body which is giuen for you This is the chalice the newe testament in my blood which shall be shed for you and yet agayne Our lord Iesus in the night that he was betrayed tooke breade And giuinge thankes brake sayd Take yee eate This is my body which shall be deliuered for you this doe yee for commemoration of me In like manner also the chalice after he had supped sayinge this chalice is the newe testament in my blood this doe yee as often as ye shall drinke for the commemoration of me Note that these wordes this is my body beinge vnderstoode as they sounde there can be no more controuersie about this poynt And that they are to be vnderstoode as they sounde and without all figure may be conuinced in this sorte There can nether reason nor aucthoritie be alledged why anie other wordes of holy scripture are to be vnderstoode as they sounde and namely these wordes which are most like them This is my welbeloued sonne which doth not proue the same of these wherof we now speake Therfore without all sense reason merely of hereticall wilfulness is a figure sought in these Wordes more then in any other and namely in these I haue mentioned But here I inteÌ„d not any further dispute OF TRANSVBST ANtiation Catholique position THe worde TransubstaÌ„tiation is not founde expressly in holy scripture as likewise is not coÌ„substantiall but as the Catholique churche did euer beleeue the equalitie of power vnitie of substance in the Father and the sonne and by the assistance of the holy ghost the spirit of truthe which teacheth her all truthe did express her beleefe in that point by the worde consubstantiall in the holy councell of Nice so like wise haueinge euer beleeued the true reall presence of Christes body in the most holy eucharist by the change of the bread into the same body did beinge assisted by the same neuer fay linge spirit of truthe in the holy councel of Lateran first and since in diuerse others express her beleif in that poynt by the worde transubstantiation as most fitly declaringe the veritie of that most holy mystery Nether can the protestantes produce anie thing against transubstantiation which they themselues are not bounde to solue and answere the Arriannes obiectinge the very like against that of consubstantiall That the doctrin of traÌ„substaÌ„tion is not newe Adamus Francisci a learned protestant with others confesseth in these words The fiction of transubstantiation crep into the churche betimes And this shall suffice for this pointe till occasion be giuen of a larger discours OF ADORING THE holy Eucharist Catholique Positions OVr Sauioure Christ beinge noe less truly present in the holy Eucharist theÌ„ he was in the stable in Bethelem or vpon the cross he is noe less to be adored of all faithful christians in the sacrament then he was there or then beinge in the forme of a gardiner he was of S. Marie Magdalein Proofe Adore yee him all his Angells which wordes S. Paule hebrwes cap. 1. vnderstaÌ„deth of the adoâ—ation of Christ in his humanitié Adore yee the footstoole of his feete By which footstoole S. Augustine vnderstandeth the fleshe or bodie of our sauiour Christ and saith Because he walked here in fleshe and gaue the same fleshe to vs to be eaten for our Saluation and no man eateth that fleshe vnless he first adore it it is fouÌ„de howe the footstoole of our lord is adored Certes he that acknowledgeth our sauiour Christ truly present in the B. Sacrament and yet thinketh him not worthie of Adoration is more sensless and vnthankfull then that vngratfull kaytiff that seeinge his grations soueraigne coÌ„ming to visit him in his vile cottage should thinke him less honorable for suche exceeding grace and fauoure Protestantes positions In the holy Eucharist the true body and blood of our sauiouâ— Christ is not truly really anâ— substantially but in figure only 2 The body of Christ is not iâ— the Eucharist by transubstantiatione 3 He ys not to be adored in the Eucharist OF COMMVNION vnder one kinde Catholique positions 1. IT is no where forbidden iâ— holy scripture to minister the holy communion to lay personnes vnder one Kinde onely This Positione is clear no such prohibitione appearing in the scripture And yf the ProtestaÌ„tes growndes of beleeuinge nothinge but what is proued by scripture were true would sufficiently warrant the practise of the Roman churche in this poynt But â—urther It is no where commaunded â— holy scripture to giue the holy â—ommunion vnder both kindes â—o the laye people This Posision ys also cleare no such commaundement anie where appearinge For that which is sayd doe â—his for remembrance of me is spokeÌ„ onely of the kinde of bread and therfore doth well prouue the contraire S. Paule in deed â—ddeth it to both kindes therby also declaringe this holy mysterie taken ether under both or one kinde to be a memoriall of Christ and his passione and therfore doth rather proue the Catholique Roman practice then anie waye disproue yt Thoughe these wordes doe rather giue power and auctoritie to the Apostles