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A17576	The pastor and the prelate, or reformation and conformitie shortly compared by the word of God, by antiquity and the proceedings of the ancient Kirk, by the nature and use of things indifferent, by the proceedings of our ovvne Kirk, by the vveill of the Kirk and of the peoples soules, and by the good of the commonvvealth and of our outvvard estate with the answer of the common & chiefest objections against everie part: shewing vvhether of the tvvo is to be follovved by the true Christian and countrieman.	Calderwood, David, 1575-1650.	1628 (1628)	STC 4359; ESTC S107402	71,807	74

direct and correct other Pastors THE SECOND PART The Pastor Prelate compared by Antiquitie and the proceedings of the Ancient Kirk WE reverence the hoarie head and name of Antiquite but withall we know that there is antiquitie of trueth antiquitie of error and therefore vvould make difference betvvixt originall antiquitie or that vvhich was from the beginning and of the first institution and antiquitie of custome or that vvhich is of long continuance They that take themselues wilfully to custome against the first institution resolue not unlike the Councell of Constance when they set downe their blasphemous act Non obstante We doe not misregarde the practise of the Primitiue Kirk after the Apostles especially it being compared with the ages following But would haue it in comparison of the Apostolicall Kirk to be esteemed but dirivatiue as which admitted many changes from better to vvorse both in doctrine and discipline We honour the Fathers but so that vve giue the first honour to the Father of fathers besides vvhom vve haue no father To his sonne Iesus Christ the onely Prophet vvhom vve should heare To the Holy Ghost vvho onely teacheth us the trueth and to the Holy Scripture vvhich onely carryeth their divine authoritie Wishing all that are studious of the trueth in the pointe of the controversie in hand to take notice of these tvvo things First that the maintainers of conformitie many vvayes forget themselues in the matter of the authoritie of the Fathers For albeit they daube us vvith the Fathers the Fathers the ancients and all antiquitie yet they themselues vvill not hear the voice of the Fathers in their disputes vvhether against Papists vvhom they ansvver vvith the same exceptions against the Fathers vvhich vve bring in this cause against them or in their disputes vvith us vvhen the Fathers make against them and thus vvhile they professe that they honour the Fathers they doe but mock them sometimes putting upon them the purple robe of authoritie at their pleasure pulling it off againe Next they forget thēselues in this that albeit they knovv that the vvitnesse and not the testimonie is to be believed they alledge notvvithstanding some counterfeit some corrupted authors and some late schoolmen for the ancient Fathers against us B●canus Calvin Beza Martyr Iuell c. bring them against the Papists vvho denye not their authoritie And thirdly they misregard the order of divine dispensation in rhe course of time not vvithout ingratitude to God for his gifts and to good men for their labours by preferring the meanest that carrieth the name of Antiquitie unto the vvorthiest instruments of that blessed vvorke of Reformation vvho had aboue all that vvent before them many greate helpes of the languages of humane literature and of printing and to vvhom many secrets vvere made knovvne by the accomplishment of prophesies especially concerning the Antichrist vvho being conceived in the Apostles times vvas brought forth and brought up unvvittingly by the Fathers vvho looked for the Antichrist from another quarter vvhich maketh them to be incompetent judges in the matter of Hierarchie Ceremonies thereof The Romanists themselues vvho professe to be the greatest favourers of the ancient Fathers are forced to blush at many of their grosse and shamefull absurdities to confesse that many things that vvere of old either doubtfull or altogether unknovvne are novv to the meanest become cleare and certaine Some of them haue exploded it as an impertinent similitude that vve being cōpared to the ancients are as dvvarffes upon the shoulders of Giants The other thing that vve vvould haue the studious reader to take notice of is this That of the Prelates maintainers of conformitie seeking the fountaine of antiquitie and uncertaine vvhere to finde it some goe back to the old testament to bring the Prelates pedegree from thence some vvould bring his discent from Christ some from the Apostles and a fourth sort from the primitiue Kirk But before