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A44841	The Quakers house built upon the rock Christ Wherein neither their doctrines, principles, nor practices can be confounded, not disproved; being neither damnable, nor pernitious. As Samuel Hammond hath falsly affirmed in his book called, The Quakers house built upon the sand: or, a discovery of the damnablenes of their pernitious doctrins, in his answer to G.W. which to prove, he lays down seven grounds of delusion, and five arguments of damnable doctrine. But in this answer his seven grounds is proved false in themselves, ...; and his five arguments is proved to be his own false positions, ... as first, he lays down false positions, and then proves them false; and then boasts, as if he had proved our doctrines or principles false: the truth of which is herein clearly made manifest, and wherein he falsly accuseth us, he is justly guilty himselfe. Also the ten fundamentall principles or doctrines of the hireling priest-hood, ... By a servant to the Church of Christ, ... Richard Hubberthorne. ...	Hubberthorn, Richard, 1628-1662.	1659 (1659)	Wing H3227A; ESTC R221606	34,515	47

THE QUAKERS HOUSE Built upon the Rock CHRIST Wherein neither their Doctrines Principles nor Practises can be confounded nor disproved being neither damnable nor pernitious As Samuel Hammond hath falsly affirmed in his Book called The Quakers House Built upon the Sand. Or a Discovery of the damnablenes of their pernitious Doctrins in his Answer to G. W. which to prove he lays down seven Grounds of Delusion and five Arguments of Damnable Doctrine But in this Answer his seven Grounds is proved false in themselves if they were as they are not true against us And his five Arguments is proved to be his own false Positions not according to our Doctrine and Principles As first he lays down false Positions and then proves them false and then boasts as if he had proved our Doctrines or Principles false The truth of which is herein clearly made manifest and wherein he falsly accuseth us he is justly guilty himselfe Also the ten Fundamentall Principles or Doctrines of the Hireling Priest-hood here Discovered This is given forth that all those that have wilfully and from pride and presumpt on of spirit opposed the living truth and the breaking-forth of light from the pure everlasting Fountain of life may put their mouthes in the dust and keep silence if so be for them there may be hope For the lying Tongue will God confound but the lipp of Truth will he establish for ever By a Servant to the Church of Christ which is built of tryed and living stones Richard Hubberthorne In the Lord shall all the seed of Israel be justified and shall glory Isay 45. 25. over all the false Prophets which haue deceived the nations among whom is found the blood of the Saints The Quakers House Built upon the Rocke CHRIST c. THe holy Seed which the living Father doth manifest his Life Spirit and Power unto in all Ages hath been and is the reproach of the World and of all them that be strangers to the life of God and to Christs life manifest in the mortall bodies And though this seed be that which the Father hath blessed and hath received the truth and by the truth is set free according to Christs words John 8. 31. yet in the world from slanderous Tongues and false accusations we expect not to be free but to beare his reproaches and in the patience and power of the Lambe to overcome them for God will bring forth our Righteousnesse Truth and Innocency to shine as the light before all people whereby all hard speeches and false reproaches will be wiped away out of the Nations And that shall fulfill and accomplish that which in words we declare and in that are we known to God and shall be known to the world And now seeing that it hath pleased the Father to reveale his Sonne in us and to open the hidden treasures of his life and hath given us of his holy Spirit and the Tongue of the Learned we shall not cease to improve his gift in speaking what we know and testifie what we have seen both by holding forth the truth in the World and by testifying against that in the World which is contrary to it For now hath the living God opened the Fountain of Life abundantly and is drying up the Fountain of words where the life is wanting And the Lord by his eternall Spirit is giving an understanding to many whereby they are able to discern of things that differ and to know every Tree by its Fruit and to try all things by that measure of his light and holy spirit which he hath given them And to that which is of God in all people doe I commit my Testimony to be read and understood Now this from the meek spirit of Christ in Answer to that which from the pride presumption and arrogancy of Hammonds spirit is come forth against the living truth it selfe and the servants of it but every Tongue that riseth up in judgement against us will God confound First S. H. saith That the Quakers House is built upon the Sand c. Answer How is it then that the Sea hath so long roared and listed up its Waves and the Winds hath blown and it is not yet falne Have not you of all Professions joyned together and have not your Voyces been as the Voyce of many Waters against us And have you not been as blustring Winds which if we had regarded we should not have sowne the seed of the Kingdom As the Prophet hath said He that regards the Winde shall not sow Eccl. 11. 