priestes to consecrate and offer the vnbloody sacrifice here instituted and offered by our sauiouâ— Christ then import anie commaundement of ministringe thâ— same to the laye people vndeâ— both kindes And this shal appeare more euidently by thaâ— which followeth Catholique position The Catholique Roman churche doth not anie wronge or iniurie to the lay people ministringe vnto them the holy Eucharist vnder one kinde onely They receauinge the same benefit by one that they should do by bothe christs bodie blood beinge whole in eache Proofe He that saythe vnless you eate the fleshe of the sonn of man and drinke his bloode you shall not haue life in you saithe also He that eatethe me the same also shall liue by me And agayne he that eateth of this bread shall liue foreuer And he that sayth he that eateeth my flesh and drinketh my blood abideth in me and I in him The same also sayth the bread that I wil giue is my fleshe forthe life of the wolrde And he that sayth he that eateth my fleshe and drinketh my blood hath life euerlastinge The same sayth he that eateth this bread shall liue for euer All these are the sayinges of our sauiour Christ in on the same hapter of S. Ihon where if we say with most Catholique Docteurs that he speaketh of the holy Sacrament Sacramentally receaued it is manifest that he ascribeth the same effect and vertu to one kinde that he doth to both And therfore can they haue noe wroÌ„ge done them that for most iust causes haue it ministered vnder one kinde onely But yf we saye with the Protestantes that here is no speache of sacrameÌ„tall eatinge of Christ his body theÌ„ is there noe difficultie in theyr cheest argument which is grounde vpon the first wordes alleadge in this proof 2. The were perseueringe
tell the churche therfore must it of necessitie be apparent and visible 5. The Churche consistethe of Pastores and sheepe Superiors or rulers and subiectes And he gaue some Apostles and some Prophetes and other some Euangelistes other some pastores and Doctores Are all Appostles are all Prophetes are all Doctores But superiores and subiectes must be Knowne to one another as also Pastores and they re sheepe Therfore must the Churche of necessitie be visible and apparent Protestantes posit The true Church of god is not necessarily visible nor apparent ether to the faithfull beleeuers that are in it or to heretiques and those that are out of it This position must the Protestantes also proue and defend though directly against the holy Scriptures vnless they will confess their church not to be the true Church as if the Scriptures be true it cannot be seeinge that before Luther it ether was not at all or was inuisible and therfore no true church of Christ Catholique Positi The true church of Christ can neuer want à lawfull personall succession of Pastors from her first institution till the end of the world Proofe 1. And he gaue some Apostles and some Prophets and othersome Euangelistes and othersome pastores and Doctores To the consummation of the saintes vnto the worke of the ministerie vnto the edifyinge of the bodye of Christ Vntill we meete all in the vnitie of faythe Loe here Pastores giuen for the Churche till all meete in vnite of faythe which is till the ende of the worde 2. Goinge teache all nationes baptiseinge them in the name of the Father c. and behoulde I am with you all dayes euen to the consummation of the worlde Loe here Christ promiseth to be with the pastores of the Churche whom he sendethe all dayes till the ende therfore there shall alwayes be pastores 3 For thy Fathers there are borne sonnes to thee thou shalt make them princes ouer all the earthe Vnderstoode by S. Augustine of the successione of pastores in the churche Sayinge The Apostles begott thee ô Christian Churche they were sent they preached they are thy fathers But could they bee alwayes corporally with vs could any of them tarye here till this tyme could they tarie till the time yet to come But was therfore the Churche left desolate by theyr departure God forbidd For thy fathers sonnsare borne to thee what is this for thy fathers sonnes are borne to thee The Aposstles were seÌ„t fathers inplace of the Aposstles sonnes are borne to the Bishoppes are appointed For whence were the Bishoppes borne that are att this daye in the worlde the church her selfe callethe them fathers shee begate them and appoynted them in the seates of the fathers Doe not therfore think thyself desolate O ChristiaÌ„ church because thou seest not Peter seest not Paule for thou seest not them by whome thou wast borne but of thyn issue fatherhoode is spronge to thee For thy fathers sonnes are borne to thee thou shalt make them princes ouer all the earthe This is the Catholique church Her children are made princes ouer all the earthe her sonnes are constituted for fathers lett them acknowledge this that are cut of let them come to the vnitie be they brought into the temple of the kinge Thus S. Augustin prote pos The true church of Christe may be without a lawfull personnall