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A77901	Poimēnopurgos. Pastorum propugnaculum. Or, The pulpits patronage against the force of un-ordained usurpation, and invasion. By Thomas Ball, sometimes Fellow of Emmanuel College in Cambridge, now minister of the Gospel in Northampton, at the request, and by the advice, of very many of his neighbour-ministers.	Ball, Thomas, 1589 or 90-1659.	1656 (1656)	Wing B584; Thomason E863_10; ESTC R206670	204,465	356

Christ sends not his Church home through this dark world by a Candle that is put out with every blast but takes care that it should light her home When the Apostles were to go into Judea only and not so much as into Samaria he calls them Candles (e) Mat. 5. 14 15. but when they were to go out into all the world where storms and blusters would attend them he doth not call them Candles although the Metaphor invited him to that expression having said the Churches were the Candlesticks (f) Rev. 1. 20. because he knew a Candle would not long continue in a blustering and windy time but Starres its true the Moon and Starres may sometimes not appear and be obscured as they were to Paul and his associates for many dayes (g) Act. 27. 20. yet they are not extinguished The Ministers may be obscured and overshadowed but cannot be extinguished they thought the Witnesses were dead and gloried over them (h) Rev. 11. 10 11. yet they rise up again with some addition and advantage What Christ hath setled cannot be easily unsetled what he hath built cannot be broken down or if it be will be repaired with more magnificence the Tabernacle rose up in the Temple and the ruined and destroyed Temple in those spirituall fabricks that the Apostle calls the Temples of the holy Ghost Christ leaves his Church in every visitation of it a great deal better then he findes it the second edition is evermore correctior emendatior look over all the Resurrections of the Church from the beginning and he might truly say what Augustus vainly did of Rome Inveni lateritiam reliqui marmoream CHAP. XIX The thirteenth Argument THat ought to be in every setled well-ordered Arg. 13 Church which the holy Ghost hath ordered and appointed to it for the holy Ghost is equal in authority and interest being God as well as they and in the ordering Church-affairs though last (i) Mat. 28. 19 is not the least we acknowledge creation was the foundation and ground of all and that for orders sake is commonly ascribed to the Father Redemption followed as the support and supplement of that and that we give unto the Sonne but there was need of Consolation and incouragement to compleat and carry on the same and that Christ leaves unto the holy Ghost It s true it was not fit that Christ should much appear after that great affront was put upon him by the Jews in his worst Clothes that were tottered and torn by them nam minuit praesentia famam presence impaires opinion and admiration Nor that they should be Orphans as Christ speaks (k) Joh. 14. 18 deprived and destitute of conduct and direction for so great an undertaking the holy Ghost is therefore sent and substituted as the Oeconomus and Overseer of the work (l) Joh. ●4 16 17. for the completion consummation and perfection of it And there was something of fitnesse and conveniency for the holy Ghost could act invisibly could see and not be seen as Aeneas and Achates in the Cloud convey himself into their meetings and discover all hypocrisies and double dealing as he doth in the case of Ananias and Saphira (m) Act. 5. 3 4 for had the holy Ghost been seen as well as Peter was in that Assembly they had not framed so great a lie and made so notable and manifest discoveries of themselves Their mindes and memories were frail and brittle and might be easily insnared and over-reached Christ therefore promiseth the holy Ghost to make supply of that defect (n) Joh. 14 15 They were to introduce among the Gentiles a new Religion and must look for oppositions and counter actings a winged Mercury was therefore needful that could and would be here and there and every where to finde out and discover plots (o) Joh. 16. 13 14. as we finde he did before that dreadful famine in the dayes of Claudius (p) Act. 1● 28 and when Paul was to be bound and troubled the holy Ghost gives warning of it to him in every City as he goes along (q) Act. 20. 23. at every turn and alteration the holy Ghost is at one end As Merchants that have great stocks and drive on great Trades have partners every where and persons interested to drive it on so God in this great work divides himself as we may say and hath some of the persons every where to further it But the holy Ghost hath ordered and appointed some in every Church to attend and act in holy things That this may be the better made out we may observe it in these particulars 1. Furnishing of them with proper gifts for every season and condition of the Church as in the first age with gifts miraculous and extraordinary (r) Heb. 2. 