by the Romish church they understand the Pope alone in whom resideth the soveraigne authoriâ—ie who judgeth all â—hings without possibility to erre yea then especially when hee judgeth alone motu proprio of his owne meere motion and speaking in the Chayre Apostolique and when it is his pleasure to joyne unto him some Prelates for his assistance in Decreeing hee reinvesteth them with infallible knowledge and vnderstanding yea in the poynts which he himselfe understandeth not Whosoeuer will heere open his eyes and not forbid himselfe the use of reason shall easily perceiue that Satan by this proceeding indeavoureth slily to bring in Atheisme and to vndermine the foundations of Christian Religion For by this meanes the Christian Faith is not founded vpon the Word of God contained in the holy Scriptures but vpon humane and uncertaine evidence yea the most uncertaine that can bee conceived they justifying the authoritie of the Church of Rome to be onely established vpon the testimony of the Romish Church making her Iudge witnesse and party in the same cause and endeavouring to make men beleeue that the Church of Rome hath more authoritie then the Scriptures for she her selfe doth say it If it be so that the authoritie of the Scripture bee grounded vpon the authoritie of the Church of Rome why doe they alledge unto us passages of Scripture to support the authoritie of the Church of Rome And when instead of directing the Faith of a Christian by the Word of God speaking in the Scriptures they send him to the Church the simple people are perplexed and
Heretickes had recourse to Tradition and the unwritten word and that Clemens Alexandrinus suffered himselfe to bee too much carried away in the same THe custome of Heretickes both ancient and moderne is when they are at default in Scripture to have recourse to Traditions Iosephus in his 3. booke of Antiquities ch the 18. affirmeth that The Pharisees had very many observations by the successive Tradition of their Fathers which are not written in the law of Moses Whereupon Iesus Christ at the 15. of Saint Matt. the 3. 9. accuseth them to have transgressed the Law of God by their Tradition which Pharisaical Traditions were doctrines that for the most part commanded things not expresly forbidden in the Law of God as to clense their Pots and Vessell to wash their bodies at returne from Market to lengthen out their Phylacteries to fast twice in a weeke to poure forth longer prayers then ordinary to make conscience of healing the sicke or journeying more then two miles upon the Sabath This I observe to the end it may not be sayd that Iesus Christ condemneth them only for teaching things expresly forbidden in the law of God Tertullian in his booke of prescriptions chap. the 25. telleth us that the Heretikes of his time affirmed Non omnia volunt illv amnibus revelasle quaedaÌ„ enim palam universis quadaÌ„ seeretò at paucio demandasse That the Apostles had not revealed all things to all but that they had commanded some things openly and some in secret and to few But the same Tertullian after hee had written this booke applieth himselfe to defend the heresies of Montanus by the unwritten word speaking in the second Chapter of his booke of Monogamy that Christ De vtroque aute Daminus promus is avit Adouo habeo multa qua loquar ad ves c. pronounced his opinion thereupon when he sayd I have many things to tell you but you cannot at this time beare them away Irenaeus lived at the same time who in his first Booke and fourth Chap. saith that The Carpocratian Iesum in mysterio discipulu suis seersim lequmtum illes expostulasse vt dignis assentsentibus searsum hac tradereÌ„t Heretikes affirmed that Iesus had spoken in private to his Disciples and had required of them that they should teach these things a part to the worthy and to such as give their approbation thereof and in his 2. ch of the 3. booke Cum ex scriptur is arguuntur in accusationem convartuntur scripturarum quasi noÌ„ rectè habeant neq sint ex authoritate et quia varia sunt dicta quia non possit ex hu inventri veritas ab his qui nesetant traditionem Non enim per literat traditaÌ„ illaÌ„ sed per vivam vocem When they are confuted by the Scriptures they revile and turne againe to accuse the Scriptures themselues as if they were not as they should be and had not sufficient authority and because matters therein are diversly spoken and that in them the truth cannot be found by those who are ignorant of Tradition which they say was not giveÌ„ by writing but viva voce by word of mouth Some twenty yeeres after the death of Saint Iohn one of his disciples named Papias Bishop of Hierapolis addicted himselfe to the unwritten 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Traditions the which were Parables and strange doctrines and other fabulous devices as Eusebius witnesseth at the last Chapter of the 3. Booke of his Ecclesiasticall History Clemens Alexandrinus a most worthy Author to be read but one who hath his infirmities venteth many vaine things and false doctrines drawne from Tradition as for example that the Greekes were justified by Phylosophy that Iesus Christ descended into hell to Preach to the Iewes that the Apostles also descended thither to Preach to the Gentiles and many other the like fancies all his bookes of his Stromatae are full of them especially the sixth The followers of Artemon the 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Onones insipientisiumi haretici audacias sigm â—toruÌ„ suorum juas maxime exhorret sensus humanus has occasione EvaÌ„gelica colorare nituntur vbi Dominus ait adhuc multa habeo vobis dicere sed non potestis portare mado quasi hae ip a sint qua tune discipuli portare non poterant heretick teaching matters not contained in the Scripture professed that They did exercise them from their predecessors yea from the Apostles as Eusehius hath it in the 5. booke of history chap. the 25. Saint Augustine writing vpon Saint Iohn at his 97. Treatise hath these words The most senselesse Hereticks who would be called Christians strive to colour their bold inventions which are abhorred by humane sense with the pretext of this evangelicall sentence where our Lord speaketh I have yet many things to tell you but you cannot beare them at this time as if these were the same things which the Apostles could not then carry we shall not therefore affront or wrong Cardinall Bellarmine if we ranke him amongst those which Augustine calleth most senslesse Hereticks seeing that hee speaketh as these hereticks imploying the same quotation to proove Romish Traditions speaking thus in the 5. Chapter of his Esse aliquas veras traditiores probatur testimonys ScripturaruÌ„ Primum est Iohan. 16. Multa habeo veâ—is iâ—erâ— sed non potestâ—â— portare moda booke of the unwritten word It is prooved by testimony of Scripture that there are some true Traditions the first testimony is at the 16. of Saint Iohn I have many things to tell you c. Thus have the ancient Heretickes no want at all of Disciples CHAP. XVII An examination of the passages of Scripture whereon they found Traeditions OVr adversaries ground the authority of the Scripture upon unwritten Tradition whence it followeth if they had but reason for it that unwritten Tradition is not grounded upon the Scripture they contest therfore against themselves when they endeavour to ground Tradition upon the Scripture but let us heare their proofes In imitation of the ancient Heretickes they alledge these words of our Lord Iesus to his Apostles at the 16. of Saint Iohn verse 12. I have yet more things to tell you c. This is the passage that served the ancient Heâ—erikes turne to proove their Traditions as Tertul. witneâ— fâ—th in his booke of Prescriptions Chap. 22. such imaginations if men would beleeve them are The succession of the Pope in the Apostleship of Saint Peter invocation of Saints service to images the power of the Pope to draw soules out of Purgatory c. And they pronounce this without any proofe save only because theirselves doe say it and the Pope will have it fo to be unto whom these Traditions are very gainefull But wee had rather beleeve in Iesus Christ who expoundeth himselfe in the same place for at the verse following he declareth to his Disciples that the spirit of truth