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A89837	A few words occasioned by a paper lately printed, stiled, A discourse concerning the Quakers. Together with a call to magistrates, ministers, lawyers, and people to repentance. Wherein all men may see, that the doctrine and life of those people whom the world scornefully calls Quakers, is the very doctnrie [sic] and life of Christ. Written for the sake of the simple minded ones, who are willing to follow Christ under the crosse, and to deny all things to be his disciples. By a servant of the Lord, reproached by the world, and carnall worshippers, under the name of a Quaker; whose name in the flesh is Iames Nayler.	Naylor, James, 1617?-1660.; A. P.	1654 (1654)	Wing N279; Thomason E731_23; ESTC R202987	25,300	28

Saints have in the Word which is true but thou that would ascribe them to the Letter knowest them not but in the notion Thou sayest that those that have glorioser discoveries and revelations of Christ to boast on then ever any of those men knew yet doe cast downe the glory of their light before the Scriptures and are in subjection to Scriptures and Ordinances And thou dost instance the Disciples who saw Christ ascend I answer Whether is it a more glorious discovery and manifestation of Christ to see him appearing in them the second time in the spirit without sinne unto salvation or that to see him depart in the flesh seeing Christ tells them lt Heb. 9. 28. 2 Tim. 1. 10. is necessary that he goe away in the Flesh that he may come in the Spirit thou dost sufficiently cleare thy ignorance measuring Iohn 14. 28. 1 Cor. 15. 8. others who witnesse him with thy selfe who knowes no more of him but what thou hast found of him in the Letter And for that subjection to the Scripture and Ordinances and waiting thou speakes on did they waite in the letter and in those formes and customes and Idols temples that you waite in they waited together for the appearance of Christ in spirit praying in that measure of spirit they had received Thou goest about to make people beleeve that the light of Christ which is Acts 1. 14. given to enlighten every one that comes into the world is a naturall or fallen light but if thou didst know owne and obey it it would leade thee out of the fall and for that end art thou and others so often checkt and reproved by it for your pride Iohn 8. 12 covetousnesse envy scornefulnesse and other sinnes which though you now disobey as a thing too low for your high notions yet this light shall remaine for an eternall witnesse against all that hate and disobey it And whereas thou would scandall this light to leade into exorbitances deceit and miscarriages and many such things they are falsly cast upon this light for all these are amongst you who hate the light but who so obeys and loves the light it discovers these and leades all who follow it into one minde heart and soule and if ten times ten thousand that are guided by it yet not a word of dispute Acts 4. 32. but all speake the same things And thou calls the Scriptures A standing Rule but it is not so to you who cannot beleeve that ever it shall be fulfilled in you as it was given out by the holy Ghost neither will you so be tryed by it but you will wrest and twine it to make it meet your wills where your profits pleasures and lust will not suffer you to take up the Crosse and come up to it but if it be a Standing Rule let it stand as it is not confounded with the Serpents Wisedome and then prove thy selfe by it and those people thou reproaches and mis-calls whether thou or they owne it in practice Thou calls the Word of God the Sunne of truth and yet thou would make people beleeve it is the Scripture Letter Is the Letter the Sunne of truth may not all that looke on yee see thee in Babylon Thou sayest How could it be knowne that there is a God and Christ and holy ● Iohn 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. Ghost with their works and worships I answer If thou know not Iohn 4. 22 23. 24. the Father Sonne and Spirit one God and the way of his worship other wayes then thou hast found in the Letter thou Phil. 3. 3. knows but that in letter and notion which all the Saints of God knew in spirit and power and thou worships in letter and forme thou knowes not what who doth not know and worship in spirit and herein thou shalt have Christ all the holy men to witnes against thee Thou sayest the holy Ghost interprets Scripture by Scripture und reveales Christ the Father the holy Ghost the soules union with them by Scripture I answer The holy Ghost where he 2 Pet. 1. 21 is needs no Scripture to interpret Scripture by who gave forth Iohn 14. 26 Mat. 13. 10 11. all the Scripture and opens it againe for the holy Ghost did not give out the Scripture in Parables to its own seed but to the Serpents seed and as that spirit ariseth it opens and brings Iohn 16. ● all that is spoken in Scripture to remembrance and leades into all truth in its measure and when any in whom the spirit was have made use of Scripture in such like cases it hath not been to open the meaning to themselves but to convince others who had not the spirit or would not owne it And for sovles union 2 Cor. 3. 