Communion al this while Yet are there sum that whisper in corners that the masse is ablessed a catholike thing and y ◠the holy Communion which now god of his great mercy hathe restored to vs is wicked and scismaticall therefore they murmure against it therfore they refrayne it wyll not come to it O mercifull God who woulde thynke there coulde be so muche wilfulnes in the heart of man O Gregorye O Augustine O Hierome O Chrisostome O Leo O Dionyse O Anacletus O sixtus O Paule O Christ If we be deceyued herein ye are they y ◠haue deceyued vs. You haue taught vs these sci◅nes diuisions ye haue taught vs these heresies Thus ye ordred the holy communiō in your tyme the same w◅ receyued at your hand and haue faithfullye delyuered it vnto the people And that ye may the more meruell at the wylfulnes of suche men they stande this day against so manye olde fathers so manye doctoures so many examples of the primitiue churche so manifest and so plaine words of the holye scriptures yet haue they herein not one father not one doctor not one allowed example of the prymitiue churche to make for them And when I say not one I speak not this in vehemencie of spirite or heate of talke but euen as before God by the way of simplicity and truth lest any of you shoulde happely be deceyued and thynke there is more weyght in the other syde thē in cōclusion there shal be found And therfore once agayne I say of all the words of the holye scriptures of all the examples of y ◠primitiue churche of all the olde fathers of all the aunciēt doctors in these causes they haue not one Here the mater it selfe that I haue nowe in hand putteth me in remembraunce of certein thinges that I vttered vnto you to y ◠same purpose at my last beynge in thys place I remember I layed out then here before you a number of thinges that are nowe in contronersie◅ wherunto our aduersaries will not yelde And I said perhappes boldely as it might then seeme to sum man But as I my self and the learned of our aduersaries thēselues do wel know sincerely and trulye that none of all them that this day stande against vs are able or shall euer be able to proue against vs any one of all those points ether by y ◠scriptures or by exāple of y t primitiue church or by the olde doctours or by the auncient generall councelles Since that tyme it hathe ben reported in places that I spake then more then I was able to iustifye and make good Howe beit these reportes were onely made in corners and therefore ought the lesse to trouble me But if my sayinges had ben so weake myght so easelye haue ben reproued I meruayle that the partyes neuer yet came to the lyght to take the aduauntage For my promise was and that openly here before you all That if anye man were able to proue the contrary I woulde yelde and subscribe to hym And he shoulde depart with the victorye Loth I am to trouble you with rehersall of suche thinges as I haue spokē afore and yet because the case so requireth I shall desire you that haue alredy hearde me to beare y ◠more with me in this behalf Better it were to trouble your eares with twyse hearing of one thyng then to betray the truth of God The words that I then spake as nere as I can call them to mynd were these If any learned man of all our aduersaries or if all y e learned men that be alyue be able to bring any one sufficient sentence out of any olde catholike doctour or father Or out of any olde generall counsell Or out of y ◠holye scriptures of God Or any one example of the primitiue Churche wherby it may be clearly plainly proued y t there was any priuate masse in the whole worlde at that tyme for the space of sixe hundred yeres after Christ Or that there was then any Communion ministred vnto the people vnder one kind Or that the people had th◅r commē prayers then in a straūge toung that they vnderstode not Or that the Bishop of Rome was then called an vniuersal Bishop or the head of y ◠vniuersal churche Or that y ◠people was then taught to beleue that Christes bodye is really substantially corporally carnally or naturally in the sacrament Or that his body is or maye be in a thousand places or mo at one tyme Or that the priest did then holde vp the sacrament ouer hys head Or that the people dyd then fall down and worship it w t godly honour Or that the sacrament was then or nowe oughte tobe hanged vp vnder a canopie Or that in the Sacrament after the wordes of consecration there remaineth only the accidents and shewes without the substaunce of bread and wyne Or that the priest then deuyded the Sacramente in three partes and afterward receyued him selfe all alone Or y ◠wh◅ so euer had said the sacramente is a figure a pledge a token or a remembraunce of Christes bodye had therefore been iudged for an heretike Or that it was lawfull then to haue xxx xx xv x. or v. Masses said in one Churche in one day Or that Images were then set vp in the churches to the entente the people might worship them Or that the lay people was then forbidden to reade the word of God in theyr owne toung If any man alyue wer able to proue any of these articles by anye one cleare or plaine clause or sentēce ether of the scriptures or of the olde doctours or of any olde generall Counsell or by any example of the primitiue chuech I promised then that I would geue ouer and subscribe vnto hym These words are the very lyke I remember I spake here openly before you all And these be the things that sum men say I haue spoken and cannot iustify But I for my part will not only not call in any thinge that I then sayd beinge well assured of the truth therein but also will laye more mater to y ◠same That if they that seeke occasion haue any thing to y ◠contrary they may haue the larger scope to replye againstme Wherfore besyde al that I haue said alredy I wil say farther and yet nothing so much as might be sayd If any one of all our aduersaries be able clearly and plainlye to proue by such authority of the scriptures the olde doctoures councelles as I said before that it was then lawfull for the priest to pronounce the wordes of consecration closely and in sylence to him self Or that the priest had th◅ authority to offer vp Christ vnto his father Or to communicate receyue the sacramēt for an other as they do Or to apply the vertue of Christes death and passion to any man by the meane of y ◠masse Or that it was then thought a sound doctrine to
