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A42386 A brief examination of the present Roman Catholick faith contained in Pope Pius his new creed, by the Scriptures, antient fathers and their own modern writers, in answer to a letter desiring satisfaction concerning the visibility of the protestant church and religion in all ages, especially before Luther's time. Gardiner, Samuel, 1619 or 20-1686. 1689 (1689) Wing G244; ESTC R29489 119,057 129

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purpose_n in_o his_o epistle_n to_o antonium_n he_o advise_v in_o contradiction_n to_o the_o bitter_a doctrine_n of_o novatus_n that_o pardon_n and_o peace_n shall_v be_v grant_v to_o penitent_n in_o extremis_fw-la at_o or_o a_o little_a before_o their_o death_n because_o say_v he_o apud_fw-la inferos_fw-la exomologesis_fw-la fieri_fw-la non_fw-la posset_n in_o hell_n or_o the_o state_n of_o death_n or_o in_o the_o grave_n as_o the_o word_n inferi_n be_v sometime_o take_v there_o can_v be_v no_o satisfaction_n make_v by_o suffer_a penance_n or_o punishment_n for_o sin_n it_o be_v true_a in_o the_o latter_a end_n of_o the_o same_o epistle_n he_o say_v it_o be_v one_o thing_n to_o be_v present_o admit_v to_o the_o reward_n of_o faith_n or_o heavenly_a glory_n and_o another_o to_o be_v purge_v from_o sin_n by_o be_v long_o torment_v in_o fire_n but_o this_o testimony_n be_v no_o good_a proof_n of_o the_o roman_a purgatory_n in_o regard_n he_o there_o speak_v express_o de_n die_v judicii_fw-la of_o the_o day_n of_o judgement_n after_o the_o resurrection_n whereas_o our_o adversary_n
6._o cap_n 19_o passio_fw-la domini_fw-la in_o qua_fw-la tingimur_fw-la mystag_n 4._o in_o sacramentis_fw-la non_fw-la quid_fw-la sint_fw-la sed_fw-la quid_fw-la ostendant_fw-la attenditur_fw-la quoniam_fw-la signa_fw-la sunt_fw-la rerum_fw-la aliud_fw-la existentia_fw-la &_o aliud_fw-la significantia_fw-la aug._n count_v max._n l._n 3._o c._n 22._o ne_fw-fr quis_fw-la attendat_fw-la in_o eye_n quod_fw-la sunt_fw-la etc._n etc._n de_fw-fr doctr._n christ_n c._n 7._o hom._n 16._o in_o sacram._n euchar._n tom._n 6._o wherein_o neither_o we_o nor_o our_o adversary_n admit_v of_o any_o transubstantiation_n thus_o tertullian_n in_o his_o book_n of_o baptism_n say_v that_o thereby_o we_o be_v dye_v in_o the_o passion_n or_o blood_n of_o our_o lord_n in_o like_a manner_n cyril_n of_o jerusalem_n after_o he_o have_v instruct_v christian_n not_o to_o look_v upon_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n in_o the_o sacrament_n as_o mere_a bread_n and_o wine_n whatever_o sense_n sugge_v but_o as_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o christ_n affirm_v the_o same_o of_o the_o water_n in_o baptism_n that_o it_o be_v not_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d mere_a or_o bare_a water_n and_o the_o same_o he_o say_v of_o the_o oil_n in_o chrism_n though_o neither_o of_o they_o be_v substantial_o change_v into_o the_o very_a blood_n of_o christ_n many_o more_o instance_n may_v be_v add_v but_o these_o may_v suffice_v i_o will_v only_o take_v notice_n of_o a_o similitude_n use_v by_o st._n chrysostom_n in_o which_o bellarmin_n triumph_v it_o be_v this_o as_o say_v he_o wax_v set_v on_o fire_n lose_v its_o substance_n be_v turn_v into_o fire_n so_o by_o consecration_n the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n be_v change_v into_o the_o flesh_n of_o christ_n to_o which_o and_o the_o like_a expression_n quote_v out_o of_o the_o father_n 288._o in_o epiphanium_n pag._n 244._o &_o pag._n 288._o i_o shall_v answer_v in_o the_o word_n of_o