how happened it that they would send him if hee might commaund them all Had the Apostles authoritie to send him Then was not he aboue them Had they no authority Then did they abuse him which is not to be thought of so godly men as they were And howsoeuer maister Bellarmine would salue the matter in telling vs that sending doth not import alwaies a subiection in him that is sent yet if he had beene their superior it is to be thought they would rather haue desired him to take order for them of Samaria then haue sent him But I am sure the pope now would not take in good part that his colledge of Cardinals should send him about any such businesse Neither is that argument brought to prooue a subiection in him vnto them but that hee is not their ruler or that they owe him no subiection And therefore Maister Bellarmine his answere that sending doth not alwaies signifie subiection is nothing But I am wearie in spending time about his trifling cauils who though he cannot soundly refell the argumentes that are against their doctrine yet will hee not confesse the truth and so giue glorie vnto God Hauing thus examined I trust sufficiently the chiefest thinges alleadged by Maister Bellarmine concerning these two places of Scripture which especially they rest vpon I must also brieflie examine his second sort of proofes which hee promised to vse and that is grounded vpon the prerogatiues that are ascribed to Peter Wherein I shall bee the shorter because many of them are rather to make a shewe of proofe then worth alleadging The changing of his name from Simon to Peter when hee was first called prooueth not that hee was made head of the Church For hee had that name about three yeares and a halfe before they ascribe vnto him this headshippe Likewise that he is commonlie named first is a weake proofe For if that shoulde signifie his headship then shoulde it neuer haue beene placed otherwise then first but Saint Paule who knew well enough what place he should giue to Peter nameth Iames before him He walked on the waters It is true but what is out of that concluded Is hee therefore the head of the church Not so Fourthlie hee first of all knew the hie misteries of our faith say they if he did can that make him heade of the church It cannot Fiftlie it is saide the gates of hell shall not preuaile against it That is the church as the fathers teach almost with one consent and therefore that is the catholicke exposition But that which out of Origen hee alleadgeth because it is contrarie to the text and testimonie of the most of the godlie is iustlie reiected And for that they woulde prooue the supremacie because Christ saide to Peter pay for mee and thee is answered page thirty-sixe That hee praide for Peter it is not singular for hee praieth for all that the father hath giuen him If hee will confirme his brethen it is no maruell because hee that had more experience then others of his owne weakenesse is fittest to make others seeke for true strength and not to trust to their owne that will deceiue them But hee first of all the Apostles saw Christ after his resurrection what then If that maie giue the headship of the church Marie Magdalene shoulde bee the head for shee sawe Christ first yea although Peter and Iohn did runne to seeke for him yet hee woulde not appeare first vnto Peter to take away the very strength of this their argument If Christ washed the feete of Peter first if I say for it may iustly bee doubted of must that giue him the supremacy The like argument may be gathered out of that that Christ foretelleth Peter of his death Actes the first chapter and thirteenth verse And for the twelfth prerogatiue where he maketh Peter as the good man of the house to gather together into one place the companie of Disciples it is grounded vpon a fiction For there is not one word that hee gathered them But there is somewhat to bee gathered against Peters Supremacy For although hee mooued them to appoint one in Iudas his roome yet hee appointed not one as the Pope woulde very readily haue chalenged that priuiledge Not Peter but they appointed two They prayed They also gaue them lots not Peter If maister Bellarmine would reply that these actions yet must be performed by one and by likelihoode this one shoulde be Peter wee will not sticke to graunt him so much But if Peter had beene supreame head of the church heere had beene good occasion to haue named him as direttor in these actions which wee see is not done The thirteenth prerogatiue Peter first preached after the receiuing of the holieghost This maketh not him Supreame head And herein the Popes can not claime to bee Peters successours Hee wrought the first myracle but the text ioyneth Iohn with Peter which shoulde not haue beene doone if it had beene any argument for Peters supremacie to haue it thought that hee wrought the first miracle For the fifteenth prerogatiue commeth the destruction of Ananias and Saphira which was by that power that GOD gaue not to Peter onely but to them all Marke the sixeteenth chapter and seuenteenth and eighteenth verses yea and also vnto Saint Paul although hee were not one of the twelue For euen by the same power Paule cast out of a maide a spirite of diuination and healed the father of Publius that lay sicke of a feuer and a flixe and strooke Elymas with blindenesse healed one borne Iame at Lystra The sixteenth prerogatiue is taken out of the ninth chapter of the Actes of the Apostles where Peters diligence in preaching is commended in that hee trauelled throughout all quarters Which the Popes friends for very shame should neuer haue spoken of For if so bee that his diligence be an argument of his supremacie as they faine would make it then why is not the Popes supine negligence in that function as strong an argument against this Supremacie Wee will admit although it iustly may be doubted of that which is the ground of this seuenteenth prerogatiue that Peter first did preach vnto the Gentiles And must that needs prooue that hee is therefore head of the church I am sure that master Bellarmine himselfe will confesse that it is no necessarie argument But prayer was made without ceasing vnto God for him It is a token that the Church seeing the persecution that nowe beganne against the godly and that Peter also a woorthy minister of the worde and a great apostle was in danger was very carefull for his preseruation But this doeth not prooue him to be the head of the church no more then the care that the godly had ouer Saint Paule Actes the seuenteenth chapter and tenth verse in sending him away to Berea by night for his better safety or letting him downe by
