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A14258 The hundred and ten considerations of Signior Iohn Valdesso treating of those things which are most profitable, most necessary, and most perfect in our Christian profession. Written in Spanish, brought out of Italy by Vergerius, and first set forth in Italian at Basil by Cœlius Secundus Curio, anno 1550. Afterward translated into French, and printed at Lions 1563. and again at Paris 1565. And now translated out of the Italian copy into English, with notes. Whereunto is added an epistle of the authors, or a preface to his divine commentary upon the Romans.; Consideraciones divinas. English Valdés, Juan de, d. 1541.; Ferrar, Nicholas, 1592-1637.; Herbert, George, 1593-1633. 1638 (1638) STC 24571; ESTC S119070 234,477 356

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descends a vitall vertue by meanes whereof it lives so every one of those who being incorporated in Christ are the Church of god because he can speake saith and affirmeth that he feeles that from Christ there comes unto him a spirituall vertue by meanes whereof he lives a spirituall life This S. Iohn thus understood Chap. 1. when he said For of his fullnesse have we all received and grace for grace And so S. Paul understood it Colos. 1. For it pleased the Father that in him should all fullnesse dwell I know Christ for King in the people of god for I understand that he is he who with his spirit rules and governes it not onely in inward things and divine as head but also as god In outward things and corporall as King In all which things being as they are the Sonnes of god as S. Paul saith Rom. 8. they are lead by the spirit of God And so I understand that the kingdome of god is not called the spirituall kingdome because he governes us in spirituall things but because governing us in spirituall and corporall things he doth not govern us with the outward law but with the inward law which is the government of the Holy Spirit the Christian spirit Of this kingdome of Christ the holy Scriptures are full Esay 5. Mic. 5. Daniel 7. By which I understand that in this present life God reigns but by Christ that in lifeeternall god shall reign but by himselfe For then he shall be all in all 1. Cor. 15. In this manner I know Christ glorious for King in the people of god for Head in the Church of god and for Lord of the Elect of god And I know Christ humble most innocent and free from all sinne and abounding in all justice And I know fullfilled in him in part the promises of god made to David and to Abraham And I know him for the Sonne of god first borne and onely begotten I know that he is the Word of god with which god created all things I know him eternall consubstantiall And I hold for certain that as the Christian faith shall goe on being in me more efficacious mortifying me and quickening me so theseknowledges of Christ shall goe on being more cleare and more distinct by which I shall goe on from day to day alwaies more knowing god as he may be knowne whilst this flesh being passible and mortall is not a subject habilitated to see Christ to see God face to face as I shall see him in life eternall Having taken this resolution in the conceit which I ought to have of Christ I goe resolving my selfe in the conceit that I ought to have of them who are the members of Christ considering every one of them a Sonne of god not first borne as Christ who alwaies was a Sonne but an adopted Sonne by Christ and in Christ not onely begotten as Christ who is the sonne by generation but regenerated by Christ and in Christ borne the sonne of wrath and re-borne the sonne of God not in the state of gloryfication in which Christ i●… but in the state of opprobry in which Christ was not Lord of Gods elect but one of the number of them who being elected of God are the servants of Christ redeemed and bought by Christ Not head of the Church of God as Christ but a mēber of the Church of God of which Christ is the head Not King of the people of God as Christ but governed by the spirit of Christ by meanes of which spirit I know that all the members of Christ stand united amongst themselves and united with Christ himselfe and therefore united also with God God abiding in them and they in God And so I see fullfilled that Prayer which Christ made unto his Father for this union Iohn 17. saying That they may be one in us c. And I understand that in this vnion consisteth all the christian perfection I pray God that he doe in such manner Imprint it in my memory that it may not seeme that it sever itselfe or depart from it not so much as for one moment to the intent that I never may doe thing which shall not be worthy of this union which I acknowledge from my christ who is my Lord my Head and my King To him be glory with the Father and the holy spirit Amen CONSID. CX That the principall gifts are not understood untill they be possessed A Most great testimony of the Christian life is this that according as a christian man goes perfecting himself in his christian customes so he goes clearing himselfe in his christian conceptions Nay I hold for certain that the selfesame christian spirit which goes perfecting him in his customes goes clarifying him in his conceptions so much that it can be hardly understood whether the clarification in the conceptions comes from the perfection in the customes or the perfections in the customes come from the clarification in the conceptions And therefore it is sure to say that both the one and the other thing comes from the christian spirit which doth marvellously work both the one and the other in them who accept the Gospell of Christ. This I haue said to this purpose that I having understood that the christian businesse is not science but experience and having by many comparisons procured to make some persons capable of this truth I haue never remained satisfied in my minde in such manner that it seemed to me to haue expressed to mine own manner my conceit untill now that having in mine own judgement comprehended it with more clearenesse itseems to mee to bee able to expresse it better And so I say that between the believing and accepting the christian things Faith Hope Charity with humane wit●… or with the christian spirit I know the difference which I know between accepting approving those three naturall vertues Magnanimity Valour and Liberality and having them indeed I would say that as there be mē who hearing speak of these three naturall vertues and of the perfection of them albeit they doe not know them in themselves do approue them and accept them for good so there bee also of those men who hearing speak of those three gifts of God Faith Hope and Charity and of the perfection and efficacy of them albeit they doe not know them in themselves doe approve them and accept them for good believing that thy who accept the grace of the Gospell doe enjoy the remission of sins the reconciliation with God through Christ and approving the hope with which they expect the felicity of eternall life and the loue with which they loue God aboue every thing and they loue their neighbour as themselves And I say farther that as whilst they who approve those three natural vertues not possessing them albeit they willingly heare talk of them through the desire which they haue to possesse them yet is not that so much as that it gives them entire