4. So if we had regarded your noyses uproars swelling words of Vanity lyes acensations or persecutions we had not been obedient to the Lord nor done his worke But the Lord hath made our persecutors to stumble according to his promise and his enemies are even weary with smiting of his children Ier. 9. 5. And he is giving his power and dominion to his anoynted ones of the whole Earth And hath ordained his arrowes against the persecutors Psal. 7. 13. And in the Lord shall all the Seed of Israel be justified and shall glory Isay 45. 25. in this the day of the Lords power when the life of the holy Child Jesus is appearing in the dark places of the Earth who is the Rock of Ages and the Foundation of many Generations upon which we are built and stand a witnesse against all the unrighteousnesse of men the proofe of which is not because we say so but the appearing and breaking forth of his life and the fruits of his holy spirit shall make it manifest And to all these that desire the knowledge of Gods wayes it will be known perfectly that God is amongst us and that his spirit power and presence is with us Again Sam. Hammond saith That his Book is a discovery of the pernitious and damnable Doctrines of the Quakers And for securing the Saints c. Answer A refuge of lyes will not secure the saints as I shall prove his Book to be neither can he which is in the Doctrine which is pernitious and damnable discover them in others nor to others as I shall prove in that which followeth in reply to his Book And first to begin with his Method which is as he saith First to shew the grounds of the Quakers Delusions Secondly to demonstrate the impossibility of salvation in and by their Principles Thirdly to answer George Whitheads cavills in his Pamphlet as S. H. falsely calls it First cause of Delusion S. H. A spirit of giddinesse hanging loose to the truth and the love of it c. and to prove it he saith That there is three sorts of people that turne Quakers The first are unlearned and unstable and these are they which have been ancient Professors The second sort young men and women which have been under convictions and awakenings of the Law and are come to terrors and shakings and brought into a Covenant of Works c. The third sort such who for covetous ends to

but by him who having made peace through the blood of hi● Crosse by him to reconcile all things unto himselfe by hi● I say whether they be things in Earth or things in Heaven And we that were sometimes enemies in our minds by 〈◊〉 works yet now hath he reconciled In the body of his flesh through death to present us holy and unblama●le in his sight 〈◊〉 1. 20 21. 22. and this is our test●mony concerning our reconc●li●●ion by Christ alone not by any thing else whereby all our accuse●s may be put to silence from their boasting against us without a ground Hammonds fourth Argument to prove ou● Doctrine damnable is Pr. That we take men off from going to the fulnesse of Christ as the right hand of God for teaching and send them to looke to the light within them Ans. Our turning people to the light within them doth not take them off from the fulnesse of Christ nor his teachings for the light within is a measure of his fulnesse by it he teaches and people must be brought to his light 〈◊〉 in before ever they witnesse his teachings or fulnesse and by his light within they see him at the right hand of God and never till they he turned to the light within doe they perceive his fulnesse nor his glory and so that this is a weak Argument against us to prove our Doctrine damnable but rather that Doctrine is damnable which keeps people from the light within and so from the teachings of Christ and from his fulnesse and from seeing him at the right hand of the Majesty on high and all that know Christ in any measure of his light or have received of his fulnesse will be a witnesse against thee in this thy Argument to say that turning people to the light within is to take them off from Christs fulnesse which is just the contrary to bring men to it Hammonds last Argument to prove our Doctrine damnable is Pr. The casting off of all the known Ordinances of Christ A●s This was thy seventh ground of delusion against us and now it thy last Argument of our damnable Doctrine and if thou will but set thy seven grounds and five Arguments over again they will be foure and twenty and so thou may inlarge thy Volume by mentioning one thing often over But in answer to thee in stead of casting off all we own all the known Ordinances of Jesus Christ And again thou sayst there are other dangerous Principles that thou might mention as that of Perfection by improving the light within Ans. We never held perfection neither by nor for improving the light within and if there were any other things thou had against us we doe not question but thou would bring them forth But if that was a dangerous Principle to Preach Perfection then Christ was a dangerous man to be either beleeved or followed For he said Be ye perfect as your Father which is in Heaven is perfect And be ye holy as I am holy And some said that he was a good man but there was some that was of Hammonds spirit in those dayes and said that he deceived the people and said that those that followed him then was accursed and they had as good grounds to prove them accursed that followed him then as Hammond hath to prove us in delusion that follows him now For in those dayes they might have said against them that followed Christ that they Preached the light within and turned people to the light within and Christ within Col. 1. 