by the doctrine of the church of Rome be gainsaide without danger of heresie so long as man hath not approued the same The lessons I perceiue that God teacheth vs must not bee counted the doctrines of the church vntill the bishop of Rome or some councill haue set downe some order therein Well howsoeuer the wise maisters of Rome will define what shall be heresie yet I trust they will graunt that hee erred in iudgement because he taught then that which not only the scriptures gainesay but euen the papistes themselues will confesse to be erronious But what should I stand in particular examples If it bee true that both Melchior Canus and Bellarmine confesse especially Canus that both the seuenth and the eight sinodes did condemne as an hereticke Honorius the pope doth it not appeare manifestly thereby that they made no doubt whether a pope might erre or not It is not a question amongst them they heare of his doctrine they condemne it as erronious Neither did Formosus his friends vse any such argument to hinder Steuen his cruell dealings against Formosus or Steuens friends to mitigate the rage of Iohn the tenth against Steuen they saide not thus Formosus was a pope and Steuen was a pope they cannot erre No it is a doctrine of later growth and of a newer stamp Maister Bellarmine answereth that those two councels that are before mentioned did thinke that the pope as a priuate man might erre Wherein although he consent not with himselfe who thinketh that he cannot erre as before I said yet would he thereby if he could take away the strength of the argument But he laboureth all in vaine for how doth it appeare that the councels thought of any such matter There is no shew no likelihoode of it No wordes to induce him so to thinke As for that which he saith of Honorius his letters that they condemned him of heresie because of that which they found in his letters I maruell maister Bellarmine hath so soone forgotten himselfe as to alleadge it Seeing himselfe in the beginning of the eleuenth chapter doth first doubt of the credit of those letters and secondlie he denieth that any error is in the same contained Doeth maister Bellarmine thinke the fathers of those councels to haue beene so simple that they could not iudge of Honorius his writings whether they were hereticall or not aswell as himselfe Or will he imagine that they were so rash that they would condemne him without cause If he in his epistles had no errour as maister Bellarmine affirmeth almost in the beginning of his eleuenth chapter why doth he heere affirme that for his epistles and the heresies which therein he maintained he was condemned of those councels If he were an hereticke as by very many testimonies it doth appeare why doth maister Bellarmine seeke so to free him from that fault and to take from him that staine Euen because he would as wel as he can defend that most vntrue doctrine of the church of Rome that the pope cannot erre And yet their owne law supposeth that the pope may erre and confesseth that for heresie he may be reproued But in this as almost in euery point wherein they dissent from vs they shew how little they are in deed according to their name that they woulde faine be called by For they call themselues catholickes as if the doctrine that they teach or beleeue were catholicke that is vniuersâ—allie receiued And yet in this controuersie they are not agreed how to defend it or what to say of it Gerson of Paris Almain Alphonsus all of them papistes and pope Adrian the sixt himselfe are of one mind Albert Pighius an other papist of an other Bellarmine and his maisters make a third sect And yet these men reproue vs for difference in opinion bragge of their owne vnity and must needs be thought to haue a catholike faith But to conclude seeing the giftes of the spirite whether of sanctification or of truth are giuen vnto men according to measure and not in fulnes for to Christ only God giueth the spirite not by measure and therefore he speaketh without errour Gods words seeing that pope Adrian the sixt hath assured vs that popes may erre and we haue it plainely recorded in their owne histories and confessed by many of themselues that they haue erred lastly seeing they haue been euen by councils condemned of heresie and their owne lawe prouideth and taketh order for popes that doe erre and the Church of Rome is not yet resolued how to defend the cantrarie we may I trust hauing so good warant euen from their owne frends without any note of heresie affirme that popes may erre Yea what is there in them but errour They wander out of the wayes of truth and of godlinesse So that in that accursed companie we may see that to be most true that where there is a boundance of sinne there God iustly may and often times in his iudgements doth cast such into the deepth of errour that they who had no desire to liue according to the light that did shine vnto them in seruing the Lord in true holinesse should be cast into the