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A39364	Polemica Christiana, or, An earnest contending for the faith which was once deliver'd unto the saints in I. a letter to the author of the Dialogue, &c., II. a vindication of the doctrine of Mr. Richard Hooker, against the mis-representation of an anti-trinitarion, in a pamphlet entitled, Considerations on the explications of the doctrine of the trinity, III. reflections upon some passages in a book entitled, The history of religion, IV. a vindication of Vincentius Lirinensis, from the unjust reproach cast on him, by an anonymous writer, in a book entitled, Animadversions on Mr. Hill's book / by Edmund Elys ...	Elys, Edmund, ca. 1634-ca. 1707.	1696 (1696)	Wing E685; ESTC R41121	13,781	30

the Arians as for the Christians calling the former One Part of the Christian Church P. 86 It was still says he One Part of the Christian Church that vex'd the other P. 115 He hath these words From the Two great Springs Athanasius and Arius the Church over-flow'd with Divisions c. Answ Nothing can be more False and more impudently Slanderous than to say that Athanasius was the Spring or Cause of those Divisions for he stedfastly adher'd to the FAITH which was once deliver'd unto the Saints This Gentleman tells us p. 63. That a Man must be his own Expositor Minister Bishop and Council Answ This is Contrary to the common Sense of all sincere Christians who Abhor all Self-conceit or what arises from their own Minds as dis-united from the Minds of other Christians They Know and are Assur'd that no man Knows any thing as he ought to Know but as he is In the Communion of Saints Their principal way of Attaining to more Knowledge of what they ought to Do is the Doing of what they Know already And they know they ought to shew all Meekness to all Men and that they ought to behave themselves Lowly and Reverently towards any Council Professing to suit their Determinations to the Holy Scriptures Any man that will but Peruse the First Chapter of the Learned Animadversions upon Dr. Sherlock's Book will clearly perceive the Folly and Madness of this Man 's Cavilling about Mystery Such as are Assertors of Mystery says he p. 59. choose rather to search into some Dark Places of St. John's Gospel or St. Paul's Epistles to fetch out from thence a Wonderful Divinity than to attend to the general the plain and easily intelligible Current of the Gospels and Epistles To fetch from thence a Wonderful Divinity what wou'd the man be at Would he have a Divinity that is not Wonderful or Incomprehensible We have seen what mad work has been made by his Fellow-Champions against Mystery of what he calls The general the plain and easily intelligible Current of the Gospels and Epistles upon Conceit that all those Places of Scripture where our Blessed Saviour is spoken of as Man are so many Proofs that he is not God Let us now consider this Historian's Attempt to make People to have but light Thoughts of the Doctrine of the Trinity upon Account of the Difference betwixt Dr. Sherlock and the Excellent Animadverter History of Religion pag. 116. We have even at this present an unlucky Instance of the strange Differences among Learned men Dr. Sherlock writes a Book in Answer to certain Brief Notes on the Creed of Athanasius He says his Undertaking is to vindicate the Athanasian Creed and the Doctrine of a Trinity in Unity which he says he has now made as clear and easy as the Notion of One God But another and a very Learned Person too in his Animadversions upon that Book of Dr. Sherlock calls the Explication of the Trinity advanc'd in Dr. Sherlock's Book a silly a contradictory and an Heretical Notion wholly of his own Invention and a Stab to the Heart of the Doctrine of the Church of England He charges another Book of Dr. Sherlock's being a Discourse of the Knowledge of Christ with vile and scandalous Reflections upon God's Justice and says moreover that it may deserve to pass for a Blasphemous Libel Pag. 117. What Measures or Opinions then can the Unlearned take from their disputing Leaders Guides that cannot forbear to impose Faith in dark and unnecessary Points and yet rate their Imaginations at the Value of Holy Scripture even while they dis-agree among themselves in the very Points which they would Enjoin others to Believe I shall say nothing here of Dr. Sherlock's Opinion of the Doctrine of the Trinity having said enough of it elsewhere But I must Aver to all the World that this Person of Quality deals most Ingentilely and