3. which of the Saints had the witnesse of their soules union to seek in the Letter but he that beleeveth hath the witnesse in himselfe 1 Iohn 5 10. Rom. 8. 16. in spirit and not in the letter and for trying and judging 1 Cor. 2. 15. it is not the litterall but the spirituall man that judgeth all things and no visible thing can judge him Thou would have them to suspect this light those who have no light to walke by but what they by their wisedome and learning have gathered out of the letter have cause to suspect it but they who have the infallible light of Christ by which all is tryed and judged and discerned and judgement brought forth into victory in themselves by it they have no cause to suspect it but waite to walke in it Thou art offended that they should say they pray 1 Thes 5. 17. alwayes have the Baptisme of Fire eate the Flesh and drinke the 2 Thes 1. 11. blood of Christ that they were once as others Hypocrites now why Mat. 3. 11. wilt thou thus wrangle that the cōmands and promises of Christ John 6. 53. should be witnessed fulfilled in the Saints now as they have bin in Scripture witnessed Doth not the Apostles exhort to pray alwayes without ceasing and are any Baptized into Christ who are not able to witnesse the Baptisme of Fire and the Spirit without which Water Baptisme availes not to salvation And doth not Christ plainely say that whosoever eats not his Flesh and drinkes not his blood hath no life in them And have not the Saints Rom. 6. 21. witnessed a time wherein they were hypocrites and in the world without the true God And thou sayest they can give no Scriture account of the estate they are now in and yet dost blame them for owning the Scripture fulfilled in them in these things but that nature could never be satisfied with Christ nor any of his nor any account from them though they could not convince them of sinne yet they would tempt hate and persecute even till death if they had power Thou would make people beleeve that these deny the

you turne your eyes within and Psalme 115. 5. look into your owne standing or rather into your fall and how you sighe under the curses and wrath of the Almighty and how farre you are from purity and holinesse and that estate wherein Gen. 1. 27. that you was made in the Image of God and waite to see that renewed in you and you brought up out of the fall and a seperation to be one with God and Christ that you may know what you worship and finde acceptance But are you not so farre from that that if the Image of God seem to be renewed in any and they begin to turne from these and the like abominations to serve the living God in purity and holinesse and they refuse to partake with you in your Pride Covetousnesse Drunkennesse and excesse 1 Pet. 4. 3. 4. of Ryot and deny your vaine Heathenish Customes Fashions and Worships and are not such objects of your envy and hatred and are they not abused by you buffeted scorned mocked stoped and called most reproachfull names even in Wayes and Markets and in your Streets when you meet with them though they never speake word to you but beare your reproaches with patience So that he that departs from Iniquity makes himselfe a Isay 59. 15. Pray to this Generation Doe not you plainely shew forth the Serpents Seed in you which is at enmity with the Seed of God where ever it is brought forth and so you shew your selves to be acted by the Devill who was a Murderer from the beginning Iohn 8. ●4 And when the judgements and wrath of God appeares in the Land Is it not because of your Iniquiries Doe not you like wicked Ahab charge an innocent People who cannot partake with you in your wickednesse declaring that those who are harmelesse to be cause of troubles in the Nation and say They are about to rayse a new Warre but never looke at your owne abominations for which the Land mournes and the wrath of God Hos 4. 3. is against it ready to destroy it but still hearden your hearts in your wickednesse And as though all this were too little have you not added this wickednesse now that God in mercy hath called some out of all these evill wayes and sent them to declare against these abominations which the world lives in both Priests and People not onely in word but in life and practice and hath 2 Pet. 1. 4. 5. 16. given his power to goe along with them and are not these called by you Devills Witches Sorcerers Conjurers Jesuites and the like Are they not some beaten some stoned others shamefully entreated and Imprisoned Are they not brought before Rulers and Governors for the confessing the name of Christ and all this you doe unto them not for any evill you can charge upon them but for the name of Christ and his power that goes along with them in shaking downe the Kingdome of the Serpent and bringing his elect out of all the Heathenish Customes and Iohn 4 23. 