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A49439 An answer to Mr. Hobbs his Leviathan with observations, censures, and confutations of divers errours, beginning at the seventeenth chapter of that book / by William Lucy ... Lucy, William, 1594-1677. 1673 (1673) Wing L3452; ESTC R4448 190,791 291

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