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A67846	Three contending brethren, Mr. Williams, Mr. Lob, Mr. Alsop, reconcil'd, and made friends by an occasional conference with three notorious hereticks, Mr. Humphreys, Mr. Clark, Dr. Crisp. By Calvin Anti-Crispian.	Trepidantium Malleus.	1698 (1698)	Wing Y88B; ESTC R221091	18,673	24

Baxter that it is true Seeing you have him beware of him for he hath one unpardonable Fanlt we cannot forgive him for neither I doubt will you Mr. L. What is that I pray Mr. H. He hath too much Wit for one man Mr. L. Now I will speak roundly Honest Mr. Williams I am in a rapture or transport with joy let you and I have a Friendly Debate for I doubt we have been mistaken in one-another and these Gentlemens Opinions of us both true and right I know you are afraid of Crispianism or Antinomianism as well you may a filthy poysonous abominable Weed and I have written against it for which they revile me as they do you and the Apologist I have been much afraid of Arminianism and Socinianism now grown to a great heighth This might make us not so well to understand one-another as else we might Mr. A. A Friendly Debate Gentleman that is a word out of joint and is an unlucky Omen you will talk but little Sence or Truth A Friendly Debate the Phrase is grown odious since Patrick thirty years since wrote his Friendly Debate wherein the friendly Con tells the Noncon He was no good Subject and therefore no good Christian for living in a Corporation or within Five miles of it contrary to Law He brings in the Noncon as a Fool I pray Sir explain your meaning I am not skill'd in definitions And when the Question was whether our white Caps under our black ones might justifie Laun sleeves the Answer is Any thing becomes a good Man On goes Jack to prove the Bishops good men his Comparison of the Gentleman 's praying in the morning at nine of the Clock in the Parlour requiring his Servants to come then and there not in a Stable with clean Clothes Faces and Hands not all dirty was as much to the purpose about Symbolical Ceremonies of human appointment as his Story of the Cupboard of Plate God had and would return to it but it must be well beaten first and that was when the King must pack up and be gone Who I pray sent their King packing since Gentlemen I shall for this reason protest against a Friendly Debate but should be glad to hear a Friendly Conference between you Mr. H. I could wish Mr. Baxter alive were it proper to wish the greatest Saint that ever went to Heaven here on Earth again to see what his reputed Advocate but real Adversary said to take the Chair since his death hath said and written Mr. L. If these men judge right what have I done to be so tenacious of a Phrase Commutation of Persons and so to raise such a Dust to trouble Bishop Stillingfleet and D. Edwards famous Men my Friends as I thought by their Books but your Friends as I find by their Letters And many say our late Controversie is one of the most fruitless ones that ever was brought on the Stage A Story of matter of Fact and a Phrase and my Friends as well as Adversaries say That by my Rashness all is in a flame for tho' we long since lost our Vnion yet our Peace continued but now that is gone too Mr. W. I doubt I have been mistaken too in some things seeing you confess your mistakes I do mine So true is that Incidit in Syllam You ran so fast from the Tents of the Socinians that you might come in some Phrases too nigh the Tents of the Crispians and I ran so fast and far from the Tents of the Crispians that I might err as I am sure you did Mr. L. Who is this that comes towards us with so much Rage and Fury Mr. W. It is Dr. Crisp Mr. A. No that cannot be for I remember that of old they pictur'd him like an old Hermit and had I been a Manichean I should have spent time to consider who made him This looks more comely sure it is not he Mr. W. Why Sir you must know his Son hath been so troubled about it to see his Father pictur'd as if with Cain his maker had set a mark on him that he hath play'd the Barber himself like a kind Son to make his Father look better or if you will less ugly and hath clapt a few tolerable Sermons to make the intolerable Sermons go down the better Dr. C. Have I found you O my two Enemies that have written against my Doctrine You Old-Testament-Daniel and you New-Testament-Stephen some say that as the Old and New Testament make one Bible so you two are one in the main I say as that Heretick Humphreys you two are one in Doctrine tho' you differ in Phrases You are both corrupt tho' I say it on a different account You both deny Justification without Faith and make Gods Covenant a Bargain c. Mr. L. You will find Gentlemen this man cannot express himself he had need get one to do it for him Dr. C. What! do you make me such a Dunce that am a Doctor Mr. A. I have heard of a noted Doctor Head of a House in Oxon in the Interregnum famous for advising young Students never to go into the Water till they first learnt to swim c. That once telling a Story how the Proctor alwaies at night seeing a Candle in his Study said That man will be a Doctor or a Dunce his Servant replied In good truth Master you are both I apply not the Story before a D. in D. Dr. C. Will you deny that there are any good things in my Book Mr. L. In what Book are there not some good things Your Book may therefore be called good as some Philosophers call an Ethiopian white not simpliciter but secundum quid about the Teeth Dr. C. You Mr. L. are neither for Mr. Baxter nor me but have written against us both When some say If he be not in the right I must be so if not I he must be so Mr. L. I have heard of a Captain in our Civil Wars who meeting with a poor man on the Highway asked him who he was for for the Kings Souldiers or the Parliaments and promised him if he spoke his mind no harm should come to him Then Master said the poor man I am for both How so said the Captain Why said he for the hanging of both sorts for Master said he we cannot keep a little Bacon in the House but one comes one time and another at another time till all be gone So say I we cannot keep a little Protestant Doctrine in the Church one pulls one way another another way till all be gone Yet I wisht well to Mr. Baxter's Person and so to yours but to neither of your Doctrine Dr. C. See how Daniel Williams that pure Stick sits there like a Sheep-stealer he hath nothing to say I think my Disciples have done his Work for him and told the World of his lewd Life Mr. A. He hath said so much to you already that he hath done enough for one man and need say no