dungeon of ignorance as vnworthie to inioy that light which they so vnthankefully refused of that grace which they so wickedly abused The matter then being thus that neither Peter had any such iurisdiction ouer the whole church as is claimed by the church of Rome neither if he had it he could or for any euidence that yet is shewed he did bequeathe it to the Romish church and lastly seeing that church if any such priuiledge had beene lawfully to her deuolued hath committed such things as would haue forfeted a better right then euer shee had in that vniuersall authoritie it doth I trust appeare to the indifferent Reader that their claime is vniust their title false and that they haue no colour of interest from Christ whose ouely possession that is that they would haue But it is no new thing in the church of Rome to bring in false euidence to prooue a forged claime They did so in the council of Carthage when by vntrue copies of the council of Nice they sought the soueraignty ouer all other churches For Alipius a bishop in that council affirmeth twise that they could not find in the decrees of the Nicen councill any such thing as they aleaged for the authoritie of the Bishop of Rome Nouatus also another bishop saith we reade no such thing in the Nicen councill The fathers therefore of that council did decree that messengers should be sent to Constantinople Alexandria and Antioch as Alipius had inoued them to get the true copies For they hauing read many bookes of the council of Nice yet could neuer read in any latine or yet in any Greeke copies that they had that which the bishop of Rome his legat did alleage To trie the truth therfore they sent and sought that they
that it is dangerous to speake the truth of him But his meaning is that our weaknes and wants will not let vs so speake of him as we should And the popes feare is that if we speake truth of him we must speake otherwise then he would haue vs or were for his honesty Nowe bishops hauing their tongues and pens thus bridled who durst venture to finde any fault If for them to speak the truth be periury what should it be thought in others And thus because he saw that to haue the truth of popes doings known it would be a burning shame he full wisely laieth this blocke in that way and thus maketh vp that gappe And after commeth in to serue their turne that fulnesse of authority and power of the keies which they would so seeme to haue from Christ as that none but they should rule that sterne none but they should haue that iurisdiction So that if they curse none can blesse if they excommunicate none may absolue if they binde no man may loose Wherein they challenge so great priuiledge that they can worke thereby against the law of God the lawe of nature the law of nations They can if you will that they will tell you release the subiectes from the bond of obedience which they owe to their magistrates and the children they can cause to rebell against their parents A perilons practise is this for all princes estates thus to lead the people on the blind side as to make them beleeue that to rebel is to obey and to dishonour their superiours is an acceptable sacrifice to God By these their powerfull keies they also open the dore of immunities and priuiledges of the clergy whereby they are exempt from all corrections and punishmentes vnlesse forsooth it please his holines to deliuer them to the secular power to make them his hangmen But of their owne authority they may not touch him because they are say they the Lordes annointed By which meanes they grew to great sawcines and the state was not a little indangered thereby in many places They had also another practise to maintaine their pride and hold them in their high seate That is auricular confession or that which we call shrift For vnder colour of being ghostly fathers the Popes subtill and sworne friendes had accesse to princes had conference with their counsellours had knowledge of their secrets had opportunity to practise with their false and faithlesse subiectes and they might and did take al occasions by terrifying the consciences of princes in respect of their sinnes which they made knowne to them as if there were no hope of mercy at the hands of God if first they were not reconciled to the Holy Father the Pope and the holy mother the Church of Rome And thus were they euery way distressed their consciences being intangled and their estates indangered But one of their most subtill shiftes was the taking away of knowledge from the people Whereby they became as men that walked in the darke in an vnknowne way They neuer knewe whether they did right or wrong They knew not their own duty They were taught to beleeue as the church beleeued Now although they heard much of the church of Rome yet for the most parte they were not acquainted with it So that the church that must be their direction must be their parson or vicar or perchance their bishop Who if he would leade them out of the way they must needs go wrong Because their light of knowledge was quite put out The Scriptures were either quite taken from them and mens dreames and deuises deliuered to the lay people insteede of them or els they were so corrupted with foolish gloses and so mingled with mens traditions that the true sence and meaning of them was stil vnder a bushell so that it gaue no light at all to them Nowe they not knowing their duty which God had commaunded them to performe to magistrates howe easily might they be drawen aside from the same Yea they through ignorance not beeing able to put a difference betweene trueth and falsehoode howe readily might they be moued to thinke it to be true that they doe say vnto them who were onely reputed and taken for holy Church that the Pope is Christes Vicar that he is so much more excellent