and crieth vnto them Sursum corda Lift vp your heartes according to y â— doctrin of s. Paule Si vna surrexistis cum Christo ea quae sursum sunt quaerite vbi Christus est sedens ad dexteram patris If ye be risen again with Chryst seke for those thinges y â— be aboue where as Christ is sittinge at the right hand of his father And again Nostra 〈◊〉 est in coelis vnde Saluatorem expectamus Our conuersation or dwelling is in heauen from whence we loke for our 〈◊〉 Therfore S. Augustine speake the wordes y t I before alledged Nemo manducat nisi prius adoret No man eateth Chrystes fleshe but fyrste he doth worship it The eating therof the worshipynge must ioyne together But where we eate it there must we worshyp it Therfore must we worshyp it syttyng in heauen So sayth the olde doctour father s. ChrisostoÌ„ Vbi cadauer ibi aquilae Cadauer do mini corpus est Aquillas autem nos appellat vt ostendat oportere illum ad alta contendere qui ad hoc corpus accedit Aquilarum enim non graculoruÌ„ est haec meÌ„sa That is to saye Where soeuer is the carcase there be the Egles The carcase is Christes bodye vs he calleth the Egles to declare that whosoeuer wil approche neare to that bodye must geat a lofte For this is a banket for Egles y â— soare a high not for Iayes y t kepe the ground Christes body is in heauen Thether therefore must we direct our hartes there must we feede there must we refrcshe our selfe there must we worship it So sayth S. Hierome Ascendamus cum eo in caenaculum magnum stratum ibi accipiamus ab eo sursum caliceÌ„ noui testamenti Let vs get vp sayth S Hierom wyth him into the great dyninge chamber that is already prepared and there let vs receyue of him aboue the cup of the new testament So sayth saint Ambrose Non super terram nec in terra nec secundum terram te quaerere debemus si volumus inuenire We maye not leke for the neither vpon y e earth nor in y t earth nor about y e earth if we list to find y t. And to coÌ„clude so sayth Eusebius Emissemus Exaltata mente adora corpus Dei tui That is lyfting vp thy minde vnto heauen there worshyp and adour the body of thy God Thus did the olde Catholike fathers worship y â— bodye of Christ. Thus may we also worship it safely and without perill But to geue Goddes honor to y â— sacrament is a thing both latelye brought into y â— churche vnknown straunge to the auncieÌ„t doctors and as the scholemen and the greatest mainteiners of it haue them selues confessed an occasion of idolatry and full of daunger For what if the priest happen not to coÌ„secrate what if he leaue out of the words of consecration neuer speake theÌ„ as it is known that sum priests haue done manye yeares together Or what if the priest haue no intentioÌ„ or mynd to consecrate what case standeth the pore people theÌ„ in Or what thing is it that they worshyp Chrystes body cannot be there without coÌ„secration Consecration there can be none as they them selues haue taught if there misse ether pronuÌ„tiation an vtteraunce of y e words or elles purpose to coÌ„secrate intenton And howe can the people know w t what intentioÌ„ or mynd y priest goth to the masse Or whether he hath duly pronounced the wordes Or whether he hath coÌ„secrated or no And knowinge none of these things which in very dede is not possible for theÌ„ to know how can they be wel assured y t it is the body of Christ y t the priest holdeth vp wherunto they fall downe geue godly honor Thus by theyr own learniÌ„g y e people must nedes stand stil in doubt neâ—…er knowe certeÌ„li what they worship O good people think not y t I imagin these things of my self Our own aduer saries y t stand against vs in thys cause euen the famoust and best learned of them al haue sene and wrytten and confessed the same Alexander a Bishop of Rome wryting vpon the master of y e sentences taketh vp the mater on this sorte for as much as y e priests purpose his priuie 〈◊〉 about y â— consecration cannot be knowen y t therfore no man ought to worship the sacrament when it is holden vp but with this condition si ille consecrauerit That is If the Priest hath consecrated That is to say when ye se y e â—…acrament lifted vp ye must saye or thinke thus w t your self If this priesthath coÌ„secrated theÌ„do I wor ship it If he hath not consecrated theÌ„ do I not worship it This saith Alexander a Bishop of Rome But Thomas of Aquine leaueth the mater a litle more at large â–ª He saith Ista conditio non semper actu requiritur satis est habere habituÌ„ That is to say It shall not be nedefull at euery tyme to saye or to thinke thus whensoeuer ye knele down to worship but it shal be sufficient if ye haue a certein redines in your mynd to say or to thynke so Yet Holcot writynge likewyse vpon the master of the sentences saith thus Laicus adorat hostiam non consecratam ista fides sufficit illi ad saluationem tameÌ„ est erronea The lay maÌ„ saith he as it may sumtymes happen worshyppeth a wafer y â— is not consecrate This faith is sufficient vnto hym to his saluatioÌ„ and yet is it a false faith and erronious And farther he coÌ„cludeth in this sort Homo potest mereri per fideÌ„ erroneam etiaÌ„si coÌ„tiÌ„gat vt adoret diaboluÌ„ By these words we may se such as wil not content theÌ„ selues to be ordred by Gods wisdom how daungerously they runne headlong at the last Holcot was not the wurst learned man amongste them Yet to vpholde the erroure that he had once taken in hande to defende he was dryuen to confeâ—…se that a maÌ„ maye meede at Goddes hande by an erroneous and false fayth yea althoughe he worshyp the deuell This is the certeÌ„â—…y of y e doctrine that y e people of God of long tyme hath ben led in In y e highest heauenliest point of religioÌ„ y t is in y e worshippinge of God they them selues know not what they do It is true of them that Chryst saith to the woman of Samaria ye worship ye know not what Alas â–ª is this the honour y t is due to Christ Is this the worshipinge of God in spirit truth Is this y â— seking of Christ inheaueÌ„ But sum man will say these be 〈◊〉 and light maters and proue nothynge Such reportes I know are geueÌ„ abrode of all that is preached and taught this day that what soeuer is spokeÌ„ by any of vs is light and childish and not worth y â— hearing But the reporters hereof are
whole Churche of Christ at that time Or y t there was then any communion ministred in the church to the people vnder one kinde only Or y t the commen prayers were then pronouÌ„ced in a strauÌ„ge toÌ„ge that the people vnderstoode not Or that the Bishoppe of Rome was then called Vniuersalis Episcopus or Caput Vniuersalis Ecclesiae an vniuersall Bishoppe of the whole world or els the head of the vniuersall Churche Or that the people was then taught to beleue that in the Sacrament after the coÌ„secration the substauÌ„ce of Bread and wyne departeth awaye and that there remayneth nothing els but only the accidentes of Bread and wine Or that then it was thoughte lawfull to say x. xx or xxx masses in one churche in one day Or that the people was theÌ„ forbidden to praye or to reade the scriptures in theyr mother tonge And other â—…o Articles a great number I rekened vp then at Poules Crosse which it were loÌ„g now to rehearse And if any one of all these articles can bee sufficiently proued by such authoritie as I haue said as ye haue borne y â— people in haÌ„de ye can proue them by I am well content to stande to my promisse â—…f you saye these are but smal matters in comparison of others yet as small as ye wolde haue theÌ„ seeme now â–ª sum men haue felte no small smarte for them And where you merueile why I began not rather with the reall presence with Justification with the valew of good workes with the sacrifice of the Masse wyth praying vnto sainctes with prayinge for the dead althoughe in deede it maye seeme very mutche for me to be appointed by others what order I shoulde take in my preachinge yet to answeare the truth why I passed by these maters at the first and rather began with other the cause was not for that I doubted in any of the premisses but only for that I knewe the matters that you â—…ue questioÌ„ of might at least haue sum