Dis-ingenuously with the Learned Animadverter in Endeavouring to Perswade the Reader to Conceit that this Worthy Person wou'd Enjoin him to Believe any thing concerning the Holy Trinity but what every Man that Professeth himself to be a Member of the Church of England if he do not swerve from all the Principles of common Honesty does really Believe The Animadverter does not desire that any man should Assent to what he says against Dr. Sherlock in the Vindication of the Catholick Faith any farther than as he may be Convinc'd by the Force of his Arguments Here I think it my Duty to wipe off one of the foulest Aspersions that have been cast upon the Animadverter viz. That he is the First Man amongst all the Sons of the Church of England that ever shewed such a Dislike to Dr. Sherlock's Book Entitled A Discourse of the Knowledge of Jesus Christ as if he did it meerly out of Spight having no rational Inducement thereunto I am certain that about Eight Years since there was sent to Dr. Sherlock from a Divine of the Church of England whom the worst of his Enemies will acknowledge to be far enough from any Priest-Craft a large Letter containing a Refutation of several of the gross and most detestable Errors in that Book Some Part of that Letter I shall here recite Abraham's Faith was not a Faith in Christ say You But the holy Apostle says expresly that The Gospel was preached unto Abraham Now if Abraham Believ'd the Gospel preached unto him did he not Believe in Christ The words of our Saviour which you recite do most evidently Prove that Abraham's Faith was Faith in Christ Joh. 8. 56. Your Father Abraham rejoiced to see my Day c. St. Chrysostome was not of your Mind his words on this Text are these 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 The same Truth is Attested by St. Ambrose Hunc Vidit Abraham in isto Sacrificio Hujus Passionem Aspexit Et ideo ipse Dominus ait de eo Abraham Diem meum Vidit Gavisus est Let us now return to our Historian 'T is very observable says he p. 99. that For real Heresies of the Flesh there are no Inquisitions set up nor any particular Persecutions not for Drunkenness or Whoredom or other Vices They increase as much by Temptation and Example as those sort of Vices can and yet were never made Objects of the pretended pious Zeal or of any Persecution I cannot give a softer Term to this than that of a Notorious LYE For can any English Man that knows any thing of the Proceedings of our Ecclesiastical Courts be ignorant of this That at the Bishop's Visitation all Parsons Vicars and Curates at the Arch-Deacon's Visitation the Church-Wardens are Bound to Present Drunkards common Swearers Fornicators Adulterers c. The most Reverend Arch-Bishop LAUD never shew'd himself more Zealous in any thing than in the Prosecution of a Great LADY for Living in Adultery I shall here relate the whole Story as I find it in Cyprianus Anglicus p. 266. The Lady Purbeck Wife of Sir John Villers Viscount Purbeck the

And let him tell me if there can be greater Evidence for any Assertion concerning the meaning of any Word or Phrase than we have for this That by Fellows we are not to understand Angels but Men. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 In your Clear Confutation as you call it you have these words A Trinity supposes Three Persons in God And why but Three Surely all between One and Infinite's imperfect if divers Personality were a Perfection in God therefore Infinity should be the Number Answ The Divine Infinity is Absolute Infinity and 't is the grossest Nonsense to say That Number can be absolutely Infinite since it has a Beginning We believe that The Father is God The Son is God and the Holy Ghost is God and yet they are not Three Gods but One God because the Onely Wise God himself in the Holy Scriptures has Reveal'd it unto us Our Trinitarians would tell us say you that God is the most pure and simple Being and yet again they can say That he is Three Persons and has Three Wills and Three Understandings c. Answ Nothing can be more False than to say That we hold that God has Three Wills c. we grant that it implies a Contradiction to say There are not Three Natures Numerically Distinct where there are Three Wills and Three Vnderstandings as in Three Men we affirm That The Father The Son and The Holy Ghost as they have One Divine Nature have but One Will and One Understanding But God the Son as he has Two Natures the Divine and Humane has Two Wills c. but his Humane Will is most perfectly united to the Divine Will in all