then any worldly potentate as the soule is better then the body that there is no lesse difference betweene the glory of the Emperour and the pope then is betweene the brightnesse of the Sunne and of the Moone The pope being like the Sunne and the Emperour compared to the. Moone which hath her light from the Sunne These and other such like blasphemies against the maiesty whome God hath placed vpon earth were accompted good doctrine and strong proofes through want of knowledge And this very effect that ignorance did worke whereby the very brokers for the church of Rome did see themselues and their masters esteemed halfe as Gods and their messages receiued more readily and more constantly kept and more willingly obeied then gods word by a great deale made them to proclaime so lowde and so stiffly to maintaine that ignorance is the mother of deuotion And why should they not when they see that princes are readye by reason of their ignoraunce in Gods trueth to be led and guided by such blind guides euen to the hazarding of their kingdoms And the people therby are withdrawen from al duty so that they may leade both prince and people as Elisha led the Syrians euen into their enemies hands And as this ignorance hath beene a great cause that the pope hath mightily preuailed and aduaunced his seate farre higher than became one of his coate and yet his pride was neuer spied of many euen so at this day for want of knowledge the people are most easily drawen to worship euen the very name of Holy Father and to sucke the breasts of the holy mother the Romish church Whose doctrines if they could examine whose spirites if they coulde trie whose horrible blasphemies against Gods trueth and vnnaturall cruelties against Gods saints if they could with indifferent iudgement consider of if I say the Lord in mercy would vouchsafe them that knowledge they would euen hate the name of a Romish catholike and feare to be of that company and crew that so plainely and stubburnely reiecteth Gods commaundement despiseth Gods magistrates deceiueth Gods people and leadeth them in the waies of death and damnation There are also some other meanes and practises whereby the popes drawe the people into great admiration of them Namely their pardons and indulgences their agnus Dei and such other trash and trumpery whereby they perswade the simple ones that they can effectually and really pardon their sinnes which is Gods office onely take away their iniquities deliuer them from damnation and shield them from all euill And who would not giue all that he hath if he
and yet there may be an other vnder him Donatus might as well haue claimed to be that husband then that the pope doth claime now to be But it was not then known that one honest woman might haue two husbands Chrysostome asso and Theophilact and all the ancient fathers make Christ the onely husband yea and Chrysostome thinketh that he needeth fauourably to interpret that that Iohn calleth himselfe the friend of the bridegroome shewing that he meant not thereby to make himselfe equall to Christ but only to expresse the greatnes of his ioy For a friend reioiceth more then a seruant What would he haue said then to these sawcy mates who thinke too base a thing for them to be but friends to the bridegroome but the bridegroome and they must haue all one wife I cannot therfore maruel much at their flattering lawyers that wil make the pope and Christ to haue but one consistory or seat of iudgement Marke I pray you the vicar before his parson the pope before Christ The pope and Christ make but one consistory But this I take to be somewhat tolerable If they both haue but one wife they may sit in one seat But I muse that master Bellarmine with great silence doth passe ouer one of the names that y e pope is now best known by and is more ancient then many of the names that he speaketh of the seruant of Gods seruants Which name they learned of Gregory the first to giue themselues It may be that master Bellarmine was ashamed his master should come so neere in name to wicked Ham first called seruant of seruants or that he seeth all their doings so directly contrary to y t name that he thinketh it not a name due to them or fit for them For what mockery is it to write themselues seruants of Gods seruants perchance sometime in the selfe same letters wherein they will command controll correct condemne the mightiest monarches vnder heauen Gregory would thereby haue taught them modestie humility meeknes and such other christian vertues yea and also a painefull diligence for the good of the church as if in all things they should carefully seek not their own profit or preferment but Gods glory and the benefit of Gods people for seruants worke not for themselues but for their master They keeping still the name by that outward profession of lowlinesse and industry seeke to cast a mist before the eies of the ignorant that they shall not see them when they shew themselues in truth so proude and presumptuous againe all men so lither and loytering in their pastorall functiō as if they were enimies to mankind and had no care at al of their owne duty But now let vs see to what end M. Bellarmine doth intitle the B. of Rome to those names of Head Pope vniuersall Bishop Christs vicar Father and Bridegroome euen to this end that he may prooue him to haue the charge of the whole church I on the other side shew that these are not his titles they are not his ornaments they belong to Christ most of them and only to him if the be vnderstoode in peculiar sorte as master Bellarmine would haue them They may be giuen after some sort to all pastors But the B. of Rome cannot abide to be but like others he must be sigular and fellowlesse or else nothing can content him Therefore I out of these names which hee so chalengeth