they get a sight of their ovvne Prelate in his pompe in his povver and in his bu●ke of Ceremonies they must goe farder dovvne the streame till they come in sight of the Antichrist and there they shall see him not far of vvayting on as may be apparent by this vvhich follovveth THE PASTOR acknowledgeth the difference of the Kirk and ministerie of the old new Testament seeketh neyther type nor patterne of his office from the Leviticall priesthood but bringeth his oldest warrant from Christ and his Apostles and exponeth the Ancients as Jerome and others who insist in the similitude of the ministerie of the old and new Testament as speaking by the way of allusion and not from any warrant of divine translation The PRELATE searching the fountaines of Nilus would bring his descent as high as from Levi as if the chief priests who had no episcopall authoritie over their brethren were turned now into prelates the inferiour Priests into pastors and the Levites who had no proper care of the poore were changed into our Deacons He bringeth the ancients to reckon this Genealogie but with such successe as the sonnes of Habijah had when they failed in reckoning their line from Aaron and so proved unworthy of the priesthood Nehem. 7. 2. The PASTOR hath an ordinarie and perpetuall office appointed by Christ but the office of the Apostle and Evangelist was extraordinarie to continue but for a time So that howsoever antiquitie useth the words of Apostle Bishop amply calling the Apostles Bishops and Bishops or pastors Apostles and successors to the Apostles yet neither is the one kinde of office compatible with the other nor can the one properly be sayd to succeede the other So different are they as well in respect of charge as of gifts and discharge of duetie For the Superior doeth not onely doe that which the inferior may not doe but his manner of doing of that which is common to both is far higher and more eminent The PRELATE repelled by the officebearers of the Old Testament seeketh to enter with his directiue power and jurisdiction among the ministers of the Gospell but with like successe For a pastor and doctor his power over pastors and doctors suffereth them not to be He urgeth to be taken in with the Apostle or Evangelist and to be esteemed successor to them but his office and theirs are not compatible For formally their office was extraordinarie and without succession and materially his office is not conteyned in their offices as is the office of a pastor there being no example in Scripture without the office of Apostle or Evangelist of such power as the prelate claymeth Whether his life and forme of ministration be apostolicall all that know him may discerne 3. The PASTOR and not the prelate is the first minister by the prelates owne confession whom the Apostles appointed in Kirks when they first planted them The pastor and not the prelate is the

3. 16. Baptisme r Math. 28. 19. all other places shewing baptisme to be a note discerning Christians from infidels 1 Pet. 3. 21 such places proving Baptisme to be a signe of Christian profession Matth. 3. The baptisme at Iordan solemne and what was done privately by the Apostles at sometimes was in the infancie of the Kirk which cannot now be a rule to us in a Kirk constituted Celebration of the Lords supper s Matth. 26. 26. Mark 14. 22. Luk 22. 19. 1 Cor. 11. 23. out of which compared together the whole institution is to be learned and not frō the last place alone since it cantaineth not all things belonging to the institutiō Mat 14. 13. Luke 24. 30. 1 Cor. 10. Observation of the sabbath t Gen. 2. 2. 3. Exo. 20. Deu. 5. Num. 15. 32. Nehem. 13 15. Isa. 56. 2. and 58. 13. Ioel 1. 14. Psal. 110 3. Ioh. 20. 16. 26. Act. 2 1. 20. 7. 1 Cor. 16. 1. Gal. 4. 9. 10 Colos. 2. 16. 17. Revel 1. 10. Residence v Caranza proveth the necessite of the residence of Bishops by fiue places of the old Testam by three out of the Evangelist and fiue out of the apostolick uritings and how can he be a bishop a shepheard a watch man c. that is a non-resident Life conversatiō●2 Cor. 1. 12. 1 〈◊〉 3. ● to 8. 4. 12 2 Tim. 1. 13. Tit. 1. 6. and 2. 7. The presence and blessing of God y 1 Tim. 1. 19. Ier. 12. 10. 23. 1 5. Ezec. 34. 2. 23. Zac. 11. 15. 16. 17 2 Pet. 2. 15. 16. Iude 11. Revel 2. 