things It was so in all his Sufferings which were the Objects of his Aversion being consider'd as in themselves but of his Volition being consider'd as the Effects of the Divine Will This calls me to an Animadversion on those words which I tremble to recite I am confident no truly Learned sincere Christian that was to write in Confutation of the Religion of the Turks would pour out such Contumelious Speeches against Mahomet and his Followers as you do against the Blessed Jesus Our LORD and Our GOD and against Us his Followers Your Present Mystery-men and Metaphysical Mad-men Sometimes say you by a kind of Ventriloquy they make Christ as God to be able to tell us all things but by and by again as Man they attribute Ignorance to him So sometimes again they make him Omnipotent and yet by and by again Hocus pocus we must have an Angel to comfort him against his Sufferings Good God! shall we never be deliver'd from these Labyrinths Answ We do not attribute Ignorance to Christ as the word Ignorance signifies Imperfection viz. Any want of Knowledge but as it signifies simply Not knowing all Things Such Ignorance the most Perfect Finite Understanding must be subject unto And Christ's Understanding as Man is Finite Upon supposition that He subjected Himself to Sufferings where 's the Absurdity that he should be Comforted by an Angel in that Nature in which he suffered But say you What! Did only the Man dye Was only the Man Tempted Christ then was but inhabited by the God-head and when the Man was in his streights God left him to comfort himself but where is the Room for the Merit● and Sufferings of the God-head then Answ God the Son Assum'd or United to himself the Humane Nature that so he might be capable of Suffering to Demonstrate that the HOLY ONE hates Sin with an infinite Hatred and loves Men tho' SINNERS with an infinite Love In which Demonstration of the Divine Justice and Mercy towards Men is implied the greatest Efficacy that can be to bring Sinners to Repentance So that the Onely Cause that any Sinner does not Repent is the Perverseness of his own Will in that he Shuts his Eyes against this Demonstration and so Rejects the Offer of the Onely Effectual Remedy for all his Diseases I beseech Almighty God by the Death and Passion of the Holy Jesus who together with The Father and The Holy Ghost is Worshipped and Glorified to have Mercy upon you to give you true Repentance and his Holy Spirit that you may be Reconcil'd unto God before you shall Go from hence and be no more seen If You or any of your Companions have a mind to Dispute with me in Private if You will send me any Letters by the Post I promise you that by the Help of God I shall return an Answer to every Letter I shall receive from any of you And that I shall never Publish any of your Letters without your Consent but I will not Promise not to Publish mine own I am Your Servant and the Servant of all Men For CHRIST's Sake Edmund Elys Totness in Devon May 1st 1694. A VINDICATION OF THE DOCTRINE OF Mr. RICHARD HOOKER c. THis Anti-Trinitarian tells the World and that truly that Mr. Hooker saith That the Substance of God with this Property To be of None doth make the Person of the Father The very self-same Substance in Number with this Property To be of the Father maketh the Person of the Son The same Substance having added to it the Property of Proceeding from the other Two maketh the Person of the Holy Ghost So that in every Person there is imply'd both the Substance of God which is One and also that Property which causeth the same Person really and truly to differ from the other Two On these words of the Excellent Mr. Hooker this Disputer maketh this Animadversion Now to be of none to be of the Father and to proceed from both are but other words for this Sense To Beget to be Begotten and to Proceed But that Father of Modern O●thodoxy Peter Lombard denies that these before-mention'd are Properties in the Substance of God or that they can belong to it He saith Essentia n●● est Generans nec Generata nec Procedens i. e. The Substance of God neither Begets nor is Begotten nor Proceeds 'T is impossible to make this consist with Mr. Hooker who expresly ascribeth those Properties to the Divine Substance or Essence and saith that being in the Divine Substance they make it to be Three Persons To this I answer That Mr. Hooker does not Contradict Peter Lombard For 't is Evident his meaning is this That the Divine Substance or Essence as in the Father is of None as in the Son is of the Father as in the Holy Ghost is of the Father and of the Son The Property belongs to the Person and not to the Essence as Communicable to Three Persons In every Person says Mr. Hooker there is implied both the Substance of God which is One and also that Property which causeth the same Person really and truly to differ from the other Two It is a most palpable Falshood which this Man delivers in these words Here is the same Substance Unbegotten and Begotten Answ The Person of the Son is Begotten in that he

