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januar._n and_o this_o be_v that_o of_o which_o christ_n which_o dur_fw-la angustine_n when_o he_o write_v this_o do_v not_o after_o your_o manner_n carp_v at_o ecclesiastical_a ceremony_n but_o show_v that_o be_v will_v not_o have_v they_o institute_v at_o every_o man_n pleasure_n for_o in_o his_o first_o epistle_n to_o januariuâ—_n he_o thus_o write_v if_o the_o whole_a church_n use_v any_o of_o these_o it_o iâ—_n insolent_a madness_n to_o dispute_v whether_o such_o a_o thing_n be_v to_o be_v do_v or_o no_o whit._n pag._n 296._o augustine_n condemn_v the_o multitude_n of_o ceremony_n in_o his_o time_n and_o will_v have_v we_o rest_v content_v with_o those_o few_o ceremony_n which_o be_v commend_v unto_o we_o in_o the_o scripture_n ad_fw-la januar._n epist_n 118._o cap._n 1._o &_o epist._n 119.19_o his_o word_n which_o you_o allege_v i_o willing_o embrace_v for_o we_o use_v and_o esteem_v those_o ceremony_n which_o all_o church_n have_v receive_v as_o necessary_a for_o order_n and_o 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that_o he_o do_v embrace_v and_o reverence_v these_o four_o counsel_n as_o the_o four_o book_n of_o the_o holy_a gospel_n for_o this_o be_v rather_o to_o violate_v the_o gospel_n then_o to_o reverence_v the_o counsel_n although_o as_o i_o take_v it_o gregory_n meaning_n be_v that_o what_o be_v decree_v and_o conclude_v in_o these_o four_o counsel_n out_o of_o god_n word_n against_o arriuâ—_n euâ—â—onius_n macedonius_n nostorius_fw-la eutyches_n and_o dioscâ—ruâ—_n that_o he_o firm_o embrace_v and_o will_v not_o suffer_v these_o decreet_a which_o be_v approve_v by_o the_o evangelicall_a writing_n and_o in_o which_o this_o impious_a heresy_n be_v condemn_v to_o be_v revoke_v and_o repeal_v no_o more_o than_o the_o gospel_n itself_o neither_o can_v i_o imagine_v that_o it_o be_v gregory_n purpose_n to_o affirm_v this_o of_o all_o these_o counsel_n that_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a constantinâ—ple_n ephesus_n and_o chalcedâ—n_n be_v full_o equal_a unto_o the_o holy_a gospel_n in_o 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the_o evangelist_n and_o apostle_n i_o wonder_v you_o be_v not_o ashamed_a of_o hippolytus_n of_o who_o harding_n himself_o be_v almost_o ashamed_a hippolyt_v hippolyt_v think_v not_o that_o we_o be_v aught_o move_v with_o judgement_n with_o dur_fw-la why_o do_v you_o reject_v this_o book_n of_o hippolyte_n as_o counterfeit_n hierome_n affirm_v that_o he_o be_v a_o bishop_n and_o have_v write_v many_o commentary_n upon_o the_o scripture_n whit._n pag._n 367._o will_v it_o therefore_o follow_v that_o this_o book_n be_v not_o counterfeit_a nay_o it_o be_v the_o rather_o forge_v because_o hierom_n do_v not_o number_v it_o among_o his_o book_n hippolytus_n be_v a_o very_a worthy_a man_n of_o who_o eusebius_n hierom_n theodoret_n nicephorus_n have_v make_v very_o honourable_a mention_n but_o this_o book_n be_v childish_a in_o the_o beginning_n and_o in_o the_o whole_a altogether_o unanswerable_a to_o his_o eloquence_n and_o judgement_n author_n of_o so_o small_a credit_n so_o late_o draw_v 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martyr_n whereas_o they_o of_o magdenburge_n complain_v that_o he_o corrupt_v the_o doctrine_n of_o repentance_n therein_o they_o forge_v against_o he_o no_o new_a accusation_n but_o rather_o disclose_v that_o which_o all_o man_n know_v to_o have_v be_v too_o true_a