to himselfe do prooue his pride and presumption aboue men thus to extoll himselfe so excessiuely aboue others yea and blasphenues against Christ thus to wring from him his office and priuileges and to make the world to beleeue they are his owne And this is one of the effects that followed of this fulnesse of power which by little and little as before I shewed the Pope aspired and attained vnto And euer as he grew in power so did he in pride also vntil he could not tell how to call himselfe or what name he should giue himselfe that his greatnesse thereby might sufficiently be expressed yet all these proude titles coulde not satisfie or content the proude humour of many of these Popes but that they grew to farther impiety and greater if greater may be For as in these names they made the whole church to be not Christs but as it were their owne inheritance and their owne house with which and wherein they thought they might do as themselues would and they incroched also exceedingly vpon Christ his right so at the length they came to that contempt of God and godlines that their parasites would giue vnto them and they could be content to take the honour that was due to God only They wil not so much as leaue to God his name but euen that is bestowed vpon the pope To beleeue saith one that our lord god the pope could not do this thing is to be counted heresie And another saith When the pope dissolueth a marriage it must be thought to be Gods doing onely because the pope being chosen according to the cannons is god vpon earth And another Innocentius the third The Pope heere vpon earth supplieth the roome not of pure man but of a true God And lest it should be thought that the Canonists did giue more honour vnto the pope herein then hee was content to take upon him pope Nicholas himselfe doeth claime for him and his seate great immunitie and freedome because the good emperour Constantine saieth he did call the pope god And yet this holy father playeth but the crafty mate for that Constantine did speake of al bishops alluding to that I haue said ye are gods And God standeth in the assemblie of gods and iudgeth among gods the prophet speaking there of Princes and Iudges that doeth hee applie to himselfe alone Whosoeuer readeth that which is alleadged out of an Epistle of Gregorie vnto Mauritius the Emperour shall find this false dealing of Pope Nicholas to make himselfe a god after som other sort then Constantine there calleth al bishops gods The Iewes were superstitious so as they durst not name that name of God Iehouah for feare of offending that great god The popes are sawcie that make no scruple at all to take to themselues that name of the which we ought not to speake or thinke but with great reuerence Whether nowe are the honester the Iewes or the Pope The Iewes were too scrupulous But the Popes yet that haue cast off all reuerence of the maiestie of God are farre more blame worthy And this very name as I suppose that they called themselues gods did so imbolden some of them to set so little by God As for example Pope Iulius not the second that was the lustie warriour but the third that filthie beast if Stories doe speaketh truely of him He loueth porke very well and when by the commandement of his phisition porke was not serued at his table being angrie for it one
supremacie ouer bishops although this heaâ— was too too feruent that the patriarch for this popes pride should haue his eies burnt out then he was to hold fast aud to increase daily that authoritie which by most impdent and vngodly meanes hee had gotten not onely ouer all princes and kings but euen ouer the Emperour himselfe the greatest monarch that is in all christendome The emperour had wont in the primitiue churches to haue a great saying in the chosing of bishops especially such as were bishops of Rome as all histories make mention and is more euident then that it needeth proofe and more plaine then that it may be doubted of But when the popes came to their ouer great authoritie they began somewhat more boldly to take vpon them to occupie that roome without leaue of the Emperour Adrian the first therefore being B. of Rome and hee thinking himselfe much beholding to Charles the great for defending him and his church from the violence of enemies did in a council holden at Rome by the emperor and the pope make this vniuersall decree that the emperour should haue right to chuse the pope and to order the apostolike seat and to haue the dignitie or preheminence of principalitie I would all our English papists and specially the fugitiue traitours that would for this cause make the happy and quiet gouernment which England hath vnder our most gratious princesse a long time comfortably inioyed because we giue vnto her maiestie the title of sumacie seeme odiuos to others and vnlawfull to our selues I would I say they would marke what pope Adrian and the vniuersall council for so doth Sigebert there call it doe yeeld to Charles the great then emperour that he should haue the principality and supremacie And further it is there decreed that the archbishop and bishop through euery prouince shall be inuested by him and that no man shall be once so bold as to consecrate him whome the king doth not commend and institute and that vpon paine of excommunication And if hee reforme not himselfe his goods to be forfeited and himselfe to be banished A necessary Lawe doubtlesse for our dayes both in respect of the lawe it selfe and also in regard of the punishment which is to be layed vpon offendours And the more to be accounted of because it is deâ—ised by such as I hope they will not saie can erre or cannot say they seeke their bloud Wel notwithstanding this decree set downe by councill as you haue hard Steuen the fourth bishop of Rome and next but one