succession of Pastores This position they must alsoe proué or ells theyr church cannot be anie true churche For they cannot shew any Pastores of theyr religion before Luther to whom he succeeded Catho pos This lawfull succession of Pastores in gods churche is not withovt consecration and authenticall mission or sendinge by an ordinarye power residing in the churche Proofe 1. when they S. S. Paule and Barnabas had ordayned to them Priestes in eueri churche and had prayed with fastinge they commended them to our lord in whom they beleeued 2. Nether doth any man take the honoure of priesthoode to himself but he that is called of god as Aaron Note that if Luther CaluiÌ„ and Beza with the rest who say they are called of god as Aaron can shewe the like proofes of they re calling that Aaron did and besides the externall consecratioÌ„ which he also had notwithstanding his internall callinge of god they shal be beleeued to haue godes caling Tough Aaron being the first of his order and therfore could not haue his callinge by succession his case is farr vnlike to our newe maysters vnless they will coÌ„fess a truthe and saye that they are also the first of their order wherin they shal be beleeued and therby conuinced not to be preachers of Christ but of themselues because they haue no mission from him but come of them selues beinge sent by none 3. Howe shall they beliue him whom they haue not hard And howe shall they heare without a preacher But howe shall they preach vnless they be sent Amen Amen I saye vnto you he that entereth not by the dore that is by the ordinarie waye into the fould of the sheepe but climethe vp another way he is a theefe and a robber But hee that enterethe by the Dore is the Pastore of the sheepe The Prophets prophesie lyes in my name I haue not sent them I haue not sent these Prophets yet they rann with many such like wherby it appeareth that we are not to beleeue euerie one that preteÌ„deth to come from god vnless they shew their mission and coÌ„missioÌ„ To which purpose heare this notable saying of the auncient Ireneus It behoâ—uethe to obaie those priestes that are in the churche those who haue the succession from the Apostles as we haue shewed who together with Episcopalitie haue receiued accordinge to the will of the father the assured certayne gift of truthe But to suspect the rest that stande of from the originall succession in what place soeuer the are assembled ether as heretiqueâ— and of bad doctrine as makeinge schisme and as highe mynded and pleasinge themselues and of S. Cypriane If the church was with Cornelius whâ— succeeded the Bishope Fabiane and whome beside the honoure of Preisthoâ—â— our lord glorified with martyrdomeâ— Nouatian is not in the church nor caâ— he be esteemed à Bishope who dispising euangelicall and apostolicall tradition succeeding to none is sprongâ— out from himselfe For nether can 〈◊〉 haue or houlde by any meanes the churche who is not ordered in the churche Protestantes Pos. The lawfull succession of Pastores in gods churche may be with out consecration and authenticall mission or sending by any ordinarie power residing in the churche THE SIXTHE CONtrouersie of the supremicie of S. Peter and of the Pope or Bishope of Rome Catho Positions 1 SAint Peter was by our sauiour Christ constituted supreme head and souraigne Bishope or Pastoure ouer his whole churche militant Proofe 1. Our sauiour sayd to S. Peter Symon of Ihon louest thou me Feede my sheepe
a speeche directed to S. Peter and to no other of the Apostles containing charge to feede as a shepherde doth his sheepe all christes flok whithout exceptioÌ„ so vnderstood by S. CipriaÌ„ sayinge To Peter our lord after his resurrection sayde feede my sheepe and builded his churche vpon him alone and to him he gaue charge of feeding his sehepe By S. Chrisostome he gaue him S. Peter the primacie gouernment of the churche thrughe the whol world which is aboue all he sheweth him to haue loued our lord more theÌ„ All the Apostles sayinge Peter louest thou me more theÌ„ these Our sauiour sayth to S Peter Thou art Peter vpon this rock wilâ— I builde my churche Note that accordinge to the Greke Siriake text these wordes sound thus thou art a rocke and vpon this rocke I wil builde my churche which is also the true seÌ„se of the vulgare latiÌ„ Here did our sauiour christmanifestly promise to S. Peter souerayntie ouer his churche For the foundation is to à buildinge the same that the heade or prince is in a kingdome or common wealth Thus doth S. Epiphanius vnderstand these wordes sayinge Our lord him selfe hath constituted him S. Peter the first of his Apostles the firme rocke vpon which the churche of god is built To these wordes also manifestly alludeth the holy generall councell of Calcedon in the sentence of coÌ„demnatione against Dioscorus sayinge Leo the most holy blessed Archebishope of great and auÌ„cient Rome by vs and by this preseÌ„t holi synode together with the thrise most blessed and all prayse worthye S. Peter whoe ys the Rock