cyprian_n write_v some_o thing_n of_o repentance_n very_o unreasonable_o and_o undiscreet_o and_o not_o he_o it_o he_o dur_fw-la o_o singular_a impudency_n o_o intolerable_a arrogancy_n what_o have_v all_o the_o father_n in_o that_o age_n err_v so_o souse_o in_o so_o great_a a_o matter_n as_o if_o they_o be_v ignorant_a that_o the_o work_n of_o repentance_n have_v any_o virtue_n any_o where_o else_o but_o from_o the_o merit_n and_o blood_n of_o christ._n whit._n pag._n 369._o what_o need_v all_o this_o heat_n it_o have_v be_v your_o part_n to_o have_v show_v that_o the_o father_n who_o then_o live_v have_v speak_v nothing_o unfit_o of_o repentance_n so_o have_v you_o confute_v that_o i_o charge_v they_o with_o which_o 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of_o the_o father_n to_o be_v god_n he_o have_v that_o of_o augustine_n of_o dur_fw-la if_o the_o son_n of_o god_n have_v not_o his_o essence_n from_o the_o father_n sure_o be_v be_v not_o the_o son_n of_o the_o father_n whit._n pag._n 542._o and_o why_o so_o do_v caluin_n ever_o deny_v that_o the_o son_n have_v his_o essence_n from_o the_o father_n he_o and_o we_o all_o teach_v that_o the_o son_n be_v beget_v of_o the_o father_n essence_n and_o that_o the_o son_n have_v the_o whole_a essence_n of_o the_o father_n and_o that_o not_o by_o decision_n or_o propagation_n as_o the_o wicked_a pritheâ—â—s_n dream_n but_o by_o communication_n and_o yet_o hâ—â—e_v you_o multiply_v scripture_n and_o father_n needless_o this_o we_o say_v christ_n be_v god_n of_o himself_o but_o in_o this_o sense_n that_o that_o essence_n which_o be_v in_o the_o son_n be_v not_o from_o any_o other_o essence_n but_o of_o and_o from_o himself_o see_v that_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o father_n and_o the_o son_n be_v 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and_o impute_v some_o want_n to_o christ_n page_n 131_o 13_o hierome_n often_o much_o wre_v the_o scripture_n page_n 132_o 14_o it_o be_v lawful_a to_o prefer_v one_o man_n in_o the_o truth_n before_o all_o father_n and_o counsel_n in_o error_n page_n 132_o 15_o lend_v fast_o though_o ancient_a yet_o be_v it_o not_o ordain_v by_o christ_n or_o his_o apostle_n the_o manner_n of_o obscrue_v it_o not_o the_o same_o in_o all_o church_n page_n 133._o nota_fw-la 16_o what_o fast_n protestant_n allow_v the_o same_o judgement_n they_o have_v which_o augustine_n have_v who_o know_v not_o lentenâ—fast_a pag._n 134_o 17_o the_o popish_a monk_n be_v marvellous_a voluptuous_a and_o live_v in_o sensuality_n far_o unlike_o those_o who_o have_v be_v page_n 134_o 18_o relic_n of_o saint_n not_o burn_v nor_o their_o funeral_n remove_v but_o their_o superstition_n injurious_a to_o god_n and_o his_o glory_n pag._n 135_o 19_o augustine_n in_o his_o book_n of_o freewill_n do_v not_o establish_v it_o but_z show_v that_o sin_n come_v from_o man_n freewill_n not_o from_o god_n and_o therefore_o entitle_v his_o book_n so_o page_n 136_o 20_o the_o papist_n and_o pelagian_o differ_v not_o much_o in_o freewill_n pag._n 137._o nota_fw-la 21_o necessity_n be_v not_o opposite_a to_o the_o freedom_n of_o will_n but_o to_o force_v and_o compulsion_n man_n lose_v not_o his_o will_n but_o the_o quality_n of_o it_o nota_fw-la 22_o augustine_n esteem_v much_o of_o antiquity_n unity_n and_o succession_n if_o sincere_a wisdom_n and_o truth_n go_v with_o they_o else_o he_o prefer_v truth_n before_o they_o so_o do_v protestant_n page_n 138_o 23_o