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indian_a say_v thus_o 124._o julian_n be_v a_o unbelieved_n emperor_n be_v he_o not_o a_o apostata_fw-la a_o oppressor_n and_o a_o idolator_n christian_n soldier_n serve_v that_o unbelieved_n emperor_n when_o they_o come_v to_o the_o cause_n of_o christ_n they_o will_v acknowledge_v no_o lord_n but_o he_o that_o be_v in_o heaven_n when_o he_o will_v have_v they_o worship_v idol_n &_o sacrifice_n they_o prefer_v god_n before_o he_o but_o when_o he_o say_v go_v forth_o to_o fight_v invade_v such_o a_o nation_n they_o present_o obey_v they_o distinguish_v their_o eternal_a lord_n from_o their_o temporal_a and_o yet_o be_v they_o subject_v even_o unto_o their_o temporal_a lord_n for_o his_o sake_n that_o be_v their_o eternal_a lord_n and_o master_n thus_o he_o and_o can_v any_o thing_n be_v speak_v more_o clear_o for_o we_o and_o for_o our_o cause_n than_o this_o for_o even_o this_o do_v we_o offer_v to_o our_o king_n &_o sovereign_a prince_n we_o will_v serve_v he_o we_o will_v obey_v he_o we_o will_v go_v to_o war_n with_o he_o we_o will_v fight_v for_o he_o and_o we_o will_v do_v all_o other_o office_n belong_v to_o temporal_a duty_n but_o when_o the_o cause_n of_o christ_n come_v in_o hand_n who_o be_v lord_n of_o our_o conscience_n or_o any_o matter_n concern_v the_o same_o or_o our_o religion_n there_o we_o do_v as_o s._n augustine_n here_o appoint_v we_o prefer_v our_o eternal_a king_n before_o our_o temporal_a and_o like_v to_o these_o be_v all_o the_o other_o place_n of_o father_n cite_v by_o he_o who_o distinguish_v express_o between_o the_o temporal_a honour_n and_o allegiance_n due_a to_o the_o emperor_n 23._o and_o the_o other_o of_o our_o religion_n &_o conscience_n belong_v only_o to_o god_n and_o to_o that_o plain_a sense_n be_v tertullians_n word_n cite_v by_o the_o apologer_n scap._n we_o honour_v the_o emperor_n in_o such_o sort_n as_o be_v lawful_a for_o we_o and_o expedient_a for_o he_o as_o a_o man_n second_o after_o god_n and_o as_o have_v receive_v from_o god_n whatsoever_o he_o be_v and_o only_o lâ—sse_a thâ—n_n god_n and_o will_v not_o the_o catholic_n of_o england_n use_v this_o speech_n also_o unto_o their_o king_n or_o will_v the_o apologer_n himself_o deny_v that_o tertullian_n here_o mean_v nothing_o else_o but_o in_o temporal_a affair_n for_o somuch_o as_o the_o emperor_n at_o that_o time_n be_v heathen_n &_o gentile_n and_o consequent_o be_v noâ—_n to_o be_v obey_v in_o any_o point_n against_o christian_a faith_n or_o religion_n the_o like_a plain_a sense_n have_v the_o word_n of_o justinâ—â—_n martyr_n to_o the_o emperor_n himself_o imperaâ—_n cite_v here_o in_o the_o three_o place_n to_o wit_n we_o only_o adore_v god_n and_o in_o all_o thing_n we_o cheerful_o perform_v service_n to_o you_o prosess_v you_o to_o be_v emperor_n and_o prince_n of_o man_n and_o do_v not_o all_o english_a catholic_n say_v the_o same_o at_o this_o day_n &_o in_o all_o other_o thing_n that_o concern_v not_o god_n &_o his_o obedience_n by_o rule_n of_o catholic_a religion_n they_o offer_v cheerful_o to_o serve_v his_o majesty_n acknowledge_v he_o to_o be_v their_o liege_n lord_n and_o king_n &_o inferior_a only_o to_o god_n in_o his_o temporal_a government_n and_o how_o then_o be_v these_o and_o such_o other_o place_n bring_v in_o for_o witness_n as_o though_o they_o have_v somewhat_o to_o say_v against_o we_o epist._n the_o other_o two_o sentence_n in_o like_a manner_n cite_v out_o of_o optatus_n and_o s._n ambrose_n the_o first_o say_v that_o over_o the_o emperor_n there_o be_v none_o but_o only_o god_n that_o make_v the_o emperor_n and_o the_o other_o that_o tear_n be_v his_o weapon_n against_o the_o arm_n and_o soldier_n of_o the_o emperor_n that_o he_o neither_o aught_o nor_o can_v resist_v neither_o of_o they_o do_v make_v
