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A13948 Three severall treatises concerning the truce at this present propounded The first, laying open divers considerations and reasons, why a truce ought not to bee contracted: propounded vnto the high and mightie lords of the States Generall of the Vnited Provinces: by the right honble the commissioners and deputies of the most hon: authorized Company of West India. In their owne behalfe. The second, discusseth this question very pithily and at large, whether or no it bee lawfull to make truce with the King of Spaine, with divers fitting considerations. Lastly, here is added a remonstrance, represented to the States theyr Excellencies, in the behalfe of the King of Bohemia, which hath a respect vnto the affaires in Germanie. All truly and faithfully translated out of the Low Dutch copie.; Consideratien ende redenen der E. Heeren Bewind-hebberen, vande geoctrojeerde West-Indische Compagnie. English West-Indische Compagnie (Netherlands); United Provinces of the Netherlands. Staten Generaal. 1630 (1630) STC 24258; ESTC S120731 14,036 32

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testifie then common voyces for the most part euen of those that are afarre off or of your Excellencies subiects who doe vnanimously acknowledge that they haue euer been of that opinion that nothing can be enterprized more preiudicial to our common Enemy then to assault him in those parts whence he doth obtaine with what hee doth curbe all Christendome and whereby he hath now many yeares aspired to the vniuersall Monarchy And that therefore according to the beginnings they doe perceiue themselues not deceiued in their opinion and judgement Wee doe appeale to our Enemy himselfe who cannot Conceale that there is nothing presseth them so sore nor vrgeth more to desire a Truce then the weapons of our Company and that if this Thorne were but out of their foot they will then giue vs what-soeuer advantage Insomuch then the Intrest of a common harme is greater then that of particular copartners who as they say concerning the most part haue aduentured their monies more for loue then greedinesse of gaine they could easily endure that losse which should befall them by the dissolution of the Company if thereby the common good and publicke weale were furthered Because by this meanes the party will recouer his strength take breath get new blood and vigonr and to the contrary these Countries will decay and faint and straine one of their best points and if we might be so bold to say lame an arme Also it might come to passe that this businesse might be vndertaken by some other and wee stand and be spectators onely and so neuer come to bee our selues againe in this matter The most we might expect should bee a Competencie and Dependancie on others In Conclusion then Wee doe most submissiuely request and intreat that your Excel according to your wonted wisedome would bee pleased to prevent these forenamed Inconueniencies and losses and not suffer our Companie as we haue deducted before to be ruinated by a Truce and the Spaniard to take breath and gather strength But rather that it would please our Excellen to maintayne our Company in their former right incourage and strengthen them in their good purpose and resolution and to suffer them to inioy reape the fruits of so many dangers hazards paines and troubles as their Capitals and Services haue vndergone and sustained and the good respect which they haue descrued from this State Not shuffing and putting frō v● that great blessing which the Lord hath begun to bestow vpon their Countries by the meanes of this Company And so wee trust that the same blessing will continue amongst vs to the propagation of his name and honour and inlighting of our owne Countrey Vnto the which according to out meane indeauours we are and will be still willing to Contribute And will alwayes bee ready to declare further reasons of this our backwardnesse to your Excellencies and will euer remaine c. Your Excellencies most humble Servants The Deputies of the authorized West India Companie At their Meeting the 19. Was thus Subscribed REYNIER REAEL IOHAN DE ZAET A PIETERSONS SYMON VERDOES DIDRICH SCHERF ALBERT WYFFERINCK ANTHONY GODU● MARCVS VAN VALIKENBVRCH GERRIT VAN NYBVRG● IOHAN DE MOOR ABRAHAM OYENS Diuers Conscionable Considerations vpon this Question Whether in Conscience men may contract a Truce with the King of Spaine BEfore any thing bee vndertaken it is necessary that in the first place this question be made Whether or no it be agreeable to Gods most holy will may be performed with a safe conscience The Prince of Orenge of blessed and happy memory When as there was to bee treated at Bourborgh in Flanders concerning a Peace with the King of Spaine aswell in the behalfe of the the Queene of England as on the behalfe of these Countries did then chiefly pause vpon this point and to this end called together an Assembly or Synode of Clergie men to consult of that matter It were very requisire that our high and mighty Superiours followed the same steps and in this Treaty of Truce did consult with the Ministers of God and so take Counsell from his owne Word But notwithstanding this is vnlikely at this time yet will not these few considerations proue vnnecessary and vnprofitable euen to the satisfying and informing the consciences of those who shal hereafter read and peruse them My desire therefore is that they may bee considered and thought vpon with vnfaigned loue towards God in his feare and for his Truths sake The Question here is not Whether or no wee may with a safe Conscience make war against the King of Spaine and while he continues war proceed and continue ours against him Wee hold this affirmatiue and lay it as a ground of truth For we know that true Maxime receiued of all true Christians and the higher Powers of these Countries and indeed is grounded vpon the sacred Scriptures That the Magistrates doe not beare the Sword in vaine but for the suppressing and punishing of the bad and for the defence of the good for the good of their Subjects and consequently not only against priuate offenders who haue damaged and wronged this and that particular person but also against generall and Publicke offenders who labour to disturbe and ouerthrow the state of the Land and the Publicke-weale But the Question is this Whether or no we may cease making warre or to be plainer Whether wee may for a time or for certaine yeeres shut vp and stop our proceedings in warre This Question being thus propounded in generall in the Thesis or Position it vnfolds it selfe For who dares doubt but wee may cease warring with mutual agreement when the contrary party either requireth or is willing to doe the same Therefore the Question propounded in the Thesis is without difficulty except it be among such as either are blood-thirsty or reuengefull or intend either to enrich or aduance themselues by the booty and prey such I meane as would not deale in this matter according to conscience but their owne beastly and fleshly lusts Here lyes the point in the Hypothesis or conditionall Proposition that is when this Question is applyed to our common Enemy and his state and condition whether then it may consist with safety of Conscience to contract a Truce with the King of Sptine And here two things offer themselues to bee considered First the Condition of the King of Spaine Secondly our state and present condition and occasions For the first it is certaine and beyond doubt that the King of Spaine our enemy doth not now enter into Treatie with vs concerning a Truce either out of loue to peace or loue to our persons This is manifest and euident in the proceedings of all his warres from time to time also in his warres continued against vs. It doth appeare that he aymes onely to erect his supposed and imagined vniuersall Monarchie and absolute Dominion Remember the warres whereby he did help the Emperour for the suppressing and subduing of those that were vnited