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A84661	The French Lucian made English; By J.D. Esq; Nouveaux dialogues des morts. Part 1. English.	Fontenelle, M. de (Bernard Le Bovier), 1657-1757.; Dryden, John, 1631-1700, attibuted name.; Davies, John, 1625-1693, attributed name.	1693 (1693)	Wing F1412C; ESTC R202364	37,387	157

THE FRENCH LUCIAN MADE ENGLISH Sold by R Bentley in Couent Garden 1693. THE French Lucian MADE ENGLISH By J. D. Esq LONDON Printed for R. Bentley at the Post-House in Russel-street in Covent-Garden 1693. To Lucian in Elysium Illustrious Deceased I Should injure Justice if that after I have assumed an Idea which is properly Yours I did not thereupon render you some kind of Homage The Author that supports us most in our Writings is the true Hero of the Dedicatory his Praises we ought to publish with sincerity and chuse him for our Protector It may perhaps be ●hought that I have been very ●old in daring to work upon your Ground-plat but it seems to me that I should have been far bolder if I had wrought upon ● Ground of my own Imagination I flatter my self with some hopes that the desig● being Yours it will mak● way for what is mine and thu● much I dare tell you that if b● chance my Dialogues had an● so little success they woul● gain You more Honour the● your own have since it would appear that this Idea is so taking that it matters not whether it b● duly executed or no. I depen● so fully upon it that I thought ● part of it onely would serve m● turn I have taken no notice of Pluto Caron Cerberus nor of no one of the infernal Crew How concerned am I that you have drained all those rare matters of the equality of the Dead of their trouble at Life of the false constancy which Philosophers affect to make appear at their dying hour of the ridiculous misfortune of those young people that dye before the old-men of whom they thought to inherit and whom they so much courted But when all is done since you had invented this design it was but just and reasonable that you should pick and choose what was best in it I have at least endeavoured to imitate you in the end you had proposed to your self All your Dialogues include their Moral and I make all my Dead moralize otherwise it had not been worth while to make them speak some of the living would have served well enough to te●l frivolous things Moreover there is this conveniency in it that a Man may suppose the Dead to be persons of great Reflection as well for their experience-sake as because of their vacant time and one ought to believe that they think a little more then is usual whilst alive They discourse of things here above better than we because they behold them with greater indifferency and more tranquility and they are willing enough to discourse of them because they still pretend to some interest in them You have made the most part of their Dialogues so short that 't is apparent you did not believe them to be great Talkers and in this I can easily agree with you As the Dead are very witty they ought to make a quick discovery of the ending of all matters I could believe too that they might be easily enlightened as to agree with one another about every thing and consequently that they should scarce ever speak for I fancy that it belongs to us Ignorants only to dispute who do not discover the Truth even as it is the property only of the Blind who see not the place they are going to to jostle one another as they go along But here we cannot be perswaded that the Dead should have changed their qualities so far as not to be any longer of contrary Judgments When we have once conceived an opinion of Persons in this World we cannot alter it Thus I have made it my business to make the Dead known again at least such as are most eminent You made no difficulty to suppose some and some of the Adventures too perhaps which you allot them but I stood in no need of that Priviledge History did supply me with plenty enough of real Dead and real Adventures to dispense with my borrowing any assistance from Fiction You will not be surprised that the Dead do speak of what did happen a long time after them you that do see them entertain themselves every day with the affairs of each other I am sure that at this very moment you know France upon a multitude of Reports that have been made you and that you know that she is at this day in point of Learning what Greece was formerly Above all your famous Translator who has made you speak our Language so well will not have failed to tell you that Paris has had the same esteem for your Works as had Rome and Athens Happy the Man that could follow your Style as that great Man did and in his Expressions lay hold of that fine simplicity and that natural pleasantness which are so proper for Dialogues For my part 't is far from my Thoughts to pretend to the glory of having imitated you well I desire none but that of having well known that a Man cannot imitate a more excellent Model than your Self The Titles and Subjects of the Dialogues contained in this Volume The Dialogues of the Ancient Dead I. ALexander Phrinea What Characters noise it most Page 1. II. Milo Smindirides Vpon Niceness p. 9. III. Dido Stratonice Vpon the Intrigue which Virgil does