colour or shadow of the doctours But I thought it best to make my entree 〈◊〉 such thinges as wherin I was well assured yâ—…â—…lde be able to finde not so mutche as any colour at all And if ye will firste graunt this to be trewe as I beleue you will notwithstandinge the people haue ben longe told the conâ—…rary afterwarde I am well content to trauel with you father in the rest Further I merueile mutche ye write y t touching a priuate masse or the receiuing vnder one kinde or the commeâ—… prayers to be had in an vnknowen tongue or otherwise ye are not resolued to answear precisely without if or and â–ª For where ye saye ye are coÌ„tent to be ordered herein by a generall Councell first I woulde 〈◊〉 what general Councel of any antiquitie euer decreed any of those matters against vs 〈◊〉 perhap â—…es ye wil say the councel of CouÌ„stauce that of late yeres pronounced oâ—…y against Christ himselfe â–ª and all the primitâ—… churche that it shoulde be a 〈◊〉 disorder if the people should commâ—… cate vnder both kindes And haâ—…g no 〈◊〉 couÌ„cel that 〈◊〉 was to alledge in these matters I maruâ—… how ye can iustly say ye are altogether ordered by couÌ„celles And yet farther woulde I learne what warrant any general CouÌ„cel can haue to decree any thinge contrary to goddes word Where ye say ye haue sene maister Caluines and maister Bucers reasons haue founde them very weake and not able to moue any other then yonge 〈◊〉 and vnlearned people me thinketh that answeare is so commen and so general that it maâ—…â—…erue our tourne as well as yours For we haue reade Coclaeus Eckius Pigghius 〈◊〉 and such others haue found such reasoÌ„s and answeares in them as I beleue you your selfe are not mâ—…che moued withall Where you saye that maister Caluâ—…es anâ—… maâ—…ster Bucâ—…rs reasons haue benne answeared I graunt in deede they haue 〈◊〉 answeared but not so muâ—…che by learninge as by other meanes as you knowâ—… But your reasoÌ„s haue 〈◊〉 answered by reason 〈◊〉 â–ª as now God be thanked the whole worlde knoweth But to conclude as I began I answeare that in these articles I holde only the negatiue and therfore I loke howe you will be able to affirme the contrarie and that as I said afore by sufficient authoritie Whiche if ye do not you shal cause me the more to be resolued others to stande the more in doubt of the rest of your learning 20. Martij Io. Sarum â–ª ⧠D. Coles seconde Letter to the Bishop of Sarum I Shall for this tyme passâ—… ouer all other partes of your answeare and renew my former suite vnto you in most hartye and humble wise desiring you to giue eare vnto me in the same Remember â—…or goddes sake howe I began with you not for other entent then to be instructed why I shoulde be accompted obstinate for standing in coÌ„trary opinion with you Nowe when I weighe your answere sent me lately in writinge I thinke you do mistake my doyng supposing that the same coÌ„meth not of such grounde as it doth My letter sent to your declareth in my first entree with you what my meaning was and wherof it proceded I hearde by reporte of manie that bothe at Powles other where ye openly wished that one man thinkinge otherwise then you do would charitably talke with you whom you would with like charitie answeare and â—…ndeuour to satisfye And although yoâ—… had not so protestâ—…d yet is it the parte of a common and publike preacher to performe no lesse when occasion is geueÌ„ With whyche cause I was moued to write as I did entendinge if I might to learne of you that I knew not and that coulde by learning perswade a man not wholy vnlâ—…arned to yelde therunto according to the wordes of my writinge and â—…rotestation But I â—…nde not this meanynge in your writiÌ„g sente vnto me wherin you shâ—…e your selfe â—…isposed only to defede your teaching as confessed and take fâ—…r trew nâ—… to giue any accâ—…pte thâ—…rof or to satisfye any y â— doubteth And there you 〈◊〉 me allâ—…age to the contrarye and â—…proue your saying which neither reason nor lawe can driue me to Râ—…ason â—…icause the doctrine being yet dâ—…btfull and standinge vpon proufe the teacher shoulde firste approue it vnto suche as doubte Which the custome of learning in all vniuersities proueth true Where the oppenâ—…t when â—…atter is â—…enied as your doctrine is by vs alleageth â—…or y â— parte which he would haue sâ—…me â—…rew Anâ—… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 â—…ou to disproue that doâ—… 〈◊〉 which lonâ—…e time hath benne 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 more when any man professed a râ—…formation of doctrine as you dâ—… 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 hath euer alleaged causes wlâ—…y they so did 〈◊〉 so take â—… hande â–ª to proue that they taught â–ª agaiâ—…st such as did and woulde thinke otherwise But bicause you aâ—…e aâ—… Bishop and 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 â—…tche an 〈◊〉 ye doubt 〈◊〉 â—…ou ought 〈◊〉 shewe cause of y
require you to no greate paine one good sentence shal be sufficient You would haue your priuate masse the Bishop of Romes Supremarie the Commen prayer in an vnknowen tongue and for the defence of the same ye haue made no sinal adoo Me thinketh it reasonable ye bryng sum one authoritie beside your owne to auouche the same withall Ye haue made y â— vnlearned people beleue ye had al the Doctours al the CouÌ„celles fiften huÌ„dred yeres on your side For your credites sake let not all these great vauÌ„ts come to naught Where ye say ye are in place of a learner and gladly cum to be taught you must pardon me it semeth very hard to beleue For if you were desirous to learne as you would seme ye would cum to the Church ye would resort to the lessons ye would abide to hear a sermon for these are the Scholes if a man list to learn It is a token the scholer passeth 〈◊〉 for his Boke y e wil neuer be brought to Schole Ye desyre ye may not be put of but y t your suit may be considered And yet this half yere long I haue desired of you of your bretheâ—… but one sentence and still I know not how I am cast of and can get nothing at your handes You call for the speciall proufes of our doctrine whiche would require a whole Boke where as if you of your part could vouchesaue to bring but two lines the whole matter were concluded Yet lest I should seme to flie rekening as ye do or to folow you in discourtesie I wil perfourme sum part of your request although in dede it be vnreasonable Agayust your new deâ—…se of traÌ„substantiatioÌ„ besides many others whom I wil now passe by ye haue the old father doctour Gelasius whose iudgement I beleue ye will regarde the more bicause he was soÌ„time bishop of Rome which See as you haue taught can never 〈◊〉 And is alleaged in the decries his wordes be plaine Non desinit esse substantia panis natura vini It leaueth not to be the substance of bread and the nature of wine But to auoid this authoritie sum men of your side haue ben forced to expound these words in this sorte Non desinit esse substantia hoc est non desinit esse accideÌ„s It leaueth not to be the substaÌ„ce of bread y t is to saye it leaueth not to be the accidence or the fourme or the shape of Bread A very miserable shift Euen as right as the Scholie expoundeth the Text. Dist. 4. Statuimus