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A84808	Saul's errand to Damascus: with his packet of letters from the high-priests, against the disciples of the Lord. Or, A faithful transcript of a petition contrived by some persons in Lancanshire, who call themselves ministers of the gospel, breathing out threatnings and slaughters against a peaceable & godly people there, by them nick-named Quakers. Together with the defence of the persons thereby traduced, against the slanderous and false suggestions of that petition, and other untruths charged upon them. Published to no other end, but to draw out the bowels of tender compassion from all that love the poor despised servants of Jesus Christ, who have been the scorn of carnal men in all ages.	Fox, George, 1624-1691.; Lawson, John, of Lancaster.	1653 (1653)	Wing F1894; Thomason E689_17; ESTC R206937	30,408	48

to their Ministers and of a People to their God but Opinions we deny for they are without God and there you are and justice and purity is but one and that we set up and owne purity and walking in the Spirit doth make a separation from all uncleanness and can have no fellowship with them who are unfruitful workers of darkness Rom. 1.2 but there is a separation from them the one hath fellowship with God and the other hath fellowship with darkness which be unfruitful the one is separated to God the other is separated from God Object Have drawn much people after them many whereof Men Women and Little-Children at their meetings are strangely wrought upon in their bodies and brought to fall foam at the mouth roar and swell in their bellies Answ The meetings of the people of God 1 Pet. 4.12 Psa 71.7 were ever strange to the world for it was as though some strange thing had happened to the Saints as ye read in the Scripture which shew ye are in the same generation Act. 13.41 wondring and stranging at the work of the Lord despising and casting scandals slanders and false reports upon them and where the works of God are now they think them strange things now as was then who are alive in the flesh Act. 9.4 5. It would be a strange thing to see one now fall downe Dan. 10.9 as Paul fell downe and trembled and as Daniel fell down and trembled and to see one as Habakkuk his belly to tremble and his lips to quiver Hab. 3.16 and as David to lye roaring all the day long who cryed till his sight was grown dim and his flesh failed of fatness and till he could number his bones and to see one as Isaiah to rent his garment and his mantle and pluck his hair off his head and off his beard and sit down astonished Isa 66.5 and would it not be strange to see such an Assembly as came to Isaiah which had all trembling hearts Hear the word of the Lord all ye that tremble at his word Work out your salvation with fear and trembling Before their faces the people shall be much pained Joel 2.6 all faces shall gather blackness The Prophets and Ministers of God have all one Spirit according to measure and did encourage those that did tremble wherein it shews that you have not the same Spirit but seek to persecute and fix scandals and accuse them falsly The Ministery of truth ever drew from all the Ministry of the world and from under all the laws of the world up to God and from all the Gods of the earth and then they witnessed that the Lord was their Law-giver the Lord was their King the Lord was their Judge Object George Fox professed and avowed that he was equal with God Answ It was not so spoken as George Fox was equal with God but the Father and the Son is one John 14.9 10. I and my Father are one and where the same is revealed this is witnessed but where the same is not made manifest and revealed Christ is persecuted for the world knows him not Let the same minde be in you Phil. 2.5 6 7. that was also in Christ Jesus who being in the form of God thought it not robbery to be equal with God and yet made himself of no reputation And this I witness to be fulfilled for the same Spirit where it is is equal with God for he that sanctifieth and they that are sanctified are all of one and it is God that sanctifieth Heb 2.11 Jude 1. Joh. 1.1 1 Cor. 15.47 48. 1 Joh. 3.7 He that hath the Word hath God for God is the Word and our fellowship is with God There is a natural man and there is a spiritual man the the first is of the earth earthly the second is the Lord from heaven the new man which is created after God in righteousness and true holiness and he that doth righteousness is righteous even as he is righteous And this I witness what the Scripture saith Let no man deceive you Object He professeth himself to be the eternal Judge of the world Answ He that was a Minister of God said that the Saints should judge the world 1 Cor. 6.2 3. yea Angels herein they do shew themselves to be no Ministers of God who seek to persecute them who are judged of God and justified by him where judgement is brought forth unto victory Mat. 12.20 and set in the earth and that which is eternal hath judged all the carnal nature in himself and where it is judged thereis no unity with it where it is alive and he that hath not true judgement Mat. 5.13 14. and Salt in himself to savour withall is good for nothing and he cannot endure that Christ should speak where he is made