POLEMICA CHRISTIANA OR AN Earnest Contending For the FAITH Which was once deliver'd unto the SAINTS IN I. A Letter to the Author of the DIALOGUE c. II. A Vindication of the Doctrine of Mr. RICHARD HOOKER against the Mis-representation of an Anti-Trinitarian in a Pamphlet Entitled Considerations on the Explications of the Doctrine of the Trinity III. Reflections upon some Passages in a Book Entitled The History of Religion IV. A Vindication of VINCENTIVS LIRINENSIS from the unjust Reproach cast on him by an Anonymous Writer in a Book Entitled Animadversions on Mr. HILL's Book By EDMUND ELYS sometime Fellow of Baliol Colledge in OXFORD Magna est VERITAS Praevalebit Printed in the Year 1696. TO The AUTHOR of the Dialogue c. SIR I Entreat You by the Common Principles of Humanity that You would seriously Peruse what I have here written Considering that within a short Time both You and I shall be Call'd out of this World to give Account of all our Doings to the Maker of all Things and Judge of all Men. Since you Profess you believe all the Sayings of our Blessed Saviour I pray consider these sacred Words Mat. 5. 8. Blessed are the pure in Heart for they shall see GOD. I suppose You will not Deny but that Purity of Heart consists in the True Love of God and our Neighbour It seems to me that you are Guilty of great Irreverence towards the Divine Majesty in that You throw out such Words as these at every Turn Good God! But Good God then c. Bless me again and again You shew your self to be most Barbarously Vncharitable in Reviling Priests of all sorts In plain Terms say you the Priests of all sorts hope insensibly to raise themselves a Dominion over us The Priests of all Ages have rather strove as a Faction of Men to raise themselves Great than to seek through Self-denial and Humility for the truly Glorious and Incorruptible Crown Answ Those Holy Men in the Four First General Councils the Arians themselves speak well of the Priests in Former Ages were such Glorious Examples of True Vertue and Godliness that whosoever is throughly acquainted with Church-History and has read the Writings of the Ancient Fathers that Assented to the Doctrines Explicated and Defended in those Councils he cannot but Reflect upon the Reproach you cast upon the Priests of all Ages with the greatest Abhorrency and Detestation This Black Turbulency of Spirit is not like to compose a Clear Confutation of any Error nor can it consist with a clear Speculation of any Sanctifying Truth But I must confess It is very suitable to your impious Boasting in calling what you write in your Second Sheet A clear Confutation of the Trinity Before we Reflect upon your Argumentations here which can hardly be found in the Croud of such a Multitude of Invectives and Vain Boastings we shall consider some Passages in your Dialogue Quest Are there no Texts in the Gospel where Christ himself Preacht up the Father to be the One and only God exclusive of all others as well as of himself Pray repeat them if there be Answ Mark 12. 29 c. And Jesus answered him the First of all the Commandments is Hear O Israel the Lord thy God is one Lord c. These words do no more Exclude our Saviour from being the One God than from being the One Lord Neither does his being the One Lord Exclude the Father from being the One Lord. But say you in your Clear Confutation To say of Three Persons each severally God that they are One God is as much a Contradiction as to say Three Men are One. Answ This Saying of yours is as manifestly False as it is to say There is no difference between an Infinite and a Finite Nature or Essence I shall here recite some of the words of my brief Animadversion on The Naked Gospel Is there any thing more Reasonable than to conceive that in God the One Infinite Essence there may be a Certain Trinity which cannot in any wise appertain to any Three Persons of a Finite Nature Can there ever be a more Impious Absurdity than this to Deny the Truth of that which the Almighty and Incomprehensible GOD Father Son and Holy Ghost in whose Name we are BAPTIZED has Reveal'd unto us concerning Himself because we cannot find any thing like it even amongst the Best of his Creatures To say that we ought not to Believe any thing but what our Reason can Fathom or Comprehend is in effect to say We ought not to Believe there is a GOD it being Essential to the Deity to Be infinitely beyond the Comprehension of our Reason In your Dialogue you say that our Saviour is called Alpha and Omega Rev. 1. 