id est abrogamus Yet doctor Smith of Oxford toke a wiser way For his answear is that Gelasius neuer wrote those wordes and that they hange not together and that there is no sence nor reason in them Here haue you that after the coÌ„ secration there remaineth the sub stance of bread and Wine Now bryng ye but one doctour that will say as ye saye that there remayneth only the accidentes or shapes of bread and wyne and I will yelde As touching a priuate Masse Gregorie saieth in his dialogues that before the time of the CoÌ„munion the Deacon was â—…oute in his time to crie vnto the people Qui non communicat locum cedat alteri who so will not receaue the Communion let him departe and giue place to others To breake the ordinaunce of Christ and to communicate vnder one kinde only your own doctour Gelasius calleth it SacrilegiuÌ„ And Theophilus Alexandrinus sayeth Si Christus mortuus fuisset pro Diabolo non negaretur illi poculum sanguinis â—…f Christ had died for the Deuil the cup of the bloud should not be denied him That the CoÌ„men prayers were vsed in the commen tongue you haue S. Basil S Hierome S. Augustin S. Chrisostome Saint Ambrose and the Emperour Iustiniam the places be knowen You see I disaduantage my self of many thinges that mighte be spoken For at this present I haue no leisure to write Bokes Now must I needes likewyse desire you forasmuche as I haue folowed your minde so far ether to bryng me one olde doctour of your side or els to giue vs leaue to thinke as the trueth is ye haue none to bryng You desire vs to leaue 〈◊〉 agaynst you and no more to 〈◊〉 so 〈◊〉 with you in the pulpittes O maister Doctour call you this vnmercifull dealyng when you were in authoritye ye neuer coulde call vs other then â—…tours and heretiques and yet besides all that vsed our Bodies as you know We only tell the people as our 〈◊〉 is that you withstand the manifest trueth and yet haue nether Doctour nor Councell nor Scripture for you and that you haue shewed such extremitye as y â— like hathe not ben sene and nowe can giue no rekenyng why Or if ye can let it appeare You saye our doctrine is yet in doubt I answere you to vs it is most certein and out of all doubt But if you for your parte be yet in doubt reason and charitie would ye had bene quite resolued out of doubt before ye had dealt so vnmercifully for it w t your brethern You are bound you say may not dispute yet god be thaÌ„ked you are not so bound as ye haue bouÌ„d others But I wold wish y t Quenes maiestie wold not only set you at 〈◊〉 in that behalf but also commaunde you to shewe your groundes But when ye were at liberty â–ª and a free disputatioÌ„ was offred you at Westminster before the Quenes most honorable couÌ„cel the whole estate of y â— Realm â–ª I pray you whether parte was it that then gaue ouer And yet theÌ„ you know ye were not bound Ye say ye remayne still in the faith ye were baptised in O good maister doctor stand not to much in that point You knowe ye haue alreadie for saken a great number of suche thinges as were thought necessarie wheÌ„ ye were Baptised and yet be sides that how many times haue suÌ„ of you altered your faith within the space of twenty yeares Remember your self who wrote the Boke A. De vera obedieÌ„ â–ª tia against the Supremacie of Rome B who commended it with his preface C who set it forth with solemne Sermons D who confirmed it with open othe You haue ecclesiam Apostol â–ª cam ye saye and we haue none Nowbeit in all these matters that we nowe entreat of we haue as you know must needes confesse the olde doctors church the auntient Councelles Church the Primitiue church S. Peters church S. 〈◊〉 Church and Christs Church and this I beleue ought of good right to be called the Apo stelles Churche And I 〈◊〉 mutch that you knowing ye haue none of all these yet should say ye haue ecclesiam Apostolicam Where ye say ye make no innouation it is no marueile for in manner all thinges were altered afore to your hands as may most â—…uidently appear by all these matters that be nowe in question betwene vs wherin ye
an heretike 〈◊〉 knowe there is sumwhat besyde in S. Augustin in s. Hierome in S. 〈◊〉 c. I beleue more then Royarde or Tapâ—… could euer answer Ye knowe that ye your selfe in your last answer graunted me y t the exaÌ„ples of y â— primatiue church are of our syde therfore ye rest 〈◊〉 an 〈◊〉 point that the Primitiue churche in the Apostles old doctours tyme was but an infant and a babe in comparison of your Church of Rome Therfore me thinketh sauinge that it was your pleasure ye were sumwhat ouer seen to say that all our allegations may be couched in syxe lines But as I haue offred you ofteÌ„ times bring ye but two lines of your syd and the field is yours ¶ Sarum YEt lest I should seme to flye conferece and trial which in dede in this case I most desire or to folowe you in discourtesy I will perfourme sume part of your request although in dede it be vnreasonable ¶ Cole IT is no discourtesy to refuse to do that wherwith I might forfeit my recognisaunce The Reply Sarum YOur recognisaunce doth you good seruice to saue your credit ye fly away like a faint Souldiour and yet hold vp your shield as if ye wer fighting still ¶ Sarum AGainst your new deuise of transubstantiation besides manye others whoÌ„ I nowe passe by ye haue y e olde father and doctour Gelasius whose iudgement I beleue ye wil regard y t 〈◊〉 because he was sometymes a Bishop of Rome which See as ye 〈◊〉 taught 〈◊〉 neuer erre And is alledged in y t decrees his wordes be plaine Non desinit esse substantia panis natura vini ¶ Cole I Se 〈◊〉 ye write much and read litle 〈◊〉 〈◊〉 is ful answered by Tapper in articulo de 〈◊〉 Ye alledge his words otherwise then ye find them Which fault I trust goweth 〈◊〉 ouer sight The Reply Sarum HOwe are ye so priuie to my reading â–ª Wyse men auouch no more then they knowe ye lackte shift when ye were driuen to wryt thus I assure you I haue not been so slacke a student these xx yeares but that besydes other old wryters of diuers sorts Grek and Latine I haue not spared to reade ouer euen suche as haue wrytten of youre syde as 〈◊〉 Pigghius Hosmasterus 〈◊〉 Hossius and suche others and yet vmil this day I neuer set abroad in prynte xx lynes But this is youre olde wont to make the people thinke that we reade nothinge els but. ii penny doctoures as ye call them As in the disputation at Westminster ye would seme to stand in doubt whether we were able to vnderstande you or no when ye speake a little Latine and as of late ye doubted not to saye that mayster doctour Martyr was not ablâ—… to make a Sillogismus which thing in dede is as true as the rest of your religion But I praye you what had Stephen Gardiner red when he alledged the third voke of S. Augustin de sermone domini in moâ—…e and yet S. Augustin neuer wrote but two What had the same Stephen Gardiner rede when he alledged Theophilactus and called hym Theophilus Alexandrinus who was before Theophylactus well nere fyue hâ—…ndred yeres What had doctour Smith of Dron red that openly in the disputatioÌ„s there An. Domini 1554. alledged the couâ—…cell of Nice to proue the phansy of your transubstantiation and when he came to shew the place was not able to fynd one worde other in that couÌ„cell or in