27. and told of having the righteousnesse of the Law fulfilled in them and of the word of Faith in their hearts to obey it and doe ●it Rom. 10 and as Christ suffered the contradiction of sinners then so must we doe now And the Apostle Paul he Preached Wisedom among those that was perfect and let as many as be perfect be thus minded and John said He that is borne of God doth not commit sin neither can he sin because the seed of God remaines in him 1 John 3. 9. and he that commits sin is of the Devill and hath not seen God neither known him and in this the children of God is manifest and the children of the Devill whosoever doth not righteousnesse is not of God neither he that loveth not his brother but he that doth righteousnesse is righteous even as he is righteous Now by Hammonds spirit the Apostles Doctrine and Writings is dangerous Principles and if they were in their righteous lives and conversations upon the Earth they would be scorned and reproached as they were then and their Writings would be called Pamphlets but in that life which they were in doe we reigne over all our Enemies shewing love to them that shew cruelty to us and doing good to them that despighfully use us and Pray that God may forgive them that have falsly accused us for they know not what they doe Pr. Againe Samuel Hammond in the 11. page of thy Book thou takes the Lord to witnesse that thou hast not any desire to passe sentence upon us Ans. Dost thou think that all people is blind or that God will be a witnesse to thy lyes God is righteous and true and so is all that he bears witnesse unto Hast thou not in these twelve particulars before mentioned given sentence upon us to be in thē grounds of delusion and damnable Principles and Doctrines And hast thou not given sentence upon us to be one with the Soc●●ian and with the Papist pag. 4. and pag. 〈◊〉 Oh! what a confusion is here what hast thou been doing in thy Book to prove our House Built upon the Sand and saith 〈◊〉 there is no possibility of salvation for 〈◊〉 living and dying in these Principles And yet takes God to witnesse that thou hast not any desire to passe senience against us Hast thou done all this against thy desire or dost thou find God a witnesse against thy passing sentence upon us Thou sayes that it hath been upon thy thoughts severall years in the same page that a man living and dying in our Principles cannot be saved and this is passing sentence upon us Was it so long upon thy thoughts and never in thy desires Here thou would seem to speak Mysteries to people but the ground of thy Mystery is easily seen to be thy lying imaginations whereby when thou hast done evill would excuse thy selfe by pleading ignorance but in this God will witnesse against thee not for thee Now having cleared our Principles and Doctrines from the guilt of all thy grounds of delusion and Arguments of 〈◊〉 Doctrines against us and thy grounds in themselves to be 〈◊〉 I shall speak something as to thy words in 〈◊〉 to G. W. of those things of which thou hast accused him falsly art thou guilty viz. of rayling words and passionate 〈◊〉 calling his words of truth to thee a Dung hill and full of ●itter rayling and that his Pen and Spirit is dipt in the gall of

that the letter must give the Knowledge of the spirit when as the true Ministers said That it was the spirit that gave the Knowledge of God and of the Scriptures as all that know God will confesse Priests third Principle That immediate Revelation or Inspiration is not to be expected nor looked for in these dayes and ●hat to expect it is Diabolicall or Divelish Ans. Then there is no Knowledge of the Father to be expected nor looked for in these dayes and to expect the Knowledge of God to be revealed is Diabolicall but this is contrary to Christs words for saith Christ Mat. 11. ●7 No man knoweth the Sonne but the Father neither knoweth any man the Father but the Sonne and he to whom the Sonne will reveale him and they that would not have us to expect to have the Father revealed unto us by the Sonne this i● a damnable Doctrine and we cannot beleeve them For revealed things belong to us as the Apostle said and it pleaseth the Father to reveale his Sonne in us and it pleaseth the Sonne to reveale the Father to us and by the Sonne we know the Father and the Scripture testifies of those things but doth not reveale those things unto any And they are they which testifies of me saith Christ Iohn 5. 39. Priests fourth Principle That that which is contained or Written in the Bible which appears visibly to the externall sences is the Gospel Ans. Nay For Christ the power of God who is the riches of the glory of this Mistery which was hid from Ages and Generations which was Christ in them the hope of glory is the Gospel which the Apostles Preached Col. 1. 26. 27. 