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A20001 A summarie ansvvere to al the material points in any of Master Darel his bookes More especiallie to that one booke of his, intituled, the Doctrine of the possession and dispossession of demoniaks out of the word of God. By Iohn Deacon. Iohn Walker. Preachers. Deacon, John, 17th cent.; Walker, John, preacher. aut 1601 (1601) STC 6440; ESTC S109440 212,590 277

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his said absolute authoritie either the onely efficient or an instrument at least in euery such powerfull expelling of spirits and Diuels If you make Christ his absolute authoritie the onely efficient cause for the powerfull expelling of Diuels in these dayes of the Gospell then surely howsoeuer you may vrge your pretended ordinarie meanes of prayer and fasting for the intreatie of Christ the authoritie or power that expels the Diuell is either but one and the same and so by consequence the casting out of Diuels euen now in these latter daies of the Gospell it must needes be as miraculous as euer before On the other side if the driuing out of Diuels be now wrought by the absolute authoritie of Christ but instrumentallie at the becke and appointment of your prayer and fasting then your said speech it implieth thus much at the least Namely that either the bare exercise of your prayer and fasting is able efficiently to accomplish that worke ex opere operato by the onely bare worke being barely done or that in the very words of your prayer at least there is couertly contained some certaine magicall force for the timely effecting thereof Thus then as your reason is very ridiculous so surely your fond allusion from the Queene and Lord Chancellor is to too absurd For first you propound a case which neuer shall be and therefore the same can neuer illustrate your purpose in hand Besides that you do by the Lord Chancellors death too highly derogate from her Maiesties absolute authoritie in making those matters whatsoeuer which her highnes being thereunto entreated by some of her subiectes shall by her absolute authoritie effect in her owne proper person to be lesse admirable by many degrees then those which were wrought before by the Lord Chancellor his committed power Howbeit to the end we may liuely illustrate the matter it selfe let vs admitte the case to be thus The Queenes Maiestie next and immediatly vnder God doth gouerne this kingdome by her absolute authoritie This absolute authoritie she hath in part dispensed to some certaine persons subordinate vnder her for the orderly execution of iustice and mercie among the rest of her subiectes ratifying and approuing whatsoeuer those persons shall correspondently conclude according to the tenour of her Maiesties pleasure expressed at large in her Lawes Yea and approouing the same to be as authenticall as if she by her absolute authoritie had effected the same in her owne proper person And which more is vpon the primarie establishment of her said absolute authoritie she appointeth as a temporarie officer the L. Keeper of her great seale to confirme and establish from time to time as occasion requireth all those the former constitutions of mercie or iustice by annexing the broade seale of England vnto them ratifying and approuing as before whatsoeuer he accomplisheth accordingly This Lord Keeper being as you heard but a temporarie officer he dieth whereupon her Maiestie intendeth that his said temporarie office shall fullie determine for euer and reseruing that extraordinarie power to her selfe she neuer purposeth to set to her said seale as before but will now haue her said subiects very dutifully to accept of her future graunts and decrees in no lesse assurance of her former experimented faithfulnes then if they were extraordinarily sealed vp as in former times with tenne thousand authenticall seales The case being thus the question is this Whether her subiects seeing her Maiesties pleasure to the contrarie may warrantablie supplicate now for her Highnesse said temporarie seale to any her future graunts or decrees or if any shall rashly attempt such a course whether the same doth not argue in him an vndutifull presumption or hopelesse distrust at the least and so by consequence doth highly offend her Maiestie There is no man of common sense that may iustly denie the same Now then the application is this Christ Iesus hauing absolute authoritie from God the Father to gouerne his Church committeth part of his said authoritie to Apostles Prophets Euangelists pastors and teachers commaunding them by his Word and Sacraments to witnes his good will towards his Church to the end of the world Giuing to some peculiar persons among the rest a temporarie grace or power to seale vp for a season his