petavius_n the_o jesuit_n there_o be_v many_o thing_n say_v he_o in_o the_o holy_a father_n especial_o in_o chrysostom_n scatter_v here_o and_o there_o in_o their_o homily_n which_o if_o you_o will_v reduce_v to_o the_o rule_n of_o exact_a truth_n they_o will_v seem_v altogether_o void_a of_o good_a sense_n 152._o sixtus_n senensis_n lib._n 6._o biblioth_n annotat_fw-la 152._o another_o of_o their_o own_o church_n ingenuous_o aknowledge_v that_o preacher_n such_o as_o the_o father_n be_v in_o their_o homily_n and_o popular_a discourse_n often_o speak_v thing_n by_o a_o hyperbole_n be_v carry_v away_o affectuum_fw-la impetu_fw-la &_o orationis_fw-la cursu_fw-la with_o the_o heat_n of_o their_o affection_n which_o often_o say_v he_o befall_v chrysostom_n yea_o dedimus_fw-la rhetoricati_fw-la sumus_fw-la &_o all_o quid_fw-la declamationibus_fw-la dedimus_fw-la saint_n hierom_n confess_v of_o himself_o we_o have_v play_v the_o rhetorician_n in_o a_o declamatory_n way_n to_o close_v this_o similitude_n be_v the_o weak_a kind_n of_o argument_n neither_o may_v our_o adversary_n in_o prudence_n urge_v this_o similitude_n of_o fire_a wax_n too_o vehement_o against_o we_o if_o so_o they_o must_v necessary_o grant_v that_o not_o only_o the_o substance_n of_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n in_o the_o sacrament_n cease_v to_o be_v but_o the_o very_a outward_a accident_n also_o for_o when_o wax_n be_v fire_v not_o only_o the_o substance_n but_o the_o very_a accident_n be_v disserent_fw-la from_o what_o they_o be_v before_o and_o so_o much_o at_o present_a for_o transubstantiation_n i_o pass_v to_o the_o next_o article_n purgatory_n purgatory_n 3._o art._n concern_v purgatory_n the_o ancient_a father_n for_o five_o hundred_o year_n after_o christ_n do_v not_o hold_v the_o romish_a doctrine_n of_o purgatory_n as_o a_o article_n of_o faith_n yea_o some_o of_o they_o express_o contradict_v it_o i_o will_v begin_v with_o the_o greek_a father_n clemens_n romanus_n and_o ignatius_n in_o their_o genuine_a write_n take_v no_o notice_n at_o all_o of_o it_o justin_n martyr_n deny_v it_o we_o believe_v say_v he_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d ☜_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d every_o man_n after_o his_o departure_n hence_o go_v according_a to_o his_o work_n either_o into_o everlasting_a punishment_n or_o life_n and_o immediate_o add_v man_n will_v avoid_v sin_n if_o they_o consider_v that_o they_o must_v go_v without_o repentance_n into_o eternal_a punishment_n by_o fire_n but_o of_o endure_v temporal_a punishment_n for_o sin_n by_o fire_n not_o a_o word_n be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o all_o his_o write_n 75._o quest_n 75._o among_o the_o question_n and_o answer_n which_o be_v print_v with_o his_o work_n it_o be_v thus_o resolve_v after_o the_o departure_n of_o soul_n out_o of_o their_o body_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d present_o they_o be_v by_o angel_n carry_v to_o place_n fit_a for_o they_o the_o soul_n of_o the_o just_a to_o paradise_n of_o the_o unjust_a to_o hell_n in_o which_o place_n they_o be_v keep_v until_o the_o resurrection_n here_o no_o notice_n be_v take_v of_o purgatory_n or_o any_o middle_a or_o three_o place_n out_o of_o which_o soul_n may_v be_v deliver_v by_o prayer_n mass_n indulgence_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v true_a this_o writer_n be_v much_o young_a than_o justin_n martyr_n but_o it_o make_v the_o more_o against_o our_o adversary_n for_o it_o show_v that_o long_a after_o his_o death_n this_o article_n of_o