wrongfully attribute to Dido p. 15. IV. Anacreon Aristotle Vpon Philosophy p. 21. V. Homer Aesop Vpon the Mysteries of Homer 's Works p. 29. VI. Athenais Icasia Vpon the Fantasticalness of Fortunes p. 34. Dialogues of the Ancient Dead with the Modern Dead I. AUgustus Peter Aretine Vpon Praises p. 40. II. Sapho Laura Whether it has been well ordered that Men should attack and the Women desend themselves p. 51. III. Socrates Montaigne Whether the Ancients have had more Vertue than We. p. 57. IV. The Emperor Adrian Margarite of Austria What Deaths are the most Generous p. 66. V. Erasistrates Herveus Of what use are the Discoveries the Modern have made in Natural Causes and in Physick p. 78. VI. Berenice Cosmus Medicis the Second Vpon the Immortality of Name p. 85. Dialogues of the Modern Dead I. ANne of Britanny Mary of England A Comparison betwixt Ambition and Love p. 92. II. Charles V. Erasmus If there is any thing wherein Man may glory p. 102. III. Elizabeth of England The Duke of Alenzon Upon the little Solidity of Pleasures p. 110. IV. William Cabestan Albert Frederick of Brandebourg Vpon Folly p. 116. V. Agnes Sorel Roxelana Upon the Power of Women p. 123. VI. Jane I. of Naples Anselm Upon Disquiet for Time to come p. 132. NEW DIALOGUES OF THE DEAD The First Dialogue Alexander Phrinea Phrinea YOU may know it of all the Thebanes that lived in in my time They will tell you that I offered them to rebuild at my own charges the Walls of Thebes which you had beaten down upon condition they would put this Inscription upon them Alexander the Great did beat down these Walls but Phrinea the Courtisan has raised them up again Alex. You were afraid then that

beyond that of Ithaca I kept you in hand several years and in the end I laughed at you Duke Here are in this place some certain Dead that would not yield that you were altogether like Penelope but there are no comparisons that are not defective in some kind or other Q. Eliz. If you were not as great a Buzzard still as ever and that you could mind what you say Duke That is well be serious now I advise you Thus you have ever made your Bravado's of Witness that great Country of America which you made be called Virginia in memory of a very doubtful quality If by good luck that place were not in another World the name it bears would be very improper but it is no matter this is not the business in question Do so much as give me a reason for your mysterious Conduct and for all those projects of Marriage which came to nothing Is it that the six Marriages of Henry VIII your Father did teach you not to marry as the continual Courses of Charles V. taught Philip II. to stay constantly in Madrid Q. Eliz. I might keep to the reason which you supply me with Indeed my Father spent his whole life in marrying himself and unmarrying again in repudiating some of his Wives and causing others to be beheaded But the true secret of my Conduct is that I found nothing more pretty than to frame Designs make Preparatives and execute nothing Enjoyment of what a man does ardently desire abates of the esteem of it and things do not pass from our imagination to reality without some loss You come into England to marry me then nothing but Balls Feasting Rejoycings nay I go so far as to give you a Ring Hitherto every thing smiles as much as possible all consists but in Preparatives and in Ideas Besides that which does perfect the delight of Marriage is already exhausted Here I stick and dismiss you Duke To be free with you your Maxims would not have suited with me I should have desired something more than Chymeras Q. Eliz. Ah! if men were debarred of Chymeras what pleasures would they have left them I see well enough that you have had no sense of all the pleasures which attended your life but you are very unhappy indeed that you did lose them Duke How What delights were there in my life I never sped in any thing I was like to be King four several times first of all Poland was the place in agitation then England and the Low-Countries at last France in all appearance was likely to fall to me yet for all this I am come hither without Reigning Q. Eliz. And this is the happiness you were not aware of Always imaginations hopes and never any reality You did nothing but prepare your self for Royalty all your life-life-time as I did all along prepare my self for Marriage Duke But as I believe that a real Marriage might have fitted you I tell you truly that a real Royalty would have pleased me well enough Q. Eliz. Pleasures are not solid enough to bear a search into their depth they must be but just smelled unto They are like those boggy Grounds which a man is obliged to run lightly over without ever settling his foot upon them The Fourth Dialogue William of Cabestan Albertus Frederick of Brandebourg A. F. of Bradebourg I Love you the better for having been a fool as well as my self Tell me a little what your folly was Cabestan I was a Poet of Provence much set by in my Age which caused my ruin I fell in love with a Lady whom I had rendred famous by my Writings But she took such a liking to my Verses that she began to fear lest I should some time or other apply them to some other person and the better to secure her self of the