28. And the Apostle said If our Gospel be hid it is hid to those that are lost whom the god of the world hath blinded their minds lest the light of the glorious Gospel of Christ which is the Image of God should shine in their hearts 2 Cor. 4. 3. 4. Now the Gospel which was the Mistery was hid to the unbeleevers but the unb●l●●v●rs can see the Bible with their exter●all Eye and heare it with their exte●nall Ea●e and yet the Gospel hid unto them so that is not the Gospel which the naturall man with his naturall carnall externall sences 〈◊〉 s●e or heare and so these Principles is false and contrary to the Scriptures which hold such things Priests fifth Principle That the Flesh of Christ is not in them Ans. Then wh●● is that flesh which Christ saith Except ye eate my flesh and drinke my blood ye have no lefe in you John 6. 53. And whosoever eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood hath eternall life and I will rayse him up at the last day For my flesh is meat indeed and my blood is drink indeed He that eateth my flesh and drinketh my blood dwelleth in me and I in him As the living Father hath sent me and I live by the Father so he that eateth me even he shall live by me John 6. 54. 45. 56. 57. Here you have made it manifest that the flesh of Christ you know not you are not flesh of his flesh and bone of his bone as the Saints was neither doe you dwell in him nor he in you neither have ye eternall life in you by eating of his flesh and drinking of his blood But we that are in Christ and he in us as he liveth by the Father so we live by him and his flesh to us is meat indeed and his blood is drinke indeed and we doe witnesse his flesh to be spirituall and not carnall as you say and it feeds the spirituall man and so have eternall life abiding in us But you that know nothing but carnall flesh which the carnall man feeds upon as Christ said to the Pharisees so say I unto you that you have not his Word abiding in you John 5. 38 and ye have neither heard his voyce nor seen his shape ver. 37. nor known his flesh Priests sixth Principle That Christ had and hath a naturall carnall Body and is in Heaven with a naturall carnall Body and hath an humane carnall fleshly Body joyned to his Divinity and is in Heaven with it Ans. This Principle is contrary to the Testimony of Scripture for there is no such thing said of Christ in the Scriptures that he is in Heaven with such a Body For the Scripture saith there is a naturall body and there is a spirituall Body 1 Cor. 15. 44. And that there are celestiall bodies and bodies terrestriall and the glory of the celestiall is one and the glory of the terrestria● is another And that it is sowne a naturall body but is raysed a spirituall body The 〈◊〉 Adam was of the Earth ●a●thy the second was the ●ord from Heaven Howbeit that was not first which is sp●ritu●ll but that which is naturall and afterward that which is spirituall Now we say that Christ was raysed with a spirituall body and is at the right hand of his Majesty on high in a spirituall glorified body and not in a carnall fleshly naturall body For the terrestriall body of the first Adam in the transgression was naturall carnall and fleshly and this was the vile body which was to be changed And we doe beleeve that the bodies shall be changed from naturall carnall and fleshly and made lik● unto his glorious body in which he is in Heaven And this which you have held in this particular is concrary to the Scriptures and the Apostles Doctrine and also contrary to the judgement of many of your own Priests and Brethren For they hold that the bodies shall be made spirituall and that the Saints must enter into Heaven with glorified Bodies And if the Saints must be in Heaven with spirituall glorified bodies and Christ with a naturall carnall fleshly Body this is not proportionable nor according to truth Priests seventh Principle That Timothy received not the Gospel from God but from ●an viz. from Paul Ans. Then it would but have been of little effect to them that heard it from him but I shall bring in Paul as a witnesse against you in this For Paul saith to Timothy Neglect not the gift that is in thee which was given thee by Prophosie 〈◊〉 Tim. 4. 14. so that his gift came by Prophesie from the spirit of the Lord and not from Paul though Paul was a Father unto him And againe Paul said Stirre up the gift of God which is in thee For God hath not given us the spirit of feare but of power of love and a sound mind 2 Tim. 1. 6. 7. so that Timothy received his Gospel from God by the spirit of his power and of love and from the gift of God in him he Preached and not from man her by man And cursed be the deceivers which would draw people from the Gospel of God unto mans Traditions as such Priests seek to doe Now if you had onely said that you have not received any Gospel from God