8. in Opposition to I AM in God for pure and simple Being I Beseech You as you believe there is a God and that these words which you recite were written by Divine Inspiration consider what I say Alpha and Omega the FIRST and the LAST is that which is beyond al● Bounds Absolutely Infinite The One Pure and Simple Being 'T is manifest therefore that the WORD which from Everlasting was God which is Alpha and Omega the FIRST and the LAST has the same Eternal Essence with God the Father Quest But pray what Authority have you to call the Son a God-Angel as you do You us'd to say That there is a Text where the Son as God is said to have the Angels for his Fellows if there be such pray let us see it to satisfy us in what you do Answ Heb. 1. 4. Being made so much better than the Angels as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent Name than they 5 For unto which of the Angels said he at any time Thou art my Son this day have I begotten thee And again I will be to him a Father and he shall be to me a Son 6 And again when he bringeth in the first-begotten into the world he faith And let all the angels of God worship him 7 And of the angels he saith Who maketh his angels spirits and his ministers a flame of fire 8 But unto the Son he saith Thy throne O God is for ever and ever a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom 9 Thou hast loved righteousness and hated iniquity therefore God even thy God hath anointed thee with the oyl of gladness above thy Fellows Answ 'T is Evident that by Fellows we are not to understand ANGELS but MEN For verily he took not on him the nature of Angels but he took on him the seed of Abraham Wherefore in all things it behoved him to be made like unto his Brethren that he might be a merciful and faithful High-Priest in things pertaining to God to make reconciliation for the sins of the People Heb. 2. 16 17. I desire any Man that understands the Greek Tongue to compare these words Heb. 1. 8. 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 with those Heb. 2. 14.

Elder Brother by the same Venter to the Duke of Buckingham had been brought into the High Commission Anno 1627. for Living openly in Adultery with Sir John Howard one of the Younger Sons of Thomas the First Earl of Suffolk of that Family Sentenc'd among other things to do Penance at St. Paul's Cross she escap'd her Keepers took Sanctuary in the Savoy and was from thence convey'd away by the French Ambassador The Duke being dead all further Prosecution against her dyed also with him which notwithstanding the Proud Woman being more terrified with the fear of the the Shame than the sence of the Sin vented her malice and displeasure against the Arch-Bishop who had been very severe against her at the time of her Tryal when he was come unto his Greatness spending her Tongue upon him in words so full of deep Disgrace and Reproach unto him that he could do no less than cause her to be laid in the Gate-House But being not long after deliver'd thence by the Practice of Howard aforemention'd Howard was seiz'd upon and laid up in her Place which Punishment tho' it was the least that could be lookt for he so highly Stomach'd that as soon as the Arch-Bishop was Impeach'd by the House of Commons and committed to Custody by the Lords which happened on Friday Decemb. 18. 1640. he Petition'd for Relief against the Arch-Bishop and some others of the high Commissioners by whom the Warrant had been sign'd The Lords upon the reading of it impos'd a Fine of 500 l. on the Arch-Bishop and 250 a piece upon Lamb and Duck and prest it with such cruel Rigour that they forced him to sell his Plate to make Payment of it the Fine being set on Monday 21 of December and Order'd to be paid on Wednesday after Let any sincere Christian in any Part of the World that has ever heard this Story be Judge whether this most Reverend Prelate were not Persecuted for Righteousness sake Most certainly the Wrath of God shall Burn throughout all Generations against the Posterity of his Persecutors if they Approve the MURTHER which their Fore-fathers Committed and against all others who shall ever undertake to Vindicate that Diabolical false Pretence of Justice I pray God that all the Enemies of Truth and Goodness particularly the Anti-Trinitarians may know and feel the Power and Efficacy of these sacred words Matth. 