to this Adrian the first who by a conucil coÌ„firmed to the emperour this authoritie doth not onely debar the emperour for medling in election of the pope but also accurseth all them that by the emperours consent do obtaine any church And for the lowder proclaming of his pride most lewdly hee compareth his vniust and rash desanulling of that iust decree made by Adrian and the council with Ezechias his godly abolishing of the high places the serpent and such other things as were idolatrously abused by the Israelltes He alone I say without a council reuoketh that which the council had commaunded Pope Paschalis the first succeeding this Steuen had not the consent of the emperour and therefore sent his embassadours vnto the emperour Lodouike to excuse the matter and to make him beleeue that he was forced by the clergie and people to take the popedome on him The emperorbeing of a very mild nature yet willing to retaine that priuiledge willed them not afterward to informe the emperours authoritie but to keepe in their election the decrees of their elders Now the emperour being forced for the repression of some that rebelled against him to send Lotharius his sonne into Italy there to remaine Paschalis the pope inuested the said Lotharius in the empire But hee being gone to his father into Fraunce for greater aid some of his most trusty frends were in the meane time killed euen in the palace of Lateran their eies first put out onely because they were fast and faithfull to Lotharius The pope was commonly supposed to be guiltie or at the least to be acquainted with this outragious dealing of the Romans And although by other he denied the fact yet did he acquite them that had done that deede and pronounced them that were slaine to haue beene guiltie of treason But howsoeuer it was the emperour seeing belike the popes wholy bent to depriue him vtterly of any consent in the election of the pope doth himselfe yeeld it into their hands making it lawfull for the popes to take that place vpon them being chosen by the clargie and people of Rome without the emperours consent not long after him commeth Nicholas the first who seing the emperour so easily to be chrust from his right which was euen by the bishop of Rome in a council giuen to him in electing of the pope thought hee would incroach somewhat further and doth wholy debar him of hauing any thing to doe or being at or in their council vnlesse it be when matters of faith be in handling And further he did decree to cut his power yet shorter that no lay man whatsoeuer should somuch as iudge of Priests or enquire how they liue And although Nicholas the first durst not as yet goe plainlie to worke but rather by craftie meanes sought to diminish the Emperours power yet within lesse than thirtie yeares after it was decreed by Adrian the third that the Emperours consent should not he regarded in electing the Bishop of Rome but the voices or election of the Cleargie and people therein should be free Now by this exemption which the Romans had from the Emperour that hee had nothing to doe in their elections as they were without feare of his displeasure so were they without care of doing in their elections as they ought and by that means preferred many vnworthie of that place Wherefore pope Leo the eight in a Synod holden at Rome did decree that Otho then Emperour and his successours after him should elect not the pope onely but also the chiefe officers of Rome or bishops and that onelie with his consent these must be counted lawfull And if any shall goe about to infringe this decree he is excommunicate If he continue therein he shall be perpetually banished or haue extreame punishment How long this decree was kept which was nowe by two Councils at Rome and by two popes Adrian the first decreed this Leo the eight confirmed it is not certaine But I am sure that not long after it was accounted simonie for anie man to take anie bishopricke or benefice being instituted thereto by anie lay man And this was especially laboured by Hildebrand as soone as euer hee came to haue any thing to doe for the popes that the Emperour or lay men should haue nothing to doe in the election of the pope And because alreadie two
promotions that he was possessed of vnto others their voices and so was made pope Though he was of so bad disposition as that Ferdinand king of Naples though he were neuer seem to weepe at the death of any of his children when he heard that he was chosen pope wept and with teares said to his wife that hee would be a great enemy not to Italy only but eueÌ„ to al christendome And thus doth Guicciardine and Italian describe him that there was in that man no sincerity shame truth faith religion but insaciableauarice immoderate ambition more then barbarous cruelty a most earnest desire to aduaunce by any meanes his children that were not few som of them as bad as their father Is not this thinke you a popelike prelate Did not the cardinals that sold their voyces to make him pope find out a holy father to sit in that chaire And such are O ye papists such are too too many of the heads of your church of Rome of later yeares But to returne For I haue a litle disgressed to shew his canonicall entrance and his popelike vertues If he entred not by poysening yet he did practise it very much And hee had a sonne Valentine a bastard as hee had many sixe children in all Platina speaketh of who was first made cardinall by his father yet afterwards he turned his cote and became a duke His father and he minding to sup in a garden where the sonne also purposed to poyson Adrian a cardinall that ought the garden this Valentine sent thether bottels of poysoned wine with charge that none should drinke thereof before himselfe came But the pope his father being drie called for wine And because