so_o take_v there_o by_o the_o council_n but_o for_o inferior_a order_n â—nder_v subdeacon_n which_o be_v the_o first_o of_o the_o three_o that_o exclude_v marriage_n this_o be_v see_v by_o many_o canon_n as_o namely_o by_o the_o 40._o which_o begin_v thus_o omnes_fw-la clerici_fw-la vel_fw-la lectores_fw-la sive_fw-la levitae_n &_o sacerdotes_fw-la detonso_fw-la superiùs_fw-la capite_fw-la toto_fw-la inserius_fw-la solam_fw-la circuli_fw-la coronam_fw-la relinquant_fw-la all_o clark_n and_o reader_n as_o also_o deacon_n and_o priest_n cut_v of_o all_o the_o hair_n of_o the_o upper_a part_n of_o their_o head_n let_v they_o leave_v in_o the_o low_a part_n only_o the_o crown_n of_o a_o circle_n here_o you_o see_v that_o clerici_fw-la &_o sacerdotes_fw-la be_v distinct_a degree_n priest_n you_o see_v also_o this_o ceremony_n of_o discipline_n in_o that_o church_n of_o spain_n will_n m._n barlow_n confess_v that_o his_o church_n agree_v in_o this_o the_o title_n also_o of_o the_o 67._o canon_n be_v de_fw-fr cupiditate_fw-la episcopi_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la uâ—l_a diacomi_n sieve_n clericorum_fw-la of_o the_o covetousness_n of_o a_o bishop_n of_o a_o priest_n or_o deacon_n or_o clark_n whereby_o be_v evident_a that_o in_o the_o counsel_n sense_n priest_n deacon_n and_o clerk_n be_v distinct_a order_n in_o the_o church_n and_o consequent_o though_o the_o council_n do_v say_v that_o clark_n may_v not_o take_v wife_n without_o the_o consent_n of_o their_o bishop_n yet_o their_o meaning_n be_v not_o that_o may_v take_v wife_n with_o the_o say_a consent_n so_o as_o in_o this_o m._n barlow_n be_v false_a and_o know_v that_o he_o deceive_v when_o he_o translate_v clerici_fw-la for_o priest_n but_o now_o for_o the_o second_o point_n that_o he_o must_v needs_o know_v also_o that_o the_o meaning_n of_o this_o council_n can_v not_o be_v that_o priest_n may_v marry_v by_o allowance_n of_o the_o bishop_n i_o prove_v it_o thus_o for_o that_o this_o council_n do_v make_v profession_n to_o follow_v their_o ancestor_n and_o forefather_n decree_n and_o we_o find_v register_v in_o a_o ancient_a spanish_a council_n hold_v three_o hundred_o year_n before_o this_o call_v elibertinum_n this_o canon_n which_o be_v the_o 33._o of_o the_o say_a council_n placuit_fw-la in_o totum_fw-la prohibere_fw-la episcopis_fw-la praebyteris_fw-la diaconibus_fw-la &_o subdiaconibus_fw-la positis_fw-la in_o ministâ—rio_n abstinere_fw-la se_fw-la coniugibus_fw-la suis_fw-la &_o nâ—n_o gâ—nerare_fw-la filios_fw-la quod_fw-la quicumque_fw-la â—ecerit_fw-la ab_fw-la honore_fw-la clericatus_fw-la extermiâ—etur_fw-la it_o seem_v good_a to_o the_o council_n whole_o to_o forbid_v all_o bishop_n priest_n deacon_n &_o subdeacons_n place_v in_o ministry_n that_o they_o abstain_v themselves_o from_o their_o wife_n and_o beget_v no_o child_n and_o whosoever_o shall_v do_v the_o contrary_a let_v he_o be_v cast_v out_o of_o the_o clergy_n priest_n after_o this_o again_o in_o another_o council_n of_o toledo_n which_o be_v the_o second_o hold_v some_o hundred_o year_n before_o this_o four_o the_o mater_fw-la be_v determine_v in_o the_o very_a first_o canon_n thus_o speak_v of_o young_a man_n that_o pretend_v to_o take_v holy_a order_n &_o to_o be_v priest_n vbi_fw-la octawm_fw-la decimum_fw-la aetatis_fw-la suae_fw-la compleverint_fw-la annum_fw-la etc._n etc._n when_o they_o shall_v be_v full_a eighteen_o year_n of_o age_n let_v the_o bishop_n in_o the_o presence_n of_o the_o clergy_n and_o people_n search_v their_o will_n about_o desire_n of_o marriage_n &_o then_o if_o by_o the_o inspiration_n of_o god_n the_o grace_n of_o chastity_n shall_v