manifest I am the way saith Christ Christ is but one in all his Saints 1 Cor. 11.3 Mar. 13.11 and he speaks in them but he doth not say that George Fox is Christ I am the way the truth the life Christ is the light and ye are the light and Christ liveth in you and Christ is the head of the man and it is the Spirit of the Father that speaketh in you and spoke in Christ and he is but one in in all his Saints Isa 5.20 without are many Christs Lo here and lo there but know you not that Christ is in you except ye be Reprobates and if Christ be in you the body is dead because of sin and there Christ Jesus speaks the same Christ to day yesterday and for ever And thy judgement which is not eternal is carnal and with evil thoughts thou judgest thou puttest darkness for light and light for darkness and here thou shewest thy judgement to be carnal and no Minister of God but a Minister of the Letter and not of the Spirit for the Ministers of the Spirit have true judgement and did imprison none nor persecute as you do but it is that fools may utter forth their folly Object He said he was the way the truth the life Answ The old man cannot endure to hear the new man speak John 14.6 which is Christ and Christ is the way and if Christ be in you must not he say I am the way the truth and the life John 10.4 Now if Antichrist speak he is owned of the world but he cannot witness it while the old man raignes the voice of God is not known nor Christ himself to speak in man but Christs sheep know his voyce Object He said Whosoever took a place of Scripture and made a Sermon of it or from it was a Conjurer and his preaching was Conjuration Answ He that puts the Letter for the light John 8.12 when the Letter saith that Christ is the light he is blind and they that say the Letter and the Spirit are inseparable when the Spirit saith the Letter

us many things against him let him speak and then if he speak not truth you may then reprove him James hearing the desire of the people began to speak and the people gave audience and were very silent But beginning to hold out Christ a lone to be the Teacher of his people inspirit and truth one of the Priests cryed out I cannot endure to hear this Seducer any longer Upon which Iames said Prove me a Seducer before all this people or else thou art a false Accuser But he had not one word to say against any thing that he had spoken But said If thou wilt not answer me that Question I asked thee I will call thee a Seducer as long as I live Whereupon seeing there could be no peace there nor liberty to speak they desired Iames to go into the house and they kept close about him to keep him from the violence of some that came along with the Priest but they raged so that he and some other friends received stripes and with much ado got into the house But the raging Sodomites waited about the dore to do mischiefe and kept shouting about the house all the while he was speaking but the house being filled with People they could not come to their purpose and the Lord so ordered it in the Evening we came away without any more harm but not long after there came some of the Priests party about the house and asked if Nayler was gone and when they heard he was gone they said He may thank God of that Thus by the wisdom of God he escaped their violence at that time But the Priests missing of their purpose there the next first day after they prepared their Sermons sutable to what they intended possessing the people that he was a Blasphemer and denyed the Resurrection and the Humanity of Christ and all Authority and that the Parliament had opened a gap for Blasphemy and as it was said by some of their heaters they did God good service that would knock him down Thus having stirred up the ruder sort the next day they prevailed with one called a Justice of Peace the Priest's son got him to come twelve miles from his owne house he was one that had been in actual arms against the Parliament for the bringing in of the Scots And having armed a great multitude against the next morning they came very early to the house where he was where many Christian friends should have met that day and asked for Nayler threatning to knock out his brains against the stones in the wall and that they would pull down the house if he would not come out though the dore was never shut against them But some of them came into the house and commanded him to come forth under pretence to dispute with the Priest But Iames seeing what they intended answered You did not use me so civilly the last time I was amongst you but if any have a minde they may come in the dores are open Which answer they told the Priests whereupon they rushed violently in and took him by the throat haled him out of the dore into a field where was a man whom they called a Justice and with a Pitchfork struck off his Hat and commanded him to answer to such Questions as the Priests would ask him Whereupon the Priest began to ask many Questions as concerning the Resurrection the Humanity of Christ the Scriptures and divers other Questions as the Sacrament and such-like to which he answered and proved Scripture But at last being asked if Christ was in him he said he witnessed him in measure The Priest asked if Christ was in him as man Iames said Christ is not divided But he urged him to tell whether Christ as man was in him or no. He answered Christ is not divided for if he be he is no more Christ but I witness that Christ in me who is God and man in measure But the Priest said Christ is in heaven with a carnal body To which said Iames Christ filleth Heaven and Earth and is not carnal but spiritual for if Christ be in heaven with a carnal body and the Saints with a spiritual body that is not proportionable neither was that a carnal body which came in among the Disciples the doors being shut for Christ is a Mystery and thou knowest him not Then after much jangling and tempting the Priest not having got the advantage he waited for he cried out unto the people not to receive him into their houses and alledged that in the second Epistle of Iohn verse 10. Now how suitable that place was for his purpose all people may see who have eyes for there they are forbidden to receive any into their houses but such who abide in the Doctrine of Christ and confess themselves that they had both the Father and the Son and preach that Doctrine but the Priests say that is blasphemy Then the Priest turned away from him upon which the armed Multitude began to be violent against divers friends that were there Iames hearing friends cry out said to the Justice You will surely set us peaceably into the house again But seeing him to go away and leave them in the hands of the rude multitude he gave himself up saying The will of the LORD be done Upon which the Justice turned again saying We will see him in the house again and going towards the house many friends kept close about James exposing their own bodies to the danger of their weapons to save him harmeless and so with much ado we got into the house not receiving much harme Which being done and as James was praising the Lord for his wondrous deliverance from their malicious intents some heard them say If we let him go thus all people will run after him Whereupon they agreed that he should be brought before the Justice again and came with violence and haled him out again Then the Justice and the Priest getting a horseback they caused him to run after them to an Alehouse on the other side the water where they went in not suffering one friend to go in with James And when he came before the Justice he told him if he would not put off his hat he would send him to prison and also because he Thoued him for the Justice said My Commission runs Yee To which James answered I do it not in contempt for I own Authority and honour it according to the Scriptures But I finde none such honour commanded in Scripture but forbidden Then they concluded to commit him for that and also as a wandring person and said none there knew from whence he came for those who knew him were kept out Then said he to Arthur Scaife Thou knowest me I was in the Army with thee eight or nine yeers It is no matter said the Justice thou art no Souldier now Then they writ a Mittimus to send him to prison and carried him to KirkbyS-teven that night and shut him up in a

blood of Christ this I witness Object 3. He did disswade men from reading the Scriptures telling them that it is carnal Answ For disswading men from reading the Scriptures that is false for they were given to be read as they are but not to make a Trade upon 1 Cor. 2.10 16. the Letter is carnal and killeth but that which gave it forth is spiritual eternal and giveth life and this I witness Oject 4. That he was equal with God Answ Heb. 2.11 That was not so spoken but that He that sanctifieth and they that are sanctified are of one and the Saints are all one in the Father and the Son of his flesh and of his bone this the Scripture doth witness And ye are the sons of God Eph. 5.30 and the Father and the Son are one and they that are joyned to the Lord are one spirit and they that are joyned to an Harlot are one flesh Object That God taught deceit Answ That is false and was never spoken by me God is pure Object That the Scriptures are Antichrist Answ That is false but that they which profess the Scriptures and live not in the life and power of them as they did that gave them forth that I witness to be Antichrist Object That he was the Judg of the world 1 Cor. 6.2 3. Answ That the Saints shall judge the world the Scripture witness it whereof I am one and I witness the Scripture fulfilled Object That he was as upright as Christ Answ Those words were not so spoken by me 1 Joh. 4.17 2 Cor. 5.21 Ioh. 17.21 22. Eph. 4.11 12 13. but that as he is so are we in this present world That the Saints are made the righteousness of God That the Saints are one in the Father and the Son that we shall be like him 1 Joh. 3.2 and that all teaching which is given forth by Christ is to bring the Saints to perfection even to the measure of the stature of the fulness of Christ This the Scripture doth witness and this I witness Where Christ dwels must not he speak in his Temple Quaeries propounded to George Fox by some of the Contrivers of the Petition and by him Answered Querie WHether there be one individual God distinguished into the Father Son and Holy Ghost or not Answ Herein thou wouldest know whether God be individual yea or no which is but a busie minde for had'st thou the witness in thy self