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A89410	An answer to George Keith's libel. Against a catechism published by Francis Makemie. : To which is added, by way of postscript. A brief narrative of a late difference among the Quakers, begun at Philadelphia.	Makemie, Francis, 1658-1708.; Keith, George, 1639?-1716.; Mather, Increase, 1639-1723.	1694 (1694)	Wing M307; ESTC W24940	61,656	129

Jewish Sabbaths and New Moons and other Types and Figures of the Law yet they set apart the First day of the week from Servile Labour and spend it Religiously in Publick and Private Religious exercises as their Neighbours can witness among whom they live and give up no● only that Day but many other days an● times to the Worship of God and a●… careful to live to God all the days o● their life Page Twenty-eight What he delivereth in his Catechism concerning Ministers is most Lame and Defective He saith People 〈◊〉 to maintain their Mi●isters that is a principal thing with him but he faileth i● these Three great Particulars 1. That he doth not inform people that none are true Ministers of Christ bu● such as are really Holy and Godly Men and have a Living Experience of the work and dealings of Gods Spirit in their heart that so they may Preach their own Spiritual Experiences unto people as Davi● did who said Come and I will tell you wh● God hath done for my soul and as these did who said What we have heard and seen an● handled of the word of Life we declare 〈◊〉 you 2. That he doth not inform People concerning the true Call of the true Mi●…sters of God and of Christ who a● called and furnished by the Spirit of Chaist in the work of their Ministry to Preach and Pray but seeing he and his Brethren called Presbyterian Ministers deny this manner of immediate calling by the Spirit of God they run to the Church and Pope of Rome by that Dirty Channel and Conduit to have their Call conveyed to them for they know that their Presbyterian Church nor indeed any other called a Church hath been a Visible Church ever since the Apostles Days but only the Church of Rome hath called her self the Visible Church and they confess and say with us that the True Church of God hath been that Woman who hath fled to the Wilderness and hath not been always visible but hid and that for about Twelve Hundred Years and so had no visible Officers or Ministers to call their successors And therefore they derive their Call and Authority by the Church and Pope of Rome as James Durham in his Commentary on the Revelations and many others whose Call and Ordination Dr. Owen so called hath refuted and these called Independent Ministers whereof John Owen was one have another poor shift and evasion saying they are called by the Church but if the Church was not visible for so many ages the Church could not call them the Ministers are before the Church and therefore cannot be called by the Church originally but all these poor shifts are in opposition to the inward Call and work and motion of Gods Spirit in the hearts of the Faithful which if they knew they would never run to such broken Cysterns to Draw Water 3. That he doth not inform people that all true Ministers of Christ as they have freely received so they freely give without desiring or bargaining for any setled maintenance nor exacting it by force as Presbyterian Ministers commonly do Page Thirty Nine Forty He doth very barely and obscurely and very defectively and in some things falsly deliver his Doctrine concerning Baptism and the Lords-Sup●per he doth not distinguish Christs Baptism which is with the Holy Ghost and Fire from Johns Baptism that is with Water he barely alledgeth that Children of Believing Parrents Viz. Infants are to be Baptized he giveth no account by what Authority o● Call they Baptise for they have no other Call but by the Pope of Rome and they have learned that practice of Sprinking or pouring Water on a Childs Forehead and calling it Baptism from the Church of Rome which they call the Where of Babylon and 〈◊〉 concerning the Supper of the Lord he is also very defective and he and his Brethren usu● and assume an Authority to themselve to Consecrate and Administer the Supper because of their Ordination originally deriv'● by the Pope but all good Christians ma● and ought to Eat and Drink remembring Christs Death and may and do receive him by Faith together with their outward eating with Prayer and Thanksgiving and so fulfil Christs Institution without any Prelate Presbyter or Priest of the Popes making for all true Christians are a Kingdom of Priests unto God and have the Word and Spirit of Prayer that only doth and can Sanctify their Eating and Drinking c. If any Question the Truth of