any other of antiquitie that might seme to make for it What had he red that being a Judg in y â— same disputations cried out so bitterly vpon y e man of god the Archebishop of Canterburie and that foure or fyue times together osteÌ„de mihi qualis corpus fuit qualis corpus fuit was not hable to vtter his mind in coÌ„grue latin This thing I trust ye wil recorde with me for it was spokeÌ„ in your own hearing Your importunitie hath caused me contrary to myn own nature to vtter these things which otherwise I coulde haue conceiled O bost not â—…our self to much of your great reading When ye bring me any olde Doctour or councell for your purpose in the matters y e we now talke of then will I saye ye haue read muche As for Gelasius how soeuer it pleaseth D. Tapper to coâ—…tue him he sayeth plainly that in the Sacrament there remaineth the substaunce and nature of breade and wyne But ye say I alledge Gelasius otherwise then I fynde him and hereof your frends haue made much a do I se it muste be a very small fault that shall escape your eyes Gelasius wordes be these Non desinit esse substaÌ„tia panis vel natura vinâ—… Which words hauing not the boke at hand I re ported thus Non desinit esse substantia panis natura vini I besech you howe far went I 〈◊〉 from the words or from the meaning of the authour I se it was not for nought that childreÌ„ in the Scholes were wonte to fynde a difference betwene these two proposicions comedi bis paneÌ„ and bis panem comedi But I perceine the faut was such that ye were loth to make mater of it If I had altered any part of the sence and meaning of the wryter I trow I had ben lyke to heare more of it I remember what a clappinge of handes and stamping of fete ye made at Oxen. agaynst that notable godlye learned man the Archebishop of Cantorburye for that he alledging a place oute of Saint Hilarie had chaunged but one letter and wrytten verò in stende of verè Ye triumphed ouer hym and poynted hym to the people and called hym a falsarie a wrester a corrupter of the Doctours And yet afterward it was founde and wil yet appere y e two of your owne doctours Steuen Gardiner Smith in their owne printed bokes had chaunged the same letter written vero aswel as he Howbeit God be thanked ye will not geue me cause to fynde such fault with your allegations for ye are able to alledge nothing at all But it were to loÌ„g to shew how many times and how shamefully the wryters of your syd haue corrupted the old doctours Yet for example sake of a great nomber to shew you one or two how thinke ye by your doctour Pighius that violeÌ„tly altereth both the words and the meaning of S. Augustin For where S. Augustine wryteth thus Quid tam grate offerri aut ab illo suscipi potest quam caro sacrificii nostri corpus effectum Sacerdotis nostri meaninge the Sacrifice that Christ offered vpon the Crosse. Pighius putteth in of hys own A nobis which S. Augustin had not and made vp the sentence of this sorte Quid tam gratè offerri à nobis aut ab illo suscipi potest quam caro sacrificii nostri corpus effectum Sacerdotis nostri and so perforce turned it to the pretensed Sacrifice of your masse How thinke ye
syde against theyr Princes But as I then neuer liked theÌ„ that drew their sword against their souerain eueÌ„ so now I pray god coÌ„fouÌ„d theÌ„ whosoeuer they be y t shal first begin the same What lawe ye ministred vs in those dayes I remit it vnto you that are a lawier But I am well assured ye shewed vs neither diuinitye nor humanitye But I pray you what law had ye to imprison sutche euen as had broken no lawe and so to kepe them in your cole houses in stokes and fetters with all extremitye and exueltye vntil ye had made a lawe for them and to do with them as Cyril saieth the Jewes did with Christ primum ligant deinde causas in eum quaerunt â–ª prius captuÌ„ habent quà m accusatum First they bind him fast saith Cyrill and theÌ„ they deuise matter agaiust hym They lay handes vpon him before any man accuse him What law had ye to burne the Quenes subiectes handes w t candelles or torches before they were condemned to dye by any law What law had ye to ascite a man to appeare peremptoriè at Rome within lxxx dayes and yet that not withstanding to kepe him still in prison in Oxforde and afterwarde for not appearinge at hys day at Rome to condemne hym there as obstinate Or what law had ye to put the same man to death against the expresse wordes of your own lawe after he had subscribed vnto you and was founde in no relapse I trust ye can say some what herein For that you being then a lawier and in commission had the execucion of y t law But I beleue when ye haue searched your bâ—…kes through ye shall fynde ye had not so much law as they that sayd Nos habemus legem secundum legeÌ„ debet mori Sarum WHere ye say our doctrine is yet in doubt I assure you to vs it is most certain and out of doubt But if ye for youre part be yet in doubt reason and charity would ye had been better resolued and qyut out of doubt before ye had dealt so unmercifully with your brethren ¶ Cole I Doubted more theÌ„ I do now ye geue me good cause to be well confirmed The reply Sarum THis is a faire shift of retorike when other help faileth you Euen thus the Pharises after they had ben loÌ„g in a mammering and in doubt of Christ at the last were fully confirmed and out of doubt and saied vnto him 〈◊〉 scimus te habere daemonâ—…um As if they shoulde then haue sayed vnto Christ as you say nowe to vs we doubted more before then we do nowe for nowe ye geue vs good cause to be well confirmed â–ª But if I haue confirmed you bringynge such proufes as ye are not able to answer how then thinke ye haue others cause to be confirmed at your handes that haue vsed suche extremity and yet ar able to bring nothing at all ¶ Sarum YE are bounde ye say and maye not dispute yet are ye not so bounde as ye haue bounde others But when 〈◊〉 wer at libertie and a 〈◊〉 disputation was graunted and offered at Westminster before the Quenes maâ—…esties moste honorable councell and the whole state of the Realm I pray you whether part was it that then gaue ouer And yet the ye knowe ye were not bounde onlesse it were to â—…lence because ye had nothing to say ¶ Cole AT Westminster we came to dispute were answered that there was non appointed wher we refused not to write neyther But when our boke could not be read as yours was we refused not vtterly to dispute but onely in the case if oure boke could not be suffered to be red as indiffereÌ„tly as yours was Now hardely weigh whether ye haue indifferently reported that we vtterly refused to dispute with you or no. The reply Sarum YE could not lightly haue gotten so many vntruethes together without sume stâ—…y Where ye saye ye were answered there was no disputation appointed at Westminster if I should aske you who made you that answer I rekeÌ„ ye would be to siek For I trust ye haue not yet forgotten that ye your selfe were the first man that began to dispute there that day spake there an whole houre together without interruption But I marueil ye say not that we of our part gaue you ouer and refused to dispute Ye say ye refused not to wryte your allegacioÌ„s and answeares as ye had promised to do and earnestly required it might be so and yet