24. Worships to Worship God in Spirit and him onely and not men nor the Idolls of the World And now are you not blinde who have professed the Scriptures so long and cannot see them fulfilled now in this Generation Are not those of the same brood who called the good man of the house Beelzebub and how can they Mat. 10 25. doe lesse to them of his houshold Doe not this Generation beate some stone and shamefully entreat others that beare witnesse to the Heire And hath not Christ said Yee shall be hated Mat. 10 22. of all men for my Names sake They shall speake all manner of evill of you falsely They shall seperate out of your company reproach you and cast out your name as evill and you shall be brought before Rulers for a testimony against them and for my names sake And the Devill shall cast some of you into Prison that you Rev. ● 10. may be tryed and you shall have tribulations ten dayes yea the time comes that they that Kill you shall thinke they doe God Mat. 24. 9. service and these things will they doe unto you because they know not the Father nor the Sonne And the Scriptures must be fulfilled and those who have Eyes to see may see them now fulfilled and fulfilling and they who see it have share in it and rejoyce and witnesse God faithfull and his Word but wicked men and persecuters have been blinde in all Ages For 2 Co● 4. 4. the God of this world have blinded their Eyes and hath thereby made them fit for his owne worke and his worke is to oppose the Lord in all things Now all People see where you are and Rom. ● ● what you are doing where you live and whom you serve for if you live to the Flesh you cannot please God for as alwayes he that is borne after the Flesh persecuted him that was borne Gal. 4. 29. after the Spirit even so it is now O be no longer deceived see whether ye be in the first Birth or Borne againe That which Iohn 3. ●● is of the first is of the Earth Earthly and minds Earthly things feeds upon Dust and this is the Serpents Seed and here are all your envious haters persecuters covetous scoffers and such 2. Pet. 3. 3. like and here will you be found your actions witnesse it you cannot deceive God you are under the Curse and they be the 1 Iohn 3. ● cursed fruits you bring forth and they are for the Fire But the second brings forth no such fruit for he that is Borne againe is Borne of the Spirit and brings forth fruits of the Spirit he is 1 Iohn 4. 7. Borne of God and brings forth fruits unto God fruits of love meeknesse gentlenesse patience temperance and such like there was never a Persecuter of this Birth for they are called out of all occasions of strife contention and persecution for that is all about things of this world and Formes and Customes that Ier. 10 3. perish But they who are brought into the substance cannot contend about shaddowes for there all Disputes and vaine janglings Ephes 2. 18. cease For as they are ruled by one Spirit so they are led by one Spirit into one God where God Christ and the Saints are one eternally but this godlinesse is a Mystery to all the World Now try your selves for by your fruits you are knowne and shall be judged wherefore all People looke within and judge your selves reforme the inside looking without to be seen of men keeps you Hypocrites and you have your reward But Col. 2. 11. the true Seed of the Jewes who are of the Circumcision made without hands in the Heart and such seek not prayse of Men ● Iohn ● 3. 6. 7. but of God neither are they knowne of men nor owned of Men nor have fellowship with men but are raysed up out of the fall to God to live with him in joy and peace and righteousnesse which men talkes of who lives in the flesh and in the ● Cor. ●5 ●0 fall who are not reconciled to God and there can be no reconciliation to God while sinne stands which made the first seperation O People be not deceived FINIS

A Few Words occasioned by a Paper lately Printed Stiled A Discourse concerning the QUAKERS Together with a Call to Magistrates Ministers Lawyers and People to Repentance Wherein all men may see that the Doctrine and Life of those People whom the world scornefully calls Quakers is the very Doctnrie and Life of Christ Written for the sake of simple minded ones who are willing to follow Christ under the Crosse and to deny all things to be his Disciples By a Servant of the Lord reproached by the world and carnall worshippers under the Name of a Quaker whose Name in the Flesh is Iames Nayler To the READER Friend MEeting lately with a Printed Paper stiled A Discourse concerning the Quakers and finding many things in it deeply reflecting on the spirit of the Lord sent into the hearts of men to reprove and convince them of sinne and reproaching his holy people whom he hath called out of the world and that it was scattered abroad into many hands and so might prove a stumbling blocke to weake minds I was moved to send it to a friend in the West who for the simple ones sake hath given forth a few things that truth might appeare And if there be any that by Reading this shall be brought to discover truth from error or to lay to heart their conditions and how they have hitherto trifled away their pretious time There is another Paper now in the Presse from the same hand which will shew forth the true light that guides to God