please_v they_o and_o they_o shall_v answer_v that_o they_o will_v keep_v their_o promise_n make_v of_o chastity_n without_o conjugal_a necessity_n then_o let_v these_o man_n as_o desirous_a of_o a_o most_o strait_a way_n be_v admit_v under_o the_o most_o sweet_a and_o easy_a yoke_n of_o our_o saviour_n and_o first_o let_v they_o take_v the_o ministry_n of_o subdeacon_n at_o 20._o â—eares_n of_o age_n after_o the_o probation_n have_v of_o their_o constancy_n and_o at_o 25._o year_n let_v they_o take_v the_o office_n of_o deacon_n cavendum_fw-la tamene_a he_o ne_fw-la quando_fw-la suae_fw-la sponsionis_fw-la immemores_fw-la ad_fw-la terrenas_fw-la nuptias_fw-la ultrà _fw-la recurrant_fw-la yet_o must_v these_o man_n take_v heed_n least_o be_v at_o any_o time_n forgetful_a of_o their_o promise_n or_o band_n they_o do_v run_v back_o to_o earthly_a marriage_n by_o these_o two_o more_o ancient_a counsel_n then_o of_o spain_n not_o to_o speak_v of_o other_o we_o may_v see_v what_o can_v be_v the_o sense_n of_o this_o four_o of_o toledo_n concern_v marriage_n of_o priest_n as_o also_o what_o be_v mean_v by_o that_o direction_n give_v in_o the_o 26._o canon_n ut_fw-la quando_fw-la presbyteri_fw-la aut_fw-la diaconi_fw-la per_fw-la parochias_fw-la constituunâ—â—_n â—pâ—rtet_fw-la eos_fw-la primùm_fw-la professionem_fw-la episcopo_fw-la svo_fw-la facere_fw-la ut_fw-la castè_fw-fr &_o purè_fw-la â—iâ—ant_fw-la when_o priest_n or_o deacon_n be_v appoint_v throughout_o parish_n they_o must_v first_o make_v profession_n unto_o their_o bishop_n that_o they_o will_v live_v chaste_o and_o pure_o the_o council_n do_v not_o say_v here_o that_o they_o may_v take_v wife_n with_o the_o bishop_n consent_n as_o be_v say_v of_o clerici_fw-la before_o wherefore_o in_o both_o these_o point_n i_o mean_v as_o well_o in_o this_o translation_n as_o in_o the_o main_a assertion_n that_o then_o it_o be_v lawful_a for_o priest_n to_o have_v wife_n m._n barlow_n deal_v fraudulent_o i_o will_v not_o cite_v other_o counsel_n hold_v both_o before_o and_o after_o this_o both_o in_o spain_n &_o elsewhere_o concern_v this_o matter_n as_o before_o that_o of_o toledo_n the_o three_o about_o the_o year_n 589._o that_o of_o lion_n 5â—6_n that_o of_o tâ—uâ—rs_n 570._o that_o of_o orleaâ—ce_n 587._o as_o also_o after_o let_v the_o reader_n view_v the_o 8._o and_o 9_o of_o toledo_n about_o the_o year_n 656._o and_o 657._o that_o of_o shalons_n in_o france_n the_o very_a next_o year_n after_o yet_o can_v i_o not_o pretermyt_n one_o canon_n of_o the_o foresaid_a three_o council_n of_o toledo_n hold_v upon_o the_o point_n of_o fifty_o year_n before_o this_o four_o canon_n whereof_o we_o now_o talk_v which_o three_o council_n of_o toledo_n in_o the_o five_o canon_n have_v these_o word_n câ—mpertum_fw-la â—st_fw-la à _fw-la sancto_fw-la concilio_n etc._n etc._n it_o be_v understand_v by_o this_o holy_a council_n that_o certain_a bishop_n priest_n and_o deacon_n come_v from_o heresy_n do_v continue_v to_o have_v carnal_a desire_n and_o copulation_n with_o their_o wife_n and_o to_o the_o end_n this_o may_v not_o be_v do_v hereafter_o it_o be_v command_v by_o the_o council_n as_o also_o it_o have_v be_v determine_v in_o former_a canon_n that_o it_o be_v not_o lawful_a for_o they_o to_o live_v together_o in_o carnal_a society_n but_o that_o so_o long_o as_o conjugal_a faith_n do_v â—â—mayne_v between_o they_o they_o may_v have_v care_n one_o of_o the_o other_o common_a utility_n but_o yet_o not_o dwell_v together_o in_o one_o â—oome_n or_o if_o their_o virtue_n be_v such_o as_o may_v seem_v to_o have_v noâ—_n peril_n yet_o let_v they_o place_v their_o wife_n in_o another_o house_n that_o their_o chastity_n may_v have_v testimony_n both_o before_o god_n and_o