roman_a faith_n be_v not_o catholic_n or_o universal_o receive_v in_o irenaeus_n as_o erasmus_n also_o have_v observe_v who_o be_v very_o well_o see_v in_o his_o write_n there_o be_v no_o mention_n of_o purgatory_n but_o in_o the_o close_a of_o his_o last_o book_n there_o be_v somewhat_o contradict_v it_o for_o without_o any_o distinction_n of_o person_n or_o sin_n mortal_a or_o venial_a he_o declare_v his_o opinion_n that_o the_o soul_n of_o all_o christ_n disciple_n go_v to_o one_o invisible_a place_n 4.63_o origen_n hom._n 18._o in_o jeremiam_fw-la pag._n 163._o edit_n huet_n dum_fw-la hic_fw-la sumus_fw-la remedium_fw-la non_fw-la postea_fw-la vita_fw-la constant_n lib._n 4.63_o hade_n there_o remain_v till_o the_o resurrection_n as_o tertullian_n origen_n lactanctius_n ambrose_n and_o other_o of_o the_o father_n hold_v which_o be_v inconsistent_a with_o purgatory_n as_o invocation_n of_o dead_a saint_n also_o and_o contradict_v by_o the_o romanist_n eusebius_n caesariensis_n have_v write_v several_a volume_n in_o all_o which_o as_o scultetus_n have_v note_v there_o be_v not_o the_o least_o mention_n of_o purgatory_n it_o be_v true_a he_o relate_v how_o the_o people_n pray_v for_o the_o soul_n of_o constantine_n but_o constantine_n as_o he_o assure_v we_o in_o the_o next_o chapter_n go_v not_o to_o purgatory_n but_o be_v take_v up_o to_o his_o god_n and_o join_v his_o divine_a part_n his_o soul_n to_o god_n yea_o a_o little_a before_o his_o death_n he_o himself_o as_o eusebius_n report_v use_v these_o word_n now_o i_o know_v myself_o to_o be_v happy_a to_o be_v now_o account_v worthy_a of_o eternal_a life_n prayer_n then_o for_o the_o dead_a do_v not_o necessary_o infer_v purgatory_n 13._o de_fw-fr praep._n evang._n lib._n 11._o c._n 20._o lib._n 13._o i_o grant_v he_o report_v plato_n opinion_n concern_v purgation_n of_o a_o middle_a sort_n of_o man_n by_o temporal_a punishment_n after_o death_n but_o add_v that_o plato_n through_o ignorance_n of_o the_o scripture_n err_v in_o many_o thing_n i_o pass_v to_o athanasius_n in_o all_o who_o write_n though_o many_o and_o large_a i_o can_v find_v no_o mention_n of_o this_o article_n of_o faith_n purgatory_n and_o be_o the_o more_o confirm_v it_o can_v be_v find_v in_o regard_n bellarmin_n quote_v nothing_o out_o of_o he_o or_o eusebius_n against_o we_o gregory_n nazianzen_n in_o his_o oration_n in_o caesarium_fw-la 10._o oratio_fw-la 10._o deliver_v himself_o thus_o i_o be_o move_v by_o the_o say_n of_o the_o wise_a that_o every_o soul_n that_o be_v belove_v of_o god_n as_o the_o soul_n send_v by_o romanist_n to_o purgatory_n be_v acknowledge_v to_o be_v present_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d after_o the_o lose_n from_o the_o body_n and_o departure_n hence_o that_o which_o darken_v the_o mind_n be_v either_o purge_v or_o cast_v from_o it_o or_o do_v away_o in_o what_o sort_n i_o can_v well_o express_v whence_o its_o evident_a he_o believe_v not_o they_o be_v purge_v by_o fire_n as_o romanist_n peremptory_o affirm_v begin_v sensible_o to_o discern_v that_o good_a which_o remain_v for_o it_o to_o be_v fill_v with_o wonderful_a delight_n and_o to_o leap_v for_o joy_n but_o this_o wonderful_a delight_n and_o joy_n can_v consist_v with_o purgatory_n torment_n or_o the_o fear_n of_o they_o nazianzen_n then_o be_v no_o papist_n in_o this_o point_n on_o those_o word_n 〈◊〉_d orat._n de_fw-fr paschate_n 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d you_o shall_v carry_v out_o nothing_o until_o the_o morning_n etc._n etc._n he_o say_v beyond_o or_o after_o this_o night_n i._n e._n after_o death_n there_o