4. God himself bearing them witness both with signes and wonders and with divers miracles and gifts of the holy Ghost these were not given unto every member of the Christian Congregation for we finde believers that heard not whether there were an holy Ghost or no (s) Act. 19. ● but unto such as were to be the guides and overseers of them for to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit to another faith by the same Spirit and so on as the Apostle speaks (t) 1 Cor. 12. 8 9 10 11. the next age needed courage resolution patience self-deniall that they might not cowardly betray what they knew was the truth and accordingly the holy Ghost supplies them with it its true some other sects have had their sufferers there have been Martyrs and Confessors in all ages and estates but never such as these who by their silence patience suffering self-denial grew Conquerers and Masters of their persecutors for they overcame in the blood of the Lamb and by the word of their testimony and they loved not their lives unto the death (u) Rev. 12. 11 and so in all succeeding ages of the Church unto this day some have been qualified and fitted for imployment to attend and act in holy things in their severall respective Churches and Assemblies 2. Gives them distinguishing and proper names not only Christians and believers not only Saints and Sonnes of God but names of Office and Authority as Pharaoh unto Joseph when he raised and preferred him (w) Gen. 41. 45. so Nebuchadnezer to Daniel and his three associates (x) Dan. 1. 7. whereby they did appropriate and make them theirs and so the holy Ghost gives other names peculiar and proper unto them as men of God (y) 1 Tim. 6. 11. 2 Tim. 3. 17. others are called Gods Sonnes Gods servants Gods people but only Ministers are called Gods men So Stewards one may have many men but one Steward Eliezer of Damaseus Abrahams Steward (z) Gen. 15. 2. a name of jurisdiction and Authority yet given commonly to Ministers (a) 1 Cor. 4.

eorum aliquid quibus ens determinatur nothing determined and fixed but something in the dark and at a distance which they laboured to discover and describe So the first mover they beheld afar off called him ens entium movens non motum could say he was natura naturans simplicissimus actus but all this while he was unknown unto the best of them as Paul professeth to them (r) Act. 17. 23 to the unknown God so we that have the Scripture-light for to direct us come to the knowledge of him by degrees per viam remotionis as the School speaks find that he cannot lie (s) Tit. 1. 2. that he cannot deny himself (t) 2 Tim. 2. 13 that he dwelleth not in Temples made with hands (u) Act. 17. 24 which are all negatives shew us rather what he is not than what he is but we are not to sit down and acquiesce in these removals a syllogisme made all of negatives will not conclude in any figure and therefore we proceed to things more positive a learned Doctor of this Land pleasing himself with these removals and negations in opening Gods nature and attributes came at the last to say that God was nothing that is that nothing best resembled him and set him out which was all one as if he had said he was not which was so contrary unto his being as nothing could be more we find amongst the Poets a God that was called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 but none that ever was called 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 and when God was desired to give out unto Moses a notion or description of himself he doth not say that he was not or that he was nothing but rather that he was all that he was being (w) Exod. 3. 13 14. and God said unto Moses I am that I am and he said thus shalt thou say unto the Children of Israel I am hath sent me unto you Something we say hath some savour When men intend a building they first desire to find a bottom and seeing much depends in this debate on Ordination we have need to determine it and fix it well that the weight upon it sink it not And though it would be suitable to our proceedings in the former part to approach and come unto it by degrees yet having d●ne already much that way we are constrained to fall abruptly on the definition or description of it and affirm That Ordination is a sacred solemn dedication and investiture of a qualified fitted person with Authority to attend and act in holy things by those deputed there unto by God For the opening and unfolding of this description we desire these few particulars may be considered 1 We affirm it is a Dedication that is an alienation separation or devoting of a man to this attendance for no man saith Christ (x) Mat. 6. 24. can serve two Masters especially when the service is attending When men come theref●re to be ordained they come to be divorced and divided from what they were before Christ findes some that he had a mind to fishing but calls them off (y) Mat. 4. 