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of_o reconcilement_n we_o must_v double_v our_o guard_n and_o apprehend_v treachery_n but_o where_o be_v the_o bishop_n conscience_n and_o respect_n to_o piety_n if_o according_a to_o this_o minister_n to_o cement_v a_o rot_a union_n he_o condescend_v not_o only_o to_o relinquish_v his_o faith_n but_o also_o to_o establish_v a_o inexcusable_a idolatry_n for_o his_o word_n assert_v both_o a_o substantial_a presence_n on_o the_o holy_a table_n and_o a_o adoration_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n there_o present_a the_o presence_n he_o mean_v be_v such_o a_o one_o of_o which_o the_o more_o orthodox_n protestant_n do_v not_o doubt_v which_o the_o holy_a father_n very_o often_o mention_n and_o which_o the_o puritan_n gross_o err_v reject_v but_o the_o rigider_v protestant_n reject_v a_o substantial_a not_o a_o gracious_a presence_n so_o that_o the_o bishop_n sense_n will_v admit_v of_o no_o other_o evasion_n beside_o his_o be_v of_o the_o pacifick_n tribe_n which_o be_v it_o seem_v with_o this_o minister_n if_o not_o in_o maledictionibus_fw-la of_o no_o authority_n thus_o this_o impartial_a friend_n to_o truth_n whilst_o he_o shall_v weigh_v the_o argument_n consider_v the_o personal_a quality_n of_o a_o author_n and_o be_v carry_v for_o or_o against_o those_o as_o these_o affect_v or_o displease_v he_o pag._n 66._o l._n 1._o for_o bishop_n tailor_n i_o can_v acquit_v our_o author_n of_o a_o wilful_a prevarication_n etc._n etc._n nor_o i_o the_o answerer_n of_o folly_n for_o meddle_v with_o what_o he_o can_v no_o better_o discharge_v his_o business_n be_v to_o show_v either_o that_o bishop_n tailor_n have_v write_v no_o such_o passage_n as_o be_v cite_v out_o of_o his_o work_n or_o that_o his_o word_n be_v pervert_v from_o their_o literal_a sense_n by_o the_o discourser_n for_o to_o allege_v out_o of_o the_o same_o or_o another_o book_n sentence_n contradictory_n thereto_o will_v expose_v the_o bishop_n indeed_o but_o satisfy_v not_o the_o difficulty_n for_o the_o discourser_n no_o where_o undertake_v that_o dr._n taylor_n have_v not_o say_v and_o unsay_v according_a to_o the_o custom_n of_o protestant_n and_o wit_n but_o that_o he_o have_v say_v what_o with_o any_o candour_n be_v incapable_a of_o any_o other_o meaning_n than_o be_v impose_v in_o the_o oxford_n treatise_n bucer_n advice_n to_o p._n martyr_n ut_fw-la dogma_fw-la sacramentarium_fw-la ambiguis_fw-la loquendi_fw-la formulis_fw-la involveret_fw-la and_o dr._n tailor_n be_v boasting_n and_o practice_n be_v too_o notorious_a to_o be_v insisted-on_a or_o for_o we_o to_o expect_v from_o so_o inconstant_a artificial_a and_o confident_a a_o writer_n other_o than_o that_o according_a as_o his_o humour_n or_o circumstance_n engage_v he_o shall_v sometime_o deliver_v himself_o plain_o sometime_o in_o affect_a and_o intricate_a term_n and_o never_o scruple_n contradict_v himself_o so_o he_o may_v procure_v a_o present_a relief_n when_o reduce_v by_o his_o cause_n or_o indiscretion_n to_o a_o strait_a this_o reply_n to_o this_o minister_n answer_n to_o dr._n tailor_n be_v testimony_n will_v serve_v for_o what_o be_v return_v pag._n 49._o 50._o to_o calvin_n and_o beza_n authority_n if_o other_o