constancy of my Muse she gave me a cursed Drink that turned my Wits and made me incapable of writing any more Brand. How long have you been dead Cab. Near upon four hundred years Brand. Sure Poets were ever scarce in your Age since people had so much esteem for them as to poyson them in this manner I am sorry you were not born in my time you might have made Verses for all kind of handsome Women without any fear of Poyson Cab. I know it I see none of all those great Wits that come hither make their complaints of having had my destiny But you in what manner became you a fool Brand. After a very reasonable manner A King turned fool after having had something appear to him in a Forest But what I saw was far more terrible Cab. And what did you see Brand. In what manner my Wedding was to be kept I did marry Mary Eleonora of Cleve and all along this great day of rejoycing I made such judicious reflections upon Marriage that they put me out of my Wits Cab. Had you any good intervals in your sickness Brand. Yes Cab. So much the worse and I for my part I was yet more unfortunate I recovered my Wits again Brand. I should never have believed that that was a misfor●une Cab. When a man turns Fool he must be an absolute one and continue such an one These Alternatives of Reason and Folly and these Returns again of perfect Reason is the property of your petty Fools only that are so but by accident and which are but inconsiderable in number But behold those which Nature does daily produce in her natural course and wherewith the World ●s filled they are always Fools ●n an equal manner and are never cured Brand. For my part I should have imagined that it were best ●o be as little Fool as one could Cab. Ah! do you not know the ●se of folly Folly hinders a man ●rom knowing himself for the ●●ght of his own self is a sad one ●nd as 't is never time to know ●nes self so folly must not forsake ● man one single moment Brand. You may say what you will you shall not persuade me that there be any other fools than those that are so as both of us have been The rest of men have all Reason else the loss of a man's Wits would be no loss and one could not distinguish the Frantick from such as were in their right Senses Cab. The Frantick are only fools of another kind The follies of all men being of one same nature have agreed together with so much ease that they have been instrumental to the making up of the strongest ties of Humane Society witness that desire of Immortality that false Glory and several other Principles which give a motion to all that is done in the World And none are called fools now but some certain fools that are as one may say out of employment and whose folly could not suit with that of the rest nor enter into the common dealings of life Brand. Those that are frantick are such great fools that for the most part they call one another fool but your

is pretty reasonable that our Names should die too they are of no better quality then we DIALOGUES OF SOME Modern Dead The First Dialogue Anne of Britany Mary of England Anne of Britany FOR certain my death did you a great kindness you immediately upon it crossed the Sea to go and marry Lewis XII and seize upon the Throne which I left empty for you But you enjoyed it but a while and I was revenged of you by means of your youth and beauty which rendred you too too lovely in the King's eye and with overmuch facility did comfort him in his loss of me for they hastned his death and hindred you from being Queen long Mary of England Truly Royalty did but just shew it self to me and presently disappeared Anne of Brit. And after this you became Dutchess of Suffolk A fair fall For my part Heaven be thanked I have had another destiny When Charles VIII died I did not lose my place by his death and I married his Successor which is an example of a very singular happiness Mary of Engl. Would you believe me if I did tell you that I never bore you any grudge for that happiness Anne of Brit. No. I apprehend too well what it is to be Dutchess of Suffolk having first been Queen of France Mary of Engl. But I loved the Duke of Suffolk Anne of Brit. That 's nothing After one has once tasted the sweetness of Royalty is it possible to relish any other Mary of Engl. It is provided they be of love I do assure you that you ought not to wish me il● for having succeeded you If al● along I could have disposed o● my self I should have been but ● Dutchess and I made a speed● return into England to take upo● me that Title so soon as ever I wa● discharged of that of Queen Anne of Brit. Were you so lo● minded Mary of Engl. Ambition I mus● confess was of no concern to me Nature has made some plain pleasures for men such as are easie and quiet and their imagination makes them some that are intricate uncertain and hard to come by but Nature is more dexterous in creating them pleasures than they are themselves Why do not they commit that charge to her She invented Love which is very pleasing and they have invented Ambition which was needless Anne of Brit. Who tells you that men did invent Ambition Nature is no less busie in inspiring desires of elevation and commanding than she is in working an inclination in men to love Mary of Engl. Ambition