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A67844 A second friendly epistle to Mr. George Keith and the reformed Quakers who are now convinced that water baptism is an ordinance of Christ ... / by the reformed Quakers old friend Trepidantium Malleus. Trepidantium Malleus. 1700 (1700) Wing Y86; ESTC R34119 19,542 36

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