man_n and_o if_o any_o man_n after_o this_o ordination_n will_v choose_v rather_o to_o live_v scandalous_o with_o his_o wife_n let_v he_o be_v depose_v from_o priestly_a function_n and_o behold_v only_o as_o a_o lector_fw-la or_o a_o reader_n etc._n etc._n heretic_n by_o which_o ordination_n of_o the_o council_n we_o may_v see_v the_o severity_n of_o that_o time_n not_o only_o in_o keep_v priest_n from_o marriage_n after_o they_o be_v priest_n but_o even_o in_o forbid_v the_o use_n of_o their_o wife_n that_o be_v marry_v before_o if_o any_o such_o be_v admit_v and_o it_o be_v to_o be_v note_v that_o the_o council_n say_v here_o that_o this_o custom_n of_o priest_n live_v with_o wife_n come_v from_o the_o herotick_v of_o those_o day_n and_o be_v practise_v by_o they_o principal_o that_o be_v turn_v from_o heresy_n to_o catholic_a religion_n and_o final_o i_o can_v pretermit_v for_o the_o upshot_n of_o this_o matter_n to_o note_v one_o sentence_n of_o isidorus_n archbishop_n of_o siâ—â—ll_n that_o be_v precedent_n and_o first_o subscribe_v to_o the_o foresay_a council_n of_o toledo_n who_o in_o his_o second_o book_n de_fw-fr ecclesiasticâ—â—_n officy_n talk_v of_o this_o very_a same_o council_n as_o it_o may_v seem_v say_v placuit_fw-la sanctis_fw-la patribus_fw-la ut_fw-la qui_fw-la sâ—cra_fw-la mysterâ—â—_n contâ—â—ctaâ—_n â—asti_fw-la sint_fw-la &_o continentes_fw-la ab_fw-la uxoribus_fw-la it_o seem_v good_a unto_o the_o holy_a father_n to_o determine_v that_o such_o as_o do_v handle_v the_o holy_a mystery_n shall_v be_v chaste_a &_o continent_n from_o wife_n and_o thus_o much_o for_o the_o first_o point_n aver_v by_o m._n barlow_n that_o four_o canon_n of_o the_o four_o council_n of_o toledo_n do_v
we_o do_v testyfie_v before_o godâ—_n and_o all_o the_o order_n of_o angel_n as_o alsoâ—_n before_o the_o choir_n of_o holy_a prophet_n and_o apostle_n and_o of_o all_o martyr_n and_o before_o the_o whole_a catholic_a church_n and_o congregation_n of_o christian_n that_o no_o man_n intend_v the_o destruction_n of_o the_o king_n that_o no_o man_n attempt_v any_o thing_n against_o the_o life_n of_o the_o prince_n that_o no_o man_n deprive_v he_o of_o the_o government_n of_o the_o kingdom_n that_o no_o man_n by_o tyramnicall_a presumption_n usurp_v unto_o himself_o the_o height_n of_o his_o kingdom_n that_o no_o man_n by_o any_o machination_n in_o his_o adversytie_n do_v associate_v unto_o he_o the_o assistance_n of_o conspirator_n tolet._n and_o if_o any_o man_n shall_v presume_v to_o attempt_v any_o of_o these_o thing_n let_v he_o be_v strike_v with_o our_o curse_n and_o be_v condemn_v to_o everlasting_a judgement_n without_o any_o hope_n of_o remedy_n here_o now_o m._n barlow_n triumph_v victory_n and_o say_v that_o this_o be_v a_o form_n of_o a_o oath_n prescribe_v and_o therefore_o i_o have_v lose_v my_o credit_n that_o deny_v the_o same_o in_o the_o 4._o council_n whereto_o first_o i_o answer_v that_o this_o be_v rather_o a_o protestation_n of_o the_o council_n a_o commination_n or_o threaten_v to_o other_o as_o appear_v by_o the_o punishment_n appoint_v they_o any_o form_n of_o a_o oath_n either_o take_v by_o themselves_o or_o prescrybed_n to_o other_o and_o second_o i_o say_v that_o this_o be_v so_o far_o different_a from_o the_o form_n of_o our_o new_a oath_n of_o allegiance_n now_o exact_v as_o nothing_o can_v be_v more_o which_o every_o man_n will_v see_v by_o compare_v they_o together_o for_o i_o hope_v m._n barlow_n will_v not_o allow_v the_o invocation_n of_o angel_n prophet_n apostles_n &_o martyr_n call_v for_o witness_n as_o here_o be_v use_v and_o so_o the_o form_n be_v nothing_o like_o nor_o be_v this_o a_o oath_n make_v to_o the_o king_n 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