Selected quad for the lemma: father_n

Word A	Word B	Word C	Word D	Occurrence	Frequency Band	MI	MI Band	Prominent
father_n	believe_v	faith_n	holy_a	10,213	4	5.4982	4	false

Text snippets containing the quad

ID	Title	Author	Corrected Date of Publication (TCP Date of Publication)	STC	Words	Pages
A77707	Rome's conviction: or, A discoverie of the unsoundness of the main grounds of Rome's religion, in answer to a book, called The right religion, evinced by L.B. Shewing, 1. That the Romish Church is not the true and onely Catholick Church, infallible ground and rule of faith. 2. That the main doctrines of the Romish Church are damnable errors, & therefore to be deserted by such as would be saved. By William Brownsword, M.A. and minister of the Gospel at Douglas Chappell in Lancashire.	Brownsword, William, b. 1625 or 6.	1654 (1654)	Wing B5216; Thomason E1474_2; ESTC R209513	181,322	400

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because_o we_o see_v that_o be_v through_o the_o spirit_n of_o inspiration_n by_o faith_n we_o know_v and_o by_o the_o testify_a spirit_n do_v we_o witness_v etc._n etc._n chap._n ix_o of_o the_o spiritist_n rule_v of_o faith_n you_o begin_v with_o a_o distinction_n about_o the_o rule_n of_o faith_n which_o you_o say_v may_v be_v consider_v in_o itself_o or_o in_o r_o spect_v of_o we_o in_o itself_o its_o god_n reveal_v d_o truth_n in_o respect_n of_o we_o it_o be_v the_o same_o truth_n express_v to_o we_o thus_o far_o say_v you_o catholic_n and_o s●iritists_n agree_v their_o difference_n i●_n about_o the_o expression_n answ_n 1._o i_o conceive_v your_o distinction_n be_v vain_a and_o can_v hardly_o believe_v that_o spiritist_n agree_v with_o you_o thus_o far_o for_o 1._o i_o conceive_v the_o