thou wouldst know what he is but the Heathen know not God and all that know him not are Heathen living in the wicked imaginations of their own hearts and that is thy condition For God is a Spirit and none know him but the Son and he to whom the Son is revealed the Son and Word is one He that hath ears to hear let him hear what the Spirit saith for thou natural man thou know'st not the things of God Qu. Whether a believer be justified by Christs righteousness imputed yea or no Answ He that believeth is born of God and he that is born of God is justified by Christ alone without imputation Qu. Whether he that believeth that Christ hath taken away his sin is clean without sin in this life as Christ himself or not Answ He that believeth is born of God and he that is born of God sins not neither can he sin because his seed remaineth in him as he is so are we in this present evil world Qu. Whether a believer be without all sin in this life or not Answ Christ being made manifest is made manifest to take away sin and in him is no sin at all he that abideth in him sins not he that sins is of the Devil and hath not seen him neither known him herein are the children of God made manifest and the children of the Devil All you that read these Queries read these things in your selves whether ye be the children of God or the children of the Devil and whether ye understand what ye write yea or no. Qu. Whether his works as well as his person be perfectly holy and good or no Answ A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit and if the root be holy the branches will be holy also and every one that doth righteousness is righteous even as he is righteous But as for that person it is a busie minde in thee that askst thou knowst not what for God is no respecter of persons he that respecteth persons commits sin and he that commits sin transgresseth the Law Qu. Whether Saints in this life without any addition hereafter are perfectly just perfectly holy compleatly glorious in this life and are not capable of any addition after death in the least degree but only of manifestation Answ If that thou know'st what a Saint is thou would'st know a Saints life for they passed thorow death to life but thou art yet alive to sin and dead to righteousness see if it be not so but he that is dead to sin is alive to righteousness and lives in God and God in him The Lord is our righteousness and he saith Be ye holy as I am holy for without holiness no man shall see the Lord. Be not deceived God will not be mocked Thou hypocrite dissemble not with him he that is perfectly holy is perfectly just where this is revealed there needs no addition for the man of God is perfect Qu. Whether the two Sacraments Baptism and the breaking of Bread ought necessarily to continue in the Church or not Answ Thou askest thou know'st not what concerning two Sacraments which there is no Scripture for Thou askest a question which is an addition to the Scripture and thou that doest add the plagues of God are added to thee Who come into the true Church are baptized with one Spirit into one body but as for sprinkling Infants there 's no Scripture for it I deny it in the true Church of God there is no talk of such carnal things Thou Sot the bread which the Saints break is of the body of Christ he is the bread of life The Church is not the steeple-house but the Church is in God and those that eat the bread of life live for ever the Church is in God and the bread of life is there and it shall continue for ever Qu. Whether Christ in the flesh be a figure or not and if a figure how and in what Answ Christ is the substance of all figures and his flesh is a figure for every one passeth through the same way as he did who comes to know Christ in the flesh there must be a suffering with him before there be a rejoycing with him Christ is an example for all to walk after and if thou knew'st what an example is thou wouldst know what a figure is to come up to the same fulness Qu. Whether there be any heaven or hell for the Elect or Reprobate after death but in man in this life or not Answ There is no knowledge of

These bodies that are dust shall turn to dust but God shall give a body as pleaseth him that which is sown in corruption shall be raised in incorruption it is sown a natural body it is raised a spiritual body Phillip 3.21 Rev. 2.6 and as we have born the Image of the earthly so we shall bear the Image of the heavenly but flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom of heaven neither doth corruption inherit incorruption for we must be changed 1 Cor. 15.20 But they who cannot witness the first Resurrection within themselves know nothing of the second but by hear-say and therefore say some of your Teachers that Christ is in Heaven with a carnal body Now that Christ 1 Cor. 15.47 who is the first fruits should be in Heaven with a carnal body and the Saints with a spiritual body is not proportionable 6. Concerning Magistracy It is an Ordinance of God Ordained for the punishment of evil doers and an incouragement for them that do well Where Justice and Righteousness is the head and ruleth without partiality that Land is kept in peace and those that judge for the Lord I honor as my own life not with a flattering honor putting