optatus_n confute_v donatist_n by_o the_o communion_n of_o the_o catholic_a church_n so_o be_v schismatics_n to_o be_v deal_v with_o but_o not_o from_o the_o now_o romish_a church_n which_o be_v no_o true_a church_n pag._n 138._o 139_o 24_o anthony_n and_o other_o hermit_n like_o he_o have_v not_o successor_n like_o themselves_o he_o account_v a_o monastery_n 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page_n 142_o 30_o protestant_n have_v reason_n to_o prohibit_v popish_a book_n be_v full_a of_o sedition_n and_o horesie_n special_o see_v in_o queen_n maryes_fw-mi time_n they_o execute_v martial_a law_n upon_o any_o that_o have_v the_o book_n of_o protestant_n page_n 143_o 31_o bishop_n jewel_n prove_v all_o the_o ancient_a father_n to_o be_v against_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o dispute_v with_o harding_n as_o he_o have_v assume_v at_o the_o cross_n page_n 144._o 145_o the_o sum_n of_o the_o sixth_o answer_n touch_v the_o foundation_n of_o the_o father_n 1._o campian_n reason_n be_v weak_a the_o father_n have_v study_v the_o scripture_n diligent_o and_o prefer_v they_o before_o all_o other_o writing_n therefore_o their_o exposition_n of_o they_o be_v sound_a and_o good_a not_o to_o be_v reject_v without_o sin_n page_n 150_o 2_o hierome_n and_o augustine_n dissent_n about_o the_o exposition_n of_o gal._n 2.11_o page_n 151_o 3_o not_o only_o every_o particular_a fathermaâ—erre_n but_o all_o of_o one_o age_n have_v err_v in_o a_o particular_a of_o set_v up_o image_n in_o the_o church_n page_n 150_o nota_fw-la 4_o augustine_n innocent_n and_o other_o bishop_n think_v it_o necessary_a the_o eucharist_n shall_v be_v give_v to_o infant_n page_n 151._o nota_fw-la 5_o papist_n leave_v the_o scripture_n and_o search_v out_o and_o follow_v after_o man_n invention_n page_n 152_o 6_o the_o papist_n allow_v the_o learned_a only_a to_o read_v they_o but_o christ_n command_v all_o page_n 152._o nota_fw-la 7_o it_o be_v prove_v against_o duraeus_n that_o christ_n have_v command_v the_o simple_a to_o read_v the_o scripture_n and_o have_v leave_v to_o they_o the_o book_n of_o the_o scripture_n page_n 152._o nota_fw-la 8_o protestant_n will_v subscribe_v to_o the_o father_n so_o far_o as_o they_o keep_v they_o to_o the_o scripture_n page_n 153_o 9_o denys_n be_v against_o the_o private_a mass_n page_n 160_o 10_o private_a mass_n can_v profit_v the_o absent_a page_n 160._o nota_fw-la 11_o in_o justine_n martyr_n time_n they_o give_v to_o the_o people_n both_o the_o bread_n and_o wine_n ibid._n 12_o cyprian_n make_v all_o the_o apostle_n equal_a with_o peter_n and_o deny_v that_o any_o appeal_n shall_v be_v make_v to_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n ibid._n and_o pag._n 161._o nota_fw-la 13_o lactantius_n deny_v that_o true_a religion_n and_o image_n can_v stand_v together_o ibid._n 14_o the_o heathen_a worship_v not_o their_o image_n but_o the_o god_n express_v by_o they_o ibid._n nota_fw-la 15_o athanasius_n make_v the_o scripture_n sufficient_a ibid._n 16_o epiphanius_n condemn_v all_o worship_v of_o the_o virgin_n mary_n ibid._n and_o pag._n 162_o 17_o the_o papist_n do_v worship_n and_o offer_v up_o sacrifice_n to_o the_o virgin_n mary_n and_o other_o saint_n page_n 162._o nota_fw-la 18_o basil_n say_v in_o his_o time_n the_o prayer_n of_o the_o church_n be_v in_o a_o know_a tongue_n ibid