none was brought from the popes pallice Valentines seruaÌ„t giueth to the pâ—pe of that wine thinking his master had forbidden that any should drinke thereof because it was some principall wine As the pope was drinking his sonne Valentine commeth in his father giueth to him of the same wine The father died of the same Wee may note in him Gods iust iudgement For the pope and his sonne did vse to poyson many not so much for reuenge or in respect of their safetie to dispatch so their enemies although euen that is but a cowardly vilanie but to get their goods although they neuer wronged them As the rich cardinall of Saint Angelo Yea euen their dearest frends if they were rich they would serue so as they did the cardinals of Capua and Mantua But that kind of death that they had brought many vnto the pope himselfe then tasted of and the sonne very hardly escaped but his being sicke at that time was a meruelous ouerthrow of his estate Yea we see how they that were conspirers together to poyson many did now shew their skill one vpon another The sonne poysoning the father for he sent the poysoned bottels And the father poysoning the son for he gaue him poyson to drinke And so where some other by poysoning their predecessours made roome for themselues Alexander the sixth by poysoning himselfe made roome for another And if they thinke none of these practises sure enough then will they fall downe and worship him who when he had shewed Christ all the kingdomes of the worlde and the glorie thereof he said to him though they are not his to giue all these will I giue thee if thou wilt fall downe and worship me Platina himselfe who is loth to speake the woorst by Popes vnlesse the truth thereof be so plaine that it cannot well bee denied reporteth of Siluester the second that he gaue himselfe to the diuell vpon condition the diuell would make him Pope Must it not needes be a good head of the Church that is of the diuels owne chusing Cardinall Benno writeth the like also of Iohn the ninteenth who came next after Siuester and of Benedict the 9 who as he saith was by the diuell choked in a wood But I of purpose let passe many of these examples For I haue beene much longer then I had purposed in these practises of the popes to get into this chaire If I should come to the election of popes in these our times is it not as easie to see as the sunne at noon day that there is almost none chosen to that seat but by fauour briberie suite or to please and pleasure some princes or in respect of some faction Is not this the spêciall care that they haue in their elections who is fittest to maintaine their owne pride and most likelie to serue their owne turne Are all their popes chosen now canonically without respect of any thing but to chuse the fittest If the greatest friends that the Romish church hath were so shamelesse that they would say so yet their owne heart within them would tell them that they lie Well then if to bee thrust into that place by others or to intrude themselues if to get it by fighting and brawling by poisoning and killing by bitter contention and strife by craft and falshood by briberie and gifts by murthering and mischiefe To bee short if to climbe into it by helpe of the diuell and by such horrible wickednesse as Christian eares cannot well endure to heare be to enter in at the doore and to be chosen canonically then we will confesse that mame of the popes haue entered well But if this be to come as a theefe and a murtherer then what meaneth the church of Rome so to â—â—ag of their succession which euen by their owne lawes set downe a little before hath so often and so notoriously beene interrupted What meane these factours and brokers for Simon Magus that briber and sorcerer to vauat themselues to be successuors to Simon Peter These are such heads as the church of Rome can affoord vs. These are they that we must call most holy fathers These euen these are they that cannot erre if you will trust the church of Rome And yet in all that they doe there is nothing but erring out of the right way They are like men that pretending to shoote at a marke turne their backe of it and shoote the cleane contrarie way And as they are content to vse any meanes be it neuer so vnlawfull to get into that seat so when they are gotten once into it they are become lawlesse and shamelesse as by some examples shall be shewed Honorius the third did very sawcely oppose himselfe against the emperour Fredericke the second as also did some other of his felowes and did excommunicate him and depriued him of his imperiall dignitie And Bale telleth vs that the cause why the pope delt so hardly with him was for that he defended his owne right in Apulia and Cicily And out of Marius he reporteth that the pope did maintaine and cherish certaine of the emperours rebels and seditious subiects so that the emperour could not punish them as they deserued The names of those traiters were Mathew and Thomas who kept