18 19 20. and they immediatly leave that Trade and devote or dedicate themselves unto another Paul was a very busie Servant to the High-Priests and because Jerusal●m did not suffice him he gets Commissions for Damascus but Christ removes him to a better Master (z) Rom. 1. 1. Paul a Servant of Jesus Christ called to be an Apostle separated to the Gospel of God and we find he left all presentlie (a) Gal. 1. 15. 16. immediately I conferred not with fl●sh and blood and this no doubt was Ordination to him and did devote and dedicate him to the work Yet that it might appear how much God valued him and trusted him there is another separation mentioned (b) Act. 13. 1 2 because he was now to go unto the Gentiles his mission and Commission is repealed and renewed Thus were the Levites dedicated and devoted to attend the holie things instead of the first-born who formerly had been imployed as God sayes expresly (c) Numb 3. 12 13. so Hannah dedicates her son unto the service of the High-Priest (d) 1 Sam 1. 11 and so Timothy gave up himself to Paul to serve and wait upon him in the holy things of God (e) Ph. 2. 22. ye know the proof of him that as a Son with the Father so hath he served with me in the Gospel thus Ordination doth devote and dedicate a man to this attendance 2 We say investiture Dedication doth design and separate the person from what he was before but doth not properly impower and put h●m in therefore for plainness sake and explication we add investiture for if the Genus in a distinction be not compleat and full the definition will be imperfect and we say investiture because the word is metaphorical and relates unto the mode and usage formerly of appointing and transferring Offices (f) Esa 22. 20 21 22. and it shall come to passe in that day that I will call E●iakim my Servant the Son of Hilkiah and I will clothe him with thy Robe and strengthen him with thy girdle will cōmit thy Government into his hand and he shall be a Father to the Inhabitants of Jerusalem and to the house of Judah and the key of the house of David will I lay upon his shoulder so he shall open and none shall shut and he shall shut and none shall open So when Eleazer was to succeed his Father in the Priesthood he is put in by an invest ture (g) Numb 20. 25 26. take A●ron and Eleazer his son and bring them up unto Mount Hor and strip Aaron of his Garments and put them upon Eleazer his Sonne It s true that Christ in the new Testamen● do●h not estate his Ministers and put them into Office by investiture yet he doth something like it the Apostles were designed and sent into all the world wherein there was and is a very great variety of fashions Garments of different and various shapes it was not therefore fit the Apostles should be tied to any one Garb but left at liberty to vary as they saw occasion and in such things to please and gratifie their hearers as Paul when he was to go unto Judea and to converse a while with them he puts himself into a Garb and Habit suitable for when he was for to take shipping he shaves his head and undertakes a vow (h) Act. 18. 18. yet what was common to all Nations our Saviour forgets not and that was locks and keis for unto Peter he sayes (i) Mat. 16. 19. I will give unto thee the Keys of the Kingdom of Heaven and whatsoever thou dost bind on earth shall be bound in Heaven and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in Heaven And when this promise was made good unto them though we find not mention of the keyes yet

frequently and more affectionately (w) Phil. 2. 22. ye know the proof of him that as a Son with the Father so he hath served with me in the Gospel so when he was resolved to intrust Titus with Ordination (x) Titus 1. 5. he doth in the verse before bestow a Son-ship on him (y) Verse 4. to Titus mine own Son after the common faith he gives this power unto none but unto Sons that should be bound to carry on Gods Interest and Design Seeing therefore partiality will cleave unto Authority be sure the Authority be fixed where it should be seeing every entity and being in the world is apt for to augment and magnifie it self according to that saying of the Philosopher 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 what one hath he labours for to heap its good to follow God and hope the best of things Object 5. If Ordination thus descends from Presbyter to Presbyter from one to one in a succession line and uninterrupted course we see not how the Popes of Rome can be declined and excluded for they are Presbyters what Peter was they say they are for claim to be his Followers and Successors and though some have been Cardinals that never were Presbyters or Priests yet certain it is there never was a Pope that was not first a Priest or Presbyter (z) 1 Pet. 5. 1. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 the Presbyters which are among you I exhort who am also a Presbyter or Elder not only a single and simple Presbyter but a Presbyter in composition or combination and if it once be in the Pope it must come from him for he for many years hath looked on himself as the root and fountain of all Ecclesiasticall and Spirituall power and to be sure there were no Presbyters for many ages and successions in the Church but what received Ordination from his Authority and Influence and if the persons Ordained be the Sons of those that do Ordain as hath been said then our Presbyters at this day must be Popes Sons for indeed Papa is but Father in other words only used because of the affinity it hath with other Forreign Languages so that the Pope must needs bee not God-Father but Father to all the Presbyters that are now and forasmuch as in the judgement and opinion of all our Presbyters to be sure of those that be of the Province of London the Pope is Antichrist we see not how his Sons and Children can be freed from being Antichristian for if they go about for to evade by shifting and distinctions they will be found to be as arrant Sons as formerly only more dis-ingenuous and disobedient to their Parents they should be honester in our opinions if they would do as one in this Nation who chose rather to be accounted as he was indeed a Noble mans Bastard than an ordinary mans Son as otherwise he might have been Sol. 1. The Popes of Rome are not the first nor only Antichrists for there were such in the Church when Rome was Orthodox and farre enough from being Antichristian for the mystery of iniquity began to work in Pauls time as he sayes (a) 2 Thes 2. 7. and some began to love preheminence in Saint John's time (b) John 3. 9. which is the great peece of Antichristianism that is objected to the Pope nay so modest were the Popes of Rome that they contended not for the Title of Vniversall Bishop untill John Bishop of Constantinople went about to snatch it from them and affix it unto that Seat about the year of our Lord five hundred ninety five Now when they saw it would be gone they put in for it and prevailed and for that other part of Antichrist which is to be Heterodox about the Nature and Offices of Christ according as Saint John determined it (c) Joh. 2. 22. there were many of that spirit and perswasion in the Church before John the Apostle wrote his Epistle (d) 1 John 1. 18. 1 John 4. 3. and Arrianism and Photinianism that flatly and plainly denied Christs Divinity were almost every where before they were at Rome for it is well known that Rome was Orthodox cum ingemuerat orbis miratus erat se factum esse Arrianum when the whole World groaned under that opinion now shall we account those Antichristian that have received Ordination from the Successors of those Arrian and Photinian Bishops if so then all the Eastern Churches ever since were and still are Antichristian then those good Bishops that made up the four first O●cumenical or Generall Councills must be Antichristian for Ordination came to them in this respect from Antichrists 2. God is the Father of all Beleevers as wee are taught (e) Matth. 6. 9. yea we are bidden to own no other Father (f) Mat. 23. 9. call no man Father upon earth for one is your Father which is in Heaven this is the Originall and root of all the Church as the Apostle plainly shews (g) Eph. 3. 14 15. and sure we are that he was long before the Pope of Rome and if we be examined further and looked on as we are Presbyters yet here we are more ancient than the Pope for not only did God set Teachers in the Church (h) 1 Cor. 12. 22. but when Christ ascended up on high he led captivity captive and gave gifts to men that is hee gave some Apostles and some Prophets and some Evangelists and some Pastors and Teachers (i) Ephes 4. 8. 11. There were therefore Pastors and Teachers in the Church before the Bishops of Rome were called Popes or pretended unto that Universality of Jurisdiction or Ambition of being above all that justly brought upon him the suspition of being the Antichrist or Man of Sin signified by the Apostle in that signall place (k) 2 Thes 2. 4. yea not onely in other parts of the World but also here in England Pastors and Teachers were established before the Popes of Rome had any interest or anthority among us three Bishops sent from hence unto the Synod of Arles when Constantine the Great was Governour and Ruler here before he was made Emperour the whole Synod with the names of the Bishops sent from hence may be seen at large in the First Volumn of Sir Henry Spelman's Councills its true that this Land was much afflicted partly by the venom of the Arrian and Pelagian Heresies partly by the barbarous cruelty of the Northern Nations that were Pagan-Idolaters for the recovery and relief of whom Gregory the Bishop not yet Pope of Rome sent over Austin and other Ministers not to plant the Faith and Gospell which was done long before but to reclaim and reconcile the jarring parties that were found among the Britaines that were forced into Wales for their security and partly to work upon the Saxon Kings that then were little better than Pagans for Austin found in those parts both Bishops and Presbyters that told him of his pride and