19_o prayer_n in_o a_o unknown_a tongue_n profit_v not_o the_o people_n as_o duraeus_n think_v they_o do_v ibid._n nota_fw-la 20_o nazianzene_n allow_v and_o praise_v civil_a society_n no_o less_o than_o monkish_a life_n ibid._n 21_o ambrose_n condemn_v all_o prayer_n to_o saint_n and_o their_o intercession_n page_n 163_o 22_o duraeus_n vain_a distinction_n of_o intercessor_n and_o suffragator_n ibid._n nota_fw-la 23_o hierome_n make_v a_o bishop_n and_o a_o priest_n of_o equal_a authority_n bâ—_n the_o laâ—_n of_o god_n ibid._n 24_o pope_n gelasius_n condemn_v as_o sacrilegious_a the_o take_n away_o of_o the_o cup_n from_o the_o people_n and_o command_v that_o either_o both_o the_o element_n be_v give_v to_o they_o or_o neither_o page_n 164_o 25_o duraeus_n make_v the_o manechy_n the_o first_o author_n of_o dismember_n the_o supper_n ibid._n nota_fw-la 26_o vigilius_n deny_v the_o presence_n of_o christ_n in_o the_o church_n in_o both_o nature_n ibid._n 27_o chrysostome_n exhort_v all_o man_n to_o read_v the_o scripture_n ibid._n 28_o augustine_n be_v whole_o on_o the_o protestant_n side_n page_n 165_o 29_o by_o gregory_n judgement_n he_o that_o call_v himself_o universal_a bishop_n be_v a_o forerunner_n of_o antichrist_n page_n 161_o 30_o john_n bishop_n of_o constantinople_n first_o challenge_v the_o title_n of_o universal_a bishop_n ibid._n 31_o what_o be_v mean_v by_o universal_a bishop_n by_o gregory_n judgement_n which_o touch_v the_o pope_n home_o ibid._n nota_fw-la 32_o boniface_n the_o 3._o take_v the_o name_n of_o universal_a bishop_n and_o derive_v it_o to_o his_o successor_n page_n 166._o nota_fw-la the_o sum_n of_o the_o seven_o answer_n touch_v history_n 1_o campian_n only_o number_v up_o the_o historiographer_n foolish_o conclude_v all_o be_v on_o their_o side_n page_n 169_o 2_o protestant_n refuse_v not_o to_o examine_v their_o doctrine_n by_o history_n so_o they_o be_v not_o tie_v to_o the_o apparent_a blemish_n in_o they_o page_n 170_o 3_o historiographer_n be_v taint_v with_o the_o corruption_n of_o their_o time_n and_o the_o late_a they_o be_v the_o more_o corrupt_a for_o the_o most_o part_n they_o be_v find_v to_o be_v page_n 161_o 4_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v marvellous_o corrupt_v though_o we_o can_v not_o tell_v when_o it_o begin_v to_o be_v so_o and_o yet_o see_v the_o beginning_n of_o some_o particular_n as_o of_o usurp_a authority_n over_o church_n of_o denial_n of_o priest_n marriage_n of_o worship_v image_n of_o carnal_a eat_n in_o the_o sacrament_n of_o transubstantiation_n of_o purgatory_n of_o the_o pope_n above_o counsel_n page_n 177._o nota_fw-la 5_o the_o corruption_n of_o it_o greâ—_n not_o all_o at_o once_o no_o more_o than_o of_o jerusalem_n but_o by_o little_a and_o little_a as_o in_o the_o greek_a church_n also_o page_n 172_o 6_o the_o head_n of_o the_o heretic_n who_o rise_v up_o in_o the_o greek_a church_n so_o of_o those_o who_o rise_v up_o in_o the_o latin_a church_n ibid._n nota_fw-la 7_o the_o church_n all_o the_o apostle_n time_n be_v a_o pure_a virgin_n after_o their_o departure_n become_v corrupt_v page_n 173._o 174_o 8_o the_o promise_n of_o the_o church_n perpetual_a preservation_n from_o corruption_n do_v and_o do_v belong_v to_o the_o church_n of_o the_o elect_a not_o to_o particular_a church_n ibid._n nota_fw-la 9_o in_o the_o council_n of_o africa_n where_o there_o be_v present_a page_n 217._o bishop_n and_o augustine_n himself_o the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n affect_v to_o have_v all_o appeal_v make_v to_o he_o but_o the_o council_n