a windowe in a basket when hee was in great danger in Damascus doth prooue Paule to hee the head of the church Of the nineteenth I haue spoken before pag. 10. The twenteenth prerogatiue Paule went to Hierusalem to see Peter What must he therefore needes be head of the church Belike then for the three yeares wherein he sawe him not but went preaching into Arabia and to Damascus he confessed him not to be head but as if he had forgoten himselfe all this while hee now at the last yeldeth him seme reuerence But if he had done it in any such respect he would and should at 〈…〉 before he had taken his office vpon him haue had Peters alowance And thus much concerning Peters priuileges or prerogatiues which they alleage out of Gods booke Which although many of them are euident arguments of excellent graces that God had bestowed vpon him and great mercies which God shewed to him yet if master Bellarmine or any other will out of them conclude Peters supremacie the weaknesse of his argument will be seene of very children But yet because before he made Peters prerogatiues his second proofe of this his supremacie I haue thought it necessarie to reckon them for other confutation of them needeth not that all may see what weak proofes they doe bring for this their chiefe point of doctrine As for the other eight prerogatiues they are not worth speaking of Both because we may iustly doubt of the truth of many of them as being proued but by fabulous writings and also because if they were true it were not matteriall for the point in question And therefore letting them alone as rotten propes which will fall in pieces of themselues if any weight be layed vpon them I hasten to his third proofe that hee promised And that is out of the fathers And herein it is needles to examine euerie particular testimony Onely I will set downe in what sense the fathers truly may and often doe ascribe vnto Saint Peter many excellent titles that thereby examining the fathers and finding them to keepe within the bounds of gods word we may with reuerēce receiue them But if they passe those lists I trust master Bellarmine and al his friends will beare with vs if we reiect the doctrine of men as himselfe in this very booke before refuseth the iudgement of Origene and Theophilact and of others in other places First therefore this word in latine primatus which wee now call Supremacie but indeede doth signifie that I may make such a word Firstnesse is ascribed vnto Peter of the fathers in respect of time as in the place alleaged here out of Ciprian neither Peter saith Ciprian whom the Lord chose first and vpon whom he did build his church whereas Paul did afterward reason of circumcision did boast himselfe or did take vpon him any thing insolently or proudly saying he had the primacy and that new ones and aftercommers shall rather obay him him This place is alleadged by master Bellarmine often to proue Peters supremacy or iurisdiction ouer others But the wordes are very plaine that Cyprian speaketh of his being first not in dignity but in tune as appeareth not onely in that he saith he was first chosen but also by the wordes of newe ones or after-commers But maister Bellarmine wil say that Andrew was chosen before him to be an apostle and therefore that Cyprian was deceiued if so he meant It may so be For men may erre But the question is not nowe whether Cyprians iudgement herein be true or not but vpon what occasion or in what respect Cyprian giueth Peter the primacy which is most plainly in this place set downe to be in respect of time And so may other of the fathers in this respect vse this word and giue him this title And sometime this title of primacy is giuen vnto him in regarde of some excellent thinges that he was indued withall by reason whereof his fellowes and brethren amongst themselues and the fathers after might giue vnto him some kinde of reuerence in name or otherwise But this wil do no good for proofe of popish supremacy For they doe hold that Peter in his owne right and by that iurisdiction which by Gods word he hath is head of the church and hath the supremacy aboue all other We say that because of his gifts of zeale knowledge constancy or boldnes he was admitted and allowed to speake and to doe many things but that in his owne right he was but equall with the rest and as he calleth himselfe a fellowe elder with them that were meaner then apostles Therefore to be a chiefe man or a head man among them is not to prooue him to haue iurisdiction ouer them In all corporations or fellowships as aldermen in citties although in regarde of that place they are alike none more or lesse an alderman then another yet among them some are better esteemed of euen of themselues because of their learning wisedome dexterity in gouernement credit power or wealth not because they can in right claime it but because other doe for such things as they see in them yeelde it vnto them not that they haue power ouer them but onely they are of good accompt among them And thus much to proue that that is not sufficient which maister Bellarmine saith will serue the turne to proue that the fathers say that Peter was head or had primacy ouer y e church For neither his estimation in respect of his gifts neither if by voluntary subiection they did submit themselues vnto him it can proue him to haue right to rule ouer them And this they must proue or els they gaiue nothing to their cause that Peter by the word of God hath authority ouer the whole church and ouer the apostles And therefore it maketh no great matter what men say of Peters authority but how truely they grounde their sayings vpon Gods word And thus I trust it appeareth to the indifferent reader that the minor proposition of that argument which I haue set downe in the end of my answere vnto maister Bellarmine ninth chapter of this booke wherein consisteth the great strength of the popish Monarchy is not agreeable vnto the truth or catholike doctrine howsoeuer that church of Rome reioiceth in that title that is none of hers thereby deceiuing the world as if all that shee taught were sound and catholike The proposition is this that Christ gane iurisdiction vnto Peter ouer the vniuersal church The chiefest profes that either they all haue or that maister Bellarmine can alleadge is out of Saint Matthew the xvi where they say this iurisdiction is promised and Saint Iohn xxi where they say it is giuen which their interpretation as I haue shewed cannot stand with the text it selfe or the interpretations of the sounder fathers His second reason which consisteth of the prerogatiues which Saint Peter had is grounded either vpon