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ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A17236	A briefe answer, vnto those idle and friuolous quarrels of R.P. against the late edition of the Resolution: by Edmund Bunny. Whereunto are prefixed the booke of Resolution, and the treatise of pacification, perused and noted in the margent on all such places as are misliked of R.P. shewing in what section of this answer following, those places are handled	Bunny, Edmund, 1540-1619.	1589 (1589)	STC 4088; ESTC S112819	102,685	176

needs must this also be an obscure sentence apt to deceiue to vse the same the tricke of an heretike But doe you thinke that Epiphanius or Augustine would sooth you herein or that S. Peter meant of any such matter If they would find it set it down if not how is it then marke whence you are falne that you are not ashamed so fowly to wrest them The aduantage that herein you haue left to me against your self is in comparisoÌ„ no great matter yet such as I saide such as it is needs must you heare of it because you are so ready to catch at others It resteth therfore in these 2. points one that you do the sentence some wrong to set it down so negligently coÌ„fusedly as you do not distinguishing the members thereof by orderly pointing as you had it of me as it is witnes your selues in the text it self the other that twise togither you do so resolutely ascribe it to S. Paul Touching the first it may be but the ouersight of you or your printer howbeit both of you ought to haue vsed more diligeÌ„ce in it The senteÌ„ce is to good purpose it is weightie and of great importance you ought to haue seene better vnto it both he for his part and you for yours But I doubt very much that your Printer hath doone but as you your selfe set it downe vnto him and that you haue doone it of purpose nothing at all regarding how confusedly nor how ill-fauoredly you serue vs with the word of God But we will not so take it at your handes With ill will you are brought at length to haue some dealing with the written worde of God and very shame hath woon at your hands not so far to abandon your selues from the scriptures as otherwise full gladly you would And nowe that you must for shame doe somewhat you would gladly do it as ill-fauouredly as you might that so wee might find neither life nor comfort nor sense therin But you shall not so abuse the word of life you shall not shrinke from it and yet you shall not sliue it neither Whereunto if we may be so bolde as to adde that your selfe is one of these Iesuite-friers that late ofspring of that ruinous Popedom as that R. P. that is thought to bee the authour of this booke is said to be you haue done well so to let the world vnderstand and you may do well to marke it your selfe what ill accord there is betwixt Iesus and Iesuites whensoeuer they meete You had no sooner espied him to be in place but by and by your stomake rose against him and some way or other must you needes shewe your gall there was no remedie As touching the latter of them I denie not but that it is the iudgement of diuers of the ancient fathers that it might bee the Apostle Saint Paul that wrote it and of some that it was and so likewise of the writers nowe But yet you cannot bee ignorant withall that the matter was then in question among them yet is with the learned now What ground therefore can you haue to affirme so resolutely that which the fathers of olde and the learned now haue not yet so throughly decided If you alledge the determination of the church of Rome we hold it for nothing in these matters now since the time that you are departed away from the faith in so manie things as you are and haue banded your selues against the Lord and his annointed And if needs you will looke to be allowed this libertie that you may so determine vpon it as you thinke good you had need first to see how those reasons may be answered that are to the contrarie rather than so seruilely to cleaue to the bare iudgement of those that set it downe as themselues list I speake it but of your owne companions nowe without regarding vnto what side the strongest reasons incline Seeing that we do all agree that it is Apostolical and the vndoubted word of God it can be no derogatiue vnto it soberly to harken further of him that wrote it neither yet to doubt in such a point of an opinion but so farre receiued so long as wee see not the reasons cleared that are to the contrarie But it may be you wil thinke that these things are so small in themselues that the aduantage that therein you haue left vnto mee was not to be regarded nor so to be laide to your charge Whether it be litle or great it forceth not now but this may I plainely set downe vnto you that the lesser of them both is of that importance that therein as I said you haue giuen greater cause or iust reproofe than I did to you or any other not onely for setting downe the sentence it selfe in such sort as I did but also in all the rest that followeth When you were so readie to reproue another vpon your owne surmise without any sufficient ground for your perswasion therein you should haue taken such heed to your selfe as that wherein you condemned another your selfe were not found more faultie than he 4 Being come thus far your conclusion is And this for the first Page Yea verily your dealing about my first Page onely may bee sufficient to teach vs all how ready you are to pick som quarrel or other what indifferencie or plain dealing we may looke for at your hands in al the rest And I will assure the Reader togither with you that such as this your beginning is such none other is that which followeth in the one you haue giuen a tast of the other For such occasioÌ„ as I gaue you in the disposing of the title in prefixing the sentence aforesaid so to inueigh against me as you do such haue I giueÌ„ you in that which followeth as you deal in these things against me as if there were a fault coÌ„mitted when as notwithstanding you haue found none do not nor can not lay any to my charge eueÌ„ so do you in the rest likewise as I trust the indifferent Reader shall soon perceiue And so you haue done very well so distinctly to point your finger as you doe to this your woorthy handling of those matters that you met withall in the first page I am content if so you wil haue it that it shall stand for a right pattern of al the rest Be it now whatsoeuer it can be such as this is such is the other any man that will may in this beginning see the whole course that you do hold vntill the ending 5 Which that your self may better declare as you haue ended with this your first page so haue you a fresh beguÌ„ with the next For there by placing the arms of the church of York the Archbishop that now is togither you readily infer a conclusion no doubt that followeth on the premisses passing wel that it is with vs Good doctrine