this Copy they may satisfie themselves by perusing the Original at Rehoboth in Pocamok Mary-Land A Short Answer to George Keith's Lybel Against a CATECHISM Published by F. M. And left in the Hands of Mr. George Layfield I Am not a little surprised to receive from the hands of Mr George Layfield a paper containing so many mistakes false unjust and invidous charges against a Catechism Published by F M. and the rather because of his high pretences to an immideate mision and vain boasting of an extraordinary Apostolick call iusulting over all others from unusual high and enthusiastick attainments compleat perfection and unheard of experiences which the most serious and Godly are strangers unto and what they have any experince of most modest in discoursing of them and selfe denyed under their greatest enjoyments I shall wave two things First it's being delivered without a subscription whereby it is to be looked upon as a Libel not ●o be Answered nor Regarded Secondly that complementing and flattering preamble they have ever Condemned in others and withal am glad 〈◊〉 hear they have any Charity for any of a different Opinion from themselves which coming to hea● their Teachers will procure at any time First He begins with a general Charge of many Errors false and unsound things comprehended in the Cat●chism And next He asserts the Author to be guilty of many Omissions and this from one pretending to Learning who has diligently read and considered it as he says is so insignificant and idle Imputation which all modest and ingenuous men must never disown and that there are Omissions wilful and designed Omissions I shall never deny for after it was first Composed I did Compendize and Abreviate it ofter than once to suit it to the Capacities of such for whom it was prepared even young ones to whom Quakers have had little regard hitherto as to their Instruction in Religious Fundamentals Neither have I seen any Writings of Quakers even those pretending to give accounts of their Principles but justly may be charged with greater Omissions then any yet discovered in the Catechism Published by F. M. as the Doctrine of the Trinity of Persons in the God-head the Ten Commandments and the Lords Prayer the Pattern of all Prayer and George Fox his Received Catechism industriously spread by Quakers not only savours of Humane Learning and words of mans wisdom but guilty of many weighty Omissions and fills up a great part with stuff wherein there is no Religion far less can they

say God had a Church among the Jews under their Defections and Failings away to Idolatry and Superstition Now where Christ has a Church though Invisible in the Wilderness there are the Essentials of Religion Ordination and Church-constitution tho' much infected with Error and corrupted with Romish Superstition and these Essentials are still Gods and to esteem his and not theirs who are the chief Instruments Heads and Authors of all the Corruptions under that Defection to whom only and properly belong those Errors Corruptions Idolatries and Superstitions they have invented and introduced to the Church And yet the soundest of Divines believe that upon all Reformations which undoubtedly are originally and efficiently of God a people or particular persons leaving and Renouncing the Abominations of Antichrist and their submitting to and embracing the Truth of the Gospel and the Purity of all Ordinances and Worship abandoning the Pope as their Head and Subjecting themselves to Christs Kingdom they are ipso facto Constituted Churches of Jesus Christ and the Gospel Truths Ordination and Ordinances VVord and Sacraments they adhere to are not theirs nor from those they Separated from is Keith ignorantly and invidiously asserts but they are still the Lords and belong to Jesus Christ for even in the Church of Rome and under Antichrist there were Ordinances of Jesus Christ VVord and Sacraments Praying Preaching and Praising of God tho' much vailed and corrupted and consequently they had Ministers or Officers to Dispense these Ordinances who undoubtedly had some of the Essentials of Ordination which was the Lords and nothing was properly Antichrists but Antichristian Corruptions of which he is Author for differentia constituit speciem so that we no more have Ordination from the Pope upon Reformation then we have Baptism and the Lords Supper Reading and Praising and Quakers have Prayer Teaching the Scriptures and their new Observation of the First Day of the VVeek And we would gladly know from what part of Gods Word is it or can it be made to appear that upon every Defection and Corruption of the Church God will Beget and Create New Churches in an immediate manner under the Gospel