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A10967 An historical dialogue touching antichrist and poperie, drawen and published for the common benefit and comfort of our church in these dangerous daies, & against the desperate attemptes of the vowed aduersaries of Iesus Christ, his gospell, and this florishing state. by Thomas Rogers. Allowed by auctoritie. Rogers, Thomas, d. 1616. 1589 (1589) STC 21237; ESTC S112075 54,518 126

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be God fareth well Z. That Sir Francis Drake was either taken or slaine T. Yet hee was neither taken or slaine but tooke and slew a great nomber and since by the power and goodnes of the Almighty hath slaine and taken and stil doth both take and slaie them Z. That we fled from comming to the battel T. And yet wee chased the Spaniardes as à brace of Greyhoundes would an heard of Deere and whipped them as à man will whip bond-slaues and as vagabondes are whipt about à towne so whipped we them about England and Scotland Z. That of our ships 20. yea 22. were sunke and 15. yea 26. yea 40. taken T. And yet so farre were wee from loosing fortie that wee lost not one yea so farre from loosinge à Shippe that wee lost not so much as à boate nor à Ship-mast Z. That many of our men were slaine and drowned à nomber taken prisoners T. Yet can they name neither do we know any man of marke and reputation that was slaine nor any man what soeuer that came as prisoner into their handes For all are liuing and praest by Gods fauour to aduenture their liues as cheerfully as euer they did for hir Maiestie when shee shall commaunde them Z. This of all is most wonderfull that they no way and wee euerie way were fortunate that their hartes shoulde be taken from them and new courage be put into vs that so manie of their Shippes should be lost and not so much as one boate nor mast of ours from the first to the last to perish that in one day fiue thousand of them and not in nine daies so much as one man to count-of on our side should bee slaine that in a few daies à thousande of theirs should be taken prisoners and not one man of ours come into their handes that their so famous an armie and Armado should by Heauen by Earth by water by fire perish for a great part and ours be preserued and remaine whole sound either to goe against them to their greater ruine or to encounter with any forreine forces that shal assaile vs T. He that seeth not à speciall regard of God towardes vs as to the deere spouse of Christ ward and an angrie countenaunce on th'other side against the Church of Rome as vpon the whore of Babilon described by S. Iohn is verie blind Z. So is he Chap. 14. Of a great desolation at hand of the Papal kingdome gathered from the consideration of thinges past and present TIMOTHIE And I trust the obseruation of these thinges will draw them on who are not so wel affected to that religiō which is from aboue ZELOTES I hope so too I wish it and manie argumentes I haue inducing me to thinke that some more notable ouerthrow the Pope shal againe sustaine ere long it bee T. May I not be priuie vnto some of them Z. It is written that Iupiters priestes in Meroe had with superstition so bewitched the peoples mindes that when soeuer they gaue commaundement men would lay violent hands vpon the kings and gouernors of Aethiopia and put them to the sword T. Who but heareth this and doth not abhorre the same be he indued but with common humanitie Z. Then no doubt poperie which both teacheth defendeth and practiseth euen the murthering of Gods annointed the Kinges Princes and gouernors of Christendome must needes vniuersallie become odious T. Hasten the same for thy names sake O most righteous God Z. At length those Iupiters Priestes by à Prince of an heroicall courage were themselues euen all of them put to the sword and their auctoritie gouernmēt and priesthood quite rooted out and ouerthrowen T. Euen so declare thy iustice iudgmētes mightie God wee beseech thee vpon Baals Priestes of Rome and vpon the whole papacie no whit inferior in impietie to Th' aethiopian priestes Z. That Prince that so rooted them out was hight Erganes The name of him that alreadie hath giuen the deadly blow vnto the state of Poperie in England was one entituled euen by the pope himselfe The defender of the Faith since for his magnanimity and power in suppressing Gods enimies iustlie termed The hāmer of Papistes euen K. Henry the eight of most famous memorie T. O that other Countries and territories yet vnder the Papal iurisdiction had either such Erganes as Aethiopia or such Henries as England had Z. It is deliuered that Italie is fatall to the Polonians T. What then Z. And it is crediblie thought also that the name of Henrie seemeth fatal to the Papacie T. What the Henries shalbe God onelie knoweth and man cannot define but what aduersaries the Henries haue bin and stil are at this houre to the Papacie al the world doth know and the present state of France doth affoord memorable examples in their excommunicate Henries Z. But whosoeuer the persons shalbe for state or name and how vnlikelie in the iudgement of manie to distroy the Popedome sure I am the miserable condition of our euen Christians doth require and the instant supplications of all Gods people euerie where do also craue call for à speedie reformation and they cannot be in vaine T. There is nothing impossible to God Z. Sainct Paul some-time was an enemie of the Church and with commission was sent and went also to murther and persecute the sainctes of God and yet he proued à most zealous constāt preacher of the word afterward himselfe suffered much for the cause of Christ and of an hipocriticall Pharisie became à true professor T. The example is notable Z. We haue mo Paules than one we praise God For Petrus Paulus Vergerius also in his last age à Cardinal of Rome an Embassador of the Popes sent and sent againe for his rare wisedome and faithfulnes in all the Popes affaires into Germanie and Naples vnto the Emperor and that for the rooting-out of Gods people vnder the name of Lutherans an heauy accuser of declining papistes and an earnest writer against such as reuolted frō the Romish faith himselfe in th'end all this notwithstanding forsooke his professiō left his dignities renounced al his spiritual promotions the Pope and Italie and became à zealous preacher and professor of the Gospel of our Sauiour Christ T. And such thankes be to God we heare of now and then Z. Litle did Martin Luther thinke whē first hee opposed him selfe against the Popes pardons to haue bin the subuertor of the whole Religion of Poperie as litle also did King Henrie the eight whē first he delt in that case of diuorcement thinke to haue bin the banisher of the popes auctoritie out of England T. So manie there be now as man thinketh the Popes sure frends which may proue his enimies and they which are his vpholders and protectors now may throw him downe hereafter Z. King Henrie