said Word and Sacraments with extraordinarie and miraculous actions These extraordinarie actions he doth after determine for euer and will now haue all men to receiue his said Word and Sacraments as the authenticall truths of his former experimented faithfulnes towards his said Church without any farther superfluous seales to the end of the world and reseruing that extraordinarie power to himselfe neuer purposeth to set to his said extraordinarie seale as in former times but will now haue his said Church very faithfully to entertaine the timely reuelation of his future promises in as full an assurance of that his former experimented faithfulnes towards her and euery member as if this said faithfulnes were extraordinarily sealed vp with ten thousand such temporarie seales Now then the case being so as you see the question is this Whether the purpose of Christ standing so as wee say it be not an intolerable presumption or filthie distrust at the least for any whomsoeuer to supplicate Christ for that extraordinarie fauour afresh which he hath finally and fully determined and so by consequence whether it bee not now a presumptuous sinne for any how holie soeuer in shew to vndertake or attempt such a rash and vnwarranted course I verely beleeue it is sinne and that your selfe dare neuer denie the same Notwithstanding admit by the way that any presumptuous person so supplicating our Sauiour in such doubtfull vncertainties should for the bewitching of himselfe and the triall of others obtaine in some secret iudgement his hearts desire the question is whether that extraordinarie seale so set to in iudgement by Christ his absolute authoritie bee not as glorious yea much more glorious and more admirable now then that which was put to before by some such special persons as were thereunto enabled by Christ for a time and whether that power which effecteth such worke either then or now bee not euermore one and the same of equall authoritie and like admiration I hope you haue not the face to withstand the infallible truth thereof And therefore in auouching so confidently that this your new-found ordinance for the powerfull expelling of Diuels by prayer and fasting is now establisht and continued for euer euen by the apparant proclamation of our Sauiour himselfe when no such proclamation is any where recorded throughout the Canonicall Scriptures you doe therein verie blasphemously belie our Sauiour Christ and make it apparantly euident that your idle head it was fraught too full of phantasticall and idle proclamations forsooth when you thus proclaimed in print all these your idle and phantasticall conceits to the world Exorcistes Not so sir for howsoeuer the same be not apparantly exprest in the Word our
selfesame preuailing course with K. Wright and her seauen Diuels for among seauen you might peraduenture haue fallen vpon one of those combersome Spirits which would not be remoued but by prayer and fasting together and yet notwithstanding you onely but prayed at her deliuerance Exorcistes Indeede she was dispossessed by prayer alone vpon the very day of her appointed deliuerance by my only prayer without fasting ioyned therewith or so much as entended either by her selfe or any other in her behalfe or so much as aduised thereto Orthodoxus Surely it should seeme you haue a very rare gift for driuing forth Diuels in that sometimes without either prayer or fasting at all hauing onely but a purpose thereto you can so easilie accomplish the worke For vpon the very day of K. Wrights second deliuerance when you neither prayed nor fasted it seemes you could driue out those seauen at a clap if it be true that others report and your selfe depose For first your selfe hauing well dined before with Master Beresford at Cutthorpe and then after dinner going two or three miles vnto the appointed place you had fully dispatched them all by noone or shortly after Howbeit I am something too blame for intermedling so farre with the secret mysteries of this new-found trade for notwithstanding the premisses and those your precedent Canons concerning the same there may bee couched some hidden conceit vnder those your changeable 〈…〉 Spirit had time long enough for his further continuance yet K. Wrights seauen Diuels they had continued in her their appointed terme to the full and then Master Darell affirmeth they will goe out of their owne accord without any such meanes at all Thus then it is vncertaine you see whether that their speedie departure from out of her bellie was voluntarie of themselues or constrained rather by the ineuitable force of your fasting and prayer neither do we perceiue how we may be soundly resolued herein but by old Midlecubs mouth For if their speedie departure was voluntarilie performed by their owne accord