contrary to your request and promise ye could not begotten as ye know to writ one line Ye saye your boke could not be read as ours was yet ye knowe ye had no boke there to be read at all as we had As for the indifferent ordering and hearing of the matters I remit that to them that wer the orderers of it of whom ye can not in any wise complain but both your own and the hearers consciences must nedes accuse you The order of the disputaâ—…ion was that both partes shoulde the fyrst day bring in their assertion al in writing and that the nexte day eyther party should answer the others boke and that also by wrytig which was your own request as it wil apperre by your protestation sent to the councell in that behalfe The first day ye came without any boke at all contrary to the order taken and also as I haue sayd to your own request The second day ye refused to procede any father and stode onely vpon this point that onlesse ye might haue the last word ye would not disput For ye said whosoeuer might haue that wer like to discedere cum applausu for these very wordes two of your own company vttered in latin euen by the same termes as I do now Otherwise ye sayd ye would not dispute Which answer was so vain that not onelye y â— rest of the hearers but olso y â— Bishop that theÌ„ was of Yorke your own frend fouÌ„d faulte with it and was ashamed of it bad you procede In conclusion contrary to al meÌ„s loking for onely vpon your refusall the disputacion was sodenlye broken of And I am contente to stande to the iudgement of all the heaâ—…ers herein whether I haue reported indifferently or no. ¶ Sarum YE say ye remayne still in the faith ye wer baptised in O maâ—…ter doctour stande not to much vpon that point Ye know ye haue already forsaken a great number of thinges that were thought necessary when ye were baptised And yet besides that how many tymes haue sum of you altered your faith within the space of xx yeres Remeber wel your self who wrote the boke de vera obedientia against the supremacy of Rome Who commended it with his preface Who set it forth in solemne SermoÌ„s Who confirmed it with open othe ¶ Cole VVHat one thinge am I gone from ye saye muche and proue little Ye meane the 〈◊〉 Bishop of winchester who repented at the
the Scriptures nor obedience vnto sound doctrine is to be weyed in y â— Bishops that rule the councell but onely a certaine solemnity and fourme of law Dioscorus that was President of the same councel and hys wordes be reported in the councell of ChalcedoÌ„ saith thus Theodosius confirmauit omnia quae iudicata sunt à sancta vniuersali synodo generali Theodosius saith he hath confirmed all such things as were determined by this vniuersall and generall councel Here ye see it is called an vniuerlall and a generall councell And afterward in the same councell of Chalcedon ye shall fynde these wordes Sanctissimae Domino amantissimae vniuersalli Synodo congregatae in Epheso metro poli To the holy beloued vnto the Lord y â— vniuersal couÌ„cel gathered in the mother City of Ephesus But if perhappes ye doubte of these wordes because the one was Eutyches the other was Dioscorus by whom they were spoken howbeit notwithstandinge they were heretikes yet could they not lightly make an open lye in a matter that was so euident then reaâ—… ye the olde father Liberatus that was Archidiaconê° CarthaginieÌ„â—â— and liued vnder â—…igilius Bishop of Rome at the least a thousande yeares ago and wryteth the very story of this councell his wordes be these Fit Ephesi generale concilium ad quod conuenerunt Flauianus Eutyches tanquam iudicaÌ„di There is appointed saieth he at Ephesus a generall councel in the whych Flauianus and Eutyches made theyr appearaunce as men standyng to be iudged Nowe if ye wyll say that generale concilium is not in English a general couÌ„cel then I woulde it mighte be put ouer to some other courte O maister doctour if ye meure nothynge els but trueth ye woulde not do â—…s ye do Thus much haue I written in the defence of your doctour Pigghius for that I saw him accused of you without cause ¶ Sarum ANd of the councels holden of laâ—… yeares at Constance and â—…asile â–ª whereas Popâ—… John and Popâ—…â—…ugenius wer deposed he sayth plainly that they decreed both against reason and against nature and against all eramples of antiquity and also agaynst the worde of God And yet both thesâ—… councels were called generall ¶ Cole WHerin doeth Pighius proue the councels 〈◊〉 Constance and Basil to haue erred Mary because they decreed the generall councell to be aboue the Pope Ifye take these two couÌ„cels to haue erred in these points ye are a greater papist then I am For I holde herein rather with Gerson I trow this be one place 〈◊〉 ye wrote not yourself Yet I reken no errour proued in anye generall councell by that ye haue yet sayd The Reply Sarum YEs I assure you master doctour I put in this place all the reast my selfe alone without conference And yet God be thanked I can finde nothing in your wrytinges but suche as any man may sone geasse it came onely froÌ„ your selfe alone Ye take exception before with y t I alledged the couÌ„cell of Basil sent me worde that no such thing could be found But now I see ye are better aduised As touching Pighius I vsed his authority herein as S. Paul to reproue them that denied the resurrection vsed the authoritye of them that baptised for the dead not for that he thought such baptisme wel ministred but onlye for that it serueth to his purpose For I shewed you not what I thoght my selfe but what Pighius your great doctour thought and what ye your selfe must needes thinke vnlesse ye wil pul down your own doctrine and set the Pope hymselfe and all his adhetentes vpon your top But if ye take part with GersoÌ„ as ye saye ye do marke howe the chiefe piller of your buildinge begynnes to shake If the Pope be head of y â— church as ye say and the councell be but Ecclesia representatiua that is a resemblance of the churche as your Canonistes and schole men saye â–ª howe â—…an it be but y â— Pope by your own saying whether Gerson wyl ornyll must â—…des be head of the councell for he that is head of the whole must also be head of y â— part onlesse perhappes ye will saye the parte is greater then the whole Of these grauntes of yours there foloweth consequentlye great â—…conuenience against your selfe ye say The pope is not aboue the councell Ergo. May som other maÌ„ say â–ª He is muche lesse aboue the hole church Again The Pope is not aboue the church Ergo. He is not head of the church But all this notwithstandinge ye saye the counceli is aboue the Pope And yet ye know that euen now whatsoeuer is decreed in any generall couÌ„cell there is euermore deuolucioÌ„ made to y â— Pope as vnto him y t is thought to be aboue the councell and without whom nothing may be concluded Haue ye forgotten that Pope Pius and Pope Julius of late yeres commauÌ„ded there should no appeale be made from the Pope to any councell Haue ye forgotten that the last general councel holden at TrideÌ„t concluded thus at the cude Salua semper in omnibus Sedis Apostolâ—…cae authoritate as confessing opeÌ„ly that they toke the Pope to be aboue the councel Haue ye forgotten that youre own doctoures say Papa est foâ—… omnis