they do not this and that they shall come under the wrath of God P. 559 Against Qualifications at which I strike on all occasions even Faith it self for they make the Covenant of Grace a Covenant of Works P. 633 I make this notable Remark 16 Luke 20 The young Prodigal return'd to his Father like a Rogue then the Robes were put on him Mr. L. Was not this an excellent Proof No he return'd not like a Rogue neatly phras'd like a D. of D. by the way tho' if you will so untheologically express it he went away like one for it is said before When he came to himself I hope by the way you may in time he was you find so changed there was Humility in his Heart Confessions in his Mouth and a begun Reformation I will arise and go to my Father and will say unto him Father I have sinned against Heaven and before thee and am no more worthy to be called thy Son make me one of thy hired Servants Dr. C. I see you will still be objecting which thing I could never endure being known to be the weakest and feeblest Sect-master that ever was since the Creation But what makes you smile Mr. Alsop Mr. A. To see a man plead for a Faith without Repentance or Sorrow and Sadness and make such Proselytes It puts me in mind what the King of the Ammonites did to David's messengers 2 Sam. 10.4 shaved off one half of their Beards and cut off their Garments to the middle even to their Buttocks and sent them away So you send away and so look your Converts with Faith without Repentance but David bids them tarry at Jericho till their Beards were grown Let Repentance grow else you are not compleat but half Christians Hanun paid dear for what he did and so may you Dr. C. Do you think I am a Witch to answer such a man as you Mr. A. No truly they would do you a great deal of wrong that should so charge you Mr. L. Brother Williams and Brother Alsop let us be gone I care to stay no longer to hear such abominable Phrases Doctrius and Heresies from such a Brainless man Dr. C. Pray Sirs come back I will now endeavour to say something that may please you I said after all p. 638 Good works are comfortable Evidences that we are in Christ Mr. W. Well said Dr. then a man may fetch some comfort from his Graces Consider what Paul said 1 Cor. 2.12 For our rejoycing is this the testimony of our Consciences that in simplicity and godly sincerity we have had our conversation in the World Have you not denied fetching Comfort from hence because all from Christ and argued all-along at such an idle rate as if I preaching in those words 1 Tim. iv 16 So shalt thou save thy self and them that hear thee I should lay down this Doctrine Ministers are their own Saviours and the Saviours of their hearers then God is not their Saviour nor Christ c. Dr. C. I will think of it I said also That Christ draws without an absolute necessary compulsion but draws sweetly and freely to good works Mr. L. What! is the Physick poured down the Throat come to this Dr. C. And p. 676 in the Sermon about the Fast appointed by my good King C. the first whom I there commend I said The end of a Fast is 1. The humbling us for Sin 2. The pleasing of God 3. The averting of Wrath. That Faith that justifies alone stands not alone without good works 685. Then I tell them when a Man sees Christ as the chief of ten thousand and all sair then he comes to him 101. That God hides his Face from a Believer when he harbours Sin 688. Mr. L. But did you not say things over and over and with great Zeal things diametrically opposite Is the justified blind man at the same time a seeing man Sees Christ fair c Sure these be unusual contradictions No doubt Mr. Edwards's Charge in his Crispianism Vnmask'd is too true but I doubt after all this the Vertigo will soon take you again notwithstanding some intervals Mr. L. I doubt Brethren this man makes not a few Atheists or Scepticks Tho' great is their folly that conclude Christ is not of God because we contend about his person and offices As if because there are disputes among Philosophers whether the Sun be 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 whether it heat formaliter or eminenter whether the old Ptolomaicks or new Capernicans be right about the Suns motion or the earths motion therefore should conclude there is no Sun nor Earth neither and so might we name a thousand other things M. W. You speak honestly and soberly good Mr. Lob You know this man's Followers preach up that Conversion changeth not a man's state but nature only Dr. C. Oh how Herod and Pontius Pilate became Friends against Christ how friendly you two are against Free-Grace Mr. A. Lay aside the Comparison of Herod and Pontius Pilate they have served all turns and are grown thread-bare and therefore 't is high time to let them alone Dr. C. Look to your selves I tell you If any man Preach any other Doctrine than I do you know the Consequence as I say in my Book Look yonder here is coming my Brother Toune and my Brother Eaton they will justifie me and knock you all down For some say they write something like sence and truth who will by no means grant that I do Mr. L. What say you Mr. Toune Mr. T. Gentlemen you are men of known worth and therefore you cannot be ignorant that to understand a Polemical man you must consider against whom he writ I wrote against the Arminians Dr. Taylor in particular not against the Calvinists as Crup did whose madness hath ruin'd our Cause he is as 1 Tim. 1.7 a Doctor of the Law and understands not what he says nor whereof he affirms Read worthy Sirs p. 115. of my Book of Free-Grace if p. 33. seems harsh I am not of your opinion great Sirs I modestly confess and be sure not of Crisps for on my principles as well as yours he is guilty of damnable Heresies Dr. C. Bless me Did I send for thee Toune to justifie me and knock down my Enemies and dost thou justifie my Enemies in their Charge against me and knock down me Good Brother Eaton speak one word for me let your lips drop as the Honycomb Mr. W. What say you Mr. Eaton Mr. E. Brethren I hope I may call you so tho' our Heads differ yet I cannot call this tattling prating Dr. so being of your Opinion and Mr. Toune's he is a notorious Heretick for if it please you read the beginning of my Honycomb and you will find I was so far from Crisp's mad definition of Justification that I rather gave one more like yours than his These are my very words Justification is when we feeling what loft creatures we are in our selves and in all our works and