and very topp of the Catholique Churche he which is the foundatione of true faithe hathe spoyled him Dioscorus of all episcopall dignitie Our sauiour sayth to S. Peter I will giue to thee the keyes of the kingdome of heauen wher is also most clerely signified S. Peter his preheminence in godes churche For none hath the gouernement or commaundemeÌ„t of the Keyes of any towne or citie but the prince or gouernour of the same that soueraygne power is signified by the Keyes it is proued by that of our sauiour Christe I haue the keyes of death and hell That is the rule and prower ouer deathe and hell And agayn Hee that hath the Keye of Dauide he that shuteth and noe man openeth S. Peter practised the authoritie of supreame pastoure in declaringe Iudas to haue fallen from his Apostleship and proposinge another to be chosen in his roome Peter risinge vp in the midest of the brethereÌ„ sayd as foloweth S. Chrisostome vnderstaÌ„dinge it so saythe How feruent is he how he acknowledgethe the flocke committed by christ how he is prince of this company and in euery place begineth the first to speak His supremicie was acknowledged by S. Paule goeinge to Hierusalem to see him Then after three yeares I came to Hierusalem to see Peter S. Chrisostome vnderstandeth it so sayinge Peter was the mouthe of the Apostles prince and topp of that companye therfore also Paule goethe vp to see him beside the others Catho pos â— The Pope or Bishope of Rome is the law full and lineall successoure of S. Peter in that charge and office which our sauioure gaue vnto S. Peter ouer his churche militant Proofe The power which our sauioure gaue to S. Peter ouer his churche militante was giuen him as likewise the power giuen to other Apostles to the consuÌ„mation of the saintes to the edifâ—nge of the bodye of Christ vntill we all meete in the vnitie of saith knowledge of the sonn of god as S. Paule testifiethe and therfore to continue in the churche soe longe as the churche is to continue which is also prooued by that Vpon this Rocke will I build my churche and by that feed my sheepe for so longe as the buildinge of the churche coÌ„tinueth or the flock of christe is to be fed which will be to the end of the world so long must the rock wherupon the churche is built and the pastours who must feede the shepe continue But this cannot be in S. Peters personn therfore in his successoures see S. Augustin his wordes before in that positione that the true churche can neuer want a lawfull personnall successione of pastores vpon these wordes of the psalme 44. For thy fathers are borne sonnes to thee And S Chriso who saith why did oure lord shed his blood surely to redeeme those sheepe the cure wherof he commited to Peter aÌ„d also to his successoures Now that the Bishope of Rome is the lawfull and lineall successoure of S. Peter is as authentically and euidently proued as that Lewis the 13. of France is lineall successoure to Hughe Capet or his maiestié of Ingland to wiliam the coÌ„querour S. Ireneus Optatus S. Epiphanius and S. Augustin doe deriue the successione of the bishopes of Rome from S. Peter vntill the bishopes that liued â— theyr tymes Besides Eusebius or S. Hierosme Prosper and all such as haue written the cronicles of ecclesiasticall affayres doe not omitt to continue the Bishopes of Rome vntill theyr owne dayes And soe wel is this successione knowne that M. Fulke sayethe wee can coumpt it on our fingares And S. Augustine doubteth not to saye that the succession of preistes from the seat of Peter to whom our lorde after his resurrection commended his sheepe to be fed vntil that present Bishopp held him within the lapp of the churche Protes pos 1. S. Peter was not by our sauiour our Christ constituted supreme head and soureygne pastoure or Bishop ouer his churche militant 2. The Pope or Bishope of Rome is not lawfull and lineall successoure to S. Peter in that charge and office which our sauiour gaue to S. Peter ouer his churche militante THE SEAVENTH Controuersie of the honoure due vnto the holy Angells and Saintes in heauen Catho pos 1. TO the holy Angelles and saintes in heauen is due more then ciuil honoure and reuerence Proofe 1. To mee thy frendes ô god are exceedingly honorable loe here Dauid beinge â—inge auowethe that the frendes of god are greatly to be honoured by him Certes not with ciuill honoures for suche he ought not to them he beinge kinge and the frendes of god beinge all those that doe the thinges he coÌ„mauÌ„deth as our sauiour testifiethe of what condition or degree soeuer 2. where this Gospell shal be preached in the whole worlde that also which shee hath done shal be toulde for a memorie of her Loe here an exeeding honoure decreed by our sauiour him self to S. Marie Magdaleyne where is to be noted that this is coÌ„mauÌ„ded to be done in memorie of her in like manner of speeche as our sauiour commaunded the holy misteries to be celebrated in memorie of him 3. Iosue beinge in the feild of the citie of hiericho saw a man staÌ„dinge against him how