more man under the Law For after the Defections of Israel and long continuance in Idolatry upon their Repentance and Reformation from all their Coruptions and Abuses they were Re Established 〈◊〉 Ad●…itred unto all the Ordinances and Priviledges of the Church of God and what does Keith think of them and their Reformation d●are he affirm they had all their Ordination and VVorship from Jereboam Who made Israel to Sin and other chief Idolaters so it will unquestionably follow that neither we our Ordination Doctrine VVorship nor Sacraments while warranted from the Autho●ly of Gods VVord are from Rome the Pope or any Prelate in the VVorld as Quakers after the manner of Satan would Accuse the Brethren Thus Keiths invincible Armado is beat to pieces whereby he thought to have overthrown all Churches who have obeyed Gods Call and are come out of Babylon And we are confident that a great part of our Teachings are Christian Experiences to which we oft publickly do Appeal for Confirmation of what is delivered and many Preachers have a peculiar way of Preaching their own Experiences And finally as he begins so he closes shuts up his Paper with groundless False Calumnies and invidious Reflections affirming I assert and alledge False things concerning Baptism and the Lords Supper and First concerning Baptism he saith First I do not distinguish between Johns Baptism and Christs In answer to this I Freely assent to any and all the distinction made in the Scriptures which is not in Substance or Essence but in Fruit and Efficacy and the same distinction I still make between our External Administration and Christs Efficacious Blessing thereof for what John said we and all Ministers of the Gospel to the end of the World must still acknowledge we Baptise with Water but Christ and he alone Baptiseth with the Holy Ghost and with Fire And if the Baptism Administred by Christs Disciples in His Name Authority and Presence was Christs and no doubt it was the same with Johns for Substance as you or any other may Read John 2.22 23 24 26. verses For 1. That Baptism wherewith Christ and His Disciples Baptised in the Land of Judea was Water Baptism 2. It was an outward visible and discernable Baptism to Spectators saith Johns Disciples to him Rabbi he that was with thee beyond Jordan the same Baptizeth and all men come unto him it is observable that it was not the Baptism with the Holy Ghost and with Fire as distinct from the outward Ordinance for it is said John 4.2 Jesus himself Baptised not but His Disciples yet it is called his in the 1 v. of this chap. and in the 22. v. of the former chap 1 Because done by his Disciples 2 By his Command and Authority And it was the same Baptism his Disciples and Apostles performed in all and Every Church where they Preached the Gospel according to that last Commission of Our Lords immediately before His Ascension Matth 28. and last Go Teach and Baptise al Nations and Lo I am with you to the end of the World Hence Four things are observable in this Text. 1 That Teaching of Nations yea All Nations by external means and instruments is a Standing and Perpetual Ordinance in the Church of Christ to the end of the World 2 That as many as are Called Ministers of the Gospel are also Commissionated To Baptise also Go Teach all Nations Baptising them 3 That Water Baptism or the External Ordinance is that Enjoined or Commanded in the Words and not the Baptism with the Holy Ghost and with Fire for it is enjoined to meer men who can do no more then John could do who Professed he Baptised with Water and yet we believe many who were Baptised by John received also the Holy Ghost otherwise a very empty and insignificant Ordinance and unprofitable to all if nothing else was reaped thereby but Sprinkling or Washing with Water and yet the Outward Mean Ordinance and Administration was from John and the fruit efficacy and blessing was from Jesus Christ and it is bold impudence and Arrogant Presumption for any to pretend to Baptise with the Holy Ghost and with Fire which is Christs peculiar Work and Prerogative And Keiths answer here unto in his Book is void of all satisfaction to any Intelligent Person for he affirms tho' no man Baptize with the Holy Ghost efficiently yet they may instrumentally we who use the outward mean Instrument and Ordinance may through the Blessing of God and Efficacious Presence of Christ's Spirit and undoubtedly are made Instruments of the Inward Grace Life and Advantage of that Ordinance but how Quakers can be Instruments of Baptizing Spiritually who are opposite to and ridicule the outward Ordinance which is the only proper means and instrument of Gods own Appointment I cannot resolve unless they