and opens the Scriptures removes the doubts about the great power of the Lord manifested in shaking the earthly part of those he brings to himselfe plainly declare the deceipts of the false prophets of the world and let the Magistrate see the bounds of his Authority There is another Paper come forth by the Author of the former Discourse occasioned by something Writ in Answer to it by one who saith he is none of those called Quakers and yet the Discourser chargeth all things he saith on them But the Paper sufficiently bewrayes the Authors weakenesse and its owne folly Reade without prejudice that thou may receive Instruction and not increase thy owne misery A. P. A Paper being come to my hand which is full of deceit under pretence of Religion and a Forme of Profession striking at the life of all Religion which is obedience to all the commands of God in the spirit and under pretence of the Letter which he calls the Word he goes about to reproach and scorne and sleight the teachings of Christ in the spi●it whereby he rules in the consciences of his Saints and by which light he reveales the Father in them and thereby declares himselfe to be the Eternall Word and Witnesse within his which Word first was known within them a free gift of the Father without any Letter or humane Learning and then declared out in the Letter But they who as the Jews thinke they have salvation in the Letter are enemies and persecutors of John 5. 3● them who have the Eternall Witnesse of salvation in the Spirit Gal. 3. 2● And from that spirit hath this Paper its foundation for God having put the enmity between the carnall and the sp●rituall Seeds there can be no agreement Now though I abhorre striving for Master-hood in words or writing yet for the sake of the simple ones who not yet having the true judgement and salt in themselves to discerne of spirits are subject to take great swelling words of mans wisedome for the power of God unto 1 Cor. 2. 5. 6. salvation I am therefore moved to lay open some of the deceits in this Paper that where truth and simplicity is in the heart it may more cleerly judge of truth from dece●t The Paper is Titled A Discourse concerning the Quakers It is no new thing for the dearest servants and children of God Psal 69 12. Psal 31. ●1 to be a discourse a reproach a taunt and by-word a wonder and Psal 22 6. a scorne to fooles and wicked men and to have the belly-god and drunkard to make songs of their sad and afflicted conditions Psal 60 12. and to be called by nick-names such as it pleaseth Ishmaels Iohn 10. 20. brood to cast upon them to be called Devills Deceivers Heretickes Franticke Madd men Quakers and such like but it is that the same Scriptures may be fulfilled in the Saints that were in Christ their example As they have done unto me so will Luke 23. 31. they doe unto you If they keep my sayings they will also keep yours If they have called the good man of the house Beelzebub how much more them of his houshold Thou sayest It s plainely fore-told that in the last dayes shall be the greatest Deceivers and worst of Hypocrites men extraordinarily inspired with a spirit of lyes and delusion It is above sixteen hundred yeares since those were foretold and they have had so long a time since to broach their deceits and strengthen themselves in the earth that the deceit is now growne a monster and hath got many heads and hornes religions Revel 13. 1. and formes one at warre with another striving with words and weapons who should be greatest But now that Christ is arisen in his Saints to reveale this man of sinne by his 2 Thes 2. 7. 8. light and to destroy him with the sword of his mouth All Ezek. 38. 18. 19. formes of Religions the Beast and the false Prophet Gog and Acts 4. 26. 27. Magog are joyned together to strike at this light and no wonder for that deceitfull spirit knowes that that light which discovers him in one forme will discover him in all And now the Devill would passe Judgement upon that light which is come to judge him where he is and so set any whom he can prevaile in to cast reproach upon it under many odious names that so he may keep people at a distance from so much as owning Luke 6. 22. it for he knowes if any owne it there he is discovered and dis-owned and this is his way in all in whom he speaks to cry out against those that walke in the light in generall calling them Deceivers Heretickes Hypocrites denyers of Scriptures Acts 24. 14. Acts 6. 13. 14. and Ordinances and many such words as he thinks may make the truth most odious to others but not once shew in what particular such walke contrary to the Scripture for the deceit knowes that if it come to tryall it selfe will be found that which walkes contrary to the Scripture for the same light that gave out the Scriptures leades not contrary to it And now who will be the greatest deceivers whether a poore despised persecuted reproached people whom God hath called out of the worlds wayes words workes worship riches and pleasures and so are become strangers and wanderers to and fro seeking a City whose builder and maker is God Heb 11. 26.