deny_v it_o unto_o he_o page_n 175_o 10_o the_o legate_n of_o the_o pope_n forge_v a_o canon_n of_o the_o council_n of_o nice_a to_o persuade_v this_o council_n which_o forgery_n be_v find_v out_o by_o search_n ibid._n 11_o augustine_n and_o the_o bishop_n of_o africa_n censure_v for_o schismatics_n by_o boniface_n for_o resist_v the_o bishop_n of_o rome_n who_o affirm_v that_o they_o be_v move_v unto_o it_o by_o the_o devil_n page_n 176_o 12_o eulalius_n the_o first_o bishop_n of_o carthage_n who_o admit_v the_o pope_n power_n over_o the_o church_n of_o africa_n ibid._n 13_o then_o become_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n plain_o antichristian_a when_o phocas_n the_o murderer_n grant_v to_o she_o to_o be_v the_o head_n of_o church_n and_o boniface_n the_o 3._o to_o be_v universal_a bishop_n ibid._n 14_o gregory_n the_o great_a be_v the_o last_o good_a and_o the_o first_o bad_a bishop_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n page_n 177_o 15_o bernard_n and_o aeneas_n siluius_n who_o be_v afterward_o caâ—â—d_a pope_n pius_fw-la marvellous_o inveâ—ed_v against_o the_o corruption_n of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n ibid._n 16_o bernard_n cry_v out_o of_o the_o pomp_n of_o eugenius_n the_o pâ—â—e_n and_o the_o impiety_n of_o his_o court_n ibid._n nota_fw-la 17_o all_o sin_n in_o rome_n may_v both_o be_v practise_v and_o reprehend_v page_n 1â—8_n 18_o the_o censure_n of_o cornelius_n which_o he_o give_v of_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o the_o council_n of_o trent_n ibid._n 19_o the_o argument_n be_v weak_a the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v once_o holy_a therefore_o it_o be_v so_o still_o ibid._n 20_o rome_n though_o it_o be_v babylon_n yet_o not_o that_o which_o s._n peter_n speak_v of_o 1._o pet._n 5.13_o neither_o have_v they_o yet_o prove_v that_o peter_n be_v at_o rome_n page_n 179_o 21_o if_o history_n do_v mention_v any_o such_o thing_n yet_o it_o be_v with_o such_o variety_n that_o there_o be_v no_o certainty_n of_o it_o in_o the_o scripture_n there_o be_v not_o one_o tittle_n of_o it_o nay_o by_o necessary_a collection_n they_o disclaim_v it_o when_o as_o this_o then_o be_v the_o whole_a ground_n of_o the_o hierarchy_n of_o the_o papacy_n it_o be_v a_o ground_n without_o any_o foundation_n of_o the_o scripture_n ibid._n nota_fw-la 22_o caluine_n confess_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n in_o the_o time_n of_o syricius_n and_o other_o bishop_n to_o have_v be_v the_o church_n of_o chriâ—t_n but_o deny_v not_o but_o it_o have_v err_v page_n 181_o 23_o error_n overthrow_v not_o a_o church_n for_o be_v a_o true_a church_n ibid._n 24_o syricius_n the_o first_o who_o inforce_v single_a life_n upon_o the_o minister_n ibid._n nota_fw-la and_z page_n 182_o 25_o syricius_n and_o innocent_n do_v condemn_v marriage_n as_o evil_n page_n 182._o nota_fw-la 26_o the_o church_n of_o rome_n be_v but_o a_o church_n in_o show_n and_o pomp_n else_o it_o have_v nothing_o in_o it_o of_o a_o true_a church_n page_n 183._o nota_fw-la 27_o pelagius_n and_o papist_n agree_v both_o about_o grace_n inbred_a in_o man_n nature_n ibid._n the_o sum_n of_o the_o eight_o answer_v touch_v the_o paradox_n of_o the_o adversary_n 1_o caluin_n nor_o any_o protestant_n make_v god_n the_o author_n of_o sin_n pag._n 193._o nota_fw-la and_o page_n 194._o nota_fw-la 2_o god_n have_v a_o finger_n in_o the_o action_n which_o be_v evil_a not_o in_o