may be easily known to be a work of the imagination she is the very form of it she is restless full of chymerical projects she has no sooner attained her desires but she out-goes them again She aims still at a mark she never hits Anne of Brit. And unluckily Love has a mark which he hits but too soon Mary of Engl. That which ensues hereupon is that one may oftentimes be happy through Love and one can be so but once through Ambition or if it be possible to be s● at least those kind of pleasures are made for no great number of persons and consequently Nature does not propose them to Men for her favours are always very general Consider Love 't is made for every one None but such as do seek out their happiness in a state too elevated do think that Nature has grudged them the sweet delights of Love A King who can make himself sure of an hundred thousand Arms cannot perhaps make himself sure of one heart He knows not whether that which a man does for another person be not done out of a point of Honour His Royalty deprives him of the sincerest and the sweetest pleasures Anne of Brit. You do not render Kings much the more unhappy by this inconvenience you find out in their condition When a man sees his Will not only fulfilled but prevented an infinite number of Fortunes depending upon a word which he may utter when he pleases so many cares such a multitude of designs so much eagerness such an application to please whereof he is the only object truly it is a comfort to a man not to know exactly whether he be loved for his degrees sake or for his person's sake The pleasures of Ambition say you are designed for too few what you charge them with as a fault is their greatest charm In point of good luck Exception flatters and such as reign are excepted with so much advantage from the condition of other men that though they should lose something of the pleasures which are common to all the world they would still have more than they would desire Mary of Engl. Ah! judge of their loss by the sensibility wherewith they receive those sincere and common pleasures when any present themselves Hear what a Princess of my own Blood told me here the other day who has reigned in England both very long and very happily and without an Husband too She gave her first Audience to some Dutch Ambassadors who had in their Retinue an handsome young man So soon as he saw the Queen he turned himself towards some that were near him and spoke something to them softly but with a Countenance that made her guess pretty well what he said for Women are endued with an admirable instinct Those three or four words of this young Dutch-man whieh she had not heard remained more in her mind than the whole speech of the Am●assadors and as soon as they were gone she would needs satisfie her self in what she had imagi●ed She asked those to whom this ●oung man had spoken what he had said to them They made her ●nswer with great respect that it was what they did not dare to tell ●gain to so great a Queen and ●orbore telling it a long time In ●ine when she made use of her ●bsolute Authority she was told ●hat the Dutch-man had said in a low voice Ah! this is an handsome Woman and had added some grosser expression but brisk to shew that he liked her They made the relation hereof with great apprehension however nothing happened upon it saving only that when she dismissed the Ambassadors she made a considerable Present to the young Dutch-man See how among all these pleasures of Greatness and Royalty this of being thought handsom● did touch her to the quick Anne of Brit. But in fine she would not have purchased it with the loss of the other Any thing that is too downright is not fo● Man's turn It is not sufficient th● pleasures do take with sweetness they must agitate and transport ● man How comes it to pass tha● the Pastoral life such as the Poet● describe it had never any Being but in their works and would not be liked of if put in practice It is too sweet and too too plain Mary of Engl. I confess men have spoiled all But how happens it that the sight of the most Majestical and most pompous Court in the World

other men call themselves wise persons Cab. Ah! What is it you say All men point at one another with their finger and Nature has very judiciously setled that Order The Solitary Man laughs at the Courtier but to be even with him he goes not to trouble him at Court The Courtier laughs at the Solitary Man but he lets him alone in quiet in his retirement If there were ever a side to be taken that were known to be the only reasonable side every one would embrace that side and there would be too much crowding it is better to be divided into several little Troops that embroil not one another because some laugh at what the other do Brand. As dead as you are I find you are a great fool with a●● your Arguments you are not well recovered yet of the Drenc● was given you Cab. And this is the Idea whic● a fool must always conceive of another True Wisdom would too much singularize those enjo●ed her but the Opinion of Wi●dom renders all men equal a●● does no less satisfie them The Fifth Dialogue Agnes Sorel Roxelana Agnes Sorel TO tell you the truth I do not understand your Turkish Gallantry The Beauties