off the hat and bowing of the knee which is the honor of the world having mens persons in admiration because of advantage for self ends Jude 16. but from my heart for conscience sake as to the power which is of God and not to mens persons for the Scripture saith he that respects persons commits sin Jam. 2.9 Jam. 2.1 2 3 4. and is convinced of the Law as a transgressor and the Apostle Iames commands the Saints not to have the faith of our Lord Jesus Christ the Lord of glory with respect of persons for saith he such are partial in themselves and become Judges of evil thoughts Rom. 13.1 2. And saith Paul Let every soul be subject to the higher power for saith he there is no power but of God the powers that be are ordained of God and that whosoever resisteth the power resisteth the Ordinance of God and saith We must needs be subject Rom. 13.5 for Conscience sake and therefore though the Prophets were often sent by the Lord to pronounce Judgment against unjust men who had the power committed to them and did not judg for God Hosea 5.12 but for self-ends yet they never attempted any violence against them but used all means to perswade them to love mercy Mica 6.8 do justice walk humbly with God that they might be established and the wrath of God turned from them for those that be of God cannot rejoyce in the sufferings of any but would have all to turne and finde mercy 7. Concerning the Ministery The true Ministery of Jesus Christ have always been 2 Pet. 1.21 Eph. 4.7.8 11. and are still such as come not by the will of man but by the will of God neither are they fitted for the work by any thing of man but by God alone for the true Ministery is the gift of Jesus Christ and needs no addition of humane help and learning 1 Cor. 12.7 1 Pet. 4.10 11. but as the work is spiritual and of the Lord so they are spiritually fitted only by the Lord and therefore he chused Herds-men Fisher-men and Plow-men and such-like and as he gave them an immediate call without the leave of man so he fitted them immediately without the help of man and as they received the gift freely Matth. 10.8 so they were to give freely And whenever they found any of the false Ministery that taught for hire they cryed out against them and pronounced woes against them and shewed them that they lay in iniquity Act. 8.20 Joh. 10.13 Mic. 3.10 because they thought that the gift of God could be bought and sold for money and Christ calls them hirelings and saith they care not for the sheep Jer. 5.30 31. Jer. 6.13 and Micah cryes out against the Priests that taught for hire and saith he they build up Sion with blood and Jerusalem with iniquity and Jeremiah cryed out against the Priests in his dayes that bare rule by their means and calls it a horrible thing and saith that from the least of them to the greatest they are all given to covetousness Isa 56.10 11. And Isaiah cryes out against those in his dayes and calls them greedy Dogs that can never have enough and saith he they all look for their gain from their quarter And Peter saith of such as should come 2 Pet. 2.3 that they through covetousness should make merchandise of the people 2 Pet. 2.14 15. and saith they have hearts exercised with covetous practises who have forsaken the right way and have followed the way of Balaam who loved the wages of unrighteousness 2 Cor. 11 15. And Iude cryes Wo unto them for they go on in the way of Cain in his murder Jude 11. and run greedily after the error of Balaam for reward But those that were sent out by Christ 1 Cor. 9.16 17 18 counted it their gain to make the Gospel without charge neither eve● had they any set means but went about having no certain dwelling place never were masters but servants to all for Christs sake 1 Cor. 4. ii nor ever went to Law for Tythes or any other carthly thing Now all people try your Priests by the Scriptures 1 Joh. 2.3 4 5 6. 2 Joh. 9.11 whether they be of God or of the world and never think to hear the Word of the Lord from their mouths who walk contrary to the Scriptures for such were never sent of God for had they been sent of God they would abide in his doctrine 2 John 9.10 11. and saith Iohn Such have not God but he that abideth in the Doctrine of Christ hath both the Father and the Son And if there come any to you and bring not this Doctrine you are forbidden to receive them into your house or bid them God-speed for if you do you are partakers of their evil deeds And unto the wicked saith God What hast thou to do to declare my Statutes Psal 50.16 17. or that thou shouldest take my Covenant into thy mouth seeing thou hatest instruction and castest my words behinde thy back and art a partaker with the Thief the Adulterer Evil-speaking Psal 50.21 Slandering and Deceit and such as these think God to be like themselvs Divers particulars of the persecutions of James Nayler by the Priests of Westmerland I Ames being at a meeting at Edward Briggs house on the first day where many people met he was desired by divers friends to meet the day following at Widow Cocks house about a mile from Kendal whereof the Priests having notice raised the Town of Kendal against him but being long in gathering together the meeting was done but spies being out upon the Steeple top and other places notice was given what