place_n contradictory_n can_v be_v pick_v out_o of_o their_o write_n yet_o that_o will_v not_o manifest_v that_o they_o in_o the_o sentence_n cite_v intend_v not_o a_o substantial_a presence_n but_o where_o do_v calvin_n say_v solum_fw-la beneficium_fw-la non_fw-la corpus_fw-la ipsum_fw-la the_o proposition_n contradictory_n to_o neque_fw-la tantum_fw-la beneficium_fw-la sed_fw-la corpus_fw-la ipsum_fw-la be_v it_o not_o of_o this_o proposition_n that_o archbishop_n lawd_n say_v nor_o can_v that_o place_n by_o any_o art_n be_v shift_v or_o by_o any_o violence_n wrest_v from_o calvin_n true_a meaning_n of_o the_o presence_n of_o christ_n in_o and_o at_o the_o bless_a sacrament_n of_o the_o eucharist_n the_o archbishop_n be_v a_o puny_a in_o evasion_n and_o of_o a_o feeble_a spirit_n for_o what_o his_o acuteness_n can_v not_o contrive_v and_o his_o courage_n dare_v not_o attempt_v this_o minister_n have_v discover_v and_o adventure_v to_o perform_v even_o to_o shift_v off_o and_o wrest_v this_o place_n by_o some_o that_o say_v nothing_o different_a and_o by_o other_o that_o say_v nothing_o contradictory_n pag._n 69._o l._n 24._o and_o now_o i_o be_o afraid_a his_o cause_n will_v be_v desperate_a unless_o mr._n thorndike_n can_v support_v it_o the_o same_o course_n be_v take_v to_o answer_v mr._n thorndike_n as_o be_v follow_v to_o dismiss_v most_o of_o the_o precedent_n viz._n endeavour_v to_o oppose_v mr._n thorndike_n to_o himself_o this_o practice_n how_o useful_a and_o how_o frequent_o use_v soever_o it_o be_v by_o the_o answerer_n as_o wondrous_a sufficient_a yet_o be_v reject_v by_o he_o in_o parallel_a case_n and_o he_o take_v that_o liberty_n he_o disallow_v to_o such_o as_o have_v equal_a right_a to_o it_o with_o himself_o yet_o how_o will_v this_o rare_a 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be_v sufficient_o declare_v in_o the_o precedent_a discourse_n let_v it_o suffice_v here_o that_o we_o receive_v it_o by_o the_o hand_n of_o his_o priest_n unite_v to_o he_o in_o this_o office_n as_o himself_o offer_v it_o to_o the_o father_n the_o only_a true_a and_o acceptable_a sacrifice_n in_o the_o heavenly_a temple_n and_o whereof_o we_o invite_v to_o god_n own_o table_n be_v partaker_n as_o of_o the_o sacrifice_n of_o peace_n and_o reconciliation_n the_o same_o body_n which_o be_v immolate_a whilst_z upon_o earth_n remain_v though_o now_o glorify_v till_o the_o end_n of_o the_o world_n when_o they_o that_o pierce_v or_o deny_v or_o disbelieve_v his_o word_n shall_v with_o shame_n and_o everlasting_a remorse_n look_v upon_o he_o pag._n 14._o there_o be_v as_o great_a a_o difference_n especial_o concern_v the_o real_a presence_n of_o our_o lord_n as_o the_o catholic_n charge_v they_o with_o all_o those_o true_o call_v protestant_n assert_v consubstantiation_n the_o zwinglians_n or_o sacramentary_n to_o who_o our_o replier_n join_v himself_o not_o real_a presence_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n at_o all_o but_o of_o the_o benefit_n only_o of_o his_o passion_n the_o church_n of_o england_n and_o her_o doctor_n say_v that_o the_o body_n and_o blood_n of_o our_o lord_n be_v real_o and_o not_o only_o by_o the_o benefit_n and_o effect_n receive_v by_o we_o these_o thing_n be_v plain_o