Selected quad for the lemma: father_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
father_n	ghost_n	holy_a	scripture_n	18,784	5	6.1696	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A41592	An answer to A discourse against transubstantiation	Gother, John, d. 1704.	1687 (1687)	Wing G1326; ESTC R30310	67,227	82

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