iuris the Pope is the fountaine of all maner law And Papa habet omnia iura in scrinio pcctoris sui the Pope hath all lawe vnder the secrete of his breast Haue ye forgotteÌ„ what is written in the Popes own decretales Extra de electione electi potestate Si totus mundus sentiet in aliquo contra Papam videtur quod standum sit sententiae Pape If all the world should geue sentence in any matter against the Pope it appeareth for all that we ought to stande to the determinacion of the Pope Haue ye forgotten that is written in your own councels Papa à nemine iudicatur the Pope is iudged of no man And a ioly reason ioyned to the same Quia non est discipulus supra magistruÌ„ for there is no scholer aboue his master Haue ye forgotten that that is wrytten in your decrees Neque ab Augusto neque a regibus neque a toto clero neque a populo Iudex iudicabitur The iudge that is to say y t Pope shal be iudged nother by the Emperor nother by kings nor by the whole clergye nor by the people And again Aliorum hominum causas voluit Deus per homines ter minare sed huius sedis praesuleÌ„ suo sine questione seruauit arbitrio Other mens causes God woulde haue to be determined and ruled by men But the Bishop of thys See out of all doubt he reserued only to his owne iudgement And again Facta subditorum iudicantur à nobis nostra autem a solo Deo the doinges of our subiectes are iudged by vs but our doinges are iudged onely by God Haue ye forgotten y t your schole men say Papa habet ius infragabile de quo non licet
to answer many thiÌ„gs in one Wherein your wordes because they came flowing down in aboundaunce lyke a Streame they caryed away a great deale of â—…ime and baggage with them First where ye graunte that ye of your syde haue varied and do yet vary from the custome of the Primitiue churche I can not but commend your plaines therin in telling the trueth But where then is your antiquitie becum where be your auncient doctoures Where be the fiftene hundred yeares that ye haue so much talked of If ye woulde graunt the same in the pulpit opeÌ„ly before y e people that we require the vse and order of the Primitiue churche and that ye of your parte maintain your priuate masse your supremacy your vnknowen prayers and the most parte of your religion contrary to thesame that our doctrin is olde and that yours is new If ye woulde but graunte this simply plainly before the people we woulde desyer no more at your handes But ye say further that the examples of the Apostles and doctours vinde you not that in theyr tyme the church was but an infaÌ„t and that many thinges that were good for her in that age would be hurtfull to her in this age And therto notwithstanding your recognisaunce ye alledge S. Augustin and S. Ambrose wherin I haue cause sumwhat to 〈◊〉 at your doinges that nowe can so franckely bring in your doctoures to so smal purpose afore in matters of weght touching the greatest part of the contencion y t standeth â—…etwene vs durst not once name one doctor for feare of youre Recognisaunce At the last ye conclude that it were an error to say we are bouÌ„d of necessity to folow the vse of the Primitiue churche To make you a full and a clear answer hereunto I must nedes vse this distinction There were sum orders in y e Primitiue church commaunded by God and sum other were deuised by men for the better trainyng of y e people Such orders as were commaunded by God may not be chaunged in any case only because God commaunded theÌ„ For as God is euerlasting so is hys worde and commaundement euerlasting Of the other syde suche orders as haue ben deuised by men may be brokeÌ„ vpon sum good consideracion onelye because they were men that deuised theÌ„ For as men them selfe be mortall so all theyr wisedomes and inuentions be but mortall As that the communion should be vsed in the mornynge or at night That womeÌ„ should cum to the church ether couered or opeÌ„ faced wherin ye say Saint Peter toke order That the ministers goods shoulde be all in comen or otherwyse c. These other lyke were things appointed and ordered by men and therfore were neuer vsed in all places of one sorte But as they were brought in by men so might they be dissolued brokeÌ„ by men In these things I graunt the exaÌ„ples of y e doctours or Apostles bynd vs not In these thinges it were an errour to saye we are bounde of necessitie to folow the vse of y e Primitiue church These and other like thinges they be that S. Ambrose speaketh of whom ye at Westminster alledged in the case ye then entreated of directly making against youre selfe And we when we heard you name him first marueled muche what ye ment to medle with hym aboue al others For as touching y t commen prayers to be had in a straunge tong whiche matter we had then in haÌ„d S. Ambrose semeth of purpose to controlle both you your brethren in maner one whole chapter through wrytinge vpon y t. xiiii chap. 1. Cor. And farther the examples that he vseth in the place where ye alledged hym are these That the deacon in the Primitiue churche vsed to preache and in his tyme preached not and that women in the Primitiuâ—… churche vsed to baptyse in his 〈◊〉 baptysed not and that in 〈◊〉 â—…tiue church the Sacrament of Baptysme was ministred at all tymes indifferentlye without difference of dayes and that in his time it was ministred onely vpon certain daies And yet in your church contrary to the order of s. Ambrose both women baptise deacons preach and children are baptised euerye day without difference of tyme. Thus ye would seme to folow S. Ambrose and yet alledge hym in suche places where youre selfe moste of all varye from hym But perhaps your mind was occupied or ye had not theÌ„ leysure to marke hym better Hetherto I thinke we agree y t touchiÌ„g such things as haue been ordeyned by men we are not bouÌ„d of necessity to the order of y t Primitiue church But of the other parte I say y t such thinges as God 〈◊〉 coÌ„mauÌ„ded precisely by hys word may neuer be broken by any custome or consent And such be the thynges y t we now require at your hands not deuised by men but commauÌ„ded by God to last for euer Onlesse ye wil happely say as Montanus did that God hath reuealed both mo thinges and also better thinges vnto you then euer he did vnto his Apostles or els as Manicheus said that the Apostle sawe nothing but onely in speculo in aenigmate or as your doctour Siluester Prierias saith Indulgentiae non habent authoritatem ex verbo Dei sed habent authoritatem ab Ecclesia Romana quia maior est Pardons sayth he haue no ground of gods worde but they haue theyr grouÌ„d of y e church of Rome which is a great deale more The cup which ye haue takeÌ„ froÌ„ the people is not a ceremony but a part of the Sacrament And as good right as ye had to take that part away so good right had ye to take away also the other and so to leaue the people nothing atal And therfore y t old father Gelasius saith aut integra percipiant aut ab integris arceantur ether let theÌ„ receine y e hole SacrameÌ„t y t is to say vnder both kindes or els let theÌ„ be put from y e hole By which words of the olde doctor Gelasius it may appeare y t onlesse both partes of the SacrameÌ„t be receiued together the Sacrament is mangled not whole Again to pray in such a tong as the people may vnderstande and therby be edified is not a ceremony to be changed at mans pleasure but the commaundement of God for Paul wheÌ„ he had spoken long therof concludeth at the end Si quis est Propheta aut spiritualis sciat quod quae scribo domini sunt praecepta If any maÌ„ be a Prophet or spiritual let him wel knowe y e the things y e I wryt are the commaundemeÌ„ts of God Prayer in y t vulgare knoweÌ„ tong S. Paule saith is the coÌ„maundemeÌ„t of God and not an order taken by man Again for any one man to take vpon him to be vniuersal Bishop of the hole churche S. Gregorye sayth it is both against the Gospel of Christ and also against the olde canons and aâ—…cient orders of the churche