any_o saint_n as_o for_o the_o place_n usual_o quote_v out_o of_o justin_n m._n to_o this_o purpose_n it_o be_v gross_o pervert_v by_o false_a point_v the_o word_n be_v these_o but_o he_o i._n e._n god_n the_o father_n and_o he_o who_o come_v from_o he_o and_o teach_v we_o and_o the_o host_n of_o good_a angel_n these_o thing_n the_o son_n and_o the_o prophetic_a spirit_n we_o worship_v and_o adore_v bellarmine_n be_v not_o ashamed_a to_o render_v they_o thus_o but_o he_o the_o father_n and_o his_o son_n who_o come_v and_o teach_v we_o these_o thing_n and_o the_o host_n of_o good_a angel_n and_o the_o prophetical_a spirit_n we_o worship_v and_o adore_v thus_o by_o place_v a_o note_n of_o distinction_n after_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d teach_v we_o these_o thing_n he_o abuse_v his_o reader_n into_o a_o conceit_n that_o the_o primitive_a christian_n as_o justin_n here_o witness_v do_v adore_v not_o only_o the_o father_n son_n and_o holy_a ghost_n but_o the_o host_n of_o holy_a angel_n also_o yea_o if_o the_o cardinal_n read_v be_v right_o than_o they_o worship_v and_o adore_v the_o holy_a angel_n in_o the_o three_o place_n next_o to_o the_o father_n and_o son_n before_o the_o holy_a and_o prophetical_a spirit_n which_o certain_o be_v far_o from_o the_o least_o thought_n or_o practice_n of_o the_o primitive_a christian_n or_o their_o apologist_n justin_n martyr_n who_o elsewhere_o declare_v in_o his_o own_o and_o the_o christian_n name_n that_o they_o worship_v as_o the_o father_n and_o son_n so_o in_o the_o three_o place_n not_o the_o holy_a angel_n but_o the_o holy_a ghost_n but_o enough_o of_o this_o 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d only_o we_o may_v observe_v by_o the_o way_n with_o what_o honesty_n and_o fidelity_n our_o adversary_n quote_v the_o father_n there_o be_v another_o place_n they_o bring_v out_o of_o irenaeus_n ut_fw-la maria_fw-la virgo_fw-la sit_fw-la evae_n advocata_fw-la medium_n lib._n 5._o cont_n haer._n ultra_fw-la medium_n that_o the_o virgin_n mary_n may_v be_v eve_n advocate_n hence_o most_o impertinent_o they_o infer_v that_o eve_n pray_v or_o may_v pray_v to_o the_o virgin_n mary_n whereas_o all_o that_o can_v be_v conclude_v from_o those_o word_n be_v that_o the_o virgin_n mary_n pray_v for_o eve._n i_o wonder_v how_o it_o be_v possible_a to_o conceive_v that_o eve_n shall_v pray_v to_o the_o virgin_n mary_n some_o thousand_o of_o year_n before_o she_o be_v bear_v the_o truth_n be_v those_o word_n of_o irenaeus_n do_v not_o at_o all_o relate_v to_o any_o religious_a advocation_n or_o invocation_n for_o in_o that_o place_n he_o only_o make_v a_o parallel_n or_o comparison_n betwixt_o eve_n and_o the_o virgin_n mary_n that_o as_o eve_n a_o virgin_n bring_v sin_n and_o death_n into_o the_o world_n so_o mary_n a_o virgin_n bring_v forth_o a_o saviour_n and_o redeemer_n ut_fw-la maria_fw-la sit_fw-la evae_n advocata_fw-la that_o mary_n may_v be_v a_o advocate_n or_o pleader_n to_o excuse_v the_o sin_n of_o eve_n and_o defend_v the_o honour_n of_o the_o sex._n take_v tertullia_n verse_n as_o a_o comment_n on_o irenaeus_n who_o speak_v full_o and_o clear_o what_o he_o mean_v virgo_fw-la viro_fw-la nocuit_fw-la sed_fw-la vir_fw-la de_fw-la virgine_fw-la vicit_fw-la 10._o lib._n 1._o advers._fw-la marcionem_fw-la v._o origen_n in_o dialog_n p._n 256._o &_o tertul._n de_fw-fr habitu_fw-la mulier_fw-la c._n 10._o virgin_n ut_fw-la virgo_fw-la caro_fw-la carnis_fw-la debita_fw-la solvat_fw-la that_o as_o by_o a_o virgin_n come_v death_n so_o also_o by_o a_o virgin_n come_v