the_o corruption_n of_o it_o which_o be_v whole_o from_o man_n but_o in_o the_o motion_n and_o action_n which_o be_v in_o it_o selse_a good_a page_n 195_o 3_o if_o we_o say_v god_n permit_v sin_n unwilling_o we_o overthrow_v his_o providence_n and_o omnipotency_n he_o will_v yet_o allow_v not_o that_o which_o be_v evil_a page_n 196_o 4_o man_n be_v guilty_a of_o sin_n in_o the_o thing_n they_o do_v which_o be_v evil_a and_o yet_o god_n holy_a though_o he_o will_v they_o augustine_n and_o hugo_n de_fw-fr sancto_fw-la victore_fw-la do_v so_o think_v page_n 197._o and_o page_n 198_o 5_o the_o lord_n work_v both_o in_o he_o that_o sin_v and_o in_o he_o that_o work_v well_o but_o after_o a_o diverse_a manner_n page_n 199_o 6_o christ_n be_v the_o son_n of_o the_o essence_n of_o the_o father_n not_o by_o decision_n or_o propagation_n but_o by_o communication_n but_o he_o be_v god_n of_o himself_o page_n 201._o and_o nota_fw-la 7_o the_o essence_n be_v not_o beget_v but_o the_o person_n of_o the_o person_n page_n 202._o and_o page_n 203_o 8_o beza_n correct_v his_o error_n of_o two_o personal_a union_n in_o christ._n ibid._n 9_o the_o 10._o of_o john_n vers_fw-la 30._o expound_v and_o defend_v that_o it_o prove_v not_o the_o unity_n of_o essence_n in_o christ_n &_o his_o father_n page_n 204_o 10_o not_o luther_n only_o but_o many_o of_o the_o father_n dislike_v and_o repent_v the_o bring_n in_o of_o the_o word_n homoousion_n yet_o they_o hold_v the_o thing_n page_n 205_o 11_o christ_n be_v not_o at_o the_o first_o perfect_a in_o wisdom_n but_o mcrease_v as_o in_o body_n so_o in_o his_o mind_n and_o wisdom_n page_n 206_o 12_o christ_n be_v ignorant_a of_o many_o thing_n but_o without_o sin_n page_n 208_o 13_o christ_n be_v ignorant_a of_o the_o last_o day_n as_o man_n and_o not_o only_o because_o he_o will_v not_o or_o do_v not_o reveal_v it_o to_o other_o page_n 208._o nota_fw-la
change_v so_o that_o it_o be_v no_o marvel_n if_o the_o custom_n of_o the_o church_n at_o one_o time_n interpret_v the_o scripture_n after_o this_o manner_n &_o another_o time_n after_o that_o be_v there_o ever_o the_o like_a boldness_n hear_v of_o that_o man_n will_v wrest_v the_o eternal_a and_o immutable_a word_n of_o god_n which_o ever_o have_v but_o one_o and_o the_o same_o sense_n to_o serve_v the_o will_n of_o the_o church_n that_o be_v of_o the_o pope_n of_o rome_n 10._o thom._n 1._o â—_o 1._o art_n 10._o beside_o this_o you_o have_v make_v so_o many_o they_o many_o duâ—_n the_o father_n and_o antiquity_n have_v ever_o make_v these_o four_o sense_n of_o the_o scripture_n whit._n pag._n 163._o to_o feign_v such_o four_o sense_n in_o every_o sentence_n differ_v not_o much_o from_o a_o learned_a kind_n of_o madness_n allegory_n i_o confess_v many_o be_v in_o the_o scripture_n but_o such_o as_o the_o holy_a ghost_n himself_o have_v make_v but_o to_o make_v other_o allegory_n when_o the_o word_n may_v be_v understand_v without_o a_o trope_n or_o when_o the_o grammatical_a sense_n be_v not_o absurd_a and_o repugnant_a to_o sound_v doctrine_n i_o think_v be_v too_o great_a boldness_n and_o temerity_n a_o tropological_a sense_n be_v not_o a_o new_a sense_n differ_v from_o the_o grammatical_a but_o one_o â—s_v it_o be_v with_o it_o final_o if_o the_o father_n as_o man_n have_v err_v must_v we_o needs_o follow_v their_o error_n the_o father_n reject_v the_o error_n and_o false_a interpretation_n of_o their_o predecessor_n why_o may_v not_o we_o deal_v so_o with_o they_o