of the Seraglio have a Lover that need only say My Will is so they never taste of the pleasure of Resistance and they never afford him the pleasure of Victory that is to say that the Sultans and their Sultanesses do never enjoy the delights of Love Roxelana What will you have the Turkish Emperors who are strangely jealous of their Authority have upon Reasons of Policy neglected those so refined delights of Love They were afraid that such Beauties as did not absolutely depend upon them would assume too great a power over their mind and meddle too much with Affairs Agnes Sorel Why well How know they whether it would be a misfortune Love is often good for many things and I that speak to you if I had not been Mistress to a King of France and if I had not had a great power over him I know not whereabouts France would have been by this time Have you heard in what a desperate condition our Affairs were in under Charles the Seventh and into what a plight the whole Kingdom was reduced the English being almost Masters of it all Roxelana I have as this History has made a great noise I know that a certain Maid did preserve France You are then the Maid And how were you the same time Mistress to the King Agnes Sorel You mistake your self I have no concern with the Maid you have been told of The King of whom I was beloved had a mind to leave his Kingdom to Strangers that were Usurpers and go and hide himself in a Country full of Mountains whither I should not have been very well contented to follow him I bethought my self of a Stratagem to divert him from this design I sent for an Astronomer whom I dealt withal under-hand and after he had made a shew of studying my Nativity he told me one day in presence of Charles the Seventh that all the Planets were Cheats or I should inspire a passion of long continuance into a great King I presently said to Charles You will not take it ill then Sir that I go over to the Court of England for you will be no longer King and you have not loved me long enough to fulfil my destiny His fear of losing me made him resolve to be King of the French and he began at that very time to re-establish himself Behold how much France is obliged to Love and how gallant that Kingdom ough● to be though it were but by way of acknowledgment Roxelana 'T is true But ● must to my Maid again Wha● did she do then Could History be so much mistaken as to attribute to a young Country Mai● that which did belong to a Cour● Lady the King's Mistress Agnes Sorel If History should ●e so far mistaken it would be ●o great wonder Yet 't is most certain that the Maid did highly encourage the Soldiers but I had ●efore-hand animated the King She was a great help to this Prince whom she found ready to engage with the English but had it not been for me she would not have found him in that posture In short you will no farther question the share I have in that great Affair when you shall know the testimony which was given in my behalf in this by one of Charles the Seventh's Successors in this Quatrine Gentle Agnes more Honour is thy due The Cause being France for to rescue Then what in a Cloister can be done By devout Hermit or enclosed Nun. What say you to it Roxelana You will own that if I had been a Sultanness like you and had not had a Right to threaten Charles the Seventh as I did he had been undone Roxelana I wonder at the vanity you take in this petty Action You had no difficulty to gain very much upon the mind of a Lover you that were free and your own Mistress but I as much a Slave as I was I did for all that make the Sultan submit unto me You made Charles the Seventh King almost against his Will and I made Soliman my Husband in spight of himself Agnes Sorel But how They say the Sultans never marry Roxelana I grant it However I was resolved to marry Soliman though I could not bring him to it out of hopes of an happiness which he had not as yet obtained I will tell you a stratagem that goes beyond yours I began to build Temples and to do several other works of Piety after which I made shew of a deep Melancholy The Sultan asked me the reason of it a thousand and a thousand times and when I had made as much a do as was necessary I told him that the cause of my trouble was because all my good Actions as our Doctors had told me did me no good and that as I was a Slave I did but labour sor Soliman my Lord. Hereupon Soliman made me free to the end that the Merit of my good Actions might redound to my own self But when he had a mind to live with me as formerly and treat me like a Beauty of the Seraglio I made as if I were much surprised and represented unto him in a very serious manner that he had no Right over the Person of a free Woman Soliman had a tender Conscience he went to a Doctor of the Law with whom I did deal under-hand to consult about this Case His Answer was that Soliman should beware of pretending any thing over me who was no more his Slave and that unless he did marry me I could be no longer his Now he is more in Love than ever He had but one Choice to make but a very extraordinary one and dangerous to boot for a Sultan However he made it and married me Agnes Sorel I must confess 't is a brave thing to make those submit who do so fore-arm