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A88266 An vnhappy game at Scotch and English. Or A full answer from England to the papers of Scotland. Wherein their Scotch mists and their fogs; their sayings and gaine-sayings; their juglings, their windings and turnings; hither and thither, backwards and forwards, and forwards & backwards again; their breach of Covenant, Articles, & treaty, their King-craft present design, against the two houses of Parliament, & people of England, their plots and intents for usurpation and government over us and our children detected, discovered, and presented to the view of the world, as a dreadfull omen, all-arme, and warning to the kingdome of England. Lilburne, John, 1614?-1657,; Overton, Richard, fl. 1646, 1646 (1646) Wing L2195; Thomason E364_3; ESTC R201238 23,817 28

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AN VNHAPPY GAME AT SCOTCH AND ENGLJSH OR A Full Answer from England to the Papers of Scotland Wherein their Scotch Mists and their Fogs their sayings and gaine-sayings their Juglings their windings and turnings hither and thither backwards and forwards and forwards and forwards backwards again Their breach of Covenant Articles Treaty their King-craft present design against the two houses of Parliament People of England their plots and intents for Usurpation and Government over us and our children detected discovered and presented to the view of the World as a dreadfull Omen All-arme and Warning to the Kingdome of England Ier. 5.4 And although they say the Lord liveth surely they sweare falsly Hosea 10.3 They have spoken Words swearing falsely in making a Covenant thus judgement springeth up as Hemlocke in the furrowes of the field EDINBVRGH Printed as truly as the Scotch papers were at London by Evan Tyler Printer to the Kings most Excellent Majestie and are to besold at the most Solemn Signe of the Blew-Bonnet right opposite to the two Houses of Parliament 1646. An VNHAPPIE GAME AT SCOTCH AND ENGLISH Scotch Papers Pag. 2. THe Parliament of England hath no more power to dispose of the person of the King of Scotland being in England Scotland then the Parliament of Scotland hath to dispose of the person of the King of England if he were in Scotland Ans Brethren you say very well But the question is England whether such a disposing may be either by the one or by the other Whether the Armies of Scotland being in England may dispose of the King of England being in England or no And so on the contrary But indeed it needs not much to be disputed for in words you deny your selves of that power when you tell us pag. ibid. that the Armies of Scotland have nothing to doe in the dispose of the King of England yet for all this in deeds you do assume as much as that comes to to your selves for though you plead your Scotish interest in the King of Sotland to countenance the fact yet behind the shadow of that Curtaine thus drawn before our eyes you keep the King of England from England so consequently King it over England behind which we are confident would by your selves be condemned in us in case you should be so dealt withall by the Armies of England for we cannot judge that the Armies of Scotland would count i● lawfull for the armies of England if they were in Scotland for their assistance to deny them the delivery of the King of Scotland Because being in England they refuse to deliver him to England according to the votes and desires of the two Houses of England Therefore we judge that Scotland would much more claime that priviledge in him being in Scotland for if they will claim it out of their bounds where they have no right of authority they will much more claime it within the bounds of their dominions where their power is intire to themselves Therefore is is not well done of our deare brethren of Scotland thus to cast a Scotch mist before the eyes of their Brethren of England For though as before verbally they disclaime all power in their armies for his disposall without the joynt consent of the two Kingdomes yet as deare Brethren their armies have received entertained and kept him even in his person and that before the joynt consent of the two Kingdomes and absolutely against the will and desires of ours So that the King of England and the King of Scotland is disposed of by the armies of Scotland without the consent or advice of either Kingdome We hope our deare Brethren will not say their armies received advice and direction for his entertainment from the Kingdom of Scotland for that were a capitulation with him without the privity and conjuncture of England which by them pag. 6. is disavowed But in case our brethren might receive him without the mutuall consent of both Kingdomes then why doe they stand for a mutuall consent for his delivery for by the Lord Loudou's own argument pa. 25. contrariorum contraria sunt consequentia contraries have contrary consequents Therefore if they may not part with him without the consent and advice of the two Kingdomes then ought they not to have received him without that consent If our deare brethren should urge that parting with him were a disposing of him and that they may not do without breach of Covenant and Treaty the like we retort by their owne rule of contraries concerning thei● receiving of him for receiving is by the said rule as much a disposing as parting with him so that if our deare brethren be men that are true to their owne rules and principles we may conclude that if they will not part with him without the consent of the Kingdome of Scotland that then they had the consent of the Kingdome of Scotland to receive him before they did receive him but our deare brethren doe affirme the one pag. 8. therefore from the truth and fidelity of our brethren we may well conclude the other Oh! what shall we say or think now of our brethren are they not of divine Covenanters become cheating Juglers For let any man judge whether the keeping the Kings person at New-Castle without our consent be not as absolute a disposall as afterwards the sending of his person to White-Hall Richmond-House Hampton-Court or else where by the joynt advice and consent of the two Kingdomes They would differ in manner indeed but not in the nature of the thing and the nature of the thing is the matter in hand The difference would be but in an Accident na●uely the addition of our consent it is now without it it could then be but with it and both's a disposall Yea though it should be without this consent either of yours of ours For an accident may be wanting and the subject remaine But to colour this disposall from the censure of their act our brethren doe tell us that He came voluntarily Scotland and continues voluntarily Ans It seemes from hence you would inferre that the Act of that disposing of his person is by himselfe England and not by you But for answer thereto consider your own grounds By the Covenant and Treaty you urge that his person is solely and intirely to be disposed of by the parliament of both Kingdomes and not singly or by a third but by the joynt advice and consent of both Therefore from this grant of yours your Armie neither had nor hath any power individually to make or medle with his person or in the least wise to dispos● of it no not for a minute in this place or that place for this or for that or till things should be so or so therefore your Act of entertainment of his comming was by the just sequell of your owne ground an actuall disposing of his person pro tempore even as well and as really as