14. Object Bishops are warranted by the word Ans. Shewing that the Prelate hath no warrāt in the word and the manifold difference betwixt the divine diccesane bishop y 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 dixit Arist. in metaphys Antiquit●e the primitiue Kirk the Fathers of two sorts a Licet Christus po●● caenam instituerit suis discip ministraverit sub utraque specie panis vini hoc venerbile Sacramentum tamē hoc non obstante sacrorū Canonū autoritas approbata cōsuetudo ecclesiā servavit servat c. Caranza summa conc Const. sess 13. distinguitur a Iuristis ipsa primativa ecclesia in primam secundam The mainteyners of Conformitie forgette themselues about antiquitie three wayes b Whitgiftus Socratem Novatianum Puritanum vocat Saravia contra Bez. dicit Hieronimum apertè Arianū esse Dounamus contra omnes patres negat Petrum R●mae Episcopum fuisse c. c Quales sunt auter libri qui canones Apostolorū inscribitur Clemens Romanus Ignatius Dyonisius Areopagita Egesippus Dorotheus c. De quibus Mortonus cōtra pontisicios Larvatiisti autores pueris terriculamēto esse possunt viris autem cordatis esse ludibrio del●ent d Vitium malignitatis humanae ut vetera semper in laude praesentia sint in fastidio Tacit. Miraturque nihil nisi quod Libitina sacravit Horat. Nec nossumus Nani nec illi g●gantes sed omnes ejusdem statura quidem nos altius evecti eorum beneficio maneat modo in nobis quod in illis studium attentio animi vigilantia amor veri qua si absint jam non nanisumus nec in gigantum hnmeros sedemus sed homines instar magnitudinis humi prostrats Ludov. vives de causis corrup art lib. 1. The pastor is not older then the N. Testamēt the prelate would fetch his prelacie from the Old Testam e Mutato sacerdotio mutatur lex heb 7. 12. Ex sigura communi fine exemplo nihil cōcludi necessario potest lun de pontif The pastor and not ●he prelate warran●●d by Christ. f Apost Euang. ●●mumofficia de●●de duo extraordinaria significant Officiū Apostoli Euang. continet in se officium presbyteri eminenter sed non formaliter officiū autē episcopi hierarchici nec eminenter quia non datur episcopatus extra apostolatū quem contineat eminenter sicut datur presbyteratus g In gradum 〈◊〉 succes●it Apostolis Euang. in caput succedunt pastores ordinarii The Past. and not the Prel warranted by the Apostles h Intervallum ill●● ab ult c. Act. Apost ad medium Trajans imperium plane cu●● Varrone 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 voca●● potest Ioseph Scalig. prolegom in Chronic●● Eusebii i Vt hiatum euplere● Euseb. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Clementis nescio cujus non est enim ille eruditus Alexandrinus 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 Hegesippi non melioris scriptoris sint delectu ea deprompsit idem The Pastor keepeth his place and authoritie in the primitiue Kirk when the prelate beginneth to worke to be constant moderator or perpetuall president k Who dare condemne all those worthy ministeri of God that were neve● ordeyned by presbyters in sundrie Kirks of the world at such times as bishops 〈◊〉 those parts where they lived opposed thēselues against the trueth 〈◊〉 God Field book 3. cap. 39. l Paulatim quamvi● patribus nihil minus cogitantibus gradui episcopali aditus humanitus apertus per qu●●mox ingressa 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 istum ini●● quidem in Oligarchiā ac tandem 〈◊〉 horrendam illā●ntichristianā tyrannidem oecumenicā evexit haud satis scio an unquā abolendā nisi semel sublatis quibus eo ascendit gradibus in ordinem divinae institutionis redigatur Bez. de grad cap. 23. The pastor seeketh no honour but by his doctrine life the prelate forsaketh this way and taketh him to the world The pastor witnes for the trueth in the time o● defection which is wrought by the prelate perverting all after he is once entred The past complained of that which he could not mend the prel persecuted them that complained m Ecce in pace amaritudo mea ama rissima amaraprius in nece martyrū amarior post 〈◊〉 conflictu hereti●●rum amariss●●● nunc in mori●●● domesticorum 〈◊〉 Bern. super Cant. n Devotio peperit divitias filia de voravit matrem idem o Olim fuerunt lignei calices aurei sacerdotes nunc contra sunt aure● calices lignei sa cerdotes vulgo jactitatū p Olim habuisse christianos obscura templa sed lucida cordainūc cōtra habere lucida templa sed obscura corda sequentia The Past. desyred urged a reformation which by 〈◊〉 meanes the pre●●●e refused q D. Reynold his ●●●ter to S. Francis Knolles concerning D. Bancrofts sermō 1588. maketh this cleare Obj. The Christiā Kirk for 300 yeres had such bishops as we haue now Ans. Shewing in many particulars the difference betwixt the primitiue Bishops and our prelates who are liker unto the Roman Bisops in the most corrupt times r Aetas parentum pejor avis tulit nos nequiores mox d●turus progeniē vitiosiorem Horat. s Ex his Ambrosij Hieronimi constat primū in ipsix ecclesiae primordiis nullos tales episcopos fuisse quales