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A18926 Theologicall axioms or conclusions publikly controuerted, discussed, and concluded by that poore English congregation, in Amstelredam: to whome H.C. for the present, ad-ministreth the ghospel. Togither with an examination of the saide conclusions, by Henoch Clapham. Here-vnto is added a litle tractate entituled. The carpenter. Clapham, Henoch. 1597 (1597) STC 5346; ESTC S117152 42,593 52

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take vnto it the Bodie And in this sence our Iesus saith He will lay downe his lyfe or body and then by the other Nature distinguished not mixed he will take it vp againe And so when the Iues had cast downe the Temple of his body loe by the other distinct nature he raised it vp againe Let our Poly-baptist for shame therfore leaue of to mix the natures for making vp a Christ that is neither God nor Man Our Anabaptisticall Maniches they start out cryinge Mulier non habet semen the ●emall hath no seede or else if the woman haue feede yet of Mary he cold assume no seede but such as was sinfull To the first what shold I say The woomans seede shal breake the serpents head Gen. 3. This they say is not spoken of Christ but of his mysticall body Beastly spirits hath not the Apostle Gala. 4.4 plainly expounded it Christ or wold they haue the Body to be of one nature and the head to be of another how should they then growe togither shold the iustice of God be satisfied in another nature They forget that he which sanctifieth and they that are sanctified ex henos pantes are all of One Heb. 2.11 as also in all things like vnto vs syn excepted And this exception of Syn giueth also answer vnto the second namely that he assumed our nature but without syn First euerey meane Alchinist can tell them that in the generatinge of euerie creature euen in Minerals there is the Nature Actiue and the nature Passiue secondly that Syn is no substance but a bare Axcident or thing happening to accompanie mans nature because of the first transgression Now of Accidents or things associatinge a Substance som are seperable Now if anie shold say that syn is inseperable they may aswell say it is of the Essence of Man and that is apparantly false inasmuch as Man was perfect without it yea in very deed it is his imperfection Besides that which is impossible with man that is possible with God And that this Posse sit eius velle is a possibilitie agreing with his will let them remember that the holy ghost Luk. 1.35 whose office is as fyre to burne and water to wash loe he ouershadowes Mary for the perfectinge of this worke And much I muse that any shold think it possible to make the first Adam so glorious a Creature and that of red earth and in the meane tyme deme it so vnable for the second Adam to arise out of our Nature But say they The word was made flesh true what then Then Maries seed was not made flesh I answer if the word Made imply a turning of one Nature into another Then our Apollinarifts Christ will followe Expound therfore the word Made or Became by the word Epilambaneraj he assumed Heb. 2.16 Nor think to ●lip away with sayinge he tooke a seede for Abraham and the faithfull but remember the text He tooke the seede of Abraham and so the seede of the faithfull And for this cawse is he termed so oft Dauids sonne and If haj the roote from whence he shold growe Isa. 11.1 though in regard of the Nature assuminge he be called Dauids son and Goote Ps. 110.1 Reu. 5.5 And in vayne had Mathew and Luke laboured to proue him genealogically of Adam Abraham and Dauid if so he had not deriued an humaine nature from them Oh saith the false spirit he was of Dauid in regard of Ioseph his supposed Father not by reason of Mary for she was of Leuj inasmuch as Elisabet of Aaron Luk. 1.1.36 was cosen to Mary Our English Samosatenists som of them deming this but plaine cosenage in the Anabaptists and indeed they propound vnto vs so but a supposed Christ they say in secret that they were Cosens only in regard that Iudah and Leuj had one and the same Mother Gen. 29.34.35 This sence is far fetcht and deare bought good inough for Botchers that clap any clout on their garment But consideringe the Shiloh must spring from Iudah Gen. 49.10 Reu. 5.5 and Dauid lineallie I must needs hold fast that Mary his mother was of Iudah as also Elizabet by the Mother-side the surest side thowgh a Daughter of Aaron by reason of her Father Simple sowles though Iudahs men might not Marrie no more then any of the other 10. tribes with Leuj because of confoundinge the enheritaunce Nomb. 36.7.8.9 Yet Leuies Men who had no such enheritaunce Iosh. 13.33 And therfore no such confusion they might as they had their maintenance out of the other Tribes so Marrie with the other tribes Such a Mariage se in 2. Chro. 22.11 where the holy preist Iehojadah is maried with Iehosheba of Iudahs kyng-seede Besides Ioseph and Mary hauinge the testimonie of Iust and pleasing god it cannot without villanous reproach to them and Christ be thought to make such an illegitimate mongrell Mariage as the Anabaptists wold haue it Go therfore which way they and their opposit neighbour Artemon will to worke till they graun● him true God and true Man existinge of two Natures distinct not mingled their work but shutters in the ioynts as Belshassars knees knocking ech other The Iues saw him so verily Man as they could not beleiue him to be also God but the Manichests so se him God as they cannot feele his humaine Nature These are the odde spirits that teach the odde Doctrine by which they disire to be distinguished from allothers for odde If they can dash me and my brethren in the teeth with holding Christ as doth the Church of England the Church of Rome etc. oh then they haue won the can●red spurs and their Christ must be the true Christ. These odde ones for if they be Englishones they commonly are in fellowship with none no not amongst themselues only at league with the Deuell who sets them all on worke Euerie one sayinge he is in the estate of Helias he sees no Saynt but himself but all of them lying Elyasses They must knoe that the simplest member of thenglish church is better then the Greatest of them and whosoeuer in simplicitie beleiueth of Christ his natures and person in the Generall as doth Rome they hold that truth which euer hath preuailed against Arius Manicheus and all hereticall spirits And were it not that this beleif of Christ hath in all ages preuailed against hel gates I shold suspect it Yea reiect it Nay what if The Deuel confesse Iesus to be the sonne of Dauid and the Apostles to be the servāts of the euerliuinge god etc. shold I therfore not professe the same I praise god for it that the Corner stone is still bidinge visible though the orderlie building thereunto and thervpon hath bene notably lackinge He that lookes into this Christ with the one ey he cannot se in the Carpenter two things as scholers vse to speake aliud and aliud another and another thinge or nature not alius and alius another and another Person and because aliud