able to separate him from the love of God And that which he shewed in the outward is seen by the miracles which he did and by the many people that he converted And I understand that the power which S. Paul felt in the inward was much greater then that which he shewed in the outward I would say that which S. Paul shewed in the outward was not in that degree of power as that which he felt in the inward The selfe same which I consider in S. Paul I consider in every one of them which are the members of Christ more or lesse according as is that part of faith and of the spirit which every one of them possesseth understanding that from S. Pauls being a member of Christ it proceeded that he was in all that hath been spoken like unto Christ. Farther I understand that the consideration of the two weaknesses considered in Christ workes the same effect in him that considers them I that the weaknesse which he feeles in the inward goes abating in him in as much as his affections and appetites goe on dying and the weaknesse which he shewes in the outward goes increasing in as much as he is estee●…ed more vulgar more vile and more of litle regard and is more mocked more outraged more persecuted and worse intreated And I understand also that the consideration of these two powers vertues and efficacies considered in Christ workes that effect in him that considers them that in him growes increasing the power the vertue and the efficacy that he feeles in the inward in as much as he hath more peace in conscience hath more spirit and more other knowledges divine conceptions of God and of the things of God And there goes abating in him the power the vertue the efficacy which he shewes in the outward in as much as he only shewes himselfe when he is inspired and moved of God to shew himselfe in such manner as that so much i●… one the more like to Christ in as much as he is more weak in that which is seen and in as much as he is more powerfull in that which is not seen I will adde this that the saints of the world know the power in God by the power that Christ shewed in the outward knowing weaknesse in God through the weaknesse that Christ shewed in the outward They know power in God through the transfiguration of Christ. And they know weaknesse in God by the death of Christ. And I understand that the Saints os God know without all comparison greater Power in God through the weaknesse which Christ shewed in the outward then through the power which Christ shewed in the outward and it is so indeed that they knew greater Power in God by the grace of Christ then by the transfiguration of Christ knowing that it is so indeed And so it is perceaved that from Christs shewing himselfe weak his death on the Crosse did result and from his death on the crosse is resulted all the good of the world all the felicity and the prosperity which they who are Christs members doe enioy and shall enioy together with Christ there being in them that which was and that wich is in Him to whom be glory for ever CGNSID LXXXII In what properly consisteth that Agony which Jesus Christ our Lord felt in his Passion and in his Death HAving oftimes heard speak of the Agony of the feare and loathing and sorrofulnesse which Jesus Christ our Lord felt in his passion and death by persons who pretended to shew the cause why Christ felt so much his sufferings and his death many other men having suffered and died some as men and some as Christians some of them without having shewed so much sence others having shewed none at all and others having made shew to rejoyce and delight themselves in their suffering and to rejoyce in their Death And never having remained satisfied in my minde neither with that which I heard say nor with that which I read in their books which handled this matter Last of all joyning that which I heard a Preacher say with that which is read in Isaia and in S. Peter I have made this resolution That God having put all our sinnes on Christ to chastize them all in him and he having taken them all upon himselfe and known them all in generall and in particular he felt for every one of them that confusion that shame and that griefe which he should have felt if he himselfe had committed them Whereupon seeing himselfe in the presence of God contaminated and defiled with so many and so abominable sinnes it came to passe that he felt all that Agony all that feare all that sorrowfulnesse within himselfe and all that shame and confusion which appertained to every one of us to have felt for every one of our sinnes had we been punished for them Whence proceeded that he sweat drops of blood in the garden for the anguish which he felt not because he saw himselfe neere unto death but to see himselfe in the presence of God full of so many sinnes for which reason he prayed putting his face to the earth as if he had been ashamed to have looked up to heaven knowing that there lay upon him so many offences committed against God And this truly is the cause why Christ shewed more sense of griefe in his Passion and in his death then any of the Martyrs that have suffered for the Gospell and then any other man of the world that hath dyed for the world And of this shame and confusion which Christ felt seeing himselfe defiled with our sinnes he may have felt some litle parcell that hath seen himselfe in the presence of some great Prince praying him for the pardon of one that hath been a Traytor he feeling the shame that belonged to the other to have felt Now that it is true that God hath laid on Christ all our sinnes and that Christ hath taken them all upon him is plain by Jsaia where he saies He took our infirmities and our griefes he suffered And a litle after he was scourged for our Rebellions and beaten for our iniquities And a litle after he took on him the sinnes of many And more then this he saith we were healed by his blewnesse of stripes And this selfe-same is proved by Saint Peter who seeling the selfesame which Isai felt saith as it were the selfe-same which Jsaiah doth And wretched man that I am for now am I well aware of the evill that I have done offending God not living according to the will of God in as much as with every one of my offences and with every one of my sinnes I have augmented the Agony the fears and the sorrowfulnesse which my Christ suffered in his death and passion Hereby I understand two most important things The one that if the rigour of the justice that was executed on Christ as well in the outward as in the inward had been executed upon