21. 44. Whosoever shall fall on this STONE shall be broken but on whomsoever it shall fall it will Grind him to Powder A VINDICATION OF VINCENTIUS LIRINENSIS c. I Am so sensible of the Orthodoxy of Vincentius Lirinensis in Matters of the greatest Importance to all Mankind that I think it my Duty to Exhort all Young Students in Divinity to the diligent Perusal of that Excellent Book Entitled Vincentii Lirinensis Commonitorium And to declare to all the World my Abhorrency of the unjust Reproach that an Anonymous Writer hath endeavour'd to fix upon this most Zealous Assertor of the Doctrine of the H. B. and Glorious Trinity even in these Days in which we have Heard even from those Men who wou'd retain the Name of Christians such horrid Blasphemies and open Detestations of The Onely True God in whose NAME we are Baptized The Father The Son and The Holy Ghost Animadversions c. pag. 61. Mr. Hill makes a strange use of the Maxim of Vincentius Lirinensis Quod ubique quod semper quod ad omnibus c. That Priest was a Semipilagian that is he thought that a Man could Believe by his own strength and that afterward God gave him Grace to execute his Good and Pious Resolutions He introduced this Maxim meerly in opposition to St. Augustine c. Answ Vincentius Lirinensis was so far from being tainted with the Pelagian Heresy that he Condemn'd Pelagius as a most detestable Heretick or Wrester of the Holy Scriptures as he did Arius Macedonius Nestorius c. He shews us the best way that can ever be to preserve our Souls by the Grace of God from the Contagion of any Heresy whatsoever Sive ego says he sive quis alius vellet exurgentium Haereticorum fraudes deprehendere laqueosque vitare in Fide sana sanus atque integer permanere duplici modo munire Fidem suam Domino adjuvante deberet Primo scilicet Divinae Legis Auctoritate tum deinde Ecclesiae Catholicae Traditione Hic forsitan requirat aliquis Cum sit Perfectus Scripturarum Canon sibique ad omnia satis superque sufficiat quid opus est ut ei Ecclesiasticae Intelligentiae jungatur Auctoritas Quia scilicet Scripturam Sacram pro ipsa sua altitudine non uno eodemque sensu universi accipiunt sed ejusdem eloquia aliter atque aliter alius atque alius interpretatur c. 'T is Evident that by Divina Lex he understands the Holy Scriptures By making the Tradition of the Church subordinate to the Holy Scriptures he plainly Declares that ever since the New Testament was Written it has been the Duty of all Ministers of the Gospel to Confirm or Prove the Truth of their Oral Discourses by shewing their Conformity to the Writings of the holy Apostles 'T is Evident that by the Tradition of the Church we are to understand a Summary or Breviary of the Fundamental Points or Articles of the Christian Religion which the Holy APOSTLES and Their SUCCESSORS throughout all Ages have Delivered to the World by word of Mouth in their Preaching and Catechizing Injoyning all Christians in all Parts of the Earth to ponder them in their Hearts and to be always mindful of them This Summary or Breviary of the Prime Articles of the Christian Religion is contain'd in that Form of sound Words which we call the Apostles Creed And this is that TRADITION or FAITH once DELIVER'D to the Saints which St. Irenaeus speaks so much of which I doubt not but all Learned Men will acknowledge when they shall duly consider those words of that Blessed Saint which I shall here recite D. Irenaei adversus Haereses Lib. 1. Cap. 2. Ecclesia quanquam per universum orbem terrarum usque ad fines terrae dispersa ab Apostolis eorum Discipulis Fidem accepit quae est in unum Deum Omnipotentem qui fecit coelum terram maria omnia quae in eis sunt Et in unum Christum Jesum Filium Dei incarnatum pro nostra salute Et in Spiritum Sanctum qui per Prophetas Praedicavit Dispensationis mysteria adventus ex Virgine nativitatem passionem resurrectionem ex mortuis in Carne ad coelos assumptionem dilecti Christi Jesu Domini nostri ipsius ex coelis in gloria Patris adventum ad instauranda omnia excitandam omnem totius humani generis carnem cui Christo Jesu Domino nostro Deo Salvatori Regi juxta voluntatem Patris invisibilis omne genu flectatur coelestium terrestrium infernorum omnis lingua confiteatur