A Briefe Answer vnto those idle and friuolous quarrels of R. P. against the late edition of the RESOLVTION By Edmund Bunny Wherunto are praefixed the booke of Resolution and the treatise of Pacification perused and noted in the margent on all such places as are misliked of R. P. shewing in what Section of this Answer following those places are handled PSALM 120. 7. I labour for peace but when to that ende I speake vnto them they prepare themselues vnto warre AT LONDON Printed by Iohn Charlewood Anno. Dom. 1589. The Praeface to the Reader GENTLE Reader I am nowe to craue this fauour of thee that I may be so bolde as to present thee with such an argument as of the verie nature of it is not so welcome to those that are of a quiet and peaceable disposition such also as my selfe do so little like of that neuer yet did I medle therewith of myne onwe accord hauing otherwise business enough in another kind that is sufficient to occupie me Howbeit it is needefull also that the aduersarie be answered and that the weakenes of their allegations which otherwise might seeme to be strong be euer discouered that others be not shaken thereby And seeing that I am nowe by this occasion drawne forth to this kind of argument and withall haue left me good store of matter to goe against I could do no lesse then to answer my call in this kind also The matter is this A few yeeres since I somewhat purged and afterwarde published as it is sufficiently known vnto manie the Booke of Resolution the rather to prouoke those discontented countrimen of ours to gather themselues to more moderate waies and to better agreement in the cause of Religion as in my Praeface I had noted before To which end also I was not so curious in purging of it but willinglie left whatsoeuer I thought might tollerably stand and somewhat further to induce them also I adioyned thereunto an other little Treatise tending to Pacification Since which time the same R. P. that had set it foorth so corruptly before hath not only set it forth so again but also hath much increased it with those common fragments of their moth-eaten Poperie with some other both discourses vagaries besides Howbeit he hath altered the title and hath framed another so grosly vnto it that of whom soeuer he borrowed the best part of the former yet may you be sure that the title of this latter Booke is his without any question For beeing weary of the former title that made the whole matter no more but a Christian exercise as in deede beeing purged it might rightly be termed so vpon a smal occasion he iustleth that aside out of the way being very impotently caried with a Pharifaiacall zeale to aduance the righteousnes of workes against the suffering and merits of Christ hee must needs haue this Christian Exercise in the way of godlines to be a Directorie guiding men vnto saluation and yet Christian too as though Christ had come downes from heauen to teache vs to seeke our saluation at least in part in our own righteousnes not only in his death and merits without any thing els to be mingled withall in that account The additions also that he hath put therunto doe seldome answer the former platforme some of argument good enough in themselues but not so fitly agreeing to the matter that hee had in hand others that draw neerer to the matter that was to be handled but weake in themselues and in many places to so little purpose that he doth nought els oftimes but fetch certain idle careers about it A booke that was much vntil they had seene it desired of many vpon the hope that by the former was conceaued of it but once being had so little answering their expectation that accordingly it findeth euen among the most of themselues but smal estimation being so corrupt a thing as it is almost as incorrigible as the Ma. himself I mean not to wast my labor about it In the Praeface of which booke in certaine of his Annotations theron he much inueigheth against me and it passing angry for medling so far as I did with the former But it is vpon so litle ground to so little purpose withal that for a time I could in no wise perswade my selfe that it were any better then lost labor to make him answer both because the matter it selfe was of no importance that he laid to my charge but in al places to speake of answereth it selfe and because the booke likewise was of smal account nor had but of few of their own fauorites among them also could litle be suffered to come abroad But yet one other respect there is wherein at length I was perswaded to make him answer For it is not vnknown almost vnto any in these daies of ours what greeuous complaints they make against vs howe boldly and resolutly they cleere themselues and charge vs almost in all thinges that goe betwixt vs as plainly appeareth in their Rhemes Testament for altogether in their seueral writings besides for euery one a part by themselues Wherein it is a world to see with what faces boldnes of speech they auowe those foolish wicked doctrines of theirs that without question are only Romish and most schismatical yet notwithstanding to be very Catholike the truth of Iesus Christ as it was by himself by his Apostles deliuered vnto vs to be no better then plain heresie and for those wicked practises that of late they haue so busily imployed themselues about how some of them deny those things that were as cleere as the light of the sunne others iustifie those that are most wicked trecherous in the highest degree and when some of them are punished for those their demerits yet but in very moderate maner and but so farre as vrgent necessity required neyther yet notwithstanding they cry out of such persecution as neuer was heard of Which writings of theirs what man can read that is not before acquainted with their maner of dealing but that needs he must yeeld some credit vnto them although he can think that all is not true yet so bold speeches as those must needs breed a perswasion with some that there is some great cause that so they complain or at least somwhat there is wherein they are iniured So that when as now they find by experience they are not able by learning to shew it to those that can examine their speeches by learning the next that remaineth is by out-facing boldnes of speech to retain such credit as they are able in the harts of those that they know will examine nothing they say yet neuertheles beleeue that it is as true as the Gospel Now that they see that there is no place for the Kingdom of the Beast in the harts of those that examin all things by the word of GOD before they beleeue

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