then what need I beseech you of that your new-found ordinance of prayer and fasting especially where such curteous Diuels must bee encountred with Surely none at all Nay rather much needles labour might well haue bin spared and such causelesse sturres needed neuer haue been raised all the countrey ouer about a new nothing On the other side if their speedie departure was not voluntarie as before but that they were by the very force of your prayers compeld to bee packing without longer delay then tell vs I pray you how your rule was obserued concerning the vse of fasting therewith Now surely this new-found trade of Diuillitie it was first founded it seemes vpon a tottering pillar or fickle foundation and that is the reason why you haue made your chaungeable Canons so suteable and correspondent thereto Exorcistes Howsoeuer it pleaseth your selfe very disdainfullie to terme it a new-found trade very certaine I am that our Sauiour Christ he hath in those Scriptures established prayer and fasting as a perpetuall ordinarie meanes for the powerfull expelling of Diuels Orthodoxus Not so Those Scriptures haue only a reference to the Disciples of Christ concerning that action in hand as wee shewed and your selfe confessed before For by them alone the question was moued to them alone the answere was giuen and of them alone must the same be vnderstood Exorcistes To appropriate that speech of Christ and to restraine it precisely to the persons of the Disciples alone as meerely and peculiarly appertaining to them is much more then the text it selfe either in expresse words or by necessarie consequence may possibly beare Orthodoxus Oh then I perceiue you are a Kingstroppe man concerning your word who will say and vnsay with a breath For did not your owne selfe so appropriate this scripture a little before when you gaue the sense of the place protesting withall you would sticke fast to that sense for euer Exorcistes Yea but I haue vpon better deliberation considered since that there is no scripture besides to helpe in this case and therefore that former sense is more then any man may for certaintie auouch Yea it is such a sense I assure you as we our selues may by as good warrant denie as others may dare to affirme Physiologus Master Orthodoxus this man by his variable answeres doth make me remember a merrie old iest of an Hermite Who comming in a cold winters night to a Farmers house and blowing his fingers was demanded of the Farmer what he meant by blowing his fingers I doe it quoth the Hermite to warme them with all This Hermite being foorthwith set downe to his supper with a good messe of warme pottage before him he blew his said pottage The Farmer beholding the man said thus vnto him Thou didst blow thy fingers euen now to warme them withall but I pray thee for what purpose dost thou now blow thy pottage I blow my pottage saith he to coole them thereby Yea quoth the Farmer can there come out of thy mouth both heate and colde at a clap I perceiue then by these pranckes thou art but a dissembling fellow or some counterfeite Frier and therefore be packing I pray thee from out of my house for I like not those fobbing companions which can so cunningly blow both hotte and cold with a breath Exorcistes Howsoeuer this tale befitteth your person the allusion you see resembleth your practise in euery point For you told vs euen now very confidently that Christ did appropriate this text to his Disciples demand and now with one and the selfe same breath you doe beare vs in hand that such a sense is much more then may be auouched for truth it hauing none other scripture besides to mannage the same Surely as the Lord for his owne part protesteth to vomite such lukewarme Laodiceans out of his mouth as are neither hotte nor colde so shall it not be amisse for the wise Farmers of England to beware how they harbour those doublefaced Ianusses which know how to blow both hotte and colde with a breath Besides that this your new found ordinance hauing neither expresse scripture to establish it nor any text else to support the supposed truth thereof it must needs be a pitifull ordinance yea and which more is an ordinance flat opposite both in nature and qualitie to all ordinances else whatsoeuer And therefore it shall not be amisse for your ignorant Reader to haue a more watchfull respect to the maine point it selfe being thus matched with such a coging companion as knowes how to alter his shape with atrice Exorcistes Howsoeuer you catch hold of any thing said by my selfe to the contrary that scripture it cannot be vnderstood of Christs Apostles or of any others endewed with like miraculous giftes neither may it any further be meant of or directed to them then thereby to signifie to them that it was one of the worst kinde of