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A78908 His Maiesties message to the House of Commons concerning an order made by them, for the borrowing of one hundred thousand pounds of the adventurers money for Ireland. Together with the ansvver of the Commons assembled in Parliament thereunto. Ordered by the Commons in Parliament, that this message and answer, be forthwith printed and published. Hen Elynge [sic], cler. Parl. Dom. Com. England and Wales. Sovereign (1625-1649 : Charles I); England and Wales. Parliament. House of Commons. 1642 (1642) Wing C2478A; ESTC R213853 5,284 16

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HIS MAIESTIES MESSAGE To the HOVSE of COMMONS Concerning an ORDER made by Them for the borrowing of one Hundred Thousand Pounds of the Adventurers money for IRELAND Together with the ANSVVER OF THE COMMONS Assembled in Parliament thereunto Ordered by the Commons in Parliament that this Message and Answer be forthwith Printed and published Hen. El●ynge Cler. Parl. Dom. Com. London Printed for Edw. Husbands and Iohn Franck and are to be sold at their Shop in the Middle-Temple and the next doore to the Kings-Head Taverne in Fleete-streete M.DC.XLII His Majesties MESSAGE TO THE HOVSE OF COMMONS HIs Majesty taking notice of an Order lately made by the House of Commons whereby that House hath unduly assumed to themselves Authority to Order direct and dispose of one hundred thousand pounds part of those monies which the Adventurers for the reducing of the Rebels of Ireland have paid to that end onely to that purpose to other uses and intents contrary to the expresse words of the Act of Parliament concerning the same wherein it is enacted That no part of the Money which should be paid in according to that Act shall be imployed to any other purpose then the reducing of those Rebels untill they shall be declared to be subdued Out of His Piety and Princely care for the conferring and re-establishment of Gods true Religion in that His Kingdome of Ireland for the reliefe of His distressed Subjects there for the suppressing of that horrid and bloody Rebellion for the supply and payment of His Armies there now in great want and necessity doth strictly require the House of Commons as they will answer the contrary to Almighty God His Majestie and those that have trusted them That they immediately retract that mischievous illegall and unjust Order wherin His Majesty expecteth their speedy Answer and Obedience and the rather that He may thereby be secured that such part of the foure hundred thousand pounds as is or shall be collected from His good Subjects of England by vertue of the late Act of Parliament whereby the same is granted may not likewise under false pretences be diverted from it's proper use for which it was intended and misimployed to the disturbance of the Peace of this Kingdome in a warre against His sacred Majesty THE ANSVVER Of the House of COMMONS To His MAIESTIES MESSAGE of the 13. of Aug. 1642. THe House of Commons having received a Message from His Majestie of the 13. of August last whereby they are required to retract an Order made by them for the borrowing of one hundred thousand pounds of the Adventurers money for Ireland supposing that Order very prejudiciall to the affaires of Ireland and contrary to an Act of Parliament made this present Sessions doe in the first place declare that the directions given by His Majesty for the retracting of this Order is an high breach of Priviledge of PARLIAMENT And that they cannot without a deepe sence of sorrow call to minde how Popish and Prelaticall Councells did so farre prevaile with his Majesty that two Armies were brought within the bowells of this Kingdome and two Protestant Nations ready to w●lter in each others blood that when both those Armies had bin a long time defrayed at the charge of the poore Commons of England and at length by Gods blessing upon the endeavours of the PARLIAMENT quietly disbanded the same wicked Councells prevented of that designe did soone after raise this bloody and barbarous Rebellion in Ireland the suppressing whereof for the better colour was recommended to the care of the Parliament who out of a fellow-feeling of the unspeakeable miseries of their Protestant Bretheren there not suspecting this horrid plot now too apparent did cheerefully undertake that great Worke and doe really intend and endeavour to settle the Protestant Religion and a permanent peace in that Realme to the glory of God and the great honour and profit of his Majestie and security of his three Kingdomes But how they have beene discouraged retarded and diverted in and from this pious and glorious worke by those Traiterous Councells about his Majesty will appeare by many particulars some whereof they shall upon this just occasion call to remembrance That when the Lords and Commons had upon the first breaking out of the Rebellion immediately provided and sent over Twenty thousand pounds and engaged themselves and the whole Kingdome for the reducing of the Rebells Yet his Majesty after his returne from Scotland to London was not pleased either by Word or Message to take notice of that untill after some in the House of Commons had truly observed how forward those mischievous Councellors were to incite his Majesty against his Protestant Subjects of Scotland and how slow to recent the proceedings of his Papist Traytors in Ireland That although the Rebells had most impudently stiled themselves the Queenes Army and profest that the cause of their rising was to maintaine the Kings Prerogative and the Queenes Religion against the Puritan Parliament of England And that thereupon both Houses of Parliament did humbly and earnestly advise his Majesty to wipe away this dangerous Scandall by Proclayming them Rebells and Traytors to his Majesty and the Crowne of England which then would have mated and weakned the Conspirators in the beginning and have encouraged both the Parliament here and good people there the more vigorously to have opposed their proceedings Yet such was the power of those Councellors that no Proclamation was set forth to that purpose till almost three Moneths after the breaking out of this Rebellion and then Command given that but forty should be Printed nor they to be published till further directions should be given by his Majesty That after both Houses of Parliament had found out a probable way to reduce the Kingdome of Ireland by the Adventure of private men without any charge to the Subject in generall and which they are very confident would have brought in a Million of Money had his Majesty continued in or neare London those malicious Whisperers that durst not hinder the passing of the Bill which was so specious in it selfe and so generally approved yea have by practice by drawing his Majesty from his Parliament by keeping him at this distance and advising him to make warre upon his people so intimidated and discouraged the Adventurers and others that would have adventured that they have rendered that good Bill in a manner ineffectuall That the Parliament and Adventurers had long since designed 5000. Foote and 500. Horse for the reliefe of Munster to be sent as a Brigade under the Command of the Lord Wharton had made Choice of and Listed all the Commanders and prepared Money Armes and other provision for that Expedition and all to be at the charge of the Adventurers and when nothing was wanting but a Commission to the Lord Wharton to enable him for that service such was the power of those Councellors that no Commission could be obteyned from his Majesty by reason whereof