Angustine wrytynge vpon the Psalmes sayth thus Oportet nos humano more non auicularum ratione cantare nam Merulae Psipttaci Corui docentur sonare quod nesciunt We must sayth S. Augustin in the prayers that we make to god not chirpe lyke birdes but synge lyke men For Popinioyes Rauens and other birdes are taughte to syng they know not what Iustinian a christian Emperor made a strait constitution that all Bishops and priestes should pronounce the words of the ministration with open voyce y â— the people might say Amen And to passe by all other authoryties and examples in thys behalf before the church grew to corruption all christian men throughout the worlde made theyr common prayers and had the holy coÌ„munion in theyr owne commen and known tong But in y â— masse as it hath ben vsed in thys later age of the worlde the priest vttereth the holye misteries in suche a language as neyther the people nor oftentymes himself vnderstaÌ„deth the meanynge And thus the death of Christ and hys passion is setforthe in suche sorte as the poore people can haue no conforte or frute therby nor geue thankes vnto God nor saye Amen Of all that holy supper and most confortable ordinaunce of Chryst there was nothing for the simple soules to consider but only a number of gestures and countenaunces and yet neither they nor the Pryeste knewe what they mente Thinke you this was Christes meanyng when he ordeyned the coÌ„munion fyrst Thinke you that s. Paule receyued these thynges of the Lorde and deliuered the same to the CorinthiaÌ„s O good brethern Christ ordeyned the holy sacramente for our sakes that we might therby remeÌ„ber y e misteries of his death know the price of his bloud Touchinge the second abuse of the communion vnder one kind it would be long to say so muche as the place woulde seme to require For besydes the Institution of Christ the wordes of S. Paul whyche to a christian man maye seme sufficieÌ„t it was vsed through out the whole catholike churche sixe hundred yeares after Christs ascension vnder both kinds without exception But in one word to say that may be sufficieÌ„t for a wise man to consider Gelasius an olde father of the churche and a bishop of Rome sayth that to minister the coÌ„munion vnder one kind is open sacriledge His wordes be these Diuisio vnius eiusdémque mysterii sine graÌ„di sacrilegio non potest peruenire I trust I shall nede no farther euidence to proue y t the masse in this part hath ben abused The third point y â— I promised to speake of is the canon a thing for many causes very vain in it self so vncertein that no man can readilye tel on whoÌ„ to father it S. Paule saith scio cui credidi cerâ—…us sum I know whom I haue beleued I am certein And vnto Timothe he sayth permane in his quae didicisti sciens a quo didiceris Stande stedfastly in such thinges as thou hast learned knowinge of whom thou hast learned them Yet many men this day stande to the CanoÌ„ as vnto the holiest part of all the masse and know not of whoÌ„ they haue learned it Summe saye Alexander the first made it summe saye Leo summe say Gelasius summe say Gregorius the fyrste Gregorius sayth one Scholasticus summe others say Gregorius the third But Innocenâ—…ius tertius to put the matter quyte out of doubt said plainely it came froÌ„ Christe and from hys Apostles Howe be it who soeuer was the â—…yrste deuiser of it it forceth not The substaunce of it and the meanyng is more material â–ª therof I think it nedeful to touch sum part in as few words as I maye For notw tstanding I haue small pleasure in opening suche maters as may seme odious yet is it behoueful for euery man to vnderstand of that thynge that was compted so high holy what maner a thig it was and what it conteyned First the priest in the Cannon desyreth God to blesse Chrysts body as though it were not sufficieÌ„tly blessed alredi Further he saith that he offereth and presenteth vp Christ vnto his father whiche is an open blasphemy For contrarywyse Christ presenteth vp vs and maketh vs a swete oblation in the sight of God his father Moreouer he desyreth God so to accept the body of his sonne Iesus Christ as he once accepted the sacrifyce of Abel or the oblacion of Melchisedech It is knowen that Abel offered vp of the fruit of hys flock a lamb or a shepe and that Melchisedech offred vnto AbrahaÌ„ and his companie returning from the battaile bread and wyne And thynk we that Christ y e son of God standeth so far in hys fathers displeasure that he nedeth a mortall and a miserable man to be his spokesman to procure him fauour or think we that God receiueth the body of his only begotten son non otherwise then he once receyued a shepe or a lambe at the handes of Abel or theÌ„ AbrahaÌ„ receiued bred and wyn of Melchâ—…sedech If no why then maketh the Priest thys prayer in the canon immediately afther the conâ—…ecration supra quae propitio ac sereno vultu respicere digneris accepta habere sicuti accepta habere dignatus es munera pueri tui iusti Abel sacrificiuÌ„ patriarchae nostri Abraham quod tibi obtulit summus sacerdos tuus Melchisedech That is to say loke down with merciful countenauÌ„ce vpon these sacrifises that is the body of Christ thy son and the cup hys bloude and vouchsafe to receyue theÌ„ as thou sumtyme vouchsauedst to receyue the oblatioÌ„s of thy chyld Abel the iuste and y â— sacrifice of our patriarch Abraham and that thinge y t was offred vnto the by thy hygh pryest Melchisedech Besides thys he desyreth God y â— an angel maye come cary Christes body away into heauen This is y â— prayer that he maketh â—…ube hec perferri per manus sancti angeli tui in sublime altare tuum â–ª what a fable is this that Chryst shuld be borne vpon an angel so caried vp away intoheueÌ„ I would not stand so long vpoÌ„ these folies if force draue me not therunto Therfore I leaue to speake farther of the Canon geuing you occasion by these few thinges y e better to better to iâ—…dge of the reast The fourth matter that remayneth to be touched is y t adoration a great matter full of dauÌ„ger and ful of ieopardie and so muche the more dauÌ„gerous for that it is an honouâ—… beÌ„loÌ„ging onely vnto God and yet without any warraunt of Goddes worde Christ that best knew what ought to be done here in when he ordeyned and deliuered the sacrameÌ„t of his body and bloud gaue no commaundemente that any man shuld fall downe to it or worship it S. Paul that toke the sacrament at Christes hande and as he had takeÌ„ it deliuered it to the Corinthians neuer willed adoration or godly honoure to be geuen vnto it