deliverance_n from_o death_n the_o virgin_n mary_n in_o and_o by_o her_o son_n make_v full_a reparation_n or_o satisfaction_n for_o eve_n transgression_n what_o do_v this_o concern_v religious_a invocation_n of_o the_o bless_a virgin_n but_o i_o shall_v not_o satisfy_v myself_o much_o less_o other_o in_o bare_a assert_v let_v we_o come_v to_o the_o trial_n of_o the_o cause_n and_o produce_v our_o witness_n justin_n martyr_n fine_a ecclesia_fw-la nec_fw-la invocationibus_fw-la angelicis_fw-la facit_fw-la aliquid_fw-la sed_fw-la purè_fw-la orationes_fw-la dirigens_fw-la ad_fw-la dominum_fw-la iren._n lib._n 20._o c._n 57_o in_o fine_a apol._n 2._o give_v a_o account_n to_o the_o emperor_n antoninus_n of_o the_o christian_a religion_n say_v we_o offer_v up_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o prayer_n and_o thanksgiving_n to_o god_n we_o think_v he_o alone_o worthy_a of_o this_o honour_n by_o who_o all_o thing_n be_v create_v and_o a_o little_a after_o we_o worship_v god_n alone_o the_o church_n of_o smyrna_n be_v accuse_v by_o the_o heathen_n 21._o euseb_n hist_o eccl._n lib._n 4._o c._n 15._o v._o lactant._n instit_fw-la lib._n 5._o cap._n 11._o de_fw-la vera_fw-la relig_n c._n 55._o cont._n faustum_n lib._n 22._o c._n 21._o as_o if_o they_o intend_v to_o worship_v their_o martyr_a bishop_n saint_n polycarp_n answer_v in_o vindication_n of_o themselves_o we_o worship_v christ_n the_o son_n of_o god_n but_o martyr_n we_o worthy_o love_v 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d as_o his_o disciple_n and_o faithful_a servant_n who_o memory_n on_o their_o natalitia_fw-la or_o obit_n day_n we_o celebrate_v which_o exact_o agree_v with_o st._n austins_n dogmatical_a resolution_n of_o this_o question_n we_o honour_v angel_n charitate_fw-la non_fw-la servitute_fw-la with_o love_n not_o service_n and_o in_o another_o place_n with_o the_o worship_n or_o honour_n of_o love_n and_o fellowship_n as_o holy_a man_n be_v worship_v in_o this_o life_n origen_n against_o celsus_n edit_fw-la lib._n 8_o p._n 386._o edit_fw-la cant._n and_o the_o same_o he_o say_v lib_n 5._o c._n 60._o vet_z edit_fw-la the_o good_a angel_n in_o some_o sense_n we_o reverence_v honour_n or_o worship_n as_o god_n minister_n but_o we_o worship_v one_o god_n and_o his_o only_a son_n with_o prayer_n and_o supplication_n offer_v they_o to_o god_n by_o his_o only_a beget_v beg_v that_o he_o as_o our_o high_a priest_n will_v present_v they_o to_o god._n he_o 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that_o please_v god_n have_v the_o friend_n of_o god_n 140._o v._o origen_n in_o romanos_fw-la 2._o p._n 140._o angel_n and_o bless_a soul_n favourable_a to_o he_o who_o will_v render_v god_n more_o favourable_a and_o will_v pray_v together_o with_o he_o although_o unrequested_a but_o of_o our_o pray_v therefore_o to_o they_o not_o a_o word_n be_v to_o be_v find_v in_o all_o his_o book_n against_o celsus_n yea_o in_o these_o word_n the_o ground_n of_o all_o invocation_n of_o saint_n or_o angel_n be_v whole_o take_v away_o not_o to_o weary_v the_o reader_n lib._n 5._o in_o cell_n p._n 233._o he_o say_v all_o prayer_n be_v to_o be_v offer_v up_o to_o god_n and_o that_o it_o be_v not_o fit_a or_o reasonable_a 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d 〈◊〉_d to_o call_v upon_o angel_n if_o not_o on_o angel_n much_o less_o on_o saint_n the_o same_o we_o find_v lib._n 8._o in_o cell_n p._n 402._o clemens_n alexandrinus_n account_v it_o gross_a folly_n to_o beg_v of_o those_o who_o be_v no_o god_n as_o if_o 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