sense_n of_o every_o place_n to_o wit_n a_o allegorical_a a_o tropological_a a_o anagogical_a sense_n that_o by_o your_o ledgerdemaine_n you_o have_v abolish_v the_o true_a and_o native_a sense_n now_o campian_n since_o you_o know_v that_o this_o be_v the_o manner_n of_o your_o church_n in_o the_o interpret_n of_o the_o scripture_n than_o which_o what_o can_v be_v more_o corrupt_a how_o dare_v you_o presume_v to_o reprehend_v our_o manner_n of_o interpretation_n but_o we_o follow_v no_o other_o course_n than_o that_o which_o the_o father_n have_v prescribe_v and_o which_o the_o thing_n itself_o argue_v to_o be_v most_o fit_a for_o that_o be_v our_o course_n which_o augustine_n advise_v we_o interpret_v obscure_a place_n by_o those_o which_o be_v plain_a we_o observe_v the_o phrase_n and_o stile_n of_o the_o scripture_n we_o weigh_v circumstance_n we_o compare_v scripture_n with_o scripture_n we_o go_v not_o one_o jot_n from_o the_o analogy_n of_o faith_n they_o who_o take_v this_o course_n adjoin_v their_o hearty_a prayer_n that_o the_o lord_n will_v open_v this_o seal_a book_n unto_o they_o and_o teach_v they_o the_o true_a sense_n of_o the_o scripture_n shall_v never_o need_v to_o run_v to_o rome_n and_o inquire_v of_o that_o sacred_a oracle_n of_o the_o pope_n who_o himself_o neither_o understand_v the_o true_a sense_n of_o scripture_n neither_o be_v able_a to_o expound_v they_o to_o other_o but_o to_o return_v now_o to_o campian_n what_o be_v the_o usual_a fault_n he_o find_v in_o our_o deal_n with_o the_o scripture_n and_o what_o be_v the_o argument_n by_o which_o he_o do_v confute_v we_o let_v we_o demand_v say_v he_o for_o example_n sake_n of_o our_o adversary_n what_o cause_v they_o to_o devise_v this_o new_a opinion_n whereby_o christ_n be_v exclude_v out_o of_o the_o mystical_a supper_n we_o campian_n do_v not_o bond_n not_o dur_fw-la if_o you_o place_v christ_n body_n and_o your_o supper_n so_o far_o asunder_o how_o do_v you_o not_o exclude_v h_z m_o from_o iâ—_n whit._n pag._n 168._o it_o be_v true_a if_o thing_n that_o be_v sever_v can_v not_o way_n be_v join_v but_o by_o a_o corporal_a ouch_v but_o without_o it_o it_o may_v fit_o be_v as_o all_o believer_n be_v join_v together_o though_o they_o be_v far_o distant_a and_o distract_a one_o from_o another_o as_o jew_n grecian_n and_o all_o other_o godly_a make_v but_o one_o body_n with_o 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heaven_n and_o earth_n together_o he_o offer_v violence_n to_o nature_n and_o muâ—â—_n need_v admit_v innumerable_a absurdity_n wherefore_o we_o follow_v the_o scripture_n as_o our_o schoolmaster_n not_o take_v up_o any_o new_a opinion_n place_v the_o natural_a and_o humane_a body_n of_o christ_n in_o heaven_n for_o so_o the_o apostle_n peter_n speak_v who_o the_o heaven_n must_v contain_v until_o the_o time_n that_o all_o thing_n be_v rester_v 3.21_o act._n 3.21_o yet_o the_o 10.3.4_o the_o dur_fw-la theâ—_n be_v christ_n as_o present_v in_o baptism_n and_o in_o the_o word_n and_o wheresoever_o your_o faith_n seek_v for_o he_o as_o in_o the_o supper_n yea_o as_o present_a to_o the_o â—_z in_o the_o old_a testament_n as_o now_o to_o us._n whit._n pag._n 169._o so_o questionless_a he_o be_v unlâ—sse_o all_o man_n be_v without_o hope_n of_o life_n and_o salvation_n who_o be_v deprive_v of_o the_o supper_n for_o john_n 6.53_o yea_o all_o christian_n communicate_v of_o christ_n alike_o 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