but from man many would have beleeved you for they know it is so but when you charge your own guilt upon the Apostle and say that he did not receive the Gospel from God but from man herein many wi●l beare witnesse against you for they know and beleeve to the contrary Priests eighth Principle That Gr●ce cannot be conveyed to any man from the Lord 〈◊〉 it 〈◊〉 the ordinary outward means of Preaching Ans. This is to limit God from his spirit and power within and Word in the heart as Rom. 10. to outward Preaching and to ordinary outward means this is blasphemy● as to say that God cannot convey Grace to any man but ●y outward Preaching And if you meane by your outward Preaching the Grace of God hath appeared to all men where your outward Preaching never came But in this all people may see your darknesse and that your offence is not onely against us but against the Apostles and against God himselfe for giving his Grace freely to people who will not be limited by you And by such Doctrines as these the Lord God hath made you to appeare as you are an ill savour in the Nation who goes not about onely to keep people from the gift of God in them but also to limit God from giving good gifts to his children who by the free Grace of God received from him without your outward Preaching shall witnesse against you and your outward Teaching by which he never conveyed 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Priests ninth Principle That the light spoken of in John 1. which enlightens every man c. is not sufficient to leade up to Christ Ans. In him was life and the life was the light of men Iohn 1. 4. And this was the true light which lightene●● every man that commeth into the World ver. 9. Now let all people consider whether the life of Christ which is the light of men be not able to leade to Christ or to the Father For he was the light of men that all men through him might beleeve ver. 7. And here is Christ and his light ●ccused yea his life accused not to be sufficient so it is no great matter if by those men we be accused when neither the Father nor the Sonne nor the holy Apostles of our Lord Iesus Christ can escape their accusation but we are not greater then they and so with patience we shall beare it for it is enough for the servant to be be as his Lord Priests tenth Principle That they know no such thing as Prophesie by immediate Inspiration or Revelation in these dayes Ans. No How should you know any Prophesie by Inspiration that knows not how God can give any Grace but by outward Preaching so you are farre from the gift of Prophesie who are yet ignorant of the spirit of Grace by which God gives Grace unto his children But though you know no such thing yet there is such a thing and the Lord is faithfull who hath promised Ieel 2. that he will powre out his Spirit upon Sonnes and Daughters Servants and Hand maids and they shall Prophesie And there is both Sonnes and Daughters Servants and Hand-maids that now doe Prophesie And there is no Prophesie but by immediate Inspiration And because that Sonnes and Daughters doe now Prophesie being Inspired by the holy Ghost and from the gift of God received therefore is your envy and rag● so great against them because you know no Prophesie nor no Gospel from God but from man and so you are contrary to the Apostles For he would have had Prophesying in the Church and bid them covet to Prophesie But these Priests forbid to Prophesie contrary to the Apostles Doctrine and Writing 1 Cor. 14. 39. Now when people ●ath tryed you What can they expect from you that knowe no Prophesie by Inspiration nor knows no Gospel from G●d nor knowes not the flesh of Christ nor no sufficiency in his light nor his spirituall Body which is in Heaven nor the Gospel which is the power of God nor no Knowledge of God by the Revelation of his Sonne and these being your maine Fundamentall Principles in which you so blasphemously are erred from the Truth it is now high ●nto to turne away from such for many people have been deceived by you for they had thought that you had had the Knowledge of those things which now it is manifest you are ignorant of And now blessed be the God of the spirits of all flesh who hath discovered your ignorance and blindnesse which for a time was hid under a pretence of words but now he hath rent the Vayle of the Covering and he is drying up the Fountaine of your Imaginations from whence your empty Words have proceeded that his life may have place in the Earth which is now breaking forth amongst his Children which are come to the Fathers Teachings which you have laboured to keep them from But now hath the Lord loosed their bands and brought them to his owne Teachings and into his owne Fould where they need no more your false meanings nor cousenings of those words which the Spirit of the Lord inspired in them which gave them forth And the Everlasting Day of God is broken forth upon us though Night be come upon you that you have no Vision and the secrets and Councels of the Lord is shut up from you that you have not a Word from his Mouth But truely the Lord is good to Israel even to them that be of an upright heart And the Lord is with us as a mighty terrible one therefore our persecutors shall stumble and they shall not prevaile they shall be greatly ashamed they shall not prosper their everlasting confusion shall never be forgotten Ieremiah 20. 21. For now is the Lord establishing his Everlasting Covenant with his seed even his Covenant of life and peace with those in whom the Law of truth is in their Hearts and iniquity not found in their l●pps who walk with God in peace and equity and doe turne many away from their iniquities Mal. 2. 5. 6. And this shall all they witnesse that feare the Lord and that walke in the way of his Righteousnesse FINIS