say_v in_o the_o former_a discourse_n what_o be_v the_o meaning_n of_o our_o union_n and_o communion_n with_o christ_n glorify_a body_n and_o how_o this_o be_v or_o can_v be_v perform_v or_o imagine_v according_a to_o our_o replier_n and_o the_o zuinglian_a scheme_n i_o confess_v i_o can_v understand_v how_o according_a to_o the_o catholic_n doctrine_n be_v explain_v before_o though_o i_o know_v also_o the_o zwinglians_n do_v pretend_v to_o such_o benefit_n and_o all_o other_o though_o they_o do_v not_o express_o own_o a_o real_a presence_n pag._n 16._o so_o much_o for_o the_o use_n of_o the_o word_n really_n he_o have_v blundr_v a_o long_a time_n upon_o the_o notion_n of_o really_n how_o it_o signify_v how_o use_v how_o it_o may_v be_v use_v by_o the_o learned_a etc._n etc._n as_o if_o the_o word_n use_v so_o many_o year_n by_o the_o church_n shall_v stand_v or_o fall_v to_o his_o may-bee_n and_o sorry_a conjecture_n at_o length_n he_o say_v a_o thing_n may_v be_v real_o present_a two_o way_n physical_o and_o moral_o where_o rank_n he_o a_o divine_a presence_n a_o spirtual_a presence_n beside_o many_o other_o sort_n of_o presence_n a_o physical_a presence_n be_v a_o local_a presence_n not_o if_o we_o speak_v of_o a_o spiritual_a body_n not_o if_o we_o speak_v of_o a_o miraculous_a presence_n effect_v by_o the_o power_n of_o almighty_a god._n a_o moral_a presence_n be_v call_v sacramental_a this_o be_v a_o confession_n of_o his_o own_o novel_a and_o therefore_o of_o a_o suspicious_a interpretation_n the_o church_n use_v sacramental_a for_o real_a as_o oppose_v to_o 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virtual_a presence_n distinct_a from_o real_a and_o moral_a spiritual_a we_o acknowledge_v as_o before_o but_o this_o be_v real_a and_o not_o virtual_a only_o and_o what_o be_v virtual_a if_o not_o the_o effect_n of_o our_o lord_n passion_n what_o be_v all_o these_o to_o the_o real_a presence_n of_o our_o lord_n body_n the_o only_a question_n pag._n 17._o at_o last_o he_o sit_v down_o with_o this_o conclusion_n that_o if_o right_o understand_v it_o be_v not_o material_a what_o adverb_n we_o use_v we_o may_v say_v it_o be_v real_o essential_o corporal_o present_a i_o have_v think_v it_o have_v be_v the_o custom_n and_o necessary_a to_o express_v the_o church_n doctrine_n in_o her_o own_o word_n and_o not_o to_o have_v use_v the_o know_a word_n of_o the_o church_n in_o a_o arbitrary_a signification_n this_o be_v facere_fw-la quidlibet_fw-la ex_fw-la quolibet_fw-la or_o a_o most_o horrible_a equivocation_n mental_a reservation_n or_o material_a elocution_n with_o which_o at_o another_o time_n he_o will_v raise_v much_o dust_n not_o remember_v his_o own_o doctrine_n that_o we_o may_v put_v what_o signification_n we_o please_v upon_o usual_a word_n a_o salvo_fw-la which_o at_o once_o take_v away_o all_o veracity_n and_o the_o use_n of_o language_n i_o be_o weary_a of_o this_o confusion_n as_o well_o as_o himself_o and_o therefore_o he_o sum_v up_o all_o thus_o the_o papist_n always_o acknowledge_v a_o local_a presence_n the_o contrary_a whereof_o be_v true_a for_o the_o papist_n never_o acknowledge_v a_o local_a presence_n of_o the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n in_o the_o eucharist_n and_o we_o protestant_n whatever_o term_n we_o use_v mean_v only_o a_o spiritual_a and_o virtual_a presence_n and_o explain_v the_o term_n whatever_o it_o be_v we_o make_v use_v of_o to_o that_o effect_n be_v not_o this_o make_v the_o real_a presence_n of_o our_o lord_n only_o figurative_a and_o zuinglianisme_n answ_n no._n pag_n 18._o for_o we_o do_v not_o hold_v that_o we_o bare_o receive_v the_o effect_n and_o benefit_n of_o christ_n body_n but_o we_o hold_v it_o real_o present_a in_o as_o much_o as_o it_o be_v real_o receive_v and_o we_o put_v in_o actual_a possession_n of_o it_o well_o then_o the_o body_n of_o our_o lord_n be_v real_o present_a and_o receive_v answ_n no._n whatever_o we_o say_v we_o mean_v only_o a_o virtual_a presence_n which_o be_v indeed_o only_a a_o figurative_a presence_n and_o be_v own_v by_o the_o zwinglians_n and_o figurativist_n and_o which_o the_o reply_o seek_v to_o avoid_v real_o condemn_v as_o the_o church_n have_v do_v in_o those_o two_o or_o three_o who_o in_o the_o course_n of_o so_o many_o century_n set_v abroach_o such_o or_o the_o like_a opinion_n let_v the_o reply_o also_o take_v notice_n that_o zuinglius_fw-la do_v not_o deny_v eat_v by_o faith_n or_o in_o a_o mysterious_a and_o ineffable_a manner_n by_o which_o mist_n of_o word_n the_o reply_o in_o vain_a think_v to_o pass_v for_o orthodox_n pag._n 20._o stumble_v no_o it_o be_v the_o replier_n cavil_n the_o rubric_n say_v not_o as_o he_o pretend_v a_o true_a natural_a body_n can_v be_v &c_n &c_n but_o it_o be_v against_o the_o truth_n of_o a_o natural_a body_n to_o be_v &c_n &c_n which_o be_v not_o very_o good_a sense_n we_o not_o know_v what_o a_o false_a natural_a body_n be_v except_o the_o meaning_n of_o it_o be_v that_o this_o proposition_n a_o natural_a body_n can_v be_v in_o several_a place_n be_v not_o true_a which_o be_v the_o very_a same_o which_o our_o author_n say_v ineffable_a mystery_n the_o replier_n dare_v not_o deny_v that_o the_o divine_n of_o the_o church_n of_o england_n as_o well_o as_o those_o of_o the_o catholic_n church_n acknowledge_v the_o presence_n of_o our_o lord_n in_o the_o eucharist_n to_o be_v a_o mystery_n but_o say_v they_o acknowledge_v our_o union_n with_o christ_n to_o be_v a_o mystery_n which_o be_v not_o opposite_a to_o the_o other_o though_o indeed_o it_o be_v too_o mysterious_a to_o know_v how_o this_o union_n follow_v from_o his_o doctrine_n opposite_a and_o contradictory_n to_o persuade_v the_o reader_n that_o our_o author_n allow_v contradiction_n to_o he_o true_a he_o leave_v out_o the_o word_n seem_o as_o also_o also_o 21._o which_o seem_v to_o we_o to_o include_v a_o contradiction_n take_v notice_n therefore_o that_o no_o catholic_n affirm_v that_o god_n can_v make_v two_o contradictory_n to_o be_v true_a and_o that_o there_o be_v no_o contradiction_n in_o their_o doctrine_n of_o the_o eucharist_n but_o they_o believe_v it_o to_o be_v plain_o reveal_v by_o our_o saviour_n own_o word_n and_o st._n paul_n v._o forego_v discourse_n p._n 18_o pag._n 21._o the_o doctrine_n of_o the_o trinity_n do_v as_o much_o violence_n to_o philosophy_n as_o transubstantiation_n but_o transubstantiation_n be_v a_o contradiction_n pag._n 25._o bishop_n andrews_n famous_a say_n which_o the_o