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jewish_a law_n for_o to_o distinguish_v in_o like_a sort_n those_o which_o be_v corporal_o spring_v from_o abraham_n &_o to_o discern_v they_o from_o other_o nation_n the_o other_o spiritual_a imperavit_fw-la say_v joseph_n ahae_n ut_fw-la genitalia_fw-la circumcideret_fw-la voluit_fw-la enim_fw-la deus_fw-la ut_fw-la genus_fw-la eius_fw-la non_fw-la permisceretur_fw-la alijs_fw-la gentibus_fw-la and_o for_o this_o cause_n all_o the_o time_n they_o be_v in_o the_o wilderness_n those_o that_o be_v bear_v be_v not_o circumcise_v because_o they_o be_v not_o mingle_v with_o other_o nation_n as_o s._n hierom_n &_o damascen_n do_v observe_v whereas_o baptism_n have_v but_o one_o only_a use_n which_o be_v spiritual_a the_o bare_a circumstance_n of_o circumcision_n conclude_v nothing_o that_o have_v any_o necessary_a consequence_n for_o baptism_n d._n tillenus_n his_o answer_n we_o do_v not_o reason_n of_o the_o bare_a circumstance_n of_o circumcision_n but_o of_o the_o substance_n for_o we_o 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baptism_n and_o therefore_o both_o the_o one_o &_o the_o other_o must_v be_v instruct_v when_o he_o be_v capable_a thereof_o in_o abraham_n who_o be_v adopt_v into_o the_o covenant_n in_o a_o perfect_a age_n knowledge_n instruction_n and_o faith_n go_v before_o the_o sacrament_n but_o in_o isaac_n bear_v in_o the_o covenant_n the_o sacrament_n go_v before_o knowledge_n because_o according_a to_o the_o promise_n he_o be_v repute_v the_o child_n of_o god_n from_o his_o mother_n womb_n so_o we_o do_v not_o confer_v baptism_n to_o the_o child_n of_o a_o jew_n or_o a_o pagan_a &_o we_o blame_v the_o church_n of_o rome_n which_o commit_v this_o abuse_n prostitute_v the_o sign_n of_o the_o covenant_n to_o those_o that_o be_v not_o comprehend_v therein_o not_o stay_v till_o they_o may_v enter_v into_o it_o by_o knowledge_n &_o faith_n which_o be_v as_o great_a a_o mockery_n as_o to_o set_v a_o seal_n to_o a_o paper_n wherein_o there_o be_v nothing_o write_v the_o b._n of_o eureux_fw-fr 4._o 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circumcise_v the_o foreskin_n of_o your_o flesh_n and_o it_o shall_v be_v a_o sign_n of_o the_o covenant_n between_o i_o and_o you_o this_o be_v a_o word_n as_o express_o write_v as_o that_o which_o the_o institution_n of_o baptism_n contain_v 8.19_o 8.19_o baptise_v all_o nation_n in_o the_o name_n of_o the_o father_n of_o the_o son_n and_o of_o the_o holy_a ghost_n he_o which_o say_v tolle_fw-la verbum_fw-la non_fw-la est_fw-la baptismus_fw-la take_v away_o the_o word_n it_o be_v no_o baptism_n say_v also_o accedat_fw-la verbum_fw-la ad_fw-la elementum_fw-la &_o fiat_fw-la sacramentum_fw-la add_v the_o word_n to_o the_o element_n and_o it_o become_v a_o sacrament_n as_o in_o baptism_n the_o pronunciation_n of_o the_o sacramental_a word_n be_v ground_v on_o the_o institution_n of_o jesus_n christ_n so_o circumcision_n be_v not_o to_o be_v administer_v without_o speak_v of_o the_o use_n and_o efficacy_n of_o the_o same_o as_o appeareth_z by_o the_o example_n of_o joshuah_n above_o 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the_o eucharist_n but_o only_o spiritual_o inasmuch_o as_o we_o eat_v it_o with_o contrition_n and_o bitterness_n for_o our_o fault_n and_o as_o pilgrim_n and_o passenger_n in_o this_o world_n journey_v into_o another_o life_n so_o the_o temporal_a infancy_n to_o which_o circumcision_n be_v apply_v may_v have_v his_o correspondency_n to_o baptism_n only_o in_o the_o spiritual_a infancy_n by_o which_o we_o must_v become_v child_n for_o to_o be_v baptize_v according_a to_o the_o say_n of_o our_o saviour_n if_o you_o become_v not_o as_o little_a child_n you_o shall_v not_o enter_v into_o the_o kingdom_n of_o heaven_n and_o therefore_o to_o those_o that_o be_v already_o hoary_a with_o olld_a age_n they_o do_v not_o stick_v in_o the_o primitive_a church_n to_o give_v honey_n and_o milk_n to_o eat_v ad_fw-la significandum_fw-la infantiam_fw-la say_v s._n hierom._n by_o which_o mean